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Oh they surely hit the glutes, I agree 100% with that, as does my butt
right at the moment. ;)
But does that translate to better running?
"During horizontal running, the muscles or groups most activated were the
adductors (90 =B1 5%), semitendinosus (86 =B1 13%), gracilis (76 =B1 20%), =
biceps
femoris (76 =B1 12%), and semimembranosus (75 =B1 12%). During uphill runni=
ng,
the muscles most activated were the adductors (83 =B1 8%), biceps femoris (=
79
=B1 7%), gluteal group (79 =B1 11%), gastrocnemius (76 =B1 15%), and vastus=
group
(75 =B1 13%). Compared with horizontal running, uphill running required
considerably greater activation of the vastus group (23%) and soleus (14%)
and less activation of the rectus femoris (29%), gracilis (18%), and
semitendinosus (17%). We conclude that during high-intensity horizontal and
uphill running to exhaustion, lasting 2=963 min, muscles of the lower
extremity are not maximally activated, suggesting there is a limit to the
extent to which additional muscle mass recruitment can be utilized to meet
the demand for force and energy. Greater total muscle activation during
exhaustive uphill than during horizontal running is achieved through an
altered pattern of muscle activation that involves increased use of some
muscles and less use of others."
http://jap.physiology.org/content/83/6/2073.short
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Ryan <Stee...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I agree with certain exercises being useless outside the gym. Disagree
> with lunges being one of them, at least for me. I feel they help
> improve my range of motion (hip extension) and help open up my stride
> length (more speed). They also seem to be good for glute strength.
>
> On Feb 8, 9:30 am, Tuck <tuck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So we have a phrase in my gym we use to torment the trainer (when he's
> not
> > tormenting us): gym fit.
> >
> > This refers to exercises that have no purpose outside of the gym. They
> > don't increase your fitness for anything other than doing that exercise
> in
> > the gym.
> >
> > Now, obviously, that's often debatable, and one person's useless exerci=
se
> > may be key to another person's sport.
> >
> > But I do think that there are some exercises that fall entirely in the
> > category of "gym fit".
> >
> > Lunges is the one I'm thinking of. I do these occasionally, and
> everytime
> > they have the same effect: they make me sore. There seems to be
> absolutely
> > no cross-training effect with any of the sports that I do regularly, as
> > none of those sports seem to maintain the muscle tone that is required =
to
> > effectively do lunges. The only time I'm fit for doing lunges is when
> I've
> > been doing lunges. Running, skiing, mountain biking; none of them seem
> to
> > make me fit for doing lunges.
> >
> > Are lunges a complete waste of my time, then?
> >
> > --
> > _________________________________
> > Tucker
>
> --
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<div>Oh they surely hit the glutes, I agree 100% with that, as does my butt=
right at the moment. ;)</div><div>=A0</div><div>But does that translate to=
better running?</div><div>=A0</div><div>"During horizontal =
running, the muscles or groups most activated were the adductors =
(90 =B1 5%), semitendinosus (86 =B1 13%), gracilis (76 =B1 20%), =
biceps femoris (76 =B1 12%), and semimembranosus (75 =B1 12%). Du=
ring uphill running, the muscles most activated were the adductors =
(83 =B1 8%), biceps femoris (79 =B1 7%), gluteal group (79 =B1 =
11%), gastrocnemius (76 =B1 15%), and vastus group (75 =B1 13%). Compared =
with horizontal running, uphill running required conside=
rably greater activation of the vastus group (23%) and soleus (14%) =
and less activation of the rectus femoris (29%), gracilis (18%=
), and semitendinosus (17%). We conclude that during high-intensity =
horizontal and uphill running to exhaustion, lasting 2=963 min=
, muscles of the lower extremity are not maximally activated, =
suggesting there is a limit to the extent to which additional muscle=
mass recruitment can be utilized to meet the demand for =
force and energy. Greater total muscle activation during exhaustive uphil=
l than during horizontal running is achieved through an=
altered pattern of muscle activation that involves increased use of some m=
uscles and less use of others."</div>
<div>=A0</div><div><a href=3D"http://jap.physiology.org/content/83/6/2073.s=
hort">http://jap.physiology.org/content/83/6/2073.short</a><br><br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Ryan <span dir=3D=
"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:Stee...@yahoo.com">Stee...@yahoo.com</a>></s=
pan> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-=
color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class=
=3D"gmail_quote">I agree with certain exercises being useless outside the g=
ym. Disagree<br>
with lunges being one of them, at least for me. I feel they help<br>
improve my range of motion (hip extension) and help open up my stride<br>
length (more speed). They also seem to be good for glute strength.<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Feb 8, 9:30=A0am, Tuck <<a href=3D"mailto:tuck...@gmail.com">tuck...@=
gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> So we have a phrase in my gym we use to torment the trainer (when he&#=
39;s not<br>
> tormenting us): gym fit.<br>
><br>
> This refers to exercises that have no purpose outside of the gym. =A0T=
hey<br>
> don't increase your fitness for anything other than doing that exe=
rcise in<br>
> the gym.<br>
><br>
> Now, obviously, that's often debatable, and one person's usele=
ss exercise<br>
> may be key to another person's sport.<br>
><br>
> But I do think that there are some exercises that fall entirely in the=
<br>
> category of "gym fit".<br>
><br>
> Lunges is the one I'm thinking of. =A0I do these occasionally, and=
everytime<br>
> they have the same effect: they make me sore. =A0There seems to be abs=
olutely<br>
> no cross-training effect with any of the sports that I do regularly, a=
s<br>
> none of those sports seem to maintain the muscle tone that is required=
to<br>
> effectively do lunges. =A0The only time I'm fit for doing lunges i=
s when I've<br>
> been doing lunges. =A0Running, skiing, mountain biking; none of them s=
eem to<br>
> make me fit for doing lunges.<br>
><br>
> Are lunges a complete waste of my time, then?<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> _________________________________<br>
> Tucker<br>
<br>
</div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">--<br>
"Minimalist Runner - Barefoot, Sandals, Shoes..." =A0hosted by Ba=
refoot Ted<br>
<br>
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___________________________<br>Tucker</div>
<div>=A0</div><br>
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