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Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:123316] Re: OT (Possibly) Cholesterol Count
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Apparently Dr. Noakes is taking clients...

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Doug Sims <wdsim...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Fortunately, Bazza is not in the US. (South Africa I think?)
>
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Dan Stoner <dansto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I believe it is still very hard to find a doctor who will support you
> > cutting out the meds and treating with proper diet instead (where
> "proper"
> > includes fat).  It's not how western medicine is done and too many docs
> are
> > still on the low-fat bandwagon.
> >
> > Great to hear that you are feeling so good!
> >
> > - Dan Stoner
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, October 4, 2012 6:06:12 AM UTC-4, Barefoot Bazza wrote:
> >>
> >> Just a thank you to this group (more specifically, the paleo
> dieticians).
> >>
> >> I have yet to see the full results since I just received the call, but
> the
> >> overall "count" for what it's worth has dropped from around 5.1 to 3.9.
> I'm
> >> delighted, particularly since I have a stent and 5.0 is where a "normal"
> >> count should be. I have familial hypercholesterolemia and have been on
> >> statins since way back. On my see-saw carb-addicted diet Crestor and
> Ezetrol
> >> got it down to 5.1. About 4 months ago, I started a rudimentary VLC
> Paleo
> >> regime. I dropped 12 kgs and now my cholesterol is below 4. I must say,
> I
> >> really did think it would go up a bit and I was already framing
> arguments as
> >> to why I should stay on the paleo wagon because I'm feeling so good.
> >>
> >> Now I'm hoping to reduce the statin dosage....
> >>
> >> Next time someone comments on the cream in my coffee or the Tasmanian
> >> grass-fed steak for breakfast...not to mention the eggs fried in
> grass-fed
> >> butter...But I have a feeling that the carb reduction had a big role to
> >> play. Perhaps my body was gobbling up the fats during those nice easy
> runs.
> >> I also often skip meals (horror to the "health experts") now,
> particularly
> >> breakfast or lunch.
> >>
> >> This is doubly exciting for me, since my 9 year old son also has FH
> (count
> >> at 9 now) and I can see a possible solution with a suitable eating
> regime
> >> (even though a low dose statin may be necessary sometime in the
> future). Now
> >> I have to get him running with MAF and without his fancy shoes (yeah
> right)
> >>
> >> To keep on topic - I have just fixed a nagging pain spreading from calf
> to
> >> the lower back both on one side by really, really shortening my stride
> and
> >> getting above a cadence of 180. Thanks to you guys for that as well.
> >>
> >> Sorry about the anecdotal rant. Anecdotes are not science. This was
> just a
> >> long way of saying thank you.
> >>
> >> You guys are legends! A shout out to Sisson, Wolff and a bunch of others
> >> as well.
> >>
> > --
> > "Minimalist Runner - Barefoot, Sandals, Shoes..." hosted by Barefoot Ted
> >
> > Membership Options: http://groups.google.com/group/huaraches/subscribe
>
> --
> "Minimalist Runner - Barefoot, Sandals, Shoes..."  hosted by Barefoot Ted
>
> Membership Options: http://groups.google.com/group/huaraches/subscribe
>



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Apparently Dr. Noakes is taking clients...<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Doug Sims <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:wdsim...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">wdsim...@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-=
color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class=
=3D"gmail_quote">Fortunately, Bazza is not in the US. (South Africa I think=
?)<br>

<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Dan Stoner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:danstoner@=
gmail.com">dansto...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I believe it is still very hard to find a doctor who will support you<=
br>
&gt; cutting out the meds and treating with proper diet instead (where &quo=
t;proper&quot;<br>
&gt; includes fat). =A0It&#39;s not how western medicine is done and too ma=
ny docs are<br>
&gt; still on the low-fat bandwagon.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Great to hear that you are feeling so good!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; - Dan Stoner<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Thursday, October 4, 2012 6:06:12 AM UTC-4, Barefoot Bazza wrote:<b=
r>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Just a thank you to this group (more specifically, the paleo dieti=
cians).<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I have yet to see the full results since I just received the call,=
 but the<br>
&gt;&gt; overall &quot;count&quot; for what it&#39;s worth has dropped from=
 around 5.1 to 3.9. I&#39;m<br>
&gt;&gt; delighted, particularly since I have a stent and 5.0 is where a &q=
uot;normal&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt; count should be. I have familial hypercholesterolemia and have bee=
n on<br>
&gt;&gt; statins since way back. On my see-saw carb-addicted diet Crestor a=
nd Ezetrol<br>
&gt;&gt; got it down to 5.1. About 4 months ago, I started a rudimentary VL=
C Paleo<br>
&gt;&gt; regime. I dropped 12 kgs and now my cholesterol is below 4. I must=
 say, I<br>
&gt;&gt; really did think it would go up a bit and I was already framing ar=
guments as<br>
&gt;&gt; to why I should stay on the paleo wagon because I&#39;m feeling so=
 good.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Now I&#39;m hoping to reduce the statin dosage....<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Next time someone comments on the cream in my coffee or the Tasman=
ian<br>
&gt;&gt; grass-fed steak for breakfast...not to mention the eggs fried in g=
rass-fed<br>
&gt;&gt; butter...But I have a feeling that the carb reduction had a big ro=
le to<br>
&gt;&gt; play. Perhaps my body was gobbling up the fats during those nice e=
asy runs.<br>
&gt;&gt; I also often skip meals (horror to the &quot;health experts&quot;)=
 now, particularly<br>
&gt;&gt; breakfast or lunch.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; This is doubly exciting for me, since my 9 year old son also has F=
H (count<br>
&gt;&gt; at 9 now) and I can see a possible solution with a suitable eating=
 regime<br>
&gt;&gt; (even though a low dose statin may be necessary sometime in the fu=
ture). Now<br>
&gt;&gt; I have to get him running with MAF and without his fancy shoes (ye=
ah right)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; To keep on topic - I have just fixed a nagging pain spreading from=
 calf to<br>
&gt;&gt; the lower back both on one side by really, really shortening my st=
ride and<br>
&gt;&gt; getting above a cadence of 180. Thanks to you guys for that as wel=
l.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Sorry about the anecdotal rant. Anecdotes are not science. This wa=
s just a<br>
&gt;&gt; long way of saying thank you.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; You guys are legends! A shout out to Sisson, Wolff and a bunch of =
others<br>
&gt;&gt; as well.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; &quot;Minimalist Runner - Barefoot, Sandals, Shoes...&quot; hosted by =
Barefoot Ted<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Membership Options: <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/huarache=
s/subscribe" target=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/huaraches/sub=
scribe</a><br>
<br>
--<br>
&quot;Minimalist Runner - Barefoot, Sandals, Shoes...&quot; =A0hosted by Ba=
refoot Ted<br>
<br>
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___________________________<br>Tucker</div>
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