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Tuck  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 2:51 pm
From: Tuck <tuck...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:51:39 -0400
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 2:51 pm
Subject: Foot Growth

I was hoping to put together a couple of posts at my blog with some
thoughts on my experience in Costa Rica, and may yet get to it...

But I wanted to throw this idea out there.

My hypothesis about why my right foot and leg have been so troublesome in
this barefoot-style journey has been that I developed some bad movement
patterns back when I was put in a cast for a broken toe when I was 11 (33
years ago...).

It sort of fit the evidence, but what are the odds that a broken toe could
lead to a lifelong infirmity?

Down in CR I saw a cool-looking banyan tree near the beach.  Since banyan
trees are pretty much the perfect climbing tree,  I gave it a go.
Barefoot, of course.

I got about halfway up the buttress I was climbing a felt a shooting pain
in my right foot.  I rebalanced my self and tried to weight the foot again,
same shooting pain.  I was putting my foot in such a way that my entire
weight was on the foot, forcing it to spread out.  And the shooting pain
was in the toe that I'd broken 33 years before.

It may have been an adhesion, or perhaps something I'm not aware of...  But
I've got a new project now.  I want to see if that shooting pain
reoccurs...

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Doug Sims  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 3:35 pm
From: Doug Sims <wdsim...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:35:50 -0400
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 3:35 pm
Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:108463] Foot Growth
Interesting. So, what is the setup for this experiment?

I read something a few weeks ago about how the compensations we make
for injuries (unconscious or not) tend to carry over well after we are
healed. I think I read that from a link posted in this group, but I
don't remember now. Does anyone else remember that?

I have been having similar thoughts about my big toes. I haven't
broken them (at least, I don't think I have), but they are horribly
inflexible. I have discovered that they do not like to go beyond flat
when I try to curl them downward. So, I am bending them under every
chance I get to try and stretch out those tight, stiff tendons and
muscles. Not much progress so far, but I am getting new little pains
and pops in them while walking around during the day. We'll see if
that is a good sign or not. :)


 
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Tuck  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 3:38 pm
From: Tuck <tuck...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:38:43 -0400
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:108465] Foot Growth

"So, what is the setup for this experiment?"

I think I need to do more climbing in my bare feet.  Not sure exactly where
to do that...  Not a lot of banyan trees in CT, unfortunately.

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Doug Sims  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 3:40 pm
From: Doug Sims <wdsim...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:40:29 -0400
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:108466] Foot Growth
Rope ladder or cargo net hung from a tree or wall?

I found out quickly that the short rope ladder on my kids' playground
takes an awful lot of foot strength to climb on. Luckily it is only 4
feet tall, so I didn't need much strength on it.


 
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Tuck  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 3:44 pm
From: Tuck <tuck...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:25 -0400
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 3:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:108468] Foot Growth

That's not a bad idea.  I was thinking of a climbing gym, but that would do
the trick as well...

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Rich Frantz  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 4:02 pm
From: Rich Frantz <richfra...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:02:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 4:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:108468] Foot Growth

Do you happen to have an in-ground pool?
http://www.aquaclimb.com/


 
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Doug Sims  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 4:05 pm
From: Doug Sims <wdsim...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:05:36 -0400
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 4:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:108472] Foot Growth
Rich, that is both the coolest thing and the stupidest thing I have ever seen.
It is really cool since it is a climbing wall that you can use from
your pool and if you fall, you just fall back into the pool. However,
it is the stupidest thing since the point of climbing is to NOT fall,
and there is no better way to insure that you fall than to try
climbing while you are soaking wet.

I must say though, it makes me want a pool, sort of.


 
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gordo  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 4:38 pm
From: gordo <gaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:38:53 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: Foot Growth
On Apr 30, 1:35 pm, Doug Sims <wdsim...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I read something a few weeks ago about how the compensations we make
> for injuries (unconscious or not) tend to carry over well after we are
> healed. I think I read that from a link posted in this group, but I
> don't remember now. Does anyone else remember that?

Was it here?

http://www.bettermovement.org/

Gordo


 
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Denise Skidmore  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 4:40 pm
From: Denise Skidmore <deniseskidm...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:40:42 -0400
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:108465] Foot Growth

"Somatics: Reawakening The Mind's Control Of Movement, Flexibility, And
Health" by Thomas Hanna postulates that compensation patterns are a huge
part of the aging process and asymmetry problems.  Lesson 1 is good when my
back is tense, but my body is too messed up to even do some of the later
lessons.  I started "The Art of Slowing Down" by Edward Yu last night,
which also borrows heavily from Fendelkrais.

I broke my toe about 10 years ago, and it still gets sore when a rain storm
is coming.  Something didn't heal 100%, I don't know if getting rid of
compensation patters will cause the bone to reshape itself some.


 
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Tuck  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 5:02 pm
From: Tuck <tuck...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:02:49 -0400
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 5:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:108472] Foot Growth

That's totally awesome.  I want one.

Sadly, anything that asks you to "request a quote" is probably going to be
very expensive...

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Denise Skidmore  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 5:37 pm
From: Denise Skidmore <deniseskidm...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:37:49 -0400
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 5:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:108478] Foot Growth

And you might need a deeper pool to use safely, unless you already have an
in-ground with a deep end.


 
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Doug Sims  
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 More options May 1 2012, 8:17 am
From: Doug Sims <wdsim...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 08:17:48 -0400
Local: Tues, May 1 2012 8:17 am
Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:108478] Foot Growth
I'm sure this product belongs in the "if you have to ask, you can't
afford it" range.

This looks like something that RedGreen would try and build himself though.


 
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Andy Southerland  
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 More options May 1 2012, 4:58 pm
From: Andy Southerland <andy.southerl...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:58:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, May 1 2012 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: Foot Growth
Comparing the height of this thing to the height of the crashpads in
the rock gym, I think the shallow end would be sufficient for these.
Very cool...

On Apr 30, 5:37 pm, Denise Skidmore <deniseskidm...@gmail.com> wrote:


 
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Joe Maller  
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 More options May 1 2012, 8:26 pm
From: Joe Maller <joemal...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 17:26:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, May 1 2012 8:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Minimalist Runner:108465] Foot Growth

Come into the city for one of the Movnat meetups, the groundwork and
balancing stuff is fantastic for foot strengthening. There's often some
rock scrambling too.

joe


 
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Tuck  
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 More options May 1 2012, 9:57 pm
From: Tuck <tuck...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 21:57:31 -0400
Local: Tues, May 1 2012 9:57 pm
Subject: Re: Foot Growth

That's probably a great idea...

On Tuesday, May 1, 2012, Joe Maller <joemal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Come into the city for one of the Movnat meetups, the groundwork and

balancing stuff is fantastic for foot strengthening. There's often some
rock scrambling too.
> joe

> On Monday, April 30, 2012 3:38:43 PM UTC-4, Tuck wrote:

>> "So, what is the setup for this experiment?"

>> I think I need to do more climbing in my bare feet.  Not sure exactly

where to do that...  Not a lot of banyan trees in CT, unfortunately.

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 More options May 2 2012, 10:18 am
From: jeeters <spain...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 07:18:36 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, May 2 2012 10:18 am
Subject: Re: Foot Growth
i broke my leg (full on broke the tibia, basically bent the fibula) 20
years ago and since transitioning to barefoot/minimalist running, the
imbalance/compensation issues have become ridiculously obvious.  i've
been getting ART treatment for PF (and the tight calf that goes along
w/ it, and some ankle issues that seemed to be part of the problem,
etc etc. etc...) for something like 6mos now and during all this some
muscle imbalances have been identified and are in the process of being
remedied.  the sports doc was convinced my tight calf was not getting
better b/c i was running horribly asymmetrically, but after
videotaping myself on a treadmill from a bunch of diff angles, she's
no longer convinced that's the issue (yes, i realize watching me run
on a treadmill isn't a sure thing for identifying issues, but it at
least ruled out a blatant asymmetry between legs).

point being: i do think "smaller" injuries from long ago can turn into
nagging issues down the line, given my "larger" injury is a royal pain
ITA.

maybe i should switch from running to climbing trees.  that sounds way
more fun.

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 More options May 2 2012, 10:29 am
From: gordo <gaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 07:29:26 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, May 2 2012 10:29 am
Subject: Re: Foot Growth
Feldenkrais is really good at eliminating compensation patterns. Give
Ed Yu's book a try.

There are also some free Feldenkrais audio files here:

http://openatm.org/recordings.html

Gordo

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