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Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:121749] pain, cortisol, and HR
From: Tuck <tuck...@gmail.com>
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"According to the therapist I saw in Japan in March, my body can handle
large quantities of carbs but not so much the nutrient dense foods. He said
the liver and kidney gets over worked."
Well then, as an experiment for 3 months, try the reverse.
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:43 PM, runs_with_kona <shin.n....@gmail.com>wrote:
> I don't know if good fat bad fat has different impact. Most of my fat
> comes from dairy, olive oil, and coconut oil. Lesser amounts from sea
> food. Veggie oil creeps in when I can't cook. According to the therapist I
> saw in Japan in March, my body can handle large quantities of carbs but not
> so much the nutrient dense foods. He said the liver and kidney gets over
> worked. The first sign is when my right shoulder drops. And soon the
> right big toe flares. If he didn't say anything about the right shoulder I
> would have blown it off.
>
> I've started the oil and socks at night when it got so painful just
> walking.
>
>
> On Saturday, September 22, 2012 8:21:01 PM UTC-6, Highlander wrote:
>
>> Does healthy fat exacerbate gout? I thought that was only the unhealthy
>> veggie fat or grain fed trollop.
>>
>> I had some cracking issues with my feet, but they sorted themselves out
>> about 6 months in to following the Perfect Health Diet (I don't do the VLC
>> either).
>>
>> I imagine there is adjustment to a dryer climate. The body has to learn
>> to put more oil out there. Have you tried coating your feet with coconut
>> oil and wearing socks at night?
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> It's all good (but is it the Best Good?).
>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2012, at 8:16 PM, runs_with_kona <shin....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm weary of too much fat because of the ever looming gout threat. And as
>> my ancestors enjoyed long lives with high carb and seafood, I am not
>> entirely sold on the VLC diet. I haven't changed my diet, I know this skin
>> cracking happens every fall around the time heater kicks on. I moved to
>> Salt Lake in August and have not yet adjusted to the dryness. Drinking by
>> thirst needs some time and I am surprised at how much more salt I am adding
>> to my food.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:50:48 PM UTC-6, Highlander wrote:
>>>
>>> Good question. Are you eating enough saturated fat, RWK?
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> It's all good (but is it the Best Good?).
>>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>>>
>>> On Sep 22, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Tuck <tuc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Skin on the heel is cracking?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 7:12 PM, runs_with_kona <shin....@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> My skin on the feet is cracking and it really hurts to run barefoot. I
>>>> want to stay aerobic, do you think the stress from the pain is sending me
>>>> into the anaerobic zone ? How much pain translates to how much cortisol
>>>> later ? Would this type of pain show up as increased HR ?
>>>>
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<div>"According to the therapist I saw in Japan in March, my body can =
handle large quantities of carbs but not so much the nutrient dense foods. =
He said the liver and kidney gets over worked."</div><div>=A0</div><di=
v>
Well then, as an experiment for 3 months, try the reverse.<br><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:43 PM, runs_with_kona <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:shin.n....@gmail.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">shin.n....@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-=
color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div>I don't know if good fat bad fat has different im=
pact. =A0Most of my fat comes from dairy, olive oil, and coconut oil. =A0Le=
sser amounts from sea food. Veggie oil creeps in when I can't cook. =A0=
According to the therapist I saw in Japan in March, my body can handle larg=
e quantities of carbs but not so much the nutrient dense foods. He said the=
liver and kidney gets over worked. =A0The first sign is when my right shou=
lder drops. =A0And soon the right big toe flares. =A0If he didn't say a=
nything about the right shoulder I would have blown it off.</div>
<div><br></div>I've started the oil and socks at night when it got so p=
ainful just walking.<div class=3D"im"><br><br>On Saturday, September 22, 20=
12 8:21:01 PM UTC-6, Highlander wrote:</div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px=
0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-l=
eft-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"im"><div>Does healthy fat exacerbate gout? =
I thought that was only the unhealthy veggie fat or grain fed trollop.</div=
><div><br></div><div>I had some cracking issues with my feet, but they sort=
ed themselves out about 6 months in to following the Perfect Health Diet (I=
don't do the VLC either).</div>
<div><br></div><div>I imagine there is adjustment to a dryer climate. The b=
ody has to learn to put more oil out there. Have you tried coating your fee=
t with coconut oil and wearing socks at night?=A0<br><br>With abandon,<div>
Patrick</div><div><br></div>It's all good (but is it the Best Good?).<d=
iv><a href=3D"http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org" target=3D"_blank">www.MindYo=
urHeadCoop.org</a></div></div></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On Sep =
22, 2012, at 8:16 PM, runs_with_kona <<a>shin....@gmail.com</a>> wrot=
e:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>I'm weary of too much fat beca=
use of the ever looming gout threat. And as my ancestors enjoyed long lives=
with high carb and seafood, I am not entirely sold on the VLC diet.=A0I ha=
ven't changed my diet, I know this skin cracking happens every fall aro=
und the time heater kicks on. =A0I moved to Salt Lake in August and have no=
t yet adjusted to the dryness. =A0Drinking by thirst needs some time and I =
am surprised at how much more salt I am adding to my food.<div>
<br>On Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:50:48 PM UTC-6, Highlander wrote:<blo=
ckquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-colo=
r:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class=3D"=
gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Good question. Are you eating enough saturated fat, =
RWK?<br><br>With abandon,<div>Patrick</div><div><br></div>It's all good=
(but is it the Best Good?).<div><a href=3D"http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org=
" target=3D"_blank">www.MindYourHeadCoop.org</a></div>
</div><div><br>On Sep 22, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Tuck <<a>tuc...@gmail.com</a=
>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Skin on the heel i=
s cracking?<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 7:12 =
PM, runs_with_kona <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a>shin....@gmail.com</a>></spa=
n> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-=
color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class=
=3D"gmail_quote">
<p>My skin on the feet is cracking and it really hurts to run barefoot. I w=
ant to stay aerobic, do you think the stress from the pain is sending me in=
to the anaerobic zone ?=A0 How much pain translates to how much cortisol la=
ter ?=A0 Would this type of pain show up as increased HR ?</p>
<span><font color=3D"#888888">
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__________________________<u></u>___<br>Tucker</div>
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