Sandals, Shoes" <huaraches@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:46:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Wilt Alston <rock.maratho...@gmail.com> To: huaraches@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <b1a8eae5-e1da-4655-8b89-339de7385442@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <25797226-9B70-418B-AAC9-7AFA6663BC2E@jkemp.net> References: <EEE9CBFA-D921-45EF-9846-6FBB763D4E43@jkemp.net> <CAMKa24j9tO87-NiNxwwhCPhry6x04Q1ugm+RofK=SWExmg+Jfg@mail.gmail.com> <BD181B1E-50E9-420A-91AF-8E433071E376@jkemp.net> <069bd3c3-88d3-4561-b7c9-7cd379c11153@googlegroups.com> <CAMKa24gHKb021F7tHqs4kcxpnkOL9QqQVNRD-Jg--DX+C1ndQQ@mail.gmail.com> <25797226-9B70-418B-AAC9-7AFA6663BC2E@jkemp.net> Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:123961] Marathon hydration advice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1360_18698938.1349981179491" ------=_Part_1360_18698938.1349981179491 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1361_3126582.1349981179494" ------=_Part_1361_3126582.1349981179494 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I actually wrote quite a bit--maybe too much--about it on DailyMile. Here are my splits, which seemed really even, shockingly: http://www.dailymile.com/people/Wiltster/entries/15414811 ...here's the link to my write-up, just in case you're *really* desperate to know more: http://www.dailymile.com/people/Wiltster/entries/15387345 On Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:15:56 PM UTC-4, JohnK wrote: > > On Oct 11, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Tuck wrote: > > > That's encouraging! > > It certainly is! Thanks Wilt :) > > JohnK > > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Wilt Alston <rock.ma...@gmail.com<javascript:>> > wrote: > > I ran a 3:49 in Buffalo, running damned close to MAF pace most of the > time. (For reference, I'm 53, and have one BQ and a 3:19 under my belt, > but almost quit running marathons after a really crappy performance in > 2010, which I now attribute to too little aerobic training.) > > > > ...as for how it felt, pleasant does not begin to describe it; it was > actually "fun" which is a word I previously thought could not be applied to > marathons. > > > > > > On Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:29:59 PM UTC-4, JohnK wrote: > > "Trying for a BQ?" > > > > I don't think so. Trying to see if MAF-only, minimally-shod-only > training since last November, and moderating my carbs, doing fasted runs > and so on makes a ~3:50 marathon both do-able but also relatively pleasant. > > > > I would have qualified for Boston in the first two marathons I ran, but > those were almost 20 years ago now... And they hurt -- in several ways, but > mostly, it seems, because of my marshmallow shoes and broken gait as a > result of those shoes. > > > > I don't rule out going faster than 3:50, but I also don't rule out going > slower :) > > > > I'm looking at it as a training run. Either for trying to go faster in > another marathon, or longer (ultra). > > > > JohnK > > > > On Oct 11, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Tuck wrote: > > > > > Trying for a BQ? > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:15 AM, John Kemp <jo...@jkemp.net> wrote: > > > I'm running the Hartford marathon this weekend. On their website, they > give this advice about hydration: > http://www.hartfordmarathon.com/Assets/Training+Program/ProperHydrationForDistanceRunning.pdf > > > > > > Pretty balanced - much better than I was expecting, and mostly: "drink > to thirst" - I note that Noakes is referenced in the document too... > > > > > > JohnK > > > > > > -- > > > "Minimalist Runner - Barefoot, Sandals, Shoes..." hosted by Barefoot > Ted > > > > > > Membership Options: http://groups.google.com/group/huaraches/subscribe > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > _________________________________ > > > Tucker > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "Minimalist Runner - Barefoot, Sandals, Shoes..." hosted by Barefoot > Ted > > > > > > Membership Options: http://groups.google.com/group/huaraches/subscribe > > > > > > -- > > "Minimalist Runner - Barefoot, Sandals, Shoes..." hosted by Barefoot Ted > > > > Membership Options: http://groups.google.com/group/huaraches/subscribe > > > > > > > > -- > > _________________________________ > > Tucker > > > > > > > > -- > > "Minimalist Runner - Barefoot, Sandals, Shoes..." hosted by Barefoot Ted > > > > Membership Options: http://groups.google.com/group/huaraches/subscribe > > ------=_Part_1361_3126582.1349981179494 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I actually wrote quite a bit--maybe too much--about it on DailyMile. <div><br></div><div>Here are my splits, which seemed really even, shockingly: <a href="http://www.dailymile.com/people/Wiltster/entries/15414811">http://www.dailymile.com/people/Wiltster/entries/15414811</a><div><br></div><div>...here's the link to my write-up, just in case you're *really* desperate to know more: <a href="http://www.dailymile.com/people/Wiltster/entries/15387345">http://www.dailymile.com/people/Wiltster/entries/15387345</a></div><div><br><br>On Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:15:56 PM UTC-4, JohnK wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">On Oct 11, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Tuck wrote: <br> <br>> That's encouraging! <br> <br>It certainly is! Thanks Wilt :) <br> <br>JohnK <br> <br>> <br>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Wilt Alston <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="HIkQXbhIEnQJ">rock.ma...@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <br>> I ran a 3:49 in Buffalo, running damned close to MAF pace most of the time. (For reference, I'm 53, and have one BQ and a 3:19 under my belt, but almost quit running marathons after a really crappy performance in 2010, which I now attribute to too little aerobic training.) <br>> <br>> ...as for how it felt, pleasant does not begin to describe it; it was actually "fun" which is a word I previously thought could not be applied to marathons. <br>> <br>> <br>> On Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:29:59 PM UTC-4, JohnK wrote: <br>> "Trying for a BQ?" <br>> <br>> I don't think so. Trying to see if MAF-only, minimally-shod-only training since last November, and moderating my carbs, doing fasted runs and so on makes a ~3:50 marathon both do-able but also relatively pleasant. <br>> <br>> I would have qualified for Boston in the first two marathons I ran, but those were almost 20 years ago now... And they hurt -- in several ways, but mostly, it seems, because of my marshmallow shoes and broken gait as a result of those shoes. <br>> <br>> I don't rule out going faster than 3:50, but I also don't rule out going slower :) <br>> <br>> I'm looking at it as a training run. Either for trying to go faster in another marathon, or longer (ultra). <br>> <br>> JohnK <br>> <br>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Tuck wrote: <br>> <br>> > Trying for a BQ? <br>> > <br>> > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:15 AM, John Kemp <<a>jo...@jkemp.net</a>> wrote: <br>> > I'm running the Hartford marathon this weekend. On their website, they give this advice about hydration: <a href="http://www.hartfordmarathon.com/Assets/Training+Program/ProperHydrationForDistanceRunning.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.hartfordmarathon.<wbr>com/Assets/Training+Program/<wbr>ProperHydrationForDistanceRunn<wbr>ing.pdf</a> <br>> > <br>> > Pretty balanced - much better than I was expecting, and mostly: "drink to thirst" - I note that Noakes is referenced in the document too... <br>> > <br>> > JohnK <br>> > <br>> > -- <br>> > "Minimalist Runner - Barefoot, Sandals, Shoes..." hosted by Barefoot Ted <br>> > <br>> > Membership Options: <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/huaraches/subscribe" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/<wbr>group/huaraches/subscribe</a> <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > -- <br>> > ______________________________<wbr>___ <br>> > Tucker <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > -- <br>> > "Minimalist Runner - Barefoot, Sandals, Shoes..." hosted by Barefoot Ted <br>> > <br>> > Membership Options: <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/huaraches/subscribe" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/<wbr>group/huaraches/subscribe</a> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> "Minimalist Runner - Barefoot, Sandals, Shoes..." hosted by Barefoot Ted <br>> <br>> Membership Options: <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/huaraches/subscribe" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/<wbr>group/huaraches/subscribe</a> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> ______________________________<wbr>___ <br>> Tucker <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> "Minimalist Runner - Barefoot, Sandals, Shoes..." hosted by Barefoot Ted <br>> <br>> Membership Options: <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/huaraches/subscribe" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/<wbr>group/huaraches/subscribe</a> <br> <br></blockquote></div></div> ------=_Part_1361_3126582.1349981179494-- ------=_Part_1360_18698938.1349981179491--
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