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TRAINING TO SEE AURAS V4

by

Robert Bruce

(C) Copyright 1990


1. Opening:

This article takes a fresh look at auras - what they are,
where they come from, and shows how anyone can learn to see
them. Seeing auras is not as hard as you may think - if you
go about it the right way. This is an easy step by step guide
to doing just that. It starts right at the beginning, with
the easiest to see of all auras - the aura of colour - and
working up, in easy stages, to the more illusive and difficult
human aura.

An aura is the most visible part of the subtle energy
processes going on within all physical objects. All matter
has an aura of some kind - even a humble rock - but it is
pretty dull when compared with the complex interplay of
rainbow colours that make up a living human aura. Auras
emanate from all physical objects, life forces and colours,
as well as from many other energy sources.

The first step in this tutorial makes use of a little known
fact - that colours have auras.

Every colour has it's own unique aura. This is of a
completely different colour from the original. Auras, given
off by bright, primary colours, are much denser and far easier
to see than any other type of aura. Using the auras of
colours, as a training aid, has most people seeing an aura the
very first time they try.

I have been able to see auras for many years. I was not born
with this ability, but taught myself - the hard way. It
took me several years before I could see enough of an aura to
make it a worthwhile practice! I know the problems inherent
in developing auric sight, and this new training method is
designed to help overcome them.


2. How Auric Sight Works:

Auric sight - as with all forms of clairvoyant sight - depends
upon the eyes and the normal optical sight process to work.
Physical and non-physical sight are very closely related.
They are both forms of perception that allow our brains to
perceive energy, of one type or another, as a sight picture.

Here is why:

A. Normal sight:

Eyes receive light - light being a type of energy. Eyes
focus light energy onto light sensitive nerve tissue at the
back of the eye, connected to the optic nerve. Basically,
this light sensitive tissue changes focussed light energy into
a stream of complex electrical signals. These signals are
passed, via the optic nerve, to the sight centre of the brain.
The brain then interprets these signals into a rich visual
picture - what we call normal sight.

B. Auric sight:

The brow centre receives a more subtle type of energy than
light. This type of energy can only be received by the brow
centre (often called the third eye or brow chakra) when it is
active and tuned in to receive that type of energy. The brow
centre is situated directly between the eyes and is intimately
connected with normal optical sight.

Energy received by the brow centre is passed along to the
sight centre of the brain - the same as with normal sight.
The brain interprets anything it receives in it's sight centre
as a visual picture. It interprets auric energy as a sight
picture - as coloured bands of light surrounding the subject.

* The eyes are the organs for normal optical sight (a
physical organ).

* The brow centre is the organ for non-physical sight (a non-
physical organ).

Both these organs, above, are situated in the same general
area, i.e., the brow centre is situated in the brow, directly
between the eyes. The common location and similar function of
both organs (sight) suggests there is a close relationship
between them, i.e., the eyes, the brow centre and the sight
centre of the brain are linked. My research confirms this:
that all forms of non-physical sight are closely linked with
the process of normal optical sight.

Although there is a relationship between optical sight and the
brow centre - an aura is definitely _not_ any type of light.
Some people believe auras are still light, but light at a much
higher frequency than normal light - that is only visible to a
clairvoyant. If this were true, though, it would be possible
to detect and measure this light with the sophisticated
electronic instruments available today. There are scientific
instruments, electronic cameras etc, that can be tuned to
detect _any_ part of the light spectrum - no matter how
refined. For example: infra red, ultra violet, x rays, gamma
rays, etc, all these can be detected - but auras cannot.
Therefore, it is logical to suppose that auras are _not_
composed of any type of light.


3. Aura Cameras:

But there are aura cameras - you might say - that can take
pictures of the human aura? You might even have a picture of
your own aura, taken at a psychic fair. How can this be?

An aura camera does NOT take an actual picture of an aura.
It cannot actually see an aura. It merely creates the
illusion of an aura on film.

How an aura camera works:

A. Sensors are placed on the skin - or fitted into a
chair so they contact the subject's skin. These sensors
measure the electrical resistance in the skin (galvanic
skin response). Electrical resistance in the skin varies,
according to salt and moisture level. These levels are
affected by many things: diet, fluids, health,
temperature, sweating, emotion, mood, activity, etc.

B. These readings are fed directly into a small
electronic processor, attached to the camera (usually a
small black box) and interpreted by it. This processor
then generates a pattern of electrical signals, from these
readings, according to how it is programmed.

C. This pattern of signals is then fed into a specially
modified camera. Inside the camera, an optical colouring
device creates a variable pattern of coloured lights, and
beams this directly onto the film, as the picture is taken.
This gives the illusion of a colourful aura surrounding the
subject - according to the pattern generated by the initial
readings.


Because of the way these cameras are set up, you will rarely
get two pictures exactly the same. This is because of the
large number of coloured patterns possible, that can be
generated by slightly different sensor readings . It would
be rare to get two identical sets of sensor readings from one
person and, therefore, have two identical aura photographs
taken in the same day.

An aura photograph is the camera designer's idea of what your
aura _should_ look like - according to their research. This
research is based upon linking clairvoyant observations with
the galvanic skin response on test subjects. The designers
have attempted to give a specific colour value to different
patterns of galvanic skin responses.

An aura photograph, therefore, is an electronically created
illusion - not an actual photograph of an aura.


4. Auric Theory:

My theory is: that light is necessary for the brow centre to
tune into and focus on auric energy. An aura being a visual
representation of this energy, created by the sight centre of
the brain.

This appears to be the only logical explanation for auric
sight.

5. The Complexity Of Normal Vision:

The process of auric sight may sound very complicated, but is
really _very_ simple, when you compare it with the process of
normal, optical sight - that simple, visual thing we all take
for granted. Look around the room you are in now, look out of
a window - what do you see? Think about all the millions of
objects and colours and tones you are seeing - all at once -
in incredible three dimensional detail. Think about how, no
matter how fast you turn around, your brain keeps up with the
fantastically complex image you are seeing. Your eyes pass on
an _incredible_ amount of information to your brain - but your
brain interprets it all instantly. Normal optical sight is
an incredibly complex and powerful ability. Compare this,
with the few colours and swirls of light you see in a human
aura - no matter how beautiful and complex it might seem - it
is still a very simple picture. There is really no comparison
between these two abilities - normal optical sight is vastly
more complex, and requires much more of the brain's power,
than auric sight does.

To recap the above: Auric sight is linked to and depends
upon normal optical sight, in order to function. What you
see, when you see an aura, is your brain's interpretation of
reflected energy, emanating from your subject. Your eyes are
used to tune and focus your brow centre into this energy. An
electrical representation of this energy is passed to your
brain's sight centre, where it is interpreted as a sight
picture by your brain. In the case of an aura, your brain
shows you coloured bands of light surrounding your subject.


6. Light And The Aura:

Light is necessary in order to see the main aura of anything.
Living auras react in the presence of light - expanding and
brightening. This reaction is most noticeable when a living
aura is exposed to sunlight. You could say that auras are
photo-sensitive.

I have made extensive observations of this light reaction. I
have observed the auras of people inside a house, then
immediately taking them outside, into the sunlight. The
living auras of people expand in sunlight, and are much
brighter. They fairly sparkle with life in strong, direct
sunlight. I have seen auras expand to several times their
normal size in sunlight.

Another interesting observation, that adds weight to this
argument, that auras are not light - but that light is
necessary, in order for auric sight to work: the main aura
cannot be seen in complete darkness. If auras were indeed
light, why is it necessary for there to be light, in order to
see them? This shows that light and normal optical sight are
an important part of auric sight.

Note: In total darkness, it is possible to see some slight
activity around the energy body, close to the skin. This is
almost invisible, but looks like tiny, very faint strands and
sparks of bluish light. This is very faint and most
noticeable around your own fingertips, when they are brought
together in front of you.

It is also possible to see small but intense points of light,
coming from fully active primary energy centres (chakras).
These must be _extremely_ active for this to be seen, and you
must also be very focussed on your subject. This takes a lot
of skill to do, and the subject must be very developed -
energy wise - in order for this to be observed. This is far
easier to see if there is a little available light, even if
you can only make out vague shadows - it gives you something
to focus upon.

To observe any part of the energy body, in darkness, memory
based visualisation is used to focus the brow centre into a
subject. You have to know exactly where the subject is (in
total darkness) and be able to accurately gauge their
distance, shape and position, and see them clearly in your
mind's eye.

I think, for the above, that both astral sight and
clairvoyance play a part, for those that can see energy
activity in total darkness. This appears to be the only
logical explanation for this phenomena.

Note: Light is _not_ necessary for clairvoyant or astral
sight to work, but the eyes and their normal focussing ability
are still used, but with memory based focussing and
visualisation, instead of normal light based focussing. You
can see with astral and clairvoyant sight, just as well in
total darkness, as you can in full light.


7. Viewing Method:

The same basic technique, used to see the aura of colour, is
used to see all other types of aura, including the human aura.
This same technique is also a part of full clairvoyance.
This is why looking at the auras of colours is such good
training for seeing the human aura. The aura of colour is far
denser and easier to see than the human aura. This allows the
auric viewing technique to be learned much easier and faster,
than does practising on the more difficult human aura.


8. The Auras Of Colours:


The auras of colours

+--------+---------------------------+
| Object | Auric Colour |
+--------+---------------------------+
| Red | Green (Bluegreen) |
| Orange | Pale Green |
| Yellow | Pale Blue |
| Green | Orange |
| Blue | Yellow |
| Indigo | Gold |
| Violet | Pale Gold |
| Pink | Iridescent Green |
+--------+---------------------------+
Table 1: Auric colours given off by
some normal, physical colours.


The exact shade and tone of a colour's aura varies a great
deal, according to the shade and tone of the colour you are
observing. Auras are also affected by the background colour
against which they are highlighted, when observed.


9. Afterimages:

Auric colours are similar in appearance to after images.
Afterimages are generated by staring - for twenty seconds or
so - at a brightly illuminated colour, and then quickly
closing your eyes, or looking away.

It is commonly thought: that afterimages are generated by
colour depletion, of the rods and cones in the eyes, caused by
staring at one colour for too long. This generates the
reverse, or negative colour, of that colour. An afterimage
stays in sight until this colour depletion is corrected, and
the eyes return to normal.

I disagree with this theory - and for very good reasons.
Afterimages are generated by staring for a long time at a
coloured object - for twenty of thirty seconds, or more. This
is why I disagree with this theory: When auric sight is more
advanced, the aura of a colour can be seen clearly, almost the
instant a coloured object is glanced at with auric sight. No
prolonged staring is required to produce an aura.

I have just done a test, while sitting here typing this.
Across the room from me, about seven feet away, is a chair.
Hanging over it's back is a bright-blue shirt. I have done
no exercises to stimulate my auric sight, at all. It is early
in the morning now, about 6am, and I have not long woken up.
A clear, dense, yellow aura begins to appear in just under
four seconds (I timed it). This is, surely, far too short a
time to generate an afterimage? I did this several times and
it became faster and easier to do, and the aura brighter, each
time.

Now, you could say that my eyes are becoming depleted of the
colour blue, by continuing to do this, thus more easily
generating the yellow aura. So, I turn around and look at a
red shirt hanging on a hook behind me, on the other side of
the room. This time, a clear, dense, bright-green aura
appears in just under five seconds. This is _far_ too short a
time to generate an afterimage? Now, when I am on what I
call, a clairvoyant high, the auras of colours appear to me,
almost the instant I glance at them - within one second.
There is no appreciable delay at all, they are just there,
ballooning out from colours, as I look at them.

The auras I see, around colours as well as people, do drag
slightly at my eyes, creating a kind of afterimage effect if I
stare for too long at it. This effect is similar to how a
normal afterimage behaves - dragging and following my field of
view.

Now, when I observe the aura of a person, I normally ask them
to remove some of their clothing. This gives me a much
clearer view of their aura, without the interference caused by
the colours of their clothing. I see clear, bright colours in
these auras, building up from bare skin. My point here is
this: bare skin has _no_ colour that can generate any kind
of coloured afterimage.

To be truthful, though, the auric colours I see around
colours, as well as people, are often still visible, hanging
briefly before my eyes, when I look away or close my eyes.
This _is_ a coloured afterimage - but created by staring at an
aura's colour _not_ at a physical colour.

Another interesting point: the colours of any afterimages I
get, when observing living human auras, are exactly the same
colours, as the colours of the aura I am looking at - there is
_no_ reverse colour effect at all, with a bare skin, living
aura.

So, if colour depletion, of the rods and cones in the eyes, is
solely responsible for afterimages, how can this happen?

A better way of explaining the reverse colour afterimage
effect is: (slow auric colours).

By staring hard at a colour, the auric colour of that subject
is slowly impressed upon the sight centre of the brain. It is
_not_ the eyes that are depleted of colour, but that the auric
colour has been impressed upon the brain's sight centre.

The afterimages that appear, when you stare at primary
colours, are the same as the auric colours generated by those
colours. The similarity in these colours - rather than
contradicting the validity of the auric colour of colour -
supports them. Why would they be any different?

You will, in the early stages of training to see auras, cause
quite a strong after image effect. This will drag and follow
your eyes, and still be seen when you close your eyes or look
away. This is the slow auric image effect - caused by staring
so intently, and for so long, while trying to master the basic
technique for seeing auras.

This after image effect lessens in stages. Once the basic
technique is mastered, most of the afterimage effect
disappears. Then, as the brow centre develops further, being
stimulated through use, the afterimage effect decreases
steadily, until they are hardly noticeable.

There will, however, always be a slight afterimage, of sorts,
when you really study an aura. This is unavoidable when you
gaze intently upon an aura, trying to discover it's secrets.
The nature of auric sight, and the involvement of the normal
optical sight process, will always cause a slight afterimage
drag - or slow auric image, as I call it. This happens, even
when auric sight develops into the advanced stages.

Final note on afterimages:

The way the aura builds up is also, totally unlike the way an
after image appears. It builds up, mushrooming bright colours
from bare skin - it does not just fade slowly into sight - it
grows before your eyes. The colours of a living aura do not
begin as a pale shadow, fading into view and then slowly
deepening and growing brighter. They are one consistent
colour, from their first appearance as a thin outline,
highlighting the etheric aura, close to the skin, to their
full size - often more than two or three feet wide. Auras
are also, not just a slight outline of colour around the skin,
but large, vivid bands of colour, with thickness and depth to
them. And, finally, while an aura is building up, if you
shift focus slightly, or blink, it disappears instantly - only
to reappear a few seconds later - an after image does not.


10. Peripheral vision:

Auras are seen with peripheral vision (side vision) and cannot
be seen by directly focussing on them. To see an aura, you
have to look to the side and past your subject. Peripheral
vision is extremely sensitive to movement, much more so than
direct focussed vision. It can detect minute movements that
your central, focussed vision will not see. Peripheral vision
is also sensitive to many other types of subtle energy that
surround us.

Most people have had the experience of catching sight of some
movement - out of the corner of their eye - only to see
nothing when they turn and focus on it.

What happens is:

1. They have seen an aura building up from a coloured
object.

2. They have seen a spirit entity (ghost) manifesting near
them, and have detected it's energy with their more sensitive,
peripheral vision.


11. Dr Kilner:

An English doctor, Dr Walter J. Kilner, in 1911, used colour
as an aid to stimulating auric sight.

Dr Kilner, researched the use of auric sight, as an aid to
diagnosing the health of his patients. He used dicyanin
screens for this. Dicyanin is a dye product of coal tar.
These screens consisted of two pieces of glass with dicyanin
dye sandwiched and sealed between them. He found that by
using these - aura goggles, as he called them - he could
stimulate the ability to see the human aura.

He would stare, for a few minutes, through these screens, at a
bright light. When he looked away, he could see an aura
surrounding his patient. He would then note any changes and
abnormalities in their aura, and compare them with other
observations, taken of healthy people. This allowed him to
detect disease, in the very early stages, before the actual
symptoms of that disease appeared.

Dr. Kilner used several different coloured screens, and
combinations of them. Different coloured screens showed him
different aspects, or layers, of an aura.

He also used strips of brightly illuminated, coloured cloth.
He would stare at one of these strips, after preparing his
eyes, by looking through one of his screens. These strips
caused a phantom strip, of a different colour, to appear in
his gaze. These were like small windows, that could be moved
around by shifting his gaze, highlighting different parts of
his subject's aura. This gave him a different view of their
aura, in that part.

How this works: By looking through these screens, at bright
light, Kilner flooded his eyes with the slow auric colour of
that screen (it's reverse colour). This made his eyes
hypersensitive to that particular auric colour, enabling him
to see that colour in his subject's aura. Different coloured
screens would allow him to see different colours in an aura.
The use of the strips of colour, then enabled him to see the
slow auric colour (reverse colour) of the coloured strip,
minus the original colour of the screen he was using - showing
a small band of an entirely different colour, in the aura.
This small band of colour could be moved around the patient's
aura, by shifting his gaze, like a small window, highlighting
the area it covered.

One interesting thing about Dr Kilner's work is this: After
using these screens for several months or more, he found he
needed to use them less and less. By continually straining to
see auras, with his aura goggles, he stimulated his brow
centre, and mastered the visual technique needed to see the
aura. He eventually gained _full_ auric sight, i.e., he no
longer needed the aura goggles to see auras.

If you would like to get a copy of Dr Kilner's book, you will
find it contains many fine colour plates (paintings) showing
the aura, as seen by himself and his associates. These show
the different effects that can be had using combinations of
different coloured screens and coloured strips.

Kilner's book is listed, in the book I read, as:
Kilner, Walter John. (1965). "The Human Aura."
(New Ed.). New York: University Books. I was
quoted $300.00 US, for the purchase of this book.

Note: I cannot comment on the effectiveness of using genuine
aura goggles, as I have never actually seen a pair. I did,
however, experiment with a pair I made myself, many years ago.
I used two pieces of glass, covered them with a deep blue dye,
and sealed the edges with windscreen sealant. I followed
Kilner's instructions, staring at a bright light through this
screen, etc.

I found this made my eyes _extremely_ sore, and so, after
awhile, discontinued using them. They did work, however, and
showed me some interesting auric effects. I considered it was
not a healthy practise, though, due to the painful burning it
caused in my eyes, and the possibility that it could damage
them. In his book, Kilner gives a warning about this nasty
side effect - burning, sore eyes.


12. The Human Aura:

The human aura is an energy field that surrounds the human
body, and reflects the subtle life energies at work within and
around it. This is something like the magnetic field that
surrounds a simple magnet. Like a magnetic field, the aura is
generated within physical matter - but is also affected by
it's surroundings. The energies flowing through the aura make
us what we are, and are in turn affected by our surrounding
life conditions and life style. The aura reflects the
activity of our organs, health, mental activity and emotional
state. It also shows disease - often long before the onset of
physical symptoms.

The strength and properties of an aura are determined by the
amount of, and the quality of, the energies flowing through
it.


13. The Main Aura:

The main human aura is banded around the body - strata like.
Imagine a person with thick, coloured hoops of light dropped
over them, and you get the general idea. The main colours of
the aura emanate from the primary energy centres (major
chakras - or psychic centres). The individual bands of
colour are difficult to see, unless you have very well-
developed auric sight, and are observing under optimum
conditions.


14. The Etheric Aura:

Close to the skin is the etheric aura. This is often called
"The vitality sheath".
It is seen (with auric sight) as a pale, narrow band, next
to the skin, outlining the body. This is usually no more than
half an inch wide - depending upon the vitality of the
subject. It looks like a dense layer of pale smoke, clinging
to the skin. This is the visible part of the energy body,
in it's contracted state.

During sleep, the etheric aura expands and opens (becoming
larger and finer) in order to absorb and store vitality
(cosmic energy?) within it. After sleep, the energy body
contracts and forms a dense sheath surrounding the body,
close to the skin. This holds within it the stored energies
we all need for living.

In a way, the energy body is like a living storage battery.
During sleep, it automatically sets itself on recharge,
replacing the energies that have been used up.


15. Energy Centres (chakras):

The primary energy centres (chakras) are the non-physical
organs of the energy body. There are at least seven primary
centres, and over three hundred secondary and minor centres,
scattered throughout the human body. All together, they form
a complex network of non-physical energy components. These are
all joined together by interconnecting pathways, or
meridians.

These centres, and their interconnecting pathways (meridians)
were charted by the Chinese, and other Eastern races,
thousands of years ago. Modern versions of these charts are
still widely used today, in many types of alternative medicine
and body work, i.e., acupuncture and reflexology.

Primary energy centres are attached to major internal organs,
glands, nerve ganglia and the spinal cord. Secondary and
minor energy centres are attached to joints, glands and nerve
clusters, throughout the body.

There are active centres - transforming and manipulating
energy - feeding other energy centres and taking care of life
processes - both physical and non-physical. There are
storage centres, communication centres, and centres designed
to absorb energy from other energy sources around us.

Some energy sources: Food, water, oxygen, sunlight, planetary
energy, cosmic energy, love, sex, music. Some of these energy
sources are very subtle, but all are necessary for us to live
a balanced life.

Energy centres are invisible to the naked eye but can be felt,
quite strongly, when they are active (as a pulsing, thrumming
sensation). When energy is consciously drawn from one centre
to another, through the connecting meridians, this can be felt
as: A rushing water sensation, a spreading warmth, a tingling
feeling, or a combination of these. Energy centres (chakras)
can also be seen - with auric and clairvoyant sight - as
whirling vortexes of intensely coloured light).

Every energy centre has important individual functions, in the
energy body. It also works in conjunction with all the other
major and minor centres. Each centre is an individual, but
integral part of the energy body. They all work together, for
the good of the whole energy body; just as all the physical
organs, brain, heart, liver, kidneys, glands, etc, work
together for the good of the whole physical body.

The energy body is extremely complex. It is, in a way,
similar to an electronic device. Energy flows into the
electronic device, and on through connecting pathways
(meridians) that are etched into the circuit board. These
connecting pathways (meridians) carry energy on to all it's
electronic components, (chakras), diodes, resistors,
capacitors, etc. Energy is continually being changed,
enhanced and transformed, by these components; to serve a
multitude of different purposes, required by the device, as a
whole unit, to function properly.

A single energy centre, is very much like a single electronic
component. It takes in energy from the components around it,
and changes the value of it. It enhances this energy, in
various ways, transforming it into something different, that
is needed by the whole unit.

Each energy centre (chakra) takes in the different types of
energy it requires, from other energy centres in the energy
body, and generates a completely different type of energy -
with a different value and colour - according to what is
required.

The strength of each primary energy centre, in any particular
person, depends upon that person's individual makeup; their
nature, health and life style, as well as their spiritual,
moral and psychic development. The energy generated by all
the chakras at once, is reflected into the aura, mixing
together and causing the dominant hue of the aura. This,
dominant hue, is the part of the aura most commonly seen with
auric sight.


The Primary Energy Centres And Their Colours

+--------------+--------+
| Chakra Name | Colour |
+--------------+--------+
| Base | Red |
| Spleen | Orange |
| Solar Plexus | Yellow |
| Heart | Green |
| Throat | Blue |
| Brow | Violet |
| Crown | Gold |
+--------------+--------+
Table 2: Names and Colours of the
primary energy centres (chakras)


Locations of the seven primary energy centres (major chakras)

1. Base: base of spine (between anus and genitals)
2. Spleen: navel area
3. Solar Plexus: base of sternum
4. Heart: centre of chest (over heart)
5. Throat: base of throat, just above where it joins the chest
6. Brow: exact centre of forehead (between the eyes)
7. Crown: whole top of head, above the hairline

Notes:

Each primary is best thought of as - roughly the size of your hand.

Each primary has more than one functioning part (or petal).

The _exact_ location of sensations felt, when a primary centres is
active will vary slightly - depending on what part of that centre
(or petal) is active. E.G. The spleen centre is usually felt
between the tummy button and pubic line. The brow centre is often
felt between the eyebrows, instead of on the actual brow.


16. Basic Hue Classification:

The basic hue of an aura is it's dominant colour. This is
the most visible colour of the multiple energies generated by
all the chakras (mixed together) creating a general, overall
colour. There are, of course, many different colours in any
person's aura, but the basic hue is usually seen first.

Many people suggest that people can be classified, as being a
particular type of person, by the basic hue of their aura.

For example:

Red - sensuality, vitality, raw energy.

Orange - emotion.

Yellow - personality power, mental power, intellect.

Green - spirituality, love, affinity with nature,
natural healer.

Blue - highly spiritual, religious, natural teacher,
healer.

Violet - very highly spiritual, psychic, clairvoyance,
religious, teacher and healer.

Gold - highly advanced spirituality and psychic
abilities - an adept.

I have found this method of classification to be both unfair
to the person being classified, and extremely misleading.
The basic meanings of the individual colours are well known -
as above. I find the human aura to be such a complex and
changeable engine, it just cannot be classified in such a
simple way.

For example: if a person, with a predominantly blue aura, is
experiencing an emotional crisis, their aura will be flooded
with large patches of orange. This is a temporary state only,
and once the crisis is resolved, their aura will revert to
it's natural blue.

There are so many things that can temporarily change the
appearance of an aura - sometimes just for an hour or more.
Devotional worship, for example, generates high minded
feelings and deep spiritual love. An unstable, emotional,
dominant and violent person, who's aura is, say, naturally red
and orange, with streaks of black in it - can generate higher
spiritual colours, during worship. These will temporarily
flood their aura, giving them the appearance (to auric sight)
of being a very spiritual person - but hiding their "true
colours" and hence, their true nature.

Jock:

Blue: Jock was a young man I knew, several years ago. He was
an extremely vital, sensitive man, but was very unstable,
having a lot of problems. Jock was a deep thinker, and we
would often expound upon the meaning of life and the nature of
the universe, together. At times like this I would often see
a lovely spiritual blue, surrounding him.

Red: Now, once Jock had a few drinks in him (alcohol), he
could become extremely aggressive, violent and dangerous - at
the drop of a hat. At times like this, I would see his aura
change dramatically, in moments, to a bright, angry red, with
big orange patches and black streaks in it. Not a trace of
his original blue aura would remain. This, red, orange and
black colour, would stay with him, until he calmed down
completely and sobered up.

Dan:

Dan was an old friend of mine, with a naturally green aura.
When Dan has a problem, his mind goes into overdrive, trying
to find a solution to his problem. His aura then changes to
bright yellow, flooding strongly through his aura. This
reverts to it's original green, very quickly, once he has
found a solution. I have often observed this, while playing
chess with him. Every time he gets into a sticky situation,
his aura floods yellow.

Gardening:

When I have been gardening - having a lot of
physical contact with plants - the aura around my hands and
forearms changes to a lovely green. This green fades away a
few hours later. Close contact with plants seems to have an
effect on the energy body. Maybe this is where the old saying
comes from "Having a green thumb" - for gardening.

These examples demonstrate the changeable nature of the human
aura, in a very general way. An aura is a variable reflection
of the energy activity going on within a person. This
reflection is detected by the brow centre of the observer, and
interpreted, as coloured bands of light, by the sight centre
of their brain. Health, mood, emotion, strong thoughts,
drugs, and other influences, stimulate many different energy
patterns in the primary and secondary energy centres. These
different patterns change the overall quality of the energy
being reflected into the aura. This generates many different
colours - which changes the auras dominant colours.


17. The Human Aura And Colour:

The human aura is very sensitive to colour. It reacts to
the colours of clothing worn and to the colours of it's
surrounding area. Colour affects the subtle flow of energies
within the energy body. This accounts for our strong
natural likes and dislikes, when it comes to choosing the
colours we wear, and those that surround us.

This sensitivity varies, from person to person, depending upon
how sensitive they are and how sensitive their aura is.
Women, generally, have more delicate and sensitive auras than
men. They are, therefore, far more sensitive to the effects
of colour, than men are. Colour can have a strong effect on a
very sensitive person. If they wear a colour that clashes too
badly with their aura, it can make them physically ill.

The effect of colour on the emotions is well known. Wall
colours are carefully chosen, in hospitals and other
institutions, to calm agitated people and put them at ease.
Soft pastel shades of pink and blue are the most frequently
used colours for this, because of their well-known calming
effect.


18. Clothing:

It is impossible to get a clear view of an aura through
clothing. The auric colours given off by any coloured
clothing react with the wearer's aura. This causes
interference that blocks and changes the natural flow of
energies within an aura. For example: a blue shirt will
flood the wearer's natural aura with yellow - changing it's
appearance.

Even neutral coloured clothing will block and dim an aura -
making it dull and difficult to see. If, for example, you
observe the aura of a person wearing a red shirt: their aura
will contain a great deal of green. This shows why bare skin
is best, in order to get a clear view of an aura.

When a coloured material is worn, the band of colour seen
close to the material is the reverse auric colour of that
colour. The aura's real colours will be seen building up from
the outer edge of that colour. The reverse auric colour of
the material, and the true colours of the living aura, affect
each other - changing their natural colours.


19. Disease:

This shows up in the aura in many different ways, sometimes
weeks or months before any physical symptoms appear. An ear
infection, for example, will show up in an aura as a
gradually thickening shadow over the ear and side of the head.
This can be seen several days before any physical symptoms
appear. The shadow will begin as a light-grey smudge,
gradually thickening and darkening. It will eventually change
to a murky-green patch, about the size of your hand. As the
infection worsens it will become shot through with red and
orange streaks, flecks and sparks.

A shadow in the aura is the first sign of _any_ approaching
health problem.
Murky-green, with red and orange streaks, flecks and sparks,
is common to infection.


20. Death:

When a person is dying, their aura undergoes dramatic
changes. I have observed the auras of people, dying of
terminal cancer and other diseases, in the weeks prior to
their death. The first noticeable sign is when the aura fades
and begins to grow weaker and paler. Next (with long term
illnesses) a week or so before physical death, the aura begins
to expand and change. It changes into a beautiful (very pale)
milky-blue, shot through with faint, tiny, silver and white
sparks. These sparks flash and twinkle throughout the aura.
Each spark is only visible for a fraction of a second at a
time.

*Note: The aura of a dying person is a very pale milky-blue.
It is VERY pale and faint and VERY difficult to see. It is
quite common to see a pale-blue aura surrounding a healthy
person, and this does NOT mean they are about to die. The
aura of a dying person is quite different from a normal,
healthy, pale-blue. It is all one colour, much larger than
normal, very milky and very faint.

Closer to the time of death, the aura begins to pulsate,
swelling and shrinking erratically. At times it will fill
the entire room, becoming more of an atmosphere than an aura.
At other times it will be so shrunken as to be almost
invisible to auric sight. It grows paler and finer by the
day, and the tiny silver and white sparks become finer and
increase in frequency.

There is a great deal of activity in all the energy centres,
at this time. The energy body is preparing itself for the
final separation - of the physical body from the non-physical
body (or spirit). There are, at times, faint surges of colour
and faint coloured sparks, like pastel fountains, surging and
falling from the primary centres. They spasm and shudder and
begin generating a much higher and more refined type of
energy. This change heralds the imminent and final
separation, of the spirit from the physical body - what we
call death.

The above is 'not' to be mistaken for the normal pale-blue and
sparks that can be seen in a healthy human aura. The above
observation is not visible to any normal level of auric sight,
but requires some degree of clairvoyance, ie, the ability
to see mind's eye visions.

At some time (variable) before physical death, the aura will
become almost invisible to auric sight. Only a faint, very
pale glow will still be seen, close to the skin. This is
residual etheric matter, clinging to the physical body. There
is, however, still intense activity going on within the energy
body, but this is now far beyond the reach of normal auric
sight.

The aura is now reflecting itself into a much higher level of
reality - another dimension. Clairvoyant and astral sight are
necessary, in order to see any more energy activity, during
the final stages of the death process.

At the actual moment of death, if you are watching closely,
you will see a very faint, pale mist, surge up out of the
body, and quickly vanish. This is the spirit leaving the
physical body. That faint mist is residual etheric matter,
clinging to the spirit body, as it departs.

The actual timing for these changes in the aura to occur,
depend greatly upon the type of illness, the duration of it,
and the strength of the dying person. These govern the speed
of the actual death process. With some conditions, this whole
process can happen very quickly, often a matter of hours.
With other conditions, this may happen over several days,
weeks or even months.


21. Spirit Energy:

There is always a lot of spirit energy and activity,
surrounding a dying person, in the days and weeks prior to
their death. The amount of this spirit activity seems to
depend greatly upon their belief system, as well as their
moral, spiritual and psychic development.

The strongest I have ever felt this - high level spirit energy
and activity - is around dying children. Children seem to be
a lot more aware of their spirituality than adults give them
credit for. We, adults, seem to lose so much of this
awareness - of our spiritual and divine nature - as we grow
older.

I have been in the presence of many dying children. The only
way I can describe this is that, at these special times, I
have been in a holy presence - far beyond my poor
understanding of reality. Children gain a special kind of
wisdom and a high level of spiritual understanding - and
they have no fear of death.

Accidents:

I have never had the opportunity to observe the
aura of someone dying, shortly after an accident, so cannot
comment on this aspect of death.

Premature death:

I have, though, known healthy, vital people,
that have died suddenly, from strokes, heart attacks and brain
aneurisms. I have observed them, in the days and weeks prior
to their premature deaths. I have noted similar changes, as I
might expect to see in a dying person: very milky-pale-blue
expanded auras, silver and white sparks, and lots of spirit
energy and activity around them. These people, though, were
not sick. They were all, healthy, vital people, but there
was something quite different about them - an indefinable
atmosphere. In all cases, they seemed to know, intuitively
(but not consciously) that their time in this world was nearly
up. They all did certain things, tidied up their affairs, or
made things right in some way, in the days and weeks prior to
their death.


22. Why Most People Fail To See Auras:

The most common reason why people fail to see an aura, is
simply the way they go about it. The human aura is _not_ a
good training ground for the beginner.

This is what usually happens: Your volunteer sits and waits,
for a very long time, while you struggle and strain for a
glimpse of their aura. You are trying to relax and
concentrate - and master a tricky visual technique - all at
the same time. You subconsciously worry about what they
are thinking of you. Are they getting bored? Are they
getting impatient? Do they think you foolish, a failure, or
both? This kind of pressure causes subtle tensions to
build up within you, that effectively negate the relaxed
state needed to see the aura. Trying to get results, under
this kind of pressure, as a beginner, is next to impossible.

Here is an email letter from a young man. It shows some
common misunderstandings, when auras are first encountered:

David: "I was sitting in economics class, when I started
to see a faint white glow around the lecturer's head
(not really though, I can't really describe it), it was
surrounding the sides of his head.

And, I could also see a similar one, coming
from one of the students sitting in front of him,
except the student's had a sort of bluish tinge to it.
I kept looking, and a bright yellow glow appeared around
his head. Then I started to see a similar white glow
coming from some of the computer monitors, that sit on
the desks. At first, I was hoping that I could see
auras, but then when I saw it on the monitors,
I had my doubts."

Me: Every living and non living thing has an aura,
including monitors. The reason you saw them when you did
is (let me guess) You were bored, tired, very relaxed,
maybe day dreaming a little. Your eyes were tired,
heavy, and you were having trouble keeping them open?
These are the PERFECT conditions for seeing an aura!

David: "That's exactly how It was! The discussion sort of
went off topic and wasn't all that interesting to me."

"Anyway, I was wondering if you can tell me if
I actually did see their auras. I tried staring at
myself in the mirror to see my aura, when I got home, and
tried to see a friends aura, but it didn't work. I
haven't been able to see an aura, since that day, a
week or two ago. As for some of my questions. I
was wondering what colours non-living objects give
off - is it white? How come the aura was brighter
around their heads?"

Me: You did see the aura! The colours given off by non-
living objects vary with the colour of the object, but
inanimate objects, generally, have a simple pale, creamy
aura surrounding them. The aura you saw, surrounding the
heads of the people around you, was their etheric aura -
which is a pale, creamy colour, usually with a pale blue
tint to it.

The human aura is brighter around the head area, for two
reasons:

1. Clothing blocks the aura.

2. The head area is usually bare (no clothing to block it)
and is where the yellow of the intellect is most active,
which is quite easy to see. This yellow varies in
intensity, according to the degree of mental activity going
on at the time the aura is seen. This, mental activity,
brightens the aura in the head area. Maybe the student you
observed was really on the ball that day?

The main point of showing you this letter is: David began to
see the aura, with no trouble at all, when he was tired and
not trying to see it. He was tired, bored and day dreaming
(a very relaxed state). David was struggling to stay awake
and forcing his eyes to stay open. This _forcing_ his eyes to
stay open, creates a strong mental opening action, at the site
of the brow centre - between the eyes. This stimulates the
brow centre and combined with a relaxed, un-focussed gaze,
causes spontaneous auric sight to occur.

When David tried to see an aura, later at home, he could not -
because he was wide awake and trying, and was no longer in a
relaxed enough state for auric sight to work.

Keep this, above, in mind - when you first attempt to use
auric sight!


23. How To See An Aura: (basic technique)

To see the aura, you have to be able to relax and
concentrate, at the same time, and there is a trick to
focusing your eyes in a special way.

* An aura must be gazed upon - not looked at *

Light:

First, you need plenty of good, soft light to train in, not
dim, but good soft light. It is very important not to have
any strong light shining or reflecting into your eyes. It is
best to have light coming from behind and above you. If you
have, say a window, flooding light into the room, in your
field of view, while trying to see an aura, it will distract
you and make an aura much more difficult to see. A hundred
watt bulb, coming from above and behind you, is fine.

Step 1:

Get a book and cover it in bright, primary blue or red
paper. Stand it upright, on a table, six or seven feet from
you (about 2 metres). Experiment with the distance until you
find what is just right for you, but the minimum distance
should be no less than 4 feet (1.2 meters). Make sure you
have a plain, fairly neutral background. Do not view it
against a brightly coloured wall, or garish wallpaper. If
the wall colour is wrong, hang a sheet of neutral coloured
paper or cloth on the wall, as a backdrop. A bed sheet, or
some sheets of butchers paper, taped to the wall, will do
fine.

Notes:

A.The book is only a prop for the coloured paper, i.e., it
is the aura of the coloured paper you are going to look at
- not the aura of the book. Using a brick, covered in
coloured paper, would give the same result as would hanging
a piece of coloured paper on the wall.

B.The auras of the colours blue and red are, by far, the
brightest and easiest to see.

C.The brightness and tone of a colour's aura varies with
the shade and tone of the colour used, so use bright
primary colours only.

D.You can use any brightly coloured item for this: clothing,
kitchen canisters, toys, or even tape squares of coloured
paper directly to a wall.

Step 2:

Close your eyes, take a few deep breaths and relax. When you
are calm, look at the book. Focus your eyes on nothing,
a little to the side and just past it. This is as if you
were gazing at, but not focusing on, the wall behind it.

The whole idea is to totally relax the focus of your eyes and
view the subject with your peripheral, or side vision. By
side vision, I mean just to the side of your normal focused
area of sight (a couple of inches only) not out of the corner
of your eye.

Gently hold that gaze and relax your eyes. Get used to that
relaxed focus and try not to strain or tense your eyes or
forehead while doing it. Concentrate! You need an
intense, but very relaxed and steady gaze, similar to day-
dreaming.

Blinking:

When you need to blink, do so, or it will cause your eyes
to tense, burn and water. Blink normally and without changing
focus, and DO NOT become preoccupied with it. Blinking
will cause the aura you are viewing to disappear - for a
second or two only - but it will reappear quickly - if you
stay calm and hold a relaxed focus. Learning to hold your
focus, while blinking normally, is an important part of
learning to use auric sight.

Brow centre opening technique:

It is necessary to use some type of brow centre opening
exercise, in order to stimulate your brow centre into a
receptive mode. This allows you to receive the energy
surrounding your subject - as auric sight. It is possible to
see the aura of colour without doing this, but it is very
difficult to see a living aura, without first stimulating and
opening your brow centre.

*** Please pay _very_ close attention to what follows! ***

Remember what it is like to be very, very tired - totally
exhausted? Remember what it feels like when you haven't slept
for days, and can hardly keep your eyes open?

Remember what it feels like when your eyes keep trying to
close on you? Remember what it is like to have to wrestle
with your eyes to keep them open?

This causes a sensation, if you observe yourself closely, much
like you are trying to lift a heavy, shadowy veil, from behind
your eyes. When this happens, the muscles of your eyes are
not responding very well, so the action becomes almost
entirely mental.

Stop for a moment and remember what this feels like.

Wrestling to open tired eyes causes a strong mental opening
action, at the site of the brow centre - thereby stimulating
it.

How this works:

This mental opening action, focuses your bodily awareness at
the site of your brow centre.

When your bodily awareness is focussed at one area of your
body, and you manipulate that area with your mind, you
stimulate your energy body in that area - in a dynamic way.

If this mental opening action is continued for long enough,
and put enough mental effort into it, your brow centre (your
third eye) will begin to open.

If you carry out this mental opening action, when you are
relaxed, and have a subject in your field of view - and you
are not looking directly at your subject - spontaneous auric
sight will occur.

The mental opening action given here is similar, only _much_
stronger and more effective than the normal, visualisation
based, chakra opening techniques; taught by most other
teachers of psychic development and energy work.
Visualisation based energy work, on it's own, is weak and
obtuse and very difficult to learn and use.

* Back to the coloured book:

While you are gazing steadily, with a relaxed focus, at your
blue or red covered book - recreate the same mental action,
as described above. Shift your bodily awareness to the area
between your eyes. Feel this area with your mind -
concentrate all of your sense of feel, your bodily awareness,
on this area.

Tip: Lightly scratch the skin directly between your eyes, and
just above it, in the centre of
your brow, with a fingernail. This will help you to
zero in on that spot with your bodily
awareness.

Shift your bodily awareness to the area between your eyes -
concentrate on being aware of that area!

Mentally lift this whole area - as if you were trying to force
your eyelids to open - but do not allow the muscles in this
area to tense up or respond in any way (this is all mental).

Isolate the mental command that lifts your eyelids. Observe
yourself closely. Imagine your eyes are very heavy, and let
them close on you, and open them a few times. Observe which
muscles you use to do this. Use this same muscle command -
with your mind based bodily awareness, in that area - but
without letting your eyelid muscles obey.

Do this over and over again - lifting, lifting, lifting - as
if you were lifting a heavy shadow from behind your eyes .

Repeat this action, over and over, but do not allow yourself -
or any muscles - to tense up or respond. This is a bit tricky
to, start with, but easily mastered with a little practise.

This mental opening action is _very_ important. It is the
first step in learning how to control your brow centre and,
later, the rest of your energy body - if you decide to
progress to developing full clairvoyance and other psychic
abilities.

In the early stages, it does not matter if you feel you are
lifting too large an area over your brow. Even if you are
lifting right across the whole front of your forehead - it
will still have an opening effect on your brow centre. With
practise, you will be able to narrow the focus of this mental
opening action - to the brow centre area alone.

If you keep up this mental opening action, you will stimulate
your brow centre - forcing it to become active. Your steady,
relaxed focus, on your subject, will tune your brow centre
into the energy given off by it. This energy will be passed
along to the sight centre of your brain. There, it will be
interpreted as a sight picture - a bright band of coloured
light.

Tip. When you have isolated this opening action, and can do
it mentally, you will find one side of the veil behind your
eyes easier to lift than the other - usually the right is
easier. Basically, his feeling is caused by the two
different hemispheres of your brain - one is much easier to
use than the other. If this is a problem, use a clockwise
swirling mental action, over the site of the brow centre, to
stimulate it. By clockwise, I mean clockwise from the
inside. Use the same mental muscle command we talked about
above, as with opening tired eyes, but swirl it, as if you
were mentally stirring that area with a pencil.

It is best to alternate between the main opening
action, and this swirling action, when trying to activate
your brow centre. The main opening action is still needed
to tune your brow centre into an aura.

Note. Remember: all these energy stimulation exercises
depend upon localised bodily awareness, specifically -
localised surface awareness on the skin. You have to FEEL
these mental actions happening, in order to make them effective.

Your first aura:

While you are doing all the above, patiently keep up your
relaxed gaze, just to the side and past your subject. After a
while (anything from a few seconds to several minutes - in the
early stages) you will see a faint shimmering in the air,
around the book. Then, you will see a pale, narrow band of
light build up, close to the edge of the book. This is the
books etheric aura.

*Stay relaxed!

*Don't change your focus - in any way!

*Don't look directly at it!

*Blink if you have to - it will come back quickly!

Soon, a bright-yellow aura (blue book) or bright-green aura
(red book) will start building up, from the pale, etheric band
around the book. If you change your focus, tense up, or look
directly at it - the aura will vanish instantly.

The aura has to be observed with your peripheral, or side
vision.

If something happens, and the aura disappears, don't worry.
Continue observing it, calmly, and patiently and it will
reappear.

In the early stages, the aura will tend to disappear quite a
bit. This is quite normal. Keep at it and this will happen
less and less, as you master the viewing technique.

Step 3:

Once you have completed the first steps, gather several
books and wrap them, each in a different primary colour.

The brighter the colour - the brighter the aura - and the
easier it is to see.

Study these coloured books, one at a time, and write down the
colours you see.

Observe the books, two at a time, and watch how their auric
colours affect each other.

Move them around, mix them, sit them on top of each other,
observe them all in a row.

Step 4:

Get a pot plant, or some fresh flowers, and study their aura.
The aura you will see around them is a living aura. Keep in
mind the effects of the auric colours from the petals and
leaves. The orange hue you will see, around the green parts of
the plants stems and leaves, comes from the auric colour of
green - the same as with observing a green book. Some of the
other colours, with flowers, will come from the colours of the
petals.

You will see a more distinct etheric and a stronger
shimmering, optical effect around the plant.

Living auras are more subtle and, thus, a little harder to
see, than a simple colour's aura. With practise, though, the
auras of plants will become much easier to see.

Step 5:

Observe the aura of a tree. Pick a good sized tree that you
can view, highlighted against the sky. It is best to observe
it with the sun behind you, early in the morning or late in
the day. If
the sun, or any strong reflection, is in your eyes, it will
make this very difficult to do.

The shimmering around the tree will be much more imposing and
intense, than with a small plant. The colour of a tree's aura
will also be influenced, not only by the colours of the leaves
and bark, but also by the colour of the sky itself. On a
sunny day, a tree's aura will appear to be a shade of blue.
On a cloudy day, it will appear to be creamy-grey.

Viewing distance: Experiment with this, as it depends upon
the size of the tree. Make sure you can see the entire top
of the tree in your field of view. You need to be, approximately,
three times the height of the tree away from it, or more.

A tree's aura can be huge, depending upon the size of the tree
and how strong it is. At the top of the tree's aura you can
sometimes see a fountaining effect, as if it's aura were
slowly spraying up out of it. I am not sure what causes this,
and I have not seen this with every tree I have observed.
Some people say it is the tree's spirit, or a nature spirit
living inside the tree, that causes it. Some trees do seem
to have a kind of consciousness within them, so this may be
true.

Step 6:

For the next step, use an animal, any animal: a dog,
cat, kangaroo, camel, lion, tiger, elephant, etc, if you have
access to one. Try and observe them when they are resting.
Animal auras are not as colourful as human auras, but they
are still very good practise.
Keep in mind, that the colour of the animals coat will affect
the colour of it's aura.

Disease can be detected in the aura of an animal, the same as
with a human subject. This makes observing them very good
practise, for diagnosing the early signs of disease in an
aura.


Step 7:

Observe your own aura: This can be done outside, with the Sun
behind you, or inside, against a neutral background. Hold
your arm out and study your hand and forearm. You can also
lay down and observe the aura of your feet and legs.

Step 8:

A human subject:

In the beginning, it is best to observe the human aura in two
stages:

Stage 1:

Have your subject wear a colourful shirt, dress or jumper -
anything will do. Use any colour but blue - do not use blue -
as this will flood and hide the yellow of the intellect, the
colour most commonly seen around the head area.

Make sure their upper neck area is bare. Observe their
shoulder area, using the same setting and technique, as with
the original book. You will see the colour of the shirt
easily, building up around their shoulder.

*Make sure you continue to do the mental opening action - with
all these exercises.

When the shirt's aura is clear around their shoulder area,
shift your gaze slightly higher - so you are gazing past their
bare neck area. Keep the shirt's aura in view - don't change
what you are doing - and see what other colours you can pick
up around their bare neck.

This exercise makes sure your eyes and brow centre are working
together, as with the book.

Do not focus directly on your subject's neck! All auras must
be gazed at and observed with peripheral vision.

You should begin to see a slightly different colour, building
up near the top of their shirts auric colour - around their
bare neck and head.

Now, shift your gaze slightly higher, so your line of sight is
level with their head area. Keep your gaze relaxed and don't
change anything. You should see some yellow around this
area.

When you see a little, ask your subject to do some mental
arithmetic, or think hard about something. See if their aura
brightens when they do this.

Stage 2:

Get your volunteer to remove some of their upper clothing.
Study a bare skin area, against a neutral background - the
same as with the book. The upper arm and shoulder area is
the best place to start your observation.

With bare skin, the first thing you will see is a slight
shimmering effect, a fuzziness in the air near the skin.
Next, you will see the etheric aura build up from their skin.
This looks like creamy, pale-blue smoke, clinging to their
skin. This is quite distinct and normally about half an inch
deep.

Hold your focus and the aura's main colours will begin to
build up, and out, from the etheric aura. It will first
appear as a narrow band of colour, highlighting the edge of
the etheric aura. This will appear and disappear, grow and
shrink, quite a bit. This part is very frustrating, but keep
at it and it will get easier. The colour will slowly grow
larger and become thicker and more well defined. Hold your
focus and it will grow to several inches or more thick. The
main aura may vanish and reappear many times, as I said, while
it is building up. This is caused by blinking and minute
shifts in your focus, and cannot be helped.
Tip:

The brightness of a person's aura has a lot to do with their
mood and how they feel. If they feel happy and full of
life, their aura will be much stronger, larger and
brighter. Try playing their favourite music, or crack a few
jokes and have a good laugh. This will help to energise their
aura and make it easier for you to see it.


24. Another letter:

Here is another email letter. It describes a very unusual
first sighting of an aura:

Rick: "I want to relate to you an event yesterday that was
kind of unusual.

I was sitting in church, just staring at the choir,
when I saw an incredible white light, sort of like a
shadow, and three of the choir members had this white
light shooting up to the ceiling and turning blue and
green. It was like looking at a bright, multicoloured X
ray.

It was an awesome experience. I had a chill run down my
spine and I thought "WOW!" and blinked - and it was gone.

Question: What the heck was that -- I assume it was
an aura?"

Me: You were, by the sound of it, in a very relaxed
state, and carried away, uplifted, by the spiritual
singing of the choir. This must have stimulated your
energy body and brow centre, causing spontaneous auric
sight, making it possible for you to see the choir's
aura, while it was flaring.

What you have seen is the human aura flaring, in an
excited state. This is a rare and truly beautiful sight.
I have only ever seen this once myself.

The flaring aura's of the choir would have been caused
by a charged, devotional atmosphere in the church, and
the hymn the choir were singing at the time. This must
have stirred deep spiritual feelings and uplifted them.
The white, changing to blue and green, rising auras you
saw, came from their throat and heart chakras. These
are higher spiritual colours and are affected by emotions
of spirituality and love.


25. Practise and time:

It takes practise to see the human aura, so don't be
disappointed if you fail, or see very little the first few
times you try. If you managed to see the aura of the original
blue book, you CAN learn to see the human aura.

Using this training method stimulates the brow centre, which
is responsible for all types of non-physical sight. With
use, it will grow in strength and seeing auras will become
progressively easier to do. It may take weeks, before you get
your first, proper glimpse of the human aura, if you have
poor natural ability for this - but with practise, as I did,
you WILL eventually be able to see it.

I suggest that you practise the mental opening and stimulation
exercises, and observe auras for at least a few minutes every
day. This will stimulate your brow centres development.


26. Spontaneous auric sight:

You will find there will be days when auras are very
difficult to see. You will also find there are days when
auras just appear around people and objects, without any
conscious effort on your part to see them. You will find
this happening at odd times, when your brow centre is, for
some reason, very active. You may be sitting down talking to
someone, and all of a sudden you will see their aura, or
the aura of their clothing, with no effort at all.

Episodes of strong, spontaneous auric sight, will happen
frequently, once you begin stimulating and developing your
brow centre, through the practise of observing auras.

A letter showing this:

Eric: "I have been practising your method daily, for over
a month now, but have not succeeded in seeing much of a
human aura, until now. I can usually see the auras of
colours and plants, and can see my own aura fine. Up
until now, I have only been able to see the auras of
colour, the etheric and some patches of distortion around
people, when I try and see their auras.

Yesterday, I was working on my computer, and my girlfriend
came into my room. She had just showered and was getting
dressed. I just looked at her and "BOOM!!!" there was this
huge aura all around her. It was really beautiful and solid
looking. It was mostly green around her body with a yellow
glow around her head. Oh - there were some red and orange
patches around her hips and stomach.

I was not trying to see her aura. I was trying to finish
my work and was very tired, what with exams coming up the next
week. It just appeared around her like magic.

What happened, how could I see it without trying to? I tried
the next day, but couldn't see it again. What happened?"

Me: Bravo Eric! You are doing extremely well. What you saw
was the full living aura of your girlfriend. I take it she was
naked when you saw it? This would have helped you to get a
better view of it. This is spontaneous auric sight, caused by
all the practise you have been doing - seeing auras. This
will happen more frequently, from now on. It will just happen,
from time to time, when your brow centre is very active, for
some reason or other. This is a sign your brow centre is
responding well to the exercises I gave you, and developing
nicely. Your dreams should also increase in frequency and become
much more vivid, with more lucid dreams etc. This is another
sign of your brow centre developing.

This, above, is a good example of spontaneous auric sight. Eric was
tired and relaxed, when it first happened - the perfect state for
seeing auras. He had been practising auric sight exercises for several
weeks. This had stimulated his brow centre, causing bouts of spontaneous
auric sight to happen.

Eric was lucky enough to have a naked subject for his first
view of an aura, showing him the full human aura, with no
interference from clothing etc. With Eric, this sort of thing
happened every few weeks, for about a year. It then
increased in frequency, happening about once a week, on
average. Sometimes this only showed him a patch of colour on
someone, for a few seconds - at other times, he sees a full
aura.

After Eric had this first bout of spontaneous auric sight, he
found it much easier to see the human aura, when he tried. He
still cannot see the whole aura - when he wants to - unless it
happens spontaneously. He can now, though, see bands and
patches of colours in peoples auras, that he could not see
before.


27. Close:

I have taught many people to see the aura using this, above,
method. The fast results, in the early stages, help to build
confidence and keep interest high. This ensures enough work
and effort is put in to get the desired results - seeing the
human aura.

Once you have seen your first aura, you have taken your first
step into a much larger, and more colourful world. If you
practise and graduate to seeing, even a glimpse, of the
illusive human aura, then you are making very good progress
indeed, and your brow centre is showing it's development -
through your increased ability. The next step from this is to
develop clairvoyance. This is the ability to see the more
subtle energies in the world around you. These energies
contain within them: karmic influences, life conditions, the
results of past actions, and future events and probabilities -
plus lots of other exciting and interesting stuff. This
energy is seen, clairvoyantly, as metaphoric imagery, full of
richly symbolic meaning. This is seen as anything from a
simple still picture, to a full coloured, motion picture
quality, mind's eye vision.


------------ Robert Bruce -----------------
<http://www.tower.net.au/~rsb/>
<http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/9959/>
--------------------------------------------------------------


sword

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a sto ako je vidis ali bez boje, hmm, jel to znaci da vidis nesto drugo a ne
auru?
ne, ozbiljno pitam..


Lord Corwin

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>a sto ako je vidis ali bez boje, hmm, jel to znaci da vidis nesto drugo a
>ne auru?

Ne, IMHO. U biti auru "osjecas", a ne gledas ocima, a svrha opisanog
treninga je premapiranje tako dobivenih senzacija u vizualne efekte, dakle
oblik koji nas mozak zna procesirati, a onda i iskomunicirati drugim ljudima
koji su trenirani na isti nacin. U svim pocetnim vjezbama (aura lisca, pa
prstiju ruku, pa drveca itd.) obicno prvo ne vidis boje nego nesto
neodredjeno, kao providno lelujanje itd.

TutorialMasterAccount

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> Ne, IMHO. U biti auru "osjecas", a ne gledas ocima, a svrha opisanog
> treninga je premapiranje tako dobivenih senzacija u vizualne efekte, dakle

Auru vidis. Osjecaj je izgovor za blefere koji nista ne vide. Trece oko ima
istu boju kao i oko, ima strukturu koja je sposobna primati fotonsko
zracenje, i nije bez vraga nazvano trece oko. Osjecaj je nesto sasim deseto.
Aura se zaista vidi, bas kao i opticko vidjenje. Ne trebas nista
premapirati.


Viscount Vorian

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Culo vida = osjetilo vida. Dakle i vidom dobivamo osjete, odnosno osjecamo,
sto se uostalom i poklapa i s engleskim terminom "sense" za cula koji se
koristi u izvorniku.
Mladi gospon, preporucam da prije ulaska u rasprave ove vrste ipak prethodno
konsolidirate temelje, prije svega da budete nacistu s jezikom koji
koristite u komunikaciji i znacenjima rijeci koje koristite. Prakticno
iskustvo s temom o kojoj se raspravlja takodjer je plus, i vjerojatno vas
nedostatak istog motivira na izjave poput gornje.


pixa

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>a sto ako je vidis ali bez boje, hmm, jel to znaci da vidis nesto drugo a
>ne auru?
> ne, ozbiljno pitam..


prana... pranicno iliti etericno tijelo!!

i jucer sam ga vidjela.. juupiii :D


pixa

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"Lord Corwin"

>
> Ne, IMHO. U biti auru "osjecas", a ne gledas ocima, a svrha opisanog
> treninga je premapiranje tako dobivenih senzacija u vizualne efekte, dakle
> oblik koji nas mozak zna procesirati, a onda i iskomunicirati drugim
> ljudima koji su trenirani na isti nacin. U svim pocetnim vjezbama (aura
> lisca, pa prstiju ruku, pa drveca itd.) obicno prvo ne vidis boje nego
> nesto neodredjeno, kao providno lelujanje itd.


vidis boje razlicite na razlicitim djelovima tjela.. cak ako se mentalno
stavljas u drugacija stanja..mjenjaju se na ocigled ;)


MG film

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> vidis boje razlicite na razlicitim djelovima tjela.. cak ako se mentalno
> stavljas u drugacija stanja..mjenjaju se na ocigled ;)
On to ne vidi.


MG film

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> prana... pranicno iliti etericno tijelo!!
>
> i jucer sam ga vidjela.. juupiii :D
A ja sam vidio jucer Sljeme sa svog balkona i zalazak sunca. Jupiiii! E
cudna mi cuda.
Otvori oci.


Alibi (A.K.A. Robi 1 Kenobi)

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i mene je to interesiralo jer ja cesto znam vidjet auru oko glava ljudi (jos
dok sam sjedio u skolskoj klupi u srednjoj), ali prije sam mislio da
zabrijavam, izgleda da sam fakat vidio aure...
jucer sam procitao ovaj tekst i vidio sam auru majice koju sam objesio na
ormar.. majica je bila crvena a aura prekrasne blago-zelene boje... najs
:)))


sw...@mail.inet.hr

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NE vidim boje, vidim/osjecam samo polje oko ljudi, bica,
stvari...nevidljivo polje...debljine od nekoliko milimetara (daklem
feeling je da je tamo) do po 15-20cm otprilike...nesto kao uvecani
ghosting ali oko cijeline....proziran...hmmm
A nist, prouciti malo bolje tu knjigu pa vidjeti hoce li mi sto
pomoci....u bojama mislim

sw...@mail.inet.hr

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Sto? Oprala ti mama napokon prozore?

sw...@mail.inet.hr

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A ti i aure vidis? woooooow, sigurno ti je jako tesko zivjeti tako
pametnome i sveznajucem...
U mom kraju postoji ime za takve poput tebe...serator.

oracle aka pix

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<sw...@mail.inet.hr>

aloooo :) napisala sam ti sta je to...
ako ga vidis... mozes ga micati... ako ga mices djelujes na fizicko tjelo... (recimo lijecenje bolesti i sl.)... probaj...


MG film

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> Culo vida = osjetilo vida.

Jest.

>Dakle i vidom dobivamo osjete, odnosno osjecamo, sto se uostalom i poklapa
>i s engleskim terminom "sense" za cula koji se koristi u izvorniku.

Slazem se. Vid je osjet. Ali ovdje se zeli reci da se aura ne vidi nego
osjeca nekako drugacije, sto moze biti tocno u tom smislu da se osjeca, ali
nije tocno da se ne vidi.


> Mladi gospon, preporucam da prije ulaska u rasprave ove vrste ipak
> prethodno konsolidirate temelje, prije svega da budete nacistu s jezikom
> koji

Mislim da jezikom ovdje ne baratate vi, dragi gospodine.


MG film

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>A ti i aure vidis? woooooow, sigurno ti je jako tesko zivjeti tako
> pametnome i sveznajucem...

Nije uopce. Puno je teze budalama oko mene. Ubija ih Salieri kompleks.


MG film

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> Sto? Oprala ti mama napokon prozore?
>
Na balkonu ne postoje prozori. Valjda je to zato i balkon. B.A.L.K.O.N. ono
sto nisu sise. Znas.


MG film

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> aloooo :) napisala sam ti sta je to...
> ako ga vidis... mozes ga micati... ako ga mices djelujes na fizicko
> tjelo... (recimo lijecenje bolesti i sl.)... probaj...
Alooo, Pixa! On to ne vidi i nikad nece moci vidjeti.


MG film

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> jucer sam procitao ovaj tekst i vidio sam auru majice koju sam objesio na
> ormar.. majica je bila crvena a aura prekrasne blago-zelene boje... najs
> :)))
>
Ne bih te htio razocarati, ali ono sto si vidio nije bila aura. To
potvrdjuje cinjenica sto si vidio komplementarnu boju.
Kao kada gledas zuto sunce, zatvoris oci pa vidis ljubicasti krug.
To ti je zato sto u stanicama mreznice koje su zaduzene za prepoznavanje
boja (cunjici) djeluje kemija koja na osnovu odredjenog spektra frekvencija
generira podrazaje. Gledanjem dugo u neku boju, ta se kemikalija privremeno
potrosi za tu boju i oko postaje slabije osjetljivo na nju. Preostale
kemikalije kasnije generiraju komplementarnu boju.
Inace blago zelena boja najvjerojatnije je bila plavo zelenkasta, tocnije
cyan (pitaj Pixiu, ona poznaje CMY(K) i RGB skale).


MG film

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>> jucer sam procitao ovaj tekst i vidio sam auru majice koju sam objesio na
>> ormar.. majica je bila crvena a aura prekrasne blago-zelene boje... najs
>> :)))

Inace, ovdje na grupi ce mnogi reci vrlo proste rijeci na moj racun, i kako
ja lupam a nista ne kazem.
Evo ti jedne istine iz prakse (i iskustva cak) kako se gleda aura. Kao i sve
stvari i ta je jednostavna.
Pogledaj ono sto zelis gledati. Zatvori oci. Cekaj da nestane slika koju
generira neravnoteza kemije u stapicima i cunjicima, tj. mreznici.
I kada se sve opticke slike ugase, koncentriraj se na tamu. Vidjet ces je.
Trece oko je oko. Glandula pinealis i hipofiza su organi vida. I oni rade.
Kao i oko. Povezani su sa optickim centrom. Aura se VIDI, a ne osjeca na
neki drugi nacin.


Vjera Lopina

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Ja sam vec na samrti, s jednom i pol nogom u grobu. ;)

--
Vjera
Vjera....@ffzg.hr


sword

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nekada se doista pitam koje su razine tvoje gluposti, mislim da bi cak i
Bore Leeju trebao padobran da se spusti na tvoj nivo...

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sword

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"MG film" <mgfi...@net.hr> wrote in message
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ma da Elvise, u zadenj si vrijeme napredovao vidim, em si naucio astralnu
projekciju, tu sada i aure vidis, hmm, da mozda i ne levitiras, imas doma
spremljene planove za koristenje energije nulte tocke, hmm, sve mi se cini
da vidis i bijele miseve od tih silnih posjeta mami i europi....sa svojim
imaginarnim prijateljima


sword

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"oracle aka pix" <h...@hihi.ho> wrote in message
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ma vidio sam ali kada sam vec postao poruku, jebga :-( odogvaram kako citam
:-((
ovo mi bas i nije jasno s lijecenjem ali pretpostavljam da si mislila da
krpam odn.preslagujem necije pranicno tijelo?


sword

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"MG film" <mgfi...@net.hr> wrote in message
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bitno da ti sve vidis


sword

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"MG film" <mgfi...@net.hr> wrote in message
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>> Sto? Oprala ti mama napokon prozore?
>>
> Na balkonu ne postoje prozori. Valjda je to zato i balkon. B.A.L.K.O.N.
> ono sto nisu sise. Znas.
ma da? jebate sto sve necu od tebe nauciti....wooooow

sword

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"Alibi (A.K.A. Robi 1 Kenobi)" <_makniovo_rob...@email.t-com.hr>
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>
> sword wrote:
>> a sto ako je vidis ali bez boje, hmm, jel to znaci da vidis nesto drugo a
> ne
>> auru?
>> ne, ozbiljno pitam..

>
> i mene je to interesiralo jer ja cesto znam vidjet auru oko glava ljudi
> (jos
> dok sam sjedio u skolskoj klupi u srednjoj), ali prije sam mislio da
> zabrijavam, izgleda da sam fakat vidio aure...

hmm, da nisi zaboravio reci da si ih vidjao samo pod satima vjeronauka i
nedjeljom u crkvi ;-)


sword

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"MG film" <mgfi...@net.hr> wrote in message
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> >A ti i aure vidis? woooooow, sigurno ti je jako tesko zivjeti tako
>> pametnome i sveznajucem...
>
> Nije uopce. Puno je teze budalama oko mene. Ubija ih Salieri kompleks.
>
da? njih ubija a ti umires, tcccc


sword

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"pixa" <pi...@work.on> wrote in message news:dr7mb0$dlf$1...@sunce.iskon.hr...
jesi? odlicna vijest :-) jel se promijenilo ili je bilo isto kao i prije,
mislim, jesi vidjela svoje ili kod nekoga drugoga?


MG film

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> da? njih ubija a ti umires, tcccc
Ti si nesto mnogo aktivan po pitanju mene nocas. Sva sreca sto ne vjerujem u
uroke i magijski utjecaj kada netko dr... na mene.


MG film

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> ma da? jebate sto sve necu od tebe nauciti....wooooow
>
A cuj. Uci se dok si ziv.


MG film

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> nekada se doista pitam koje su razine tvoje gluposti, mislim da bi cak i
> Bore Leeju trebao padobran da se spusti na tvoj nivo...

Mozda je problem u tome sto se tebi cini glupim sve ono sto je van tvog
poimanja. Radije umjesto Bora Lee-ja uzmi kakvu knjigu u ruke.


MG film

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> Ja sam vec na samrti, s jednom i pol nogom u grobu. ;)
>
Tebe ni ne muci Salieri. Tvoj problem je vise zaljubljenost. Ali rekoh ti
prije: tko cijeni i voli felixa, ja toga ne cijenim i ne volim.


MG film

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> ma da Elvise, u zadenj si vrijeme napredovao vidim, em si naucio astralnu
> projekciju, tu sada i aure vidis, hmm, da mozda i ne levitiras, imas doma

Ne levitiram. Upravo pisem tekst o levitaciji. Za Misaka.


MG film

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> mislim, jesi vidjela svoje ili kod nekoga drugoga?
Naj biti ljubomoran. Kada si imao priliku kod Pixe, vozikao si ju i nisi
ucinio nista. Naravno da ce sad cura gledati auru kod nekoga drugoga.


oracle aka pix

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ne vidi on dalje od svog qurca :))))

laka meta


Alibi (A.K.A. Robi 1 Kenobi)

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LOL
ma mozda sam si ja to sve izbrijo... vjerojatno... a ko da ima veze...
svaka budala ima svoje veselje :))))


MG film

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> ne vidi on dalje od svog qurca :))))
>
> laka meta
I ti bi htjela tako vidjeti, ali obecajem ti da neces. Rekoh, ne upucavaj mi
se. Imas tu kandidata koliko volis.


Shoder u ramenu!

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Lord Corwin wrote:
> "sword" <sw...@mail.inet.hr> wrote in message
> news:dr6232$p90$1...@bagan.srce.hr...

>
>>a sto ako je vidis ali bez boje, hmm, jel to znaci da vidis nesto drugo a
>>ne auru?
>
>
> Ne, IMHO. U biti auru "osjecas", a ne gledas ocima, a svrha opisanog
> treninga je premapiranje tako dobivenih senzacija u vizualne efekte, dakle
> oblik koji nas mozak zna procesirati, a onda i iskomunicirati drugim ljudima
> koji su trenirani na isti nacin. U svim pocetnim vjezbama (aura lisca, pa
> prstiju ruku, pa drveca itd.) obicno prvo ne vidis boje nego nesto
> neodredjeno, kao providno lelujanje itd.

Ima ona fora da se krajickom oka kupe malo drugacije frekvencije
svjetla nego ako se drito gleda u izvoriste istih. Koliko je povezana s
ovime, ne znam :)
No, ja bih se zadrzao na percipiranju. Ako se netko forsira vidjeti
nesto, vidjet ce to, bez obzira da li to nesto uistinu jest. Cak i ovo
premapiranje zvuci kao silovanje mozga da ti se u percipirane aure
prikazu kroz dio mozga nadlezan za vid ... sto je zapravo totalno
nepotrebno... IMNSHO

Quazaar

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> vidis boje razlicite na razlicitim djelovima tjela.. cak ako se mentalno
> stavljas u drugacija stanja..mjenjaju se na ocigled ;)

Vecina ljudi nisu prirodni talenti i u pocetku vjezbanja ne "vide" nista,
tek vjezbanjem probude relevantno osjetilo i pocnu "osjecati" nesto, a nakon
toga "nauce" oci da vide (tj. percipiraju ) te osjete kao odredjene boje.
IMHO.


Lord Corwin

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"Shoder u ramenu!" <nigge...@flyVELIKA.srk.ferSLOVA.hr> wrote

> Ima ona fora da se krajickom oka kupe malo drugacije frekvencije svjetla
> nego ako se drito gleda u izvoriste istih. Koliko je povezana s ovime, ne
> znam :)

Vjerojatno dosta. Periferni vid omogucava skupljanje dodatnih informacija, a
istovremeno trazi manje energije za njihovo procesiranje. Opet, pitanje je
koliko ima smisla raspravljati kako to tehnicki funkcionira. Kao sto
proucavanjem funkcioniranja misica i kostura neces nauciti hodati niti mozes
iskusiti kretanje, tako je i ovdje naglasak na vlastitom vjezbanju i
iskustvu. Poznavanje nacina zasto i kako nesto funkcionira IMHO pomaze samo
u onom prvom dijelu, kada se odlucuje da li ima smisla nesto probati ili ne,
odnosno skuplja motivacija.

> No, ja bih se zadrzao na percipiranju. Ako se netko forsira vidjeti nesto,
> vidjet ce to, bez obzira da li to nesto uistinu jest.

Slazem se.

> Cak i ovo premapiranje zvuci kao silovanje mozga da ti se u percipirane
> aure prikazu kroz dio mozga nadlezan za vid ...

Mozda. Postoji prica o Helen Keller, koja je bila slijepa, nijema i gluha,
ali je uzivala u muzici, koristeci culo dodira ... nekako ... i bila je u
stanju komunicirati. Dakle "premapiranja" su moguca. Vid je najslozeniji
mehanizam za prikupljanje i obradu informacija koji imamo, i normalno je da
ga se iskoristi kada je to moguce. Ali ni u kom slucaju nije jedina
mogucnost. Postoje reporti o ljudima koji ljudsku auru "osjecaju" kao zvucne
vibracije, toplinske efekte ili mirise.

> sto je zapravo totalno nepotrebno... IMNSHO

Volio bih cuti malo vise detalja o tome zasto mislis da je to nepotrebno.
Kako ti zamisljas (ili znas ?) da to funkcionira ?


Svizac

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sword wrote:
> a sto ako je vidis ali bez boje, hmm, jel to znaci da vidis nesto drugo a ne
> auru?
> ne, ozbiljno pitam..

gle ... ja vidim samo ljudske aure ... al ih vidim samo indigo ... tj
ljubicasto ...

ponekad se prelijevaju od bijele do crvene ... al nikad nisu staticne
boje ... s time da je sve jako blijedo ...

Svizac

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TutorialMasterAccount wrote:
>>Ne, IMHO. U biti auru "osjecas", a ne gledas ocima, a svrha opisanog
>>treninga je premapiranje tako dobivenih senzacija u vizualne efekte, dakle
>
>
> Auru vidis. Osjecaj je izgovor za blefere koji nista ne vide. Trece oko ima
> istu boju kao i oko, ima strukturu koja je sposobna primati fotonsko
> zracenje, i nije bez vraga nazvano trece oko. Osjecaj je nesto sasim deseto.
> Aura se zaista vidi, bas kao i opticko vidjenje. Ne trebas nista
> premapirati.

da ... to sam se ja sokirao prvi put kad sam probao ... mislio sam da ce
bit neki osjecaj kad ono paf! bas vidis :)

Svizac

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sw...@mail.inet.hr wrote:
> NE vidim boje, vidim/osjecam samo polje oko ljudi, bica,
> stvari...nevidljivo polje...debljine od nekoliko milimetara (daklem
> feeling je da je tamo) do po 15-20cm otprilike...nesto kao uvecani
> ghosting ali oko cijeline....proziran...hmmm
> A nist, prouciti malo bolje tu knjigu pa vidjeti hoce li mi sto
> pomoci....u bojama mislim

je ... tako je u pocetku :)

nije da se kasnije puno promijeni, samo naucis razlikovat one "valove" :)

meni je to u pocetku izgledalo ko malo svijetlije polje oko neke osobe
15-20 cm ... s time da kasni nekoliko sekundi ako se osoba mice ...

a kad je netko dozivljavao neke snazne osjecaje vidio sam kao valove u
toj svjetlini ...

Svizac

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MG film wrote:
> I ti bi htjela tako vidjeti, ali obecajem ti da neces. Rekoh, ne upucavaj mi
> se. Imas tu kandidata koliko volis.

koji je tebi kurac?

Svizac

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Lord Corwin wrote:
>>vidis boje razlicite na razlicitim djelovima tjela.. cak ako se mentalno
>>stavljas u drugacija stanja..mjenjaju se na ocigled ;)
>
> Vecina ljudi nisu prirodni talenti i u pocetku vjezbanja ne "vide" nista,
> tek vjezbanjem probude relevantno osjetilo i pocnu "osjecati" nesto, a nakon
> toga "nauce" oci da vide (tj. percipiraju ) te osjete kao odredjene boje.
> IMHO.

ja tek sad kuzim da sam ja oduvijek vidio aure ... cak i boje aura ...
samo nisam znao to prepoznat ...

Svizac

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MG film wrote:
>>>jucer sam procitao ovaj tekst i vidio sam auru majice koju sam objesio na
>>>ormar.. majica je bila crvena a aura prekrasne blago-zelene boje... najs
>>>:)))
>
>
> Inace, ovdje na grupi ce mnogi reci vrlo proste rijeci na moj racun, i kako
> ja lupam a nista ne kazem.
> Evo ti jedne istine iz prakse (i iskustva cak) kako se gleda aura. Kao i sve
> stvari i ta je jednostavna.
> Pogledaj ono sto zelis gledati. Zatvori oci. Cekaj da nestane slika koju
> generira neravnoteza kemije u stapicima i cunjicima, tj. mreznici.
> I kada se sve opticke slike ugase, koncentriraj se na tamu. Vidjet ces je.
> Trece oko je oko. Glandula pinealis i hipofiza su organi vida. I oni rade.
> Kao i oko. Povezani su sa optickim centrom. Aura se VIDI, a ne osjeca na
> neki drugi nacin.

eee to :)

to je mene uvjerilo da postoje aure :)

kad zatvorim oci i kad sve izblijedi pocnu cudni valovi
ljubicasto-indigo do bijele boje :)

svakakve stvari isplivaju iz toga :)

Vjera Lopina

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MG film wrote:

> Vjera Lopina wrote:
> > Ja sam vec na samrti, s jednom i pol nogom u grobu. ;)
> >
> Tebe ni ne muci Salieri. Tvoj problem je vise zaljubljenost.

U koga to? Ne valjda u tebe?

> Ali rekoh ti
> prije: tko cijeni i voli felixa, ja toga ne cijenim i ne volim.

Kad naucis cijeniti i voljeti ljude, mozda i bude nesto od tebe. Ako ne
u ovom zivotu...

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Viscount Vorian

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> MG film wrote:

>> Ali rekoh ti
>> prije: tko cijeni i voli felixa, ja toga ne cijenim i ne volim.
>
> Kad naucis cijeniti i voljeti ljude, mozda i bude nesto od tebe. Ako ne
> u ovom zivotu...

... onda ce prozivjeti slijedeci kao pas i uz dobra gospodara mozda uspije
nauciti cijeniti i voljeti ljude! Tako kazu knjige :)


Shoder u ramenu!

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Lord Corwin wrote:
> "Shoder u ramenu!" <nigge...@flyVELIKA.srk.ferSLOVA.hr> wrote
>
>
>>Ima ona fora da se krajickom oka kupe malo drugacije frekvencije svjetla
>>nego ako se drito gleda u izvoriste istih. Koliko je povezana s ovime, ne
>>znam :)
>
>
> Vjerojatno dosta. Periferni vid omogucava skupljanje dodatnih informacija, a
> istovremeno trazi manje energije za njihovo procesiranje. Opet, pitanje je
> koliko ima smisla raspravljati kako to tehnicki funkcionira. Kao sto
> proucavanjem funkcioniranja misica i kostura neces nauciti hodati niti mozes
> iskusiti kretanje, tako je i ovdje naglasak na vlastitom vjezbanju i
> iskustvu. Poznavanje nacina zasto i kako nesto funkcionira IMHO pomaze samo
> u onom prvom dijelu, kada se odlucuje da li ima smisla nesto probati ili ne,
> odnosno skuplja motivacija.

U ovom specificnom slucaju mislim da samo osjetilo vida nema nista s
time. Radi se samo o preusmjeravanju "podataka" dobivenih drugim
osjetilom tako da ih se interpretira kao nesto sto je vidjeno, ocima.

>>Cak i ovo premapiranje zvuci kao silovanje mozga da ti se u percipirane
>>aure prikazu kroz dio mozga nadlezan za vid ...
>
> Mozda. Postoji prica o Helen Keller, koja je bila slijepa, nijema i gluha,
> ali je uzivala u muzici, koristeci culo dodira ... nekako ... i bila je u
> stanju komunicirati. Dakle "premapiranja" su moguca. Vid je najslozeniji
> mehanizam za prikupljanje i obradu informacija koji imamo, i normalno je da
> ga se iskoristi kada je to moguce. Ali ni u kom slucaju nije jedina
> mogucnost. Postoje reporti o ljudima koji ljudsku auru "osjecaju" kao zvucne
> vibracije, toplinske efekte ili mirise.

Receno je da ljudi koji su slijepi imaju puno razvijenija ostala
osjetila. Zasto? Zato jer im slijepoca, nekoristenje jednog veceg djela
mozga, odnosno promet signala prema istome, omogucuje da vise signala
ide u druge djelove mozga, signala koji bi inace bili ignorirani zbog
toga jer nam je primarno osjetilo vid. Vise signala znaci vise veza
medju neuronima, vise znanja.
Analogno, vido sam primjer djece od npr 5 mjeseci koja raspoznaju
rhezus majmune, dok ih ona od 10 mjeseci ne raspoznaju. Jednostavna
prilagodba. Premapiranja su moguca. Neizbjezna pache. Katkad su
spontana, pogonjena podsvjesno. Ali i podlozna su vjezbi.

>>sto je zapravo totalno nepotrebno... IMNSHO
>
> Volio bih cuti malo vise detalja o tome zasto mislis da je to nepotrebno.
> Kako ti zamisljas (ili znas ?) da to funkcionira ?

Ako se slazemo da aura nije nesto sto je nuzno bilo vidjeti, bilo
namirisati, cuti, cak i opipati (sve ovo je eventualna posljedica jednog
od tih premapiranja), ostaje cinjenica da mi auru imamo cime osjetiti. I
procesirati tu percepciju.
Utoliko mi se cini da je svodjenje percepcije aura u domenu " npr
"vidljivog" zapravo kontraproduktivno, jer smo eto, opteretili dio mozga
nadlezan za procesiranje vizuelnog da procesira jos i to, za sto zapravo
i nije namjenjen. Da je aura namjenjena da bi bila vidjena, svi bi je
vidjeli. Naravno, ovo je evolucijski uvjetovano :))
Moj izbor bi bio vjezbanje utisavanja sebe, nebi li se doprlo do nekog
"modula" u mozgu koji je intrinsicno namjenjen za procesiranje takve
percepcije. Pogotovo zato jer jednom kad se to premapiranje napravi ...
recimo na vid ... kako ga maknuti na to moje zamisljeno "pravo mjesto"?
Vecinom se tudja aura ne moze zamjetiti zbog shuma vlastite.
Ukratko, nije mi mila ideja o svodjenju tog, po mom misljenju, 6.
osjetila na jedno od ovih prvih 5.

MG film

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> U koga to? Ne valjda u tebe?

U mene. Na zalost.

> Kad naucis cijeniti i voljeti ljude, mozda i bude nesto od tebe. Ako ne
> u ovom zivotu...
>

Ne brini se ti za mene. Brini se za sebe. kao sto se i Felix treba brinuti
za sebe. Nedostatak ljubavi prema ljudima i ljubav samo prema sebi najbolje
se ogleda u fizickom izgledu.


MG film

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> ... onda ce prozivjeti slijedeci kao pas i uz dobra gospodara mozda uspije
> nauciti cijeniti i voljeti ljude! Tako kazu knjige :)

Mozda. Ti to iz vlastitog iskustva ocito.


MG film

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> koji je tebi kurac?

Nikoji. Koji je tebi kad se pletes u ono sto ni ne znas?


MG film

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> kad zatvorim oci i kad sve izblijedi pocnu cudni valovi ljubicasto-indigo
> do bijele boje :)

To ti nije to. Znam da te stvari mogu fascinirati, ali to i jest problem kod
magije: mnogi se njome bave a da nisu naucili prvo fizikalne zakone i neke
fizioloske procese. Pa brkaju stvari.
Prvo treba znati sto sve moze izazvati iluziju, kako bi se moglo uci u
svijet gdje pojave nisu posljedica tih iluzija.

>
> svakakve stvari isplivaju iz toga :)

Kemija oka. Za pocetak procitati Tanhoferovu knjigu "O boji". To je nas
poznati redatelj koji je to napisao kao skriptu za studente ADU. Sada je
tiskana kao knjiga u ful koloru (ima i fotografije mojeg idola, snimateljice
Aleksandre Dabanovic).


pixa

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"MG film" <mgfi...@net.hr> wrote in message
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>> koji je tebi kurac?
>
> Nikoji. Koji je tebi kad se pletes u ono sto ni ne znas?
>

a sta bi trebao znati...da drkas na moju sliku :)?????


pixa

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aaaaa zato si ti sugav tako :))))

blijed i pjegav sa celom i sugavom plavom kosom, dlakav, i krestavog glasa
te manjka cm ;))))))


Shoder u ramenu!

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Jesi svjesna da ovo znaci da si ga vidjela golog??
Loseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Felix, daj je nauci da valja fore
kojima nece popljuvat samu sebe...

Ruthless Dragoness

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"MG film" <mgfi...@net.hr> wrote in message
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>> ... onda ce prozivjeti slijedeci kao pas i uz dobra gospodara mozda
>> uspije nauciti cijeniti i voljeti ljude! Tako kazu knjige :)
>
> Mozda. Ti to iz vlastitog iskustva ocito.

Eh, psicu moj mali, ljudi izgleda ne kuze da ovo JE taj tvoj pseci zivot. A
tako sporo ucis :((((


pixa

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"Shoder u ramenu!" <nigge...@flyVELIKA.srk.ferSLOVA.hr> wrote in message
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> pixa wrote:
>> "MG film" <mgfi...@net.hr> wrote in message
>> news:drcviv$kbm$1...@ss405.t-com.hr...
>>
>>>>U koga to? Ne valjda u tebe?
>>>
>>>U mene. Na zalost.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Kad naucis cijeniti i voljeti ljude, mozda i bude nesto od tebe. Ako ne
>>>>u ovom zivotu...
>>>>
>>>
>>>Ne brini se ti za mene. Brini se za sebe. kao sto se i Felix treba
>>>brinuti za sebe. Nedostatak ljubavi prema ljudima i ljubav samo prema
>>>sebi najbolje se ogleda u fizickom izgledu.
>>
>>
>>
>> aaaaa zato si ti sugav tako :))))
>>
>> blijed i pjegav sa celom i sugavom plavom kosom, dlakav, i krestavog
>> glasa te manjka cm ;))))))
>
> Jesi svjesna da ovo znaci da si ga vidjela golog??
> Loseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Felix, daj je nauci da valja fore kojima
> nece popljuvat samu sebe...
>

sta je tako nevjerovatno gledat gole slike na netu ;))))))

Felix, daj ga nauci da valja fore kojima nece popljuvat samog sebe...


MG film

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> aaaaa zato si ti sugav tako :))))

Valjda sam zato sugav.

>
> blijed i pjegav sa celom i sugavom plavom kosom, dlakav, i krestavog glasa
> te manjka cm ;))))))

A cuj. Ljepota je u oku promatraca. Mnogi se nakon tvojih rijeci iznenadjuju
kada vide na TV drugaciju sliku. Tvoj problem je sto si i ti ljubomorna. A o
ljubavi prema drugima takodjer svjedoci tvoj izgled: pokusavas biti
sminkerica a od manekenskog izgleda si 3 svjetlosne godine. Ja bar ne
pokusavam biti sto nisam.


MG film

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> Jesi svjesna da ovo znaci da si ga vidjela golog??
> Loseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Felix, daj je nauci da valja fore kojima
> nece popljuvat samu sebe...

Ne moze. To je Pixica. Nitko ne moze nauciti ovu curicu da se ne bruka.


MG film

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> Eh, psicu moj mali, ljudi izgleda ne kuze da ovo JE taj tvoj pseci zivot.
> A tako sporo ucis :((((

A sto bi ti htjela? da i tebe volim? Nece ici. Kupi si psa.


MG film

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> a sta bi trebao znati...da drkas na moju sliku :)?????
Ciniti to na tvoju sliku kontraproduktivno je. Mislim da se nekom manijaku,
kojem se dize na kosarkaske lopte, da tvoja slika, trebao bi viagru da ga
ponovno digne.


MG film

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"> da ... to sam se ja sokirao prvi put kad sam probao ... mislio sam da ce
> bit neki osjecaj kad ono paf! bas vidis :)

Jasno. Pisao sam o tome tekst a i govorio na TV kad je bila tema o Fritz
Albertu Poppu. I on je ocekivao da ce biti potreban vrlo osjetljiv
fotomultiplikator da izmjeri fotonsko zracenje ljudskog tijela. No iznenadio
se kad je ustanovio da je to zracenje daleko snaznije nego sto se i ponadao.
Fotopopravak, kako sa sunca, tako i iz nase unutrasnjosti (konkretno DNK)
zasluzan je za lijecenje bolesti. Ubaci u tijelo kemikalije koje djeluju kao
filteri za svjetlost (osobito ljubicasti dio spektra) i izazvat ces rak.


MG film

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> Ima ona fora da se krajickom oka kupe malo drugacije frekvencije svjetla
> nego ako se drito gleda u izvoriste istih. Koliko je povezana s ovime, ne
> znam :)

Periferija vida ne registrira boje. Najlakse ce to utvrditi tako sto ces
dati frenu obojene papirice pa neka ti ih pokazuje sa strane, tako da ih
vidis samo perifernim vidom. Garantirano neces biti u stanju pogoditi koje
su boje. Periferijom se bolje vidi POKRET.


pixa

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"MG film" <mgfi...@net.hr> wrote in message
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jep bla mos misli flame... no way ;))))))


Vjera Lopina

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MG film wrote:
> Vjera Lopina wrote:
> > U koga to? Ne valjda u tebe?
>
> U mene. Na zalost.

Pa kako se ocituje ta moja navodna zaljubljenost u tebe? Proganjam te,
nazivam te, saljem ti mailove, ne mozes se obraniti od mene? Ma daj, ne
fantaziraj, nemas bas nikakvu vrlinu ni osobinu u koju bih se mogla zaljubiti.



> > Kad naucis cijeniti i voljeti ljude, mozda i bude nesto od tebe. Ako ne
> > u ovom zivotu...
> >
> Ne brini se ti za mene. Brini se za sebe. kao sto se i Felix treba brinuti
> za sebe. Nedostatak ljubavi prema ljudima i ljubav samo prema sebi najbolje
> se ogleda u fizickom izgledu.

Felix i ja bismo se trebali ugledati u tebe? ;)

--
Vjera
Vjera....@ffzg.hr

MG film

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Jan 27, 2006, 7:06:36 AM1/27/06
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> jep bla mos misli flame... no way ;))))))
Pixica, evo ti iskreno: nikad nisam pomislio na neku seksualnost pri pogledu
na tebe. Nisi tip zene koja bi me palila. Prvo, ne palim se na mladje, a
drugo, ne volim mrtva puhala.


MG film

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Jan 27, 2006, 7:08:51 AM1/27/06
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> Pa kako se ocituje ta moja navodna zaljubljenost u tebe? Proganjam te,
> nazivam te, saljem ti mailove, ne mozes se obraniti od mene?

Ne. Ipak si ti malo starija i pristojnija. To nije tvoj nivo. Neki muski to
rade sa ove grupe.


>Ma daj, ne
> fantaziraj, nemas bas nikakvu vrlinu ni osobinu u koju bih se mogla
> zaljubiti.
>

Ne? A cemu onda oi tvoji postovi?

> Felix i ja bismo se trebali ugledati u tebe? ;)
>

Ni u kom slucaju. Vi ne mozete biti ja, kao sto ja ne zelim i nikad necu
biti kao vi. Ugledajte se na nesto plemenito blisko vama.


MG film

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Jan 27, 2006, 3:10:54 PM1/27/06
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>
> sta je tako nevjerovatno gledat gole slike na netu ;))))))

Moje gole slike nisu na netu. Ne bi ih imala odakle staviti na net. A i da
jesu, hebi ga. Sta me briga.
Imas link?


Lord Corwin

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Jan 27, 2006, 3:59:46 PM1/27/06
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"Shoder u ramenu!" <nigge...@flyVELIKA.srk.ferSLOVA.hr> wrote

> U ovom specificnom slucaju mislim da samo osjetilo vida nema nista s time.

> Radi se samo o preusmjeravanju "podataka" dobivenih drugim osjetilom tako
> da ih se interpretira kao nesto sto je vidjeno, ocima.

Mozda nema direktno, ali vec samo "rasterecivanje" kanala, tj. protoka
podataka, prebacivanjem na periferni vid, moze osloboditi resurse potrebne
za ove druge svrhe.

> Receno je da ljudi koji su slijepi imaju puno razvijenija ostala osjetila.
> Zasto? Zato jer im slijepoca, nekoristenje jednog veceg djela mozga,
> odnosno promet signala prema istome, omogucuje da vise signala ide u druge
> djelove mozga, signala koji bi inace bili ignorirani zbog toga jer nam je
> primarno osjetilo vid. Vise signala znaci vise veza medju neuronima, vise
> znanja.
> Analogno, vido sam primjer djece od npr 5 mjeseci koja raspoznaju rhezus
> majmune, dok ih ona od 10 mjeseci ne raspoznaju. Jednostavna prilagodba.
> Premapiranja su moguca. Neizbjezna pache. Katkad su spontana, pogonjena
> podsvjesno. Ali i podlozna su vjezbi.

Upravo tako.

> Ako se slazemo da aura nije nesto sto je nuzno bilo vidjeti, bilo
> namirisati, cuti, cak i opipati (sve ovo je eventualna posljedica jednog
> od tih premapiranja), ostaje cinjenica da mi auru imamo cime osjetiti. I
> procesirati tu percepciju.
> Utoliko mi se cini da je svodjenje percepcije aura u domenu " npr
> "vidljivog" zapravo kontraproduktivno, jer smo eto, opteretili dio mozga
> nadlezan za procesiranje vizuelnog da procesira jos i to, za sto zapravo i
> nije namjenjen. Da je aura namjenjena da bi bila vidjena, svi bi je
> vidjeli. Naravno, ovo je evolucijski uvjetovano :))
> Moj izbor bi bio vjezbanje utisavanja sebe, nebi li se doprlo do nekog
> "modula" u mozgu koji je intrinsicno namjenjen za procesiranje takve
> percepcije. Pogotovo zato jer jednom kad se to premapiranje napravi ...
> recimo na vid ... kako ga maknuti na to moje zamisljeno "pravo mjesto"?
> Vecinom se tudja aura ne moze zamjetiti zbog shuma vlastite.
> Ukratko, nije mi mila ideja o svodjenju tog, po mom misljenju, 6. osjetila
> na jedno od ovih prvih 5.

Ovo sto pises podudara se djelimicno s okultnom povijesti covjecanstva koja
kaze da smo mi svi (ljudi) imali to svojstvo, ali je tokom evolucije
zrtvovano i ustupilo mjesto nekim drugim svojstvima. Dakle, kod vecine ljudi
koji su prirodno nadareni da to vide radi se (po tome) de facto o atavizmu.
No prica takodjer kaze da ce to svojstvo biti ponovo aktivirano kada tokom
evolucije bude zavrsen razvoj i integracija centara kojima su (privremeno)
ustupili mjesto, ali tada ce funkcionalnost tog svojstva biti na visem
nivou. Tako da je zapravo tesko odrediti na prvi pogled tko je primitivac a
tko evoluciono napredan i razvijen. Ili mozda i nije ;))


Vjera Lopina

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Jan 27, 2006, 1:44:03 PM1/27/06
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MG film wrote:
> Vjera Lopina wrote:
> > Pa kako se ocituje ta moja navodna zaljubljenost u tebe? Proganjam te,
> > nazivam te, saljem ti mailove, ne mozes se obraniti od mene?
>
> Ne. Ipak si ti malo starija i pristojnija. To nije tvoj nivo. Neki muski to
> rade sa ove grupe.

Pitala sam kako se to ocituje moja navodna zaljubljenost u tebe. Nisi odgovorio.



> > Ma daj, ne
> > fantaziraj, nemas bas nikakvu vrlinu ni osobinu u koju bih se mogla
> > zaljubiti.
> >
> Ne? A cemu onda oi tvoji postovi?

Umisljas si da je svatko tko podrugljivo odgovori na neki tvoj post
zaljubljen u tebe? Ili samo ja?

> > Felix i ja bismo se trebali ugledati u tebe? ;)
> >
> Ni u kom slucaju. Vi ne mozete biti ja, kao sto ja ne zelim i nikad necu
> biti kao vi. Ugledajte se na nesto plemenito blisko vama.

Pa ja se nastojim ugledati na plemenite ljude bliske meni. Ali ti nisi
plemenit i ne mozes nikome biti uzor.

--
Vjera
Vjera....@ffzg.hr

oracle aka pix

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Jan 28, 2006, 5:16:59 AM1/28/06
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"Vjera Lopina"

> Umisljas si da je svatko tko podrugljivo odgovori na neki tvoj post
> zaljubljen u tebe?

Da ;-))))))


MG film

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> Pitala sam kako se to ocituje moja navodna zaljubljenost u tebe. Nisi
> odgovorio.

Nije navodna.
Po ovome:
a) kada me nije bilo, nije ni tebe bilo
b) kada sam se pojavio evo i tebe
c) samo meni i odgovaras

E sad pazi ovamo: nisi ti uopce losa. Ne bih te ja nikada ni zbog cega
odbio. Ali pobogu, ne podnosim drustvo Felixa, i njemu slicnih. To ti je
jedina mana, naravno uz onu koju sam ti vec spomenuo, a koja je posljedica:
da si dozvoljavas da ti napuni glavu svojim glupostima. Ti si obrazovana
zena. Ne kuzim kako mozes budali dati da ti ispire mozak.

> Umisljas si da je svatko tko podrugljivo odgovori na neki tvoj post
> zaljubljen u tebe? Ili samo ja?

Ne samo ti. Ovdje su u mene zaljubljeni:
a) ti
b) Pixica
c) Albert
d) Sword

Potonji otpadaju. Ja volim zene.

> Pa ja se nastojim ugledati na plemenite ljude bliske meni. Ali ti nisi
> plemenit i ne mozes nikome biti uzor.
>

Nisam o sebi govorio. Rekoh, nikada necete biti kao ja pa se nemojte ni
ugledati u mene.


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MG film

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Jan 28, 2006, 5:39:53 AM1/28/06
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> Pitala sam kako se to ocituje moja navodna zaljubljenost u tebe. Nisi
> odgovorio.

Nije navodna.


Po ovome:
a) kada me nije bilo, nije ni tebe bilo
b) kada sam se pojavio evo i tebe
c) samo meni i odgovaras

E sad pazi ovamo: nisi ti uopce losa. Ne bih te ja nikada ni zbog cega

odbio. Ali pobogu, ne podnosim drustvo nekih osoba preko kojih sam te
upoznao. To ti je


jedina mana, naravno uz onu koju sam ti vec spomenuo, a koja je posljedica:

da si dozvoljavas da ti napune glavu svojim glupostima. Ti si obrazovana


zena. Ne kuzim kako mozes budali dati da ti ispire mozak.

> Umisljas si da je svatko tko podrugljivo odgovori na neki tvoj post


> zaljubljen u tebe? Ili samo ja?

Ne samo ti. Ovdje su u mene zaljubljeni:


a) ti
b) Pixica
c) Albert
d) Sword

Potonji otpadaju. Ja volim zene.

> Pa ja se nastojim ugledati na plemenite ljude bliske meni. Ali ti nisi


> plemenit i ne mozes nikome biti uzor.
>

Cuvarkuca

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Jan 28, 2006, 9:06:25 AM1/28/06
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On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:31:43 +0100, MG film wrote:
>> Pitala sam kako se to ocituje moja navodna zaljubljenost u tebe. Nisi
>> odgovorio.
> Nije navodna.
> Po ovome:
> a) kada me nije bilo, nije ni tebe bilo
> b) kada sam se pojavio evo i tebe
> c) samo meni i odgovaras

Po ovome sto si naveo, navodna je...

Cuvarkuca

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Jan 28, 2006, 9:08:34 AM1/28/06
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On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:39:53 +0100, MG film wrote:
> E sad pazi ovamo: nisi ti uopce losa. Ne bih te ja nikada ni zbog cega
> odbio. Ali pobogu, ne podnosim **drustvo nekih osoba** preko kojih sam te
> upoznao. To ti je

Cemu ispravak?

folletti

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Jan 28, 2006, 4:23:42 PM1/28/06
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"MG film" <mgfi...@net.hr> je napisao u poruci interesnoj
grupi:drfhlq$lrb$1...@ss405.t-com.hr...

> Ne samo ti. Ovdje su u mene zaljubljeni:
> a) ti
> b) Pixica
> c) Albert
> d) Sword
>
> Potonji otpadaju. Ja volim zene.


Mislim da nisi u pravu jer sam jedino od njih ja ta koja te zasluzuje.


Albert

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Jan 28, 2006, 4:54:04 PM1/28/06
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"MG film" <mgfi...@net.hr> je napisao u poruci interesnoj
grupi:drfhlq$lrb$1...@ss405.t-com.hr...

> Ne samo ti. Ovdje su u mene zaljubljeni:


> a) ti
> b) Pixica
> c) Albert
> d) Sword
>
> Potonji otpadaju. Ja volim zene.


Samo tebe moje stare vojničke čiľme ľele i za tobom pate, nacrtaj se pred
njima i one će da shvate koliko te zaista ljube.
Stalno mi plaču ta čiľme za tobom, daj budi čovjek i usliąaj im molbu pa
dođi pred njih da ti pokaľu svu ljubav svoju!


MG film

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Jan 28, 2006, 7:44:17 PM1/28/06
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> Mislim da nisi u pravu jer sam jedino od njih ja ta koja te zasluzuje.
E sad preostaje vidjeti zasluzujem li ja tebe.


Per A'a enters Per Nether

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Jan 29, 2006, 5:46:09 AM1/29/06
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>> Umisljas si da je svatko tko podrugljivo odgovori na neki tvoj post
>> zaljubljen u tebe?

A zasto odgovaras pa i podrugljivo?

>
> Da ;-))))))

O tebi necu.


Cuvarkuca

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Jan 29, 2006, 7:16:01 AM1/29/06
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 01:44:17 +0100, MG film wrote:
>> Mislim da nisi u pravu jer sam jedino od njih ja ta koja te zasluzuje.
> E sad preostaje vidjeti zasluzujem li ja tebe.

kakva god da je, tesko da je budala u rangu, ili veca od tebe.

Vjera Lopina

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Jan 29, 2006, 3:56:20 AM1/29/06
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Definitivno jesi. :)

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Vjera....@ffzg.hr

Vjera Lopina

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Jan 29, 2006, 8:05:57 AM1/29/06
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Per A'a enters Per Nether wrote:

> Vjera Lopina wrote:
> >> Umisljas si da je svatko tko podrugljivo odgovori na neki tvoj post
> >> zaljubljen u tebe?
>
> A zasto odgovaras pa i podrugljivo?

Zato sto se nekad namjestis tako da ne mogu odoljeti. No da sam
zaljubljena u tebe, odgovaranje ne bi bilo podrugljivo. Fazu "tko se
tuce, taj se voli" prerasla sam jos jako davno.

--
Vjera
Vjera....@ffzg.hr

oracle aka pix

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Jan 29, 2006, 11:46:20 AM1/29/06
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"Vjera Lopina"

> Zato sto se nekad namjestis tako da ne mogu odoljeti. No da sam
> zaljubljena u tebe, odgovaranje ne bi bilo podrugljivo. Fazu "tko se
> tuce, taj se voli" prerasla sam jos jako davno.


joooj Vjera kako ne razumijes... kad odrastes u familiji di otac mlati mater a mater trpi i govori djeci da bez obzira na sve ona ga
i dalje voli i on joj nakon toga rece da je voli, nije nit cudo sto se odgoje mangupi kojima zbilja se podrazumljeva ona "tko se
tuce taj se voli"...


Shoder u ramenu!

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Jan 30, 2006, 4:29:11 AM1/30/06
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pixa wrote:
> "Shoder u ramenu!" <nigge...@flyVELIKA.srk.ferSLOVA.hr> wrote in message
> news:drd0ot$n50$2...@ss405.t-com.hr...
>>Jesi svjesna da ovo znaci da si ga vidjela golog??
>>Loseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Felix, daj je nauci da valja fore kojima
>>nece popljuvat samu sebe...

>
> sta je tako nevjerovatno gledat gole slike na netu ;))))))
> Felix, daj ga nauci da valja fore kojima nece popljuvat samog sebe...

Jos gore ... kaj si tak ocajna da ces i golog Elvisa gledat?? Sirotica.com

Quazaar

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oracle aka pix

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Jan 30, 2006, 4:50:11 AM1/30/06
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"Shoder u ramenu!"

>
> Jos gore ... kaj si tak ocajna da ces i golog Elvisa gledat?? Sirotica.com
>
> Quazaar

nisi cuo za mazohizam ;)?


Shoder u ramenu!

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Jan 30, 2006, 5:04:37 AM1/30/06
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Lord Corwin wrote:
> "Shoder u ramenu!" <nigge...@flyVELIKA.srk.ferSLOVA.hr> wrote
>
>>U ovom specificnom slucaju mislim da samo osjetilo vida nema nista s time.
>>Radi se samo o preusmjeravanju "podataka" dobivenih drugim osjetilom tako
>>da ih se interpretira kao nesto sto je vidjeno, ocima.
>
> Mozda nema direktno, ali vec samo "rasterecivanje" kanala, tj. protoka
> podataka, prebacivanjem na periferni vid, moze osloboditi resurse potrebne
> za ove druge svrhe.

Ne znam. Iz nekog razloga, ne mogu iskljuciti i druge razloge tih
tranzijentnih pojava u perifernom vidu koje nestanu kad pogledas
direktno u njih. Specificno, zbog raznih razloga, svasta moze biti
prespojeno u periferni vid, ne samo osjetilo aure.

Atavizam znaci da je to nesto sto moze biti pokrenuto i genetski, a i
nekom naknadnom intervencijom (bolesti ili udarci). Sto opet znaci da je
kod nekih zakrzljalo totalno, kod nekih bas i nije, a kod nekih moze
biti i poprilicno razvijeno, neovisno o radu na istom. Takodjer bi
znacilo da je u nekakvoj idealiziranoj proslosti bilo lakse doprijeti do
tih potencijala. No to je mislim samo nostalgija, kako se dokazalo
puuuno puta.
Ja se zapravo totalno ne slazem sa mojim shvacanjem te okultne
povijesti. Misljenja sam da to o cemu pricam imamo svi, i dan danas. Ali
funkcionira vise na bazi proboja signala (svjesnih) do nekog djela
mozga. Obicno je za takav proboj potrebna ili dugotrajna vjezba, ili jak
signal, npr. boli. Jer bol je ono sto nas pogoni. Zuljanje, neugoda
trenutnog stanja. No, mozak je dosta poput prazne ploce. Biljezi ono sto
se po njemu pise. Na taj nacin se uglavnom bavi covjekovim svakodnevnim
radom. Ako se uistinu dogadja da zbog toga neke druge funkcije bivaju
zanemarene, mozemo govoriti o atavizmima. Ali opet, uistinu sumnjam da
su te sposobnosti nekad bile razvijenije nego danas.
Evolucija covjeka je uvijek zanimljivo pitanje. Napredujemo li, ili
nazadujemo, ili stagniramo. Odgovor je mislim u kratkom pogledu natrag
... kakva se kolicina evolucije moze dogodit za 10000 godina?? Pa Mt.
Everest je za to vrijeme narastao mozda par metara... Danasnji covjek
prosjecni ima potencijala dosta, ali i nije prebistar, pogotovo u
grupama, tako da sam , na osnovu tog istog covjeka, nesklon vjerovati u
Atlantide, Shangri-La i slicno. A i kad se uzme koliko je vremena
trebalo da stvari poput slijepog crijeva, onih par kraljezaka i slicno
postanu atavizmi ... koliko bi trebalo da neka ljudska sposobnost
postane atavizam??

MG Film

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Jan 30, 2006, 9:43:31 AM1/30/06
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> nisi cuo za mazohizam ;)?
Ne opravdavaj se sad. Priznaj, bit ce ti lakse. Palis se na vukodlake.


MG Film

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Jan 30, 2006, 9:46:04 AM1/30/06
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> Zato sto se nekad namjestis tako da ne mogu odoljeti.

Hmmm...i ti ides putem Pixice...i odajes se.
A da znas kako se tek dobro namjestim na sipki u Portalu. U SS uniformi koju
skidam pred tobom. Samo za tebe.

> No da sam
> zaljubljena u tebe, odgovaranje ne bi bilo podrugljivo. Fazu "tko se
> tuce, taj se voli" prerasla sam jos jako davno.

Moze i obrnuto. Tko se voli taj se tuce. Tvoj slucaj.


MG Film

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Jan 30, 2006, 9:47:28 AM1/30/06
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> joooj Vjera kako ne razumijes... kad odrastes u familiji di otac mlati
> mater a mater trpi i govori djeci da bez obzira na sve ona ga i dalje
> voli i on joj nakon toga rece da je voli, nije nit cudo sto se odgoje
> mangupi kojima zbilja se podrazumljeva ona "tko se tuce taj se voli"...

Ti to o svojima? Zar nisi bas ti pricala na grupi da tebe tuku i otimaju ti
dijete? Pa se pokazalo da ti tuces njih a oni ti nedaju dijete jer se vracas
nadrogirana sa partija i zapostavljas ga?


MG Film

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Jan 30, 2006, 9:48:25 AM1/30/06
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> kakva god da je, tesko da je budala u rangu, ili veca od tebe.

Ne vrijedjaj. Ona je opasna macka. Jao si ga tebi ako je uvrijedis.


MG Film

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Jan 30, 2006, 9:49:15 AM1/30/06
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> Definitivno jesi. :)
>
Dobro. jest. A cemu sad ljubomora? A Vjera? Pa cuj: kod tebe je presudio
tvoj izbor: izabrala si Felixa.


MG Film

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Jan 30, 2006, 9:50:30 AM1/30/06
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> Stalno mi plaču ta čiľme za tobom, daj budi čovjek i usliąaj im molbu pa
> dođi pred njih da ti pokaľu svu ljubav svoju!

Bolje i tvoja cizma nego Pixicina pusa.


Shoder u ramenu!

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Jan 30, 2006, 10:31:45 AM1/30/06
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sirotica^kubik ;)

oracle aka pix

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Jan 30, 2006, 11:31:45 AM1/30/06
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"MG Film" <M...@film.net> wrote in message news:drl8mr$2v5$1...@ss405.t-com.hr...

>> nisi cuo za mazohizam ;)?
> Ne opravdavaj se sad. Priznaj, bit ce ti lakse. Palis se na vukodlake.


nope.. palim se na inteligenciju+njeznost+sexy izgled... na to se palim


MG Film

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Jan 30, 2006, 2:10:51 PM1/30/06
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> nope.. palim se na inteligenciju+njeznost+sexy izgled... na to se palim
To sam i rekao.


MG Film

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Jan 30, 2006, 2:11:51 PM1/30/06
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> sirotica^kubik ;)
>
Jest. Jos da nije tako tvrdoglava pa da prizna da me voli...bilo bi joj
lakse. Tko zna, mozda bih joj i oprostio za sve pakosti koje je ucinila.


Albert

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Jan 30, 2006, 5:59:31 PM1/30/06
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"MG Film" <M...@film.net> je napisao u poruci interesnoj
grupi:drl93t$3uu$1...@ss405.t-com.hr...

>> Stalno mi plaču ta čiľme za tobom, daj budi čovjek i usliąaj im molbu pa
>> dođi pred njih da ti pokaľu svu ljubav svoju!
>
> Bolje i tvoja cizma nego Pixicina pusa.

sad se ti Pixa uči ąto je pravi mazo..


:)


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