[HQ-A] GA-P35-DS3L guide

[mosslack]

For anyone interested, this guide has been updated to use VoodooHDA instead of AppleHDA for sound.  Plus the guide is for a new install directly to 10.6.3 with a section at the end which explains the procedure for updating from 10.6.2 to 10.6.3.  Your comments are welcome and appreciated.

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[PH]

If you apply the sleep enabler identified as 10.6.x (designed to and
does work on 10.6, 10.6.1, 10.6.2 and 10.6.3) before you update to
10.6.3, then the process is somewhat simpler.

[mosslack]

On Apr 24, 2010, at 1:10 AM, PH wrote:

If you apply the sleep enabler identified as 10.6.x (designed to and
does work on 10.6, 10.6.1, 10.6.2 and 10.6.3) before you update to
10.6.3, then the process is somewhat simpler.

Not sure what you mean, the installer has that version of the SleepEnabler.kext and is installed when you run the installer.  The instructions at the bottom are for updating from 10.6.2 to 10.6.3.

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[PH]

My whole point was:

Of the sleep enabler is replaced with the one which is good for 10.6,
10.6.1, 10.6.2 and 10.6.3, within the "Make USB flash drive bootable"
and "GA-P35-DS3L Installer" packages on the flash drive, and within
the /Extra folder(s) on the running system(s), then there is no need
to back out the sleep enabler before, and to install another sleep
enabler after, the 10.6.3 Combo Update.

[mosslack]

On Apr 24, 2010, at 10:26 AM, PH wrote:

My whole point was:

Of the sleep enabler is replaced with the one which is good for 10.6,
10.6.1, 10.6.2 and 10.6.3, within the "Make USB flash drive bootable"
and "GA-P35-DS3L Installer" packages on the flash drive, and within
the /Extra folder(s) on the running system(s), then there is no need
to back out the sleep enabler before, and to install another sleep
enabler after, the 10.6.3 Combo Update.

The universal SleepEnabler.kext IS used in the installer for the updated guide.  But for those who used the old guide with the old version of the SleepEnabler.kext to install 10.6.2, I've included instructions on how to change to the new one at the end, as well as switching to the VoodooHDA.kext for audio.  HTH

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[Piglet]

On Apr 23, 6:35 pm, mosslack <hackint...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> For anyone interested, this guide has been updated to use VoodooHDA instead of AppleHDA for sound.  Plus the guide is for a new install directly to 10.6.3 with a section at the end which explains the procedure for updating from 10.6.2 to 10.6.3.  Your comments are welcome and appreciated.
>

> http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a/web/install-guide-gigabyte-ga-p35...
>

Thank you so much for your time to update the guide. More importantly
for me as a newly install 10.6, I can install directly to 10.6.3. This
can safe more time. Can't wait to try this thing out. :)

[mosslack]

On Apr 26, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Piglet wrote:

On Apr 23, 6:35 pm, mosslack <hackint...@embarqmail.com> wrote:

For anyone interested, this guide has been updated to use VoodooHDA instead of AppleHDA for sound.  Plus the guide is for a new install directly to 10.6.3 with a section at the end which explains the procedure for updating from 10.6.2 to 10.6.3.  Your comments are welcome and appreciated.

http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a/web/install-guide-gigabyte-ga-p35...

Thank you so much for your time to update the guide. More importantly
for me as a newly install 10.6, I can install directly to 10.6.3. This
can safe more time. Can't wait to try this thing out. :)

You are welcome, do let me know how well it works or doesn't work, whatever the case may be.  I like to be sure my guides work for everyone and letting me know when something doesn't work helps me a lot.

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[Jeff Hester]

I've built another box for a college student (as a gift).  It is a 2 GB system on the Gigabyte ga-g41m-es2l with an Intel E6500 and EVGA 8400GS 512MB.  I'm using the G41M guide from the groups page (thanks Peter and mosslack!) and so far it is installing fine from the USB drive.  I did go ahead and replace the sleepenabler.kext in the contents of both the Make USB bootable and the GA-G41M-ES2L installer (based on the P35-DS3L guide).  I hope that was the right thing to do for this board too.

To get sound working on this board do I need the VoodooHDA or the AppleHDA?  I'm using Peter's dsdt for the G41M and hope it continues to work great.

The revision on the board is 1.1.

Thanks.

  -- Jeff

[Peter Haas]

On Apr 26, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Jeff Hester wrote:

> To get sound working on this board do I need the VoodooHDA or the
> AppleHDA? I'm using Peter's dsdt for the G41M and hope it
> continues to work great.
>
> The revision on the board is 1.1.

Use the "compare" feature of Gigabyte's site, comparing the GA-G41M-
ES2L rev. 1.0 and the GA-G41M-ES2L rev. 1.1 and check for any
differences.

At least there might be some DSDT changes required, in which case the
"compare" feature of DSDTSE can be used, comparing the rev 1.1 DSDT
in the left panel and the rev. 1.0 DSDT in the right panel, and
copying any additions or deletions from the right to the left.

[Jeff Hester]

Using the compare feature on Gigabyte's site there is no difference
between the two revisions.

How is the best way to pull the DSDT from the rev 1.1 board? When it
boots up it's using your DSDT (based on rev 1.0) is the one that it will
actually pull when I use the extra DSDT function in DSDTSE right?

It looks like my first casualty is the network. Although it's using the
same chip using the SnowR1000 install doesn't get the network going. I
tried it on 10.6 and then again after I updated to 10.6.3 using the
combo updater. Neither worked.

Thanks.

-- Jeff

On 4/26/10 9:26 PM, Peter Haas wrote:
> Use the "compare" feature of Gigabyte's site, comparing the

> GA-G41M-ES2L rev. 1.0 and the GA-G41M-ES2L rev. 1.1 and check for any

[Peter Haas]

On Apr 26, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Jeff Hester wrote:

> How is the best way to pull the DSDT from the rev 1.1 board? When
> it boots up it's using your DSDT (based on rev 1.0) is the one that
> it will actually pull when I use the extra DSDT function in DSDTSE
> right?
>

The best way is to use Linux and copy the DSDT to the desktop, then
write it to a flash drive.

> It looks like my first casualty is the network. Although it's
> using the same chip using the SnowR1000 install doesn't get the
> network going. I tried it on 10.6 and then again after I updated
> to 10.6.3 using the combo updater. Neither worked.

Hmmm ... then SOMETHING must have changed in the wired E-net part of
the mobo. Perhaps changing from a PCI to a PCI-e MAC chip?

[mosslack]

On Apr 26, 2010, at 11:25 PM, Peter Haas wrote:

On Apr 26, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Jeff Hester wrote:

How is the best way to pull the DSDT from the rev 1.1 board?  When it boots up it's using your DSDT (based on rev 1.0) is the one that it will actually pull when I use the extra DSDT function in DSDTSE right?

The best way is to use Linux and copy the DSDT to the desktop, then write it to a flash drive.

It looks like my first casualty is the network.  Although it's using the same chip using the SnowR1000 install doesn't get the network going.  I tried it on 10.6 and then again after I updated to 10.6.3 using the combo updater.  Neither worked.

Hmmm ... then SOMETHING must have changed in the wired E-net part of the mobo. Perhaps changing from a PCI to a PCI-e MAC chip?

The network should work without the kext, if it doesn't then something else is the problem.  The kext only gets bonjour working IIRC.  Also, if you have not tried the DSDT from the 1.0 system, I would give that a try.  It may be close enough to work just fine.  

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[Peter Haas]

On Apr 27, 2010, at 12:47 PM, mosslack wrote:

> The kext only gets bonjour working IIRC.

Correct, and this is an R1000 solution.

The R8169 PCI card does not need the kext, nor does the Marvell on
Shuttles and some Intel boards.

Possibly the R1000 is PCI-e and not PCI?

[Jeff Hester]

I'm downloading the Ubuntu Live DVD so I can start up from that and
hopefully pull the DSDT for the rev 1.1 board by booting up in Ubuntu
from the DVD. Hopefully that will give some insight as to why the
network isn't working.

Thanks.

-- Jeff

[Jeff Hester]

Ok. It is working now. Running the Snow1000 app I thought would
install the kext. I tried the different method of using KextUtility
to install the kext from the Contents of the Snow1000 app and it
worked fine. Now I'm cruising on the new box very nicely.

Thanks.

-- Jeff

[mosslack]

On Apr 27, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Jeff Hester wrote:

Ok.  It is working now.  Running the Snow1000 app I thought would
install the kext.  I tried the different method of using KextUtility
to install the kext from the Contents of the Snow1000 app and it
worked fine.  Now I'm cruising on the new box very nicely.

Thanks.

-- Jeff

Just out of curiosity, how were you trying to install it?  I'm asking because I've had some problems with that on other systems as well.

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[Jeff Hester]

I tried to install it by clicking on the SnowR1000 app.  I just assumed that it installed it.  When I installed it using Kext Utility it said that the kext was not found.  So evidently the SnowR1000 app doesn't actually install it on some systems.

 -- Jeff

[mosslack]

On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Jeff Hester wrote:

I tried to install it by clicking on the SnowR1000 app.  I just assumed that it installed it.  When I installed it using Kext Utility it said that the kext was not found.  So evidently the SnowR1000 app doesn't actually install it on some systems.

 -- Jeff

Yep, I've had the same thing happen as well.  I even went as far as to try different ways of running the installer by doing it from the folder it was downloaded in and then tried moving it to the desktop.  The latter seemed to work the best for me, but I think I may just use the Kext Utility method in the future.  Thanks Jeff.

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[Peter Haas]

On Apr 27, 2010, at 3:04 PM, mosslack wrote:

> Yep, I've had the same thing happen as well. I even went as far as
> to try different ways of running the installer by doing it from the
> folder it was downloaded in and then tried moving it to the
> desktop. The latter seemed to work the best for me, but I think I
> may just use the Kext Utility method in the future. Thanks Jeff.
>

Left click on the package, and then move the kext to the desktop and
finally drag the kext to the Kext Installer application.

[Jeff Hester]

Using Linux I was able to pull the dsdt from the rev 1.1 board. It's
in the files section and named "dsdt.dsl". I'm sorry it doesn't have
a better name but I've not be able to determine how to rename it.
I've not looked to see how it's different than the on that Peter
provides (for rev 1.0).

Thanks.

-- Jeff

[PH]

> Using Linux I was able to pull the dsdt from the rev1.1board.  It's

> in the files section and named "dsdt.dsl".  I'm sorry it doesn't have
> a better name but I've not be able to determine how to rename it.
> I've not looked to see how it's different than the on that Peter
> provides (for rev 1.0).

I applied the changes which were included in rev. 1.0 to rev. 1.1 and
uploaded the file today.

The unmodified DSDT file was deleted.

It appears that the rev. 1.1 DSDT was virtually identical to the rev.
1.0 DSDT, but I didn't take any chances.

[Jeff Hester]

On 4/28/10 9:56 AM, PH wrote:
> I applied the changes which were included in rev. 1.0 to rev. 1.1 and
> uploaded the file today.
>
> The unmodified DSDT file was deleted.
>
> It appears that the rev. 1.1 DSDT was virtually identical to the rev.
> 1.0 DSDT, but I didn't take any chances.

Would you suggest replace the current DSDT with the new one? The
original one works fine with the rev 1.1 board that I have.

I've got a PNY 8400 GS 256 MB that I was never able to get to work with
Leopard. What are the chances I could get it working with Snow with the
g41m-es2l board and the newest DSDT? I think I recall where you said
the DSDT was written with a 512 MB graphics card in mind.

Thanks.

-- Jeff

[Peter Haas]

On Apr 29, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Jeff Hester wrote:

> Would you suggest replace the current DSDT with the new one? The
> original one works fine with the rev 1.1 board that I have.

No reason to change the DSDT as they are functionally identical.

However, new users probably should use the updated one I provided.

>
> I've got a PNY 8400 GS 256 MB that I was never able to get to work
> with Leopard. What are the chances I could get it working with
> Snow with the g41m-es2l board and the newest DSDT? I think I
> recall where you said the DSDT was written with a 512 MB graphics
> card in mind.

The DSDT which I provided assumed a 512 MB 8400GS.

To adapt the DSDT to a 256 MB card, change the size value from 0x20
to 0x10.

It is the fourth byte of the VRAM total size parameter.

Then recompile using DSDTSE and replace the DSDT in /Extra.

That's all there is to it.

If you had, say, a 128 MB 7200GS, the value would be 0x08.

[Piglet]

On Apr 23, 6:35 pm, mosslack <hackint...@embarqmail.com> wrote:

> For anyone interested, this guide has been updated to use VoodooHDA instead of AppleHDA for sound.  Plus the guide is for a new install directly to 10.6.3 with a section at the end which explains the procedure for updating from 10.6.2 to 10.6.3.  Your comments are welcome and appreciated.
>

> http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a/web/install-guide-gigabyte-ga-p35...
>

mosslack,

I'm using VoodooHDA.kext, but I can't install the Voodoo.pref. It got
error message.

Yesterday I just tested the rear output, and found out that the sound
was not loud as I expect. I connected rear audio output to my HDTV. I
had to volume up to 100% on my TV, and Mac. Is that normal?

[Peter Haas]

On May 7, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Piglet wrote:

> Yesterday I just tested the rear output, and found out that the sound
> was not loud as I expect. I connected rear audio output to my HDTV. I
> had to volume up to 100% on my TV, and Mac. Is that normal?

Alas, yes.

It may be possible to improve matters, somewhat, by opening the
Voodoo prefPane and turning the analog output UP, and the digital
output DOWN.

However, a properly hacked AppleHDA probably works better.

Alas, for 10.6.3, Apple broke the ALC888 codec (but not the ALC889a
codec of the similar GA-P35-DS3R).

The hacked AppleHDA adds back in the ALC888.

[Piglet]

On May 7, 10:53 am, Peter Haas <peterh...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> Alas, yes.
>
> It may be possible to improve matters, somewhat, by opening the  
> Voodoo prefPane and turning the analog output UP, and the digital  
> output DOWN.
>
> However, a properly hacked AppleHDA probably works better.
>
> Alas, for 10.6.3, Apple broke the ALC888 codec (but not the ALC889a  
> codec of the similar GA-P35-DS3R).
>
> The hacked AppleHDA adds back in the ALC888.
>

Is there any working AppleHDA available. Would you please let me know?

[Peter Haas]

On May 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Piglet wrote:

> Is there any working AppleHDA available. Would you please let me know?

The one I posted to the site for the Shuttle also works for any ALC888.

I am now using it on my Shuttle P35, others are using it on their
Shuttle G31, and it will work on a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L (or equivalent).

In general, the Gigabyte DS3Rs (R meaning the RAID version of the
ICH) almost always use ALC889a's whereas the Gigabyte DS3Ls (non-R,
meaning the non-RAID version of the ICH) almost always use ALC888's.

However ...

An ALC888b is NOT an ALC888, it is really an ALC887, and an ALC889a
is really an ALC885.

Anyway, the hacked AppleHDA for ALC888 should work for you.

[nestwasright]

On Apr 23, 5:35 pm, mosslack <hackint...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> For anyone interested, this guide has been updated to use VoodooHDA instead of AppleHDA for sound.  Plus the guide is for a new install directly to 10.6.3 with a section at the end which explains the procedure for updating from 10.6.2 to 10.6.3.  Your comments are welcome and appreciated.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a/web/install-guide-gigabyte-ga-p35...
>

> Just a message from mosslack...
>

By any chance, would the VoodooHDA in the guide work on 10.5.8 iDeneb
Lite? The VoodooHDA text on that distribution produces very low sound
and mic input does not work. From the audio dump, the card in this IBM
R60 is:AD1981HD. I have the audio dump if anyone wants to help.

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>
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>

[Peter Haas]

On May 8, 2010, at 6:18 AM, nestwasright wrote:

> From the audio dump, the card in this IBM
> R60 is:AD1981HD. I have the audio dump if anyone wants to help.

The GA-P35-DS3L guide (the Guide which was referenced in this thread)
was written for a GA-P35-DS3L. It has a P35 Northbridge, an ICH9
Southbridge and an ALC888 on address 0.

The somewhat similar GA-P35-DS3R has a P35 Northbridge, an ICH9R
Southbridge and an ALC889a on address 0.

The referenced Guide also works for the DS3R board and can be adapted
for several others, including G31, G41 and P45.

An AD1981HD codec is a whole 'nother codec, not even in the Realtek
family (it is Analog Devices).

If VoodooHDA doesn't work with it, I don't know what does.

[nestwasright]

On May 8, 8:48 am, Peter Haas <peterh...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On May 8, 2010, at 6:18 AM, nestwasright wrote:
>
> > From the audio dump, the card in this IBM
> > R60 is:AD1981HD. I have the audio dump if anyone wants to help.
>
> The GA-P35-DS3L guide (the Guide which was referenced in this thread)  
> was written for a GA-P35-DS3L. It has a P35 Northbridge, an ICH9  
> Southbridge and an ALC888 on address 0.
>
> The somewhat similar GA-P35-DS3R has a P35 Northbridge, an ICH9R  
> Southbridge and an ALC889a on address 0.
>
> The referenced Guide also works for the DS3R board and can be adapted  
> for several others, including G31, G41 and P45.
>
> An AD1981HD codec is a whole 'nother codec, not even in the Realtek  
> family (it is Analog Devices).
>
> If VoodooHDA doesn't work with it, I don't know what does.

Thanks for the input and clarification, Peter. VoodooHDA works, but to
a point. It does not have mic input and the volume is not as loud it
should. I'm thinking there's a version of the kext out there I'm yet
to get. If anyone here knows, and can direct me, that would be great.
Perhaps you've dealt with this particular soundcard before, or
VoodooHDA. Please help. I've spent 4 months on this one already. I
have the audio dump I could send anyone.

Thanks in advance!

[John Musbach]

On 5/9/10, nestwasright <nesta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On May 8, 8:48 am, Peter Haas <peterh...@cruzio.com> wrote:
>> On May 8, 2010, at 6:18 AM, nestwasright wrote:
>>
>> > From the audio dump, the card in this IBM
>> > R60 is:AD1981HD. I have the audio dump if anyone wants to help.
>>
>> The GA-P35-DS3L guide (the Guide which was referenced in this thread)
>> was written for a GA-P35-DS3L. It has a P35 Northbridge, an ICH9
>> Southbridge and an ALC888 on address 0.
>>
>> The somewhat similar GA-P35-DS3R has a P35 Northbridge, an ICH9R
>> Southbridge and an ALC889a on address 0.
>>
>> The referenced Guide also works for the DS3R board and can be adapted
>> for several others, including G31, G41 and P45.
>>
>> An AD1981HD codec is a whole 'nother codec, not even in the Realtek
>> family (it is Analog Devices).
>>
>> If VoodooHDA doesn't work with it, I don't know what does.
>
> Thanks for the input and clarification, Peter. VoodooHDA works, but to
> a point. It does not have mic input and the volume is not as loud it
> should. I'm thinking there's a version of the kext out there I'm yet
> to get. If anyone here knows, and can direct me, that would be great.
> Perhaps you've dealt with this particular soundcard before, or
> VoodooHDA. Please help. I've spent 4 months on this one already. I
> have the audio dump I could send anyone.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>

Check out http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=37756
and http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=90683. Those
will probably help you.

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[Peter Haas]

On May 9, 2010, at 8:02 AM, nestwasright wrote:

> If anyone here knows, and can direct me, that would be great.
> Perhaps you've dealt with this particular soundcard before, or
> VoodooHDA. Please help. I've spent 4 months on this one already. I
> have the audio dump I could send anyone.

Since you have the codec dump, presumably from Linux, have you tried
Taruga's AppleHDA patcher?

That's the way we did it before pre-patched AppleHDAs (as for the ALC
series) and VoodooHDA came out.

[alfa147x]

Thanks for the awesome write up

Quick question:

After I install the 10.6.3 combo update my hack never boots, it just
sits at a blue screen after the Apple logo screen :\
Right now I skipped that step and it works fine


Thanks for any help
Alfa147x

[Peter Haas]

On May 11, 2010, at 6:37 PM, alfa147x wrote:

> After I install the 10.6.3 combo update my hack never boots, it just
> sits at a blue screen after the Apple logo screen :\

Boot with -v (verbose) and report back where the hang-up is.

It is possible that the decrypter was not installed at all, or was
not installed properly.

[alfa147x]

Will do, downloading the update now

Thanks!

[alfa147x]

http://is.gd/c5cHi
http://is.gd/c5cI4

[Peter Haas]

On May 11, 2010, at 9:45 PM, alfa147x wrote:

> http://is.gd/c5cHi
> http://is.gd/c5cI4
>


These appear to be the classic case of VoodooHDA panicking the machine.

Did you remember to remove AppleHDA.kext?

If not, try that, using a backup system to do the removal.

If so, then yours may be one of the several cases where VoodooHDA
won't work.

[alfa147x]

Hmm I did remove (just delete right?) the AppleHDA. Tomorrow I'll try
it again

What if I ran the update before running the GA-P35-DS3L installer
package?

[alfa147x]

Here:

[John Musbach]

On 5/12/10, alfa147x <alfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here:
>

???

--
Best Regards,

John Musbach

[alfa147x]

Sorry I was having issues with posting links from Image Shack

On May 12, 11:30 am, John Musbach <johnmusba...@gmail.com> wrote:

[mosslack]

On May 12, 2010, at 1:34 AM, alfa147x wrote:

Hmm I did remove (just delete right?) the AppleHDA. Tomorrow I'll try
it again

What if I ran the update before running the GA-P35-DS3L installer
package?

If VoodooHDA is indeed the problem, then installing the files before or after the update will make no difference.  The installer just makes the hard drive bootable and installs the general system files into the /Extra folder.  

I got the impression from reading your post that you had not yet installed VoodooHDA and if this was the case then it could hardly cause this problem.  AFAIK, the system should boot from the flash drive with 10.6.3 the same as it does with 10.6.0 provided the installer has not been run.  Even if the installer has been run, the only file that might possibly cause a problem is the SleepEnabler.kext which is located in the /Extra/Extensions folder.  I will take a better look at your screen shot to see if I can figure out what went wrong.

Just a message from mosslack...

http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a <+> Email home for the Hackintosh community

Successful Hacks (so far):

GA-945GCMX-S2 - GA-P35-DS3L-V2 - MSI Wind PC - GA-EP45-UD3P - MSI Saturn 945 - ASRock 945GCM-S - OCZ Neutrino - GA-G31M-ES2L - HP Mini 311 - Asus 1201N - GA-G41M-ES2L

[mosslack]

On May 12, 2010, at 1:34 AM, alfa147x wrote:

Hmm I did remove (just delete right?) the AppleHDA. Tomorrow I'll try
it again

What if I ran the update before running the GA-P35-DS3L installer
package?

A couple of things I noticed.  You did install VoodooHDA as that is where the panic is, but also you need to be sure your BIOS is setup correctly.  IOW, I saw your serial port being setup, those should be disabled as well as the printer port in BIOS.  Also what kind of cards do you have in the system?  Please keep in mind when trying to debug someone's system from afar that such details can be important.  

Just a message from mosslack...

http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a <+> Email home for the Hackintosh community

Successful Hacks (so far):

GA-945GCMX-S2 - GA-P35-DS3L-V2 - MSI Wind PC - GA-EP45-UD3P - MSI Saturn 945 - ASRock 945GCM-S - OCZ Neutrino - GA-G31M-ES2L - HP Mini 311 - Asus 1201N - GA-G41M-ES2L

[Peter Haas]

On May 12, 2010, at 4:16 PM, mosslack wrote:

> A couple of things I noticed. You did install VoodooHDA as that is
> where the panic is, but also you need to be sure your BIOS is setup
> correctly. IOW, I saw your serial port being setup, those should
> be disabled as well as the printer port in BIOS. Also what kind of
> cards do you have in the system? Please keep in mind when trying
> to debug someone's system from afar that such details can be
> important.
>

It is usually impossible to completely disable the 16450 chip in most
Intel mobos. This is the serial port over which a modem can be
connected, if using an M$ or similar OS.

Now, the 16450 is again supported, for some mobos, when using a
special, custom BIOS.

But, yes, the correct action on most Hacks, is to disable every port
which isn't actually supported by OSx86, certainly including the
16450 serial chip, but also the OS/2 stuff as well.

In my DSDTs, I have left the 16450 stuff mainly because it is so east
to disable this ports in the BIOS.

I believe the 16450 is actually part of the specification for the
various ICHes of Intel.

No Mac actually supports that serial port, until the most recent
super-hacked Gigabyte BIOSes of Cartri.

[Mark Sokolovsky]

I have a good question. If I buy a laptop with an intel 75 or i7 processor, will i be able to install the vanilla flavor of SL? I have a boot132 disk to boot from. Also, why doesn't SL or L boot from the newer intel atom processors? i've been trying for weeks to get L to boot on a intel atom netbook. (I only have a copy of Leopard, not SL)

--
 Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth.

[mosslack]

On May 12, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

I have a good question. If I buy a laptop with an intel 75 or i7 processor, will i be able to install the vanilla flavor of SL? I have a boot132 disk to boot from. Also, why doesn't SL or L boot from the newer intel atom processors? i've been trying for weeks to get L to boot on a intel atom netbook. (I only have a copy of Leopard, not SL)

--
 Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth.

Leo and SL will run fine on an Atom processor up to a point.  10.6.2 dropped support for the Atom processor so you need to run a patched kernel for anything above 10.6.1.  I had Leo running on my Neutrino and have upgraded it to SL now.  Plus I have it installed on my HP Mini 311 and Asus 1201N, all with Intel Atom CPU's.  You success may depend on which system you are trying to install it on, details please.

As for the laptop question, it's possible.  Peter has a fairly vanilla install running on his i3 H55 system now so it can be done.  Some boards are more receptive to this than others, so as always, YMMV.

Just a message from mosslack...

http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a <+> Email home for the Hackintosh community

Successful Hacks (so far):

GA-945GCMX-S2 - GA-P35-DS3L-V2 - MSI Wind PC - GA-EP45-UD3P - MSI Saturn 945 - ASRock 945GCM-S - OCZ Neutrino - GA-G31M-ES2L - HP Mini 311 - Asus 1201N - GA-G41M-ES2L

[alfa147x]

Yeah the idea of running the updater did not work out.

[alfa147x]

Will do I'll do and disable those in the BIOS
I'll post pictures of the BIOS settings in a little bit


Thanks a bunch guys for the help

[Peter Haas]

On May 12, 2010, at 6:55 PM, mosslack wrote:

> Peter has a fairly vanilla install running on his i3 H55 system now
> so it can be done.

My HQ-A thread on my experience with the i3 540 / GA-H55M-S2H tells
pretty much all.

10.6.3 is difficult on systems which are outside of the LGA 775 and
ICH7 through ICH10 arena.

The first problem is the required busratio=xx parameter at boot time.

The second problem is the support for non-P55s and non-i5s and i7s.

The modified bootloader handles both issues quite well.

tonymacx86's site has only a ISO-type installation program, not a
flash drive-type installation program.

However, the revised bootloader appears to handle almost everything
in the i3/i5/i7 family (and, by extension, the new Pentium D-C which
is actually in the i3 family, just not named so) and the P55 (first
choice) the H55M (second choice) or the X58 (third choice).

I have posted a DSDT for the i3 and the H55M.

I got it to work in less than 24 hours from time of purchase, so it
really isn't THAT hard to do.

Atoms remain a mixed bag.

Unless one has a Netbook, then one is going to have to deal with the
limitations of the installation programs, and that usually means
sticking with 10.5.6 or below, or 10.6.2 or below.

There are a few work-arounds available, but those usually sacrifice
performance and compatibility.

[Peter Haas]

On May 12, 2010, at 5:58 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

> Also, why doesn't SL or L boot from the newer intel atom processors?

Wrong processor family, although an Atom is otherwise completely
compatible with a Core 2 Solo (but with no Intel-64), and the Atom
330 is completely compatible with a Core 2 Duo (including Intel-64
and HT).

[alfa147x]

http://tiny.cc/re76e <- BIOS settings

Thanks a bunch again!

On May 12, 7:16 pm, mosslack <hackint...@embarqmail.com> wrote:

[alfa147x]

Well I just Installed 10.6 then ran the installer package then removed
SleepEnabler.kext and removed AppleHDA.kext then ran the 10.6.3
update

this time when I booted with -v it went through all the text then left
me at a black blue screen :(

[Jonathan Taufer]

test: I don't seem to have the ability to reply to these or they are
going somewhere else in the forum. If these are getting through could
someone confirm that they are seeing reply's on the "Ga-p35-ds3l
Guide" thread?

I've tried updating to bios f9, also tried formatting a second usb
drive guid journaled, installing nothing but the efi boot manager in
the "make usb bootable" package, and booting with it, only to
encounter yet again 100% hang on flashing cursor. (ctrl alt delete
doesn't even respond.)

Is this because i'm running the install file on a 10.4.11 powerbook?
None of the guides explicitly say i have to be on MY machine, or a
working 10.5 install. They just say a working mac...

[Jonathan Taufer]

I'm having a problem with the usb freezing at a blinking cursor on
boot.

1. Copied my snow leopard dmg to a powerbook OSX 10.4.11 and mounted
it.
2. Put my 8gb cruzer mini micro in windows, ran U3 Launcher uninstall
to get rid of the security junk.
3. Formated guid journaled
4. Restored mounted osx install image to usb drive
5. Ran Make USB flash drive bootable package
6. F12 to boot, choose usb, cursor flashes, usb drive blinks, system
freezes.

Technically I should just be able to install the make flash drive
bootable files to the usb stick alone and get the bootmgr right? (i
have osx expanded to a sata disk too)
Does it matter that my bios is F8?

On Apr 23, 6:35 pm, mosslack <hackint...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> For anyone interested, this guide has been updated to use VoodooHDA instead of AppleHDA for sound.  Plus the guide is for a new install directly to 10.6.3 with a section at the end which explains the procedure for updating from 10.6.2 to 10.6.3.  Your comments are welcome and appreciated.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a/web/install-guide-gigabyte-ga-p35...

>
> Just a message from mosslack...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a<+> Email home for the Hackintosh community
>
> Successful Hacks (so far):

> (1) GA-945GCMX-S2 = GA-P35-DS3L-V2 - MSI Wind PC - GA-EP45-UD3P - MSI Saturn 945 - ASRock 945GCM-S - OCZ Neutrino - GA-G31M-ES2L - HP Mini 311 - Asus 1201N - GA-G41M-ES2L

[Jonathan Taufer]

Test, i tired to post earlier but it wouldn't let me

On May 12, 11:25 pm, alfa147x <alfa1...@gmail.com> wrote:

[alfa147x]

I also tried using a 10.6.3 install disk and I got the same result :\

[mosslack]

On May 13, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Jonathan Taufer wrote:

> test: I don't seem to have the ability to reply to these or they are
> going somewhere else in the forum. If these are getting through could
> someone confirm that they are seeing reply's on the "Ga-p35-ds3l
> Guide" thread?

To those who find it difficult to post to the list, please keep in mind that members who have not posted before are on moderated status for a bit. I normally catch them and change the status after the first post, but I'm away on a family visit and so these actions may be somewhat delayed until I get back. Thanks for your understanding,

Just a message from mosslack...

PS This account has been updated now.

[Peter Haas]

On May 14, 2010, at 8:05 PM, mosslack wrote:

> To those who find it difficult to post to the list, please keep in
> mind that members who have not posted before are on moderated
> status for a bit. I normally catch them and change the status
> after the first post, but I'm away on a family visit and so these
> actions may be somewhat delayed until I get back. Thanks for your
> understanding,

While Doug is away, I review the moderated posts in his stead.

I do so on a frequent basis, and most posts get through quite
promptly, although a few which are obvious spam do not.

That's why we (HQ-A) have an owner (Doug) and a Manager (me).

Peter

[mosslack]

On May 15, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Peter Haas wrote:

>
> On May 14, 2010, at 8:05 PM, mosslack wrote:
>
>> To those who find it difficult to post to the list, please keep in mind that members who have not posted before are on moderated status for a bit. I normally catch them and change the status after the first post, but I'm away on a family visit and so these actions may be somewhat delayed until I get back. Thanks for your understanding,
>
> While Doug is away, I review the moderated posts in his stead.
>
> I do so on a frequent basis, and most posts get through quite promptly, although a few which are obvious spam do not.
>
> That's why we (HQ-A) have an owner (Doug) and a Manager (me).
>
> Peter

Actually, Peter does this on a daily basis, for which I am grateful, But I am generally the one who changes the status of a member from moderated to unmoderated, and I usually do this whenever I log on and see that a new member has made a post which is not spam. This may take a while longer in some cases when I am away from the list for an extended period of time.

All of this just in the way of an explanation of why it sometimes takes longer for some posts to actually make it to the list. Peter has a life and I don't suspect for a moment that he sits at home and just waits for people to post messages to HQ-A. Should the time arrive that we have a more regular posting pattern, I will assign at least one more manager to assist Peter and I in these duties so that there will be no more delays.

Just a message from mosslack...

[alfa147x]

Well guys I just got moved into my new apt so another shot at 10.6.3
tomorrow

Wish me luck!

[Jonathan Taufer]

Sorry didn't realize that moderated status meant my posts wouldn't
show up. I thought I was having some sort of error.

Well, I solved my problem. You can't used these guides on a 10.4.11
machine (my powerbook). I tried a vmware install of 10.5.2 and it
fixed the usb boot problem. Then just to double check I upgraded my
powerbook from 10.4.11 to retail 10.5.6 and tested the usb installer
again and it created a bootable one with no problems.

[Jonathan Taufer]

Another question though, can anyone verify what version dsdt is in
this installer or is there a program I can use to open the dsdt's and
compare them???

Currently I'm looking at the dsdt from this thread which appears to be
the best available one out there right now, However I don't know if
the fact that It was created out of bios f6 matters or not.

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=192518

[Peter Haas]

On May 17, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Jonathan Taufer wrote:

> Another question though, can anyone verify what version dsdt is in
> this installer or is there a program I can use to open the dsdt's and
> compare them???

Download DSDTSE and utilize its "compare" function.

DSDTSE is an all-purpose tool.

It can grab the DSDT from your machine's BIOS.

You can drag a compiled DSDT (an aml file) to it and edit it as text.

You can drag a text DSDT (a dsl file) to it and do the same.

Lots of hints for the "usual suspect" mods are built into it.

You can compile a DSDT and save both the dsl and aml files.

It's always good to have a number of known-good DSDTs to refer to,
particularly if you need a special device or method.

Its also a good idea to have a list of devices handy so you can use
the "search" feature to find the code associated with a particular
device. Many desktops use the same device addresses, but these can be
quite different on laptops.

The DSDTs which have been contributed to this Forum generally are for
Snow Leopard (as Snow pretty much requires a custom DSDT, if only for
the mandatory RTC fix), but those which I have contributed have been
Leo/Snow DSDTs.

I like to use custom DSDTs even on Leo as I want my audio and video
devices to be supported with the defaults kexts, if at all possible.

[Jonathan Taufer]

Thanks, This is awesome and concise info! I'm still new to this whole
dsdt thing, as it wasn't really a big deal last spring, so I'm kinda
trying to catch up on all the developments in the last 12 months.

[Peter Haas]

On May 17, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Jonathan Taufer wrote:

> Thanks, This is awesome and concise info!

Welcome!


A little known "feature" of DSDTSE is automatic reformatting into a
standard format.

A text-based DSDT file (a dsl file) can have all kinds of weird
(read: non-standard) formatting, yet still get by.

By compiling such a DSDT and then editing it again, this time
inputting the compiled DSDT file (the aml file), it is converted into
the standard format.

[Jonathan Taufer]

Well, I'm about to boot into my new system but the biggest thing i'm
worried about is the difference between this installer and this one
here:
http://osx86.sojugarden.com/installer/


Does the installer from our site use efi 10.5 instead of chameleon 2
rc4? I don't even know if i'm asking a question that makes sense, lol.


I noticed there installer doesn't have a dsdt, however thier faksmc is
version 2.1 from nov 09 instead of our 1.0 from sept 09. How much of a
difference is this?

[Peter Haas]

On May 17, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Jonathan Taufer wrote:

> Well, I'm about to boot into my new system but the biggest thing i'm
> worried about is the difference between this installer and this one
> here:
> http://osx86.sojugarden.com/installer/

Every "installer" appears to have reinvented the very same wheel.

No one installer is really that much better than another. Only YOU
can decide for sure.

The SLILS method (which see) is, I believe, the most flexible. But, I
developed that method, so perhaps I am biased.

I have utilized that method for many LGA 775-based processors, and
numerous mobos, including the "project giveaway" mobo, which have, at
least, a PCI-x 16x slot, and which have used that slot for a video
card known to be compatible with MacOS 10.5 and 10.6.

The SLILS method was originally developed for use with a great many
Gigabyte mobos, but I have since extended it for use with several
Shuttles which feature LGA 775.

My strong preference is for a P35 or P45 mobo, but G31 and G41 are
good, too.

[Jeff Hester]

I can also vouch for the SLILS method of Peter's. It's very good and
I've had much success using it.

-- Jeff

[Jonathan Taufer]

Is the SLILS method the one included in this very guide? I'm not even
sure what slils stands for.

> For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/hq-a?hl=en.

[Kris Tilford]

On May 17, 2010, at 3:18 PM, Jonathan Taufer wrote:

> Is the SLILS method the one included in this very guide? I'm not even
> sure what slils stands for.

<http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a/web/snow-leopard-installer-library-system-slils

[mosslack]

On May 17, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Jonathan Taufer wrote:

Another question though, can anyone verify what version dsdt is in
this installer or is there a program I can use to open the dsdt's and
compare them???

Currently I'm looking at the dsdt from this thread which appears to be
the best available one out there right now, However I don't know if
the fact that It was created out of bios f6 matters or not.

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=192518

On May 16, 11:51 pm, alfa147x <alfa1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Well guys I just got moved into my new apt so another shot at 10.6.3

tomorrow

Wish me luck!

The DSDT used in my DS3L guide is one I found on Insanely in another guide for the same system.  I'm not very big on making custom DSDT's (reinventing the same wheel as Peter put it), so if one exists that works I generally just use it.

Just a message from mosslack...

http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a <+> Email home for the Hackintosh community

Successful Hacks (so far):

GA-945GCMX-S2 - GA-P35-DS3L-V2 - MSI Wind PC - GA-EP45-UD3P - MSI Saturn 945 - ASRock 945GCM-S - OCZ Neutrino - GA-G31M-ES2L - HP Mini 311 - Asus 1201N - GA-G41M-ES2L

[mosslack]

On May 17, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Jonathan Taufer wrote:

Well, I'm about to boot into my new system but the biggest thing i'm
worried about is the difference between this installer and this one
here:
http://osx86.sojugarden.com/installer/

Really the bottom line is does it produce a working system.  If so then does it really matter if it is different?

Does the installer from our site use efi 10.5 instead of chameleon 2
rc4? I don't even know if i'm asking a question that makes sense, lol.

Yes, all of my installers use PC-EFI 10.5.  Mainly b/c that was the best available when they were written.

I noticed there installer doesn't have a dsdt, however thier faksmc is
version 2.1 from nov 09 instead of our 1.0 from sept 09. How much of a
difference is this?

Impossible to include a one size fits all DSDT.  Different boards require different DSDT's and their guide seems to be for PC's in general.

Just a message from mosslack...

http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a <+> Email home for the Hackintosh community

Successful Hacks (so far):

GA-945GCMX-S2 - GA-P35-DS3L-V2 - MSI Wind PC - GA-EP45-UD3P - MSI Saturn 945 - ASRock 945GCM-S - OCZ Neutrino - GA-G31M-ES2L - HP Mini 311 - Asus 1201N - GA-G41M-ES2L

[mosslack]

On May 17, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Peter Haas wrote:

On May 17, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Jonathan Taufer wrote:

Well, I'm about to boot into my new system but the biggest thing i'm

worried about is the difference between this installer and this one

here:

http://osx86.sojugarden.com/installer/

Every "installer" appears to have reinvented the very same wheel.

No one installer is really that much better than another. Only YOU can decide for sure.

The SLILS method (which see) is, I believe, the most flexible. But, I developed that method, so perhaps I am biased.

I have utilized that method for many LGA 775-based processors, and numerous mobos, including the "project giveaway" mobo, which have, at least, a PCI-x 16x slot, and which have used that slot for a video card known to be compatible with MacOS 10.5 and 10.6.

The SLILS method was originally developed for use with a great many Gigabyte mobos, but I have since extended it for use with several Shuttles which feature LGA 775.

My strong preference is for a P35 or P45 mobo, but G31 and G41 are good, too.

I believe Peter's system includes the DSDT for each of the various boards he has used his installer on. His system basically includes all the necessary files for all of the boards his installer will work for on the USB stick.  There really isn't much difference in his and mine except that his covers a number of system boards where mine is board specific.  They both pretty much work the same way however.

Just a message from mosslack...

http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a <+> Email home for the Hackintosh community

Successful Hacks (so far):

GA-945GCMX-S2 - GA-P35-DS3L-V2 - MSI Wind PC - GA-EP45-UD3P - MSI Saturn 945 - ASRock 945GCM-S - OCZ Neutrino - GA-G31M-ES2L - HP Mini 311 - Asus 1201N - GA-G41M-ES2L

[Kris Tilford]

On May 17, 2010, at 4:34 PM, mosslack wrote:

> The DSDT used in my DS3L guide is one I found on Insanely in another
> guide for the same system. I'm not very big on making custom DSDT's
> (reinventing the same wheel as Peter put it), so if one exists that
> works I generally just use it.

You've got to realize that each DSDT is custom for both the BIOS
version and the specific hardware that your hack has. This means that
if the person that compiled the DSDT was using a different BIOS it
won't be correct for yours, and many hacks that are the same identical
model name may have vastly different hardware configurations. The only
cases in which a downloaded, previously compiled DSDT file will work
correctly is one in which both the BIOS and hardware are EXACT matches.

That's not to say that these downloaded, previously compiled DSDT's
won't work, and they may be nearly identical to a "perfect" DSDT for
your specific BIOS & hardware configuration, it's just that you never
know how much they might vary and the consequences can be difficult to
troubleshoot. Unless you can confirm that a downloaded DSDT is an
EXACT match for your system, I'd lean heavily toward "reinventing the
wheel" since it's a "custom" wheel for each BIOS and hardware.

I learned this from experience when I downloaded a previously compiled
DSDT that was from an earlier BIOS version of the same laptop and had
many issues that completely disappeared when I extracted my own DSDT
and compiled it myself. If you can find an EXACT match, go for it, but
I'd say if you can't verify it's an EXACT match, be careful, it may
not be what you need.

[mosslack]

On May 17, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

On May 17, 2010, at 4:34 PM, mosslack wrote:

The DSDT used in my DS3L guide is one I found on Insanely in another guide for the same system.  I'm not very big on making custom DSDT's (reinventing the same wheel as Peter put it), so if one exists that works I generally just use it.

You've got to realize that each DSDT is custom for both the BIOS version and the specific hardware that your hack has. This means that if the person that compiled the DSDT was using a different BIOS it won't be correct for yours, and many hacks that are the same identical model name may have vastly different hardware configurations. The only cases in which a downloaded, previously compiled DSDT file will work correctly is one in which both the BIOS and hardware are EXACT matches.

That's not to say that these downloaded, previously compiled DSDT's won't work, and they may be nearly identical to a "perfect" DSDT for your specific BIOS & hardware configuration, it's just that you never know how much they might vary and the consequences can be difficult to troubleshoot. Unless you can confirm that a downloaded DSDT is an EXACT match for your system, I'd lean heavily toward "reinventing the wheel" since it's a "custom" wheel for each BIOS and hardware.

I learned this from experience when I downloaded a previously compiled DSDT that was from an earlier BIOS version of the same laptop and had many issues that completely disappeared when I extracted my own DSDT and compiled it myself. If you can find an EXACT match, go for it, but I'd say if you can't verify it's an EXACT match, be careful, it may not be what you need.

Exactly correct Kris.  The one in my guide is a match, that is why I used it.  The only thing which does not match is the video card, but now that is handled by PC-EFI anyway so the difference is purely cosmetic.  I usually go back and edit the DSDT to match my own card just b/c I like things to match.  

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[Peter Haas]

On May 17, 2010, at 2:52 PM, mosslack wrote:

> There really isn't much difference in his and mine except that his
> covers a number of system boards where mine is board specific.
> They both pretty much work the same way however.

Quite correct.

The Genesis was Doug's GA-P35-DS3L installer, but I extended it to
include the -DS3R (which I prefer over the -DS3L), and numerous
others, including -EP35-, -EP45-, and even -G31- and -G41-.

In every case, I provided a custom DSDT just for the specific mobo.

By supporting the Northbridge and the Southbridge largely in the
DSDT, I reduced the number of required kexts down to just four.

The SLILS concept, and Guide, came out of the realization that, with
much of the required support actually residing in the DSDT, all that
was left was a few changes to the "Make USB flash drive bootable" and
"Make hard drive bootable" packages, after which the customized USB
flash drive could be used for any number of identical systems, such
as each of my several P35 Shuttle Hacks.

The G41 "project box" was implemented using SLILS, and the the G31
Shuttle soon followed.

For Doug, the first application was the GA-P35-DS3L, as he said, but
for me the first was the Shuttle P35, a system which is not too
dissimilar from the GA-P35-DS3R.

The entire key to this flexibility is an LGA 775 processor (Pentium
Dual-Core, Celeron, Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad, etcetera), and a
Northbridge of the same family (G31, P35, G41, P45, etcetera) and a
Southbridge of the same family (ICH7, ICH9, ICH9R, ICH10, etcetera).

That covers a pretty wide install base, which is one of the main
advantages of SLILS.

[Peter Haas]

On May 17, 2010, at 2:43 PM, mosslack wrote:

> Impossible to include a one size fits all DSDT. Different boards
> require different DSDT's and their guide seems to be for PC's in
> general.
>

Indeed ... an impossibility.

However, Leopard will usually install correctly using the Boot132 CD
method, WITHOUT a DSDT, and after you get Leo up, you can use DSDTSE
to grab the DSDT from the BIOS, and then customize a DSDT which will
work for Leo AND for Snow.

This is how I bootstrapped most of my systems to Snow.

But, some of my systems are necessarily stuck with Leo, which is
actually OK as those are Atom 330s, and really don't have the
processing power, nor the RAM for Snow, anyway.

Besides, the "four kexts" approach which SLILS uses is NOT useful for
Atoms.