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Sean Gavor  
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:45:19 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Minimalist Runner:29673] Adventures in Non-Minimal Running
Does anyone bring their pistol with them when they go running?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36812563/ns/us_news/

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I would love to but its too heavy :)  I have only been a little
nervous is some deep woods a few times but so far I have not thought
'I need my gun'.  I have not heard many (any ?) stories of ultra
runners being attacked.  Anyone have some ?

Jason

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> Does anyone bring their pistol with them when they go running?

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36812563/ns/us_news/

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:21:07 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:29678] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running

A few runners have been attacked by cougars in California.

I read a very funny editorial published in a paper in California, written by
an Alaskan, explaining to the simpletons why folks in Alaska take a gun to
walk the dog.  Hint: they're not worried about muggers... :)
Apparently the Guv ran without his security detail.  I suppose taking a gun
along is a reasonable precaution, and the coyote was just a bonus...

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Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:29673] Adventures in Non-Minimal Running

It's Texas!  Bet this helps him win the election...

Note it's not just a pistol, but a laser-sighted pistol. Bet the rattlers
don't stand a chance.

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> Does anyone bring their pistol with them when they go running?

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36812563/ns/us_news/

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From: Sean Gavor <seanga...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:46:39 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Minimalist Runner:29682] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running
Haha, well, at least the Roadrunner can sleep easy tonight.

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:48:05 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Minimalist Runner:29684] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running
I'm planning on running with bear spray this summer on all my trail
runs.

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Sean Gavor  
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Subject: [Minimalist Runner:29685] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running
The only thing I've been attacked by during an ultra is hyponatremia
and diahheria (not in the same race).

I'd rather deal with the coyote ;)

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Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:29689] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running
On Apr 28, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Evan Thoms wrote:

> I'm planning on running with bear spray this summer on all my trail
> runs.

I'm seriously considering bear spray when I attempt my SCAR run in a month or so, which is 70 miles through the Smokies, which are notorious for bears at least around the shelters....  I'll be solo on much of the trip, other than the 1st few miles at the start, perhaps a little in the middle near clingmans dome, and near the end.  But solo for I'd guess at least 55-60 miles of it.  (Can't find anyone else that wants to go - go figure!)

/Sean

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:24:49 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Minimalist Runner:29690] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running
Pistol with a laser sight and hollow point rounds.  And an under-
barrel grenade launcher, just in case it's a really big snake...
Because simple death is not enough.  You need to see the head actually
explode.  It's a new trend in the "Leave no trace" movement.

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Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:29695] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running

" It's a new trend in the "Leave no trace" movement."

LOL

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Subject: [Minimalist Runner:29699] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running
I've heard coyotes taking out neighborhood cats at night. Sounds like
they're having a party.

We love our wildlife here in Texas, unless it looks at you sideways,
then you shoot it.

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 More options Apr 28 2010, 3:24 pm
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Subject: [Minimalist Runner:29700] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running
Whenever I visit my parents I ALWAYS carry a pistol (.32 Colt) on my
runs.  They live several miles from a small town on a farm and the
area farmers do not keep their dogs locked in a yard.  When I run the
roads I am always approached by the dogs on my route.  Usually they
can be faced down since they are not actually on their "home" ground
but occasionally I must fire a round into the ground in front of one
of them.  (I had planned on killing one dog but he got nailed by
another farmer driving a pickup.)

The coyote that approached Gov. Perry and his dog was way too
accustomed to people.  No coyote in my part of Texas will knowingly
get within rifle range of a human.

The best part of the news story is the non-PC aspect.  Perry was not
apologetic.  He killed the coyote and moved on; left if for mulch, as
he said.  It will really piss-off the pussy liberals here in Texas and
nation-wide.

BFFB

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> Does anyone bring their pistol with them when they go running?

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36812563/ns/us_news/

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It's "Texas."  No need to say anything more.  No wonder we have so
many (too many) Texans in Colorado.

Harry

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Oh no, let's not revisit the war between the states here. LOL.

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Subject: [Minimalist Runner:29707] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running

On Apr 28, 2:15 pm, Sean Butler <s...@2sparrows.org> wrote:

> I'm seriously considering bear spray when I attempt my SCAR run in a month or so, which is 70 miles through the Smokies, which are notorious for bears at least around the shelters....  I'll be solo on much of the trip, other than the 1st few miles at the start, perhaps a little in the middle near clingmans dome, and near the end.  But solo for I'd guess at least 55-60 miles of it.  (Can't find anyone else that wants to go - go figure!)

It's only cuz you haven't asked!! When are you going?  Damn SCAR has
been on "the" list for two years now.

As for the fine Gov. from Texas, I'm with Tuck on he probably just won
reelection, Pres. Regan chopped wood,  Pres. Bush II cleared brush and
Gov Perry shoots coyotes.  Playing to the masses.

Josh

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Sean Gavor  
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Subject: [Minimalist Runner:29710] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running
I should have known better.  No more posts with political overtones.

Not even if Dick Cheney runs the Wyoming Marathon barefoot.

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Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:29711] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running

I had an American History professor in college who did standup comedy, his lectures were always packed.  Whenever Texas came up he would inevitably  interrupt the subject and say "You know, I wish they'd split Alaska in two so Texas would be the third largest state!".  ;-)

BAPper

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Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:29715] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running

Oh, the post was fine.  At least it was running-related!

It would be super cool if he ran in Vibrams with a pistol, but that may take
time... :)

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Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:29727] Adventures in Non-Minimal Running

You know, dead animals are definitely NOT recommended for the making of
mulch.  Guess he's not much of a gardener.  On the positive side, he is
feeding the maggots.

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> Does anyone bring their pistol with them when they go running?

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36812563/ns/us_news/

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Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:29728] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running

BFFB, I run with my pistol, too, but haven't found a great way to make it
work.  Right now, I carry in the camelbak, but the draw speed is atrocious.
 How do you carry your .32 while you're running?

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Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:29732] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running

This should be good... We're definitely entering new ground for this group.

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:44:54 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Minimalist Runner:29737] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running
Devan Bennett,

I went to a saddlemaker/bootmaker and had a custom holster made of
thin leather.  It's slides onto an old military web belt from my dad's
military days.  It closely hugs my body, horizontally, to the left of
my belly button, with the handle pointing towards my right hand.  The
closure is a simple flap with a good, large snap.  Retrieving it is as
simple as dragging my hand across the snap to undo it and then
grabbing the pistol.

I had considered my 1911A1 .45 but as you might guess, it is too bulky
and heavy with which to run.  The Colt .32 is perfect; small enough to
carry easily but with a large enough caliber to damage anything I
hit.  (Although a really large dog would probably need another round
or two.)

Any kind of belt would work as long as it has some width to it.  A
skinny belt allows the pistol to bobble about and beat the hell out of
your belly.  This web belt is almost as wide as the pistol so it sits
without moving around.

I'd send you a picture of the rig but I keep it at my folk's house,
300 miles away.

BFFB

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> BFFB, I run with my pistol, too, but haven't found a great way to make it
> work.  Right now, I carry in the camelbak, but the draw speed is atrocious.
>  How do you carry your .32 while you're running?

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Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:29739] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running

This list is killing me....  :-)

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Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:29741] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running

So your draw is across the body?  I'll have to look into carrying that way.
 Of course, it might not make much of a difference; I carry a 4.25 inch 1911
and I wouldn't feel comfortable with a minor caliber.  Where I run the
concerns are #3 cougar, #2 bear w/cubs, #1 pot farmer—I've surprised both #2
and #1 out in the woods, and while "run like h___" was a great strategy it
was nice to have a plan B too.

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 More options Apr 28 2010, 10:49 pm
From: Devan Bennett <devan.benn...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:49:38 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 28 2010 10:49 pm
Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:29742] Re: Adventures in Non-Minimal Running

We call it "broadening horizons"  ;)

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