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mlaen  
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 More options Aug 24 2007, 3:31 pm
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From: "mlaen" <ml...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:31:09 -0700
Local: Fri, Aug 24 2007 3:31 pm
Subject: Krv u ispljuvku???
Jucer sam poslje jednog zarona pljuvao krv dosta dugo... malo me panika
uhvatila kad sam i jutros krv ispljuvao...
e sad ja bi prvo pluca pregledao (iako nije bilo kaslja...), pa me zanima
sta trebam napraviti (koji pregled) i da li se to moze napraviti u Rijeci?
Ako nisu pluca u pitanju, mogli bi bit sinusi ali nema nis krvi kad ispusem
nos nego samo kad se... hm... iz hrekam dobro :\ jel svejedno moguce?
A vrat?? jel ima sta u vratu sto bi moglo krvarit?

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Mandarinaguy  
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 More options Aug 24 2007, 6:59 am
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From: "Mandarinaguy" <mandarina...@gmail.KOM>
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:59:44 +0200
Local: Fri, Aug 24 2007 6:59 am
Subject: Re: Krv u ispljuvku???

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> Jucer sam poslje jednog zarona pljuvao krv dosta dugo... malo me panika
> uhvatila kad sam i jutros krv ispljuvao...
> e sad ja bi prvo pluca pregledao (iako nije bilo kaslja...), pa me zanima
> sta trebam napraviti (koji pregled) i da li se to moze napraviti u Rijeci?
> Ako nisu pluca u pitanju, mogli bi bit sinusi ali nema nis krvi kad
> ispusem
> nos nego samo kad se... hm... iz hrekam dobro :\ jel svejedno moguce?
> A vrat?? jel ima sta u vratu sto bi moglo krvarit?

Moze biti iz uha najprije, bas u zadnje vrijeme citam po forumima.
Nije nista opasno ali treba pazit kod izjednacavanja tlaka da ga ne radis
kad si vec duboko. Preporuca se raditodmah pri zaronu ili neposredno prije
zarona.
Na velikoj dubini dolazi do prenagle kontrakcije u uhu koja oze dovesti do
pucanja bubnjica

Evo ti link pa malo jos procitaj o tome na forumu:
http://forums.deeperblue.net/safety/63116-blebs-coughing-blood.html

Pozdrav,

Kiki


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tolky  
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 More options Aug 24 2007, 7:43 am
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From: tolky <tolkien2...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 04:43:47 -0700
Local: Fri, Aug 24 2007 7:43 am
Subject: Re: Krv u ispljuvku???
On 24 kol, 21:31, "mlaen" <ml...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Jucer sam poslje jednog zarona pljuvao krv dosta dugo... malo me panika
> uhvatila kad sam i jutros krv ispljuvao...
> e sad ja bi prvo pluca pregledao (iako nije bilo kaslja...), pa me zanima
> sta trebam napraviti (koji pregled) i da li se to moze napraviti u Rijeci?
> Ako nisu pluca u pitanju, mogli bi bit sinusi ali nema nis krvi kad ispusem
> nos nego samo kad se... hm... iz hrekam dobro :\ jel svejedno moguce?
> A vrat?? jel ima sta u vratu sto bi moglo krvarit?

moguce da je pokoja alveola u plucima popucala usljed vece dubine,
nerastezanja i razgibavanja prije ronjenja ili pak forsiranja ... ako
je to nista strasno ali svakako posjeti ljecnika.

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mislav.lozan...@st.t-com.hr  
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 More options Aug 24 2007, 8:45 am
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From: mislav.lozan...@st.t-com.hr
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:45:23 -0700
Local: Fri, Aug 24 2007 8:45 am
Subject: Re: Krv u ispljuvku???
Ja sam tako pljucao krv nekoliko puta i jednom  ak 10 dana.
Ništa što ne e pro i ali bi trebao pauzirati par dana.
Nije ni bitno što je, samo pusti malo vremena da pro e.

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apnea.fana...@gmail.com  
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 More options Aug 24 2007, 1:04 pm
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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:04:15 -0700
Local: Fri, Aug 24 2007 1:04 pm
Subject: Re: Krv u ispljuvku???
On 24 kol, 14:45, mislav.lozan...@st.t-com.hr wrote:

> Ja sam tako pljucao krv nekoliko puta i jednom  ak 10 dana.
> Ništa što ne e pro i ali bi trebao pauzirati par dana.
> Nije ni bitno što je, samo pusti malo vremena da pro e.

Ako i dalje plitko i ubzano dišeš otidi do doktora, zna se dogodit ako
forsiras dubinu, na pocetku kad sam tek probijala dubinu dogodilo mi
se da sam u pljuvacki imala sukrvicu ( prije par godina) od tada dosta
rstezem prsni kos, i promjenala sam nacin kompezacije, sada koristim
frenzela i mogucnost za barotraumu pluca je manja. Moj savjet:
polako probijaj dubinu, metar po metar, ne forsiraj se jer onda nema
ništa smisla, more je tu da gustamo a ne da zavrsimo u bolnici.

Pozdrav od Vedre


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Mandarinaguy  
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 More options Aug 24 2007, 1:48 pm
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From: "Mandarinaguy" <mandarina...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:48:23 +0200
Local: Fri, Aug 24 2007 1:48 pm
Subject: Re: Krv u ispljuvku???

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On 24 kol, 14:45, mislav.lozan...@st.t-com.hr wrote:

> Ja sam tako pljucao krv nekoliko puta i jednom  ak 10 dana.
> Nista sto ne e pro i ali bi trebao pauzirati par dana.
> Nije ni bitno sto je, samo pusti malo vremena da pro e.

Ako i dalje plitko i ubzano dises otidi do doktora, zna se dogodit ako
forsiras dubinu, na pocetku kad sam tek probijala dubinu dogodilo mi
se da sam u pljuvacki imala sukrvicu ( prije par godina) od tada dosta
rstezem prsni kos, i promjenala sam nacin kompezacije, sada koristim
frenzela i mogucnost za barotraumu pluca je manja. Moj savjet:
polako probijaj dubinu, metar po metar, ne forsiraj se jer onda nema
nista smisla, more je tu da gustamo a ne da zavrsimo u bolnici.

Pozdrav od Vedre

Kako rastezes prsni kos? Koje vjezbe?


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tomo.kraso...@amis.net  
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 More options Aug 25 2007, 12:02 pm
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From: tomo.kraso...@amis.net
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:02:48 -0700
Local: Sat, Aug 25 2007 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: Krv u ispljuvku???
Imaš sve napisano na EFSI !!! Ideš pod: Podvodni ribolov pa imaš pod
Zdravlje ronioca,Barotrauma plu a u ronjenju na dah.
Sa ovim nije baš zajebancije mislim da ti je pukla koja alveola pa  eš
sad morat malo odmorit.Onda iz po etka lagano mala i onda velika
dubina.Isto se dogodilo mom prijatelju pa ako te zanima pogledaj si
ovaj post na Apnei opremljen sa sli icama: http://www.apnea2000-ar.si/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2175

Lp Tomo


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Vedran Eterovic  
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 More options Sep 4 2007, 6:23 am
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From: "Vedran Eterovic" <ved...@aketerovic.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:23:37 +0200
Local: Tues, Sep 4 2007 6:23 am
Subject: Re: Krv u ispljuvku???
Vazno je da u sto skorijem roku posjetis doktora.
Najvjerovatnije je barotrauma .Odnosno, kada si izranjao nisi ispustao zrak
tako da se zrak u plucima sirio sto je rezultiralo pucanjem
kapirala.Najvjerovatnije nije nista strasno međutim ipak bi trebao otici
doktoru da vidis da ti nije sta ostalo krvariti jer bi u tom slucaju u
plucima se talozila krv , i dolazi do gusenja.

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strippy  
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 More options Sep 5 2007, 2:04 am
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From: "strippy" <ive.suricbr...@zd.t-com.hr>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:04:03 +0200
Local: Wed, Sep 5 2007 2:04 am
Subject: Re: Krv u ispljuvku???
prijatelju
decko roni na dah
pri ronjenju na dah nema ispustanja ni jednog baloncica zraka u ni u kojoj
situaciji osim u situaciji kada bi na nekoj dubini udahnuo zrak iz boce ili
nekog autonomnog aparata...
krv je od pucanja alveola ili od ostecenja sinusa...
alveole pucaju kada :
-pluca nisu prilagodena i naviknuta na neku dubinu,
 -kada osoba ne razgiba ''pluca'' prije urona te
-  kada se osoba prepakira zrakom...
pozdrav
ive

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 More options Sep 6 2007, 3:41 am
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From: Ante <ante_simone...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:41:26 -0700
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Subject: Re: Krv u ispljuvku???
Ma tooo, Ive!
Vidi se 'ko je sluša na satu! :-)
Imaš 5, sjedi! :-)

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 More options Sep 6 2007, 3:50 am
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Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:50:06 +0200
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Subject: Re: Krv u ispljuvku???
naklon ucitelju

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 More options Sep 6 2007, 6:12 pm
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Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 00:12:38 +0200
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Subject: Re: Krv u ispljuvku???
he he

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 More options Sep 7 2007, 2:05 am
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Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:05:26 +0200
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Subject: Re: Krv u ispljuvku???
oh marko i ti si bio tamo ;))))
he he

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 More options Sep 7 2007, 4:29 am
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Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:29:39 +0200
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Subject: Re: Krv u ispljuvku???
Jel moľe bit i da se duąnik malčice oątetio?

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