It's about time!
Juan
U.S. Limits Tarmac Waits for Passengers to 3 Hours
WASHINGTON — The federal government will impose big fines starting
this spring on airlines that keep passengers waiting on the tarmac too
long without feeding them or letting them off the plane.
Airlines that let a plane sit on the tarmac for more than two hours
without giving passengers food or water, or more than three hours
without offering them the option of getting off, will face fines of
$27,500 a passenger, the secretary of transportation announced on
Monday.
“This is President Obama’s Passenger Bill of Rights,” said the
secretary, Ray LaHood. Various proposals by that title have been
introduced in Congress in recent years, but none has passed.
The rule announced Monday, which takes effect in 120 days, has been in
the works since 2007, but was sped up by an incident on Aug. 7, when a
cramped regional jet flown by ExpressJet, flying as Continental
Express, sat on the tarmac at Rochester, Minn., overnight, with 47
passengers.
The flight had diverted to Rochester unexpectedly, while waiting for
the weather to clear at its intended destination, Minneapolis.
Continental Express does not have gates at Rochester, but an employee
of Mesaba Airlines, which does, told the Continental Express captain
that the passengers could not be let into the terminal because the
Transportation Security Administration screeners had gone home for the
night.
That was incorrect. In November, the Transportation Department ruled
that all three airlines were guilty of deceptive practices and
assessed a civil penalty of $175,000.
Under the new rule, the fine could have been $1.3 million, although
Mr. LaHood said that if returning to the terminal would cause a safety
problem or interfere with operations at the airport, airlines would
not be penalized.
While the Rochester case was an extreme example, the Transportation
Department said that for 2007 and 2008 there were an average of 1,500
flights a year, with 114,000 passengers, held on the tarmac for more
than three hours. Department officials said, though, that with a rule
in place, the number of such delays was certain to fall. Airlines
could comply by letting out any passenger who wanted to get off.
The airlines are generally reluctant to take an airplane back to the
terminal, because the plane then loses its place in line for takeoff
and must start again at the end.
Under the rule, the airlines will have to post on their Web sites
details about incidents that exceed the two- or three-hour limits. And
airplanes that do not carry any food will have to start carrying
snacks for emergencies, Mr. LaHood said.
“They’re going to have to have peanuts, pretzels on their regional
jets; they’re going to have to start stocking up,” he said.
The rule covers only domestic flights. Mr. LaHood said the incidence
of such delays on international flights was lower and that those
delays were caused by overseas air traffic controllers and other
problems less in the control of airlines. But, he said, the rule might
be extended to cover international travel.
Mitchell Holman
@g26g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:
> December 22, 2009
> U.S. Limits Tarmac Waits for Passengers to 3 Hours
>
> WASHINGTON � The federal government will impose big fines starting
> this spring on airlines that keep passengers waiting on the tarmac too
> long without feeding them or letting them off the plane.
>
> Airlines that let a plane sit on the tarmac for more than two hours
> without giving passengers food or water, or more than three hours
> without offering them the option of getting off, will face fines of
> $27,500 a passenger, the secretary of transportation announced on
> Monday.
>
Watch this space for the rightwing rant about
"government interference" and the airlines "right" to
hold passengers hostage on a hot tarmac for hours......
Al
Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
A lot of these delays are due to weather, which is ultimately the
government's responsibility.
Mitchell Holman
news:albert.finney000-C7...@news-wc.giganews.com:
Leave it for a conservative to blame the government
for the weather.
But only when the Democrats are in power, of course.....
Al
Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
I don't blame them for the weather, I blame them for not properly
regulating the climate, and that's a slam at Bush if anyone.
If he had signed Kyoto, all the planes would run on time.
ChairMan
Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>spewed forth:
And don't forget, there would never have been Katrina, either
The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead
"ChairMan" <wh...@fu.com> wrote in message
news:hSYYm.134785$gA5....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
> In news:albert.finney000-08...@news-wc.giganews.com,
> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>spewed forth:
>> In article <Xns9CEBE5F52B28n...@216.196.97.130>,
>> Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:albert.finney000-C7...@news-wc.giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> In article <Xns9CE9D9E5EC021...@216.196.97.130>,
>>>> Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Juan <fly...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:f2123bf9-84e3-4726-8045-46bd6094df64
>>>>> @g26g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> December 22, 2009
>>>>>> U.S. Limits Tarmac Waits for Passengers to 3 Hours
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this spring on airlines that keep passengers waiting on the tarmac
>>>>>> too long without feeding them or letting them off the plane.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Airlines that let a plane sit on the tarmac for more than two
>>>>>> hours without giving passengers food or water, or more than three
>>>>>> hours without offering them the option of getting off, will face
>>>>>> fines of $27,500 a passenger, the secretary of transportation
>>>>>> announced on Monday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Watch this space for the rightwing rant about
>>>>> "government interference" and the airlines "right" to
>>>>> hold passengers hostage on a hot tarmac for hours......
>>>>
>>>> A lot of these delays are due to weather, which is ultimately the
>>>> government's responsibility.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Leave it for a conservative to blame the government
>>> for the weather.
>>
>> I don't blame them for the weather, I blame them for not properly
>> regulating the climate, and that's a slam at Bush if anyone.
>>
>> If he had signed Kyoto, all the planes would run on time.
>
> And don't forget, there would never have been Katrina, either
>
And all the conservaloons would be extinct.
Al
"ChairMan" <wh...@fu.com> wrote:
No, Katrina was a planned event, in order to flush the area and turn LA
republican.
They'll never find the mass graves.
Mitchell Holman
It sent thousands of minority voters into Texas, which
has been electing more Democrats every year.
Al
Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
We'll have our hurricane soon.
There is pattern though. People flee the progressive failures, often to
ares more conservative. As you point out, many do not learn from the
experience, and set out to re-create the disaster.
The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead
"Al" <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:albert.finney000-C6...@news-wc.giganews.com...
> In article <Xns9CEC7918C928E...@216.196.97.130>,
> Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in news:albert.finney000-
>> AEFEFC.105...@news-wc.giganews.com:
>>
>> > In article <hSYYm.134785$gA5....@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>> > "ChairMan" <wh...@fu.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> In news:albert.finney000-08...@news-wc.giganews.com,
>> >> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>spewed forth:
>> >> > In article <Xns9CEBE5F52B28n...@216.196.97.130>,
>> >> > Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >> news:albert.finney000-C7...@news-wc.giganews.com:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> In article <Xns9CE9D9E5EC021...@216.196.97.130>,
>> >> >>> Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Juan <fly...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >>>> news:f2123bf9-84e3-4726-8045-46bd6094df64
>> >> >>>> @g26g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> December 22, 2009
>> >> >>>>> U.S. Limits Tarmac Waits for Passengers to 3 Hours
>> >> >>>>>
Quit smoking crack, Ivan.
Al
ChairMan
they don't need to, they already know it's all bushies fault
Al
"ChairMan" <wh...@fu.com> wrote:
Poor guy just follows the herd and does what he's told.
California, Michigan and NY are full of 'em.
Jamir Quay
> December
How's the divorce coming , fatboi?
http://www.itpreport.com/upload/Juan_Jimenez_200x150.jpg
Sheehs, even a Polack dumped your lard ass...
The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead
just as you all know it's none of Bushshit's fault, hippostupid.
Mitchell Holman
news:albert.finney000-C6...@news-wc.giganews.com:
That is why American conservatives are fleeing to
regulation-free countries like Sudan and Haiti.
Right.........................
Jamir Quay
> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:albert.finney000-C6...@news-wc.giganews.com:
>
>> In article <Xns9CEC7918C928E...@216.196.97.130>,
>> Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in news:albert.finney000-
>>> AEFEFC.105...@news-wc.giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> In article <hSYYm.134785$gA5....@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>>>> "ChairMan" <wh...@fu.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In
>>>>> news:albert.finney000-08...@news-wc.giganews.com,
>>>>> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>spewed forth:
>>>>>> In article <Xns9CEBE5F52B28n...@216.196.97.130>,
>>>>>> Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:albert.finney000-C7...@news-wc.giganews.com
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <Xns9CE9D9E5EC021...@216.196.97.130>,
>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Juan <fly...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:f2123bf9-84e3-4726-8045-46bd6094df64
>>>>>>>>> @g26g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> December 22, 2009
>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Limits Tarmac Waits for Passengers to 3 Hours
>>>>>>>>>>
Shut your senile old yap Mitchy, you spleeny faggot.
Al
Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
No, not actually, you're just upset that you can't counter the fact that
these liberal valhallas are unsustainable and FAILING.
Every tine the proof emerges that liberal socialism is a loser, the
bitter clingers try and change the subject. If you aren;t for socialism
and EU-style uber-regulatory control of every facet of life, you're an
ANARCHIST headed for Sudan.
The usual load of shit.
Al
Jamir Quay <s...@00.ter> wrote:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > news:albert.finney000-C6...@news-wc.giganews.com:
> >
> >> In article <Xns9CEC7918C928E...@216.196.97.130>,
> >> Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in news:albert.finney000-
> >>> AEFEFC.105...@news-wc.giganews.com:
> >>>
> >>>> In article <hSYYm.134785$gA5....@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> >>>> "ChairMan" <wh...@fu.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In
> >>>>> news:albert.finney000-08...@news-wc.giganews.com,
> >>>>> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>spewed forth:
> >>>>>> In article <Xns9CEBE5F52B28n...@216.196.97.130>,
> >>>>>> Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>> news:albert.finney000-C7...@news-wc.giganews.com
> >>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In article <Xns9CE9D9E5EC021...@216.196.97.130>,
> >>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Juan <fly...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>>>> news:f2123bf9-84e3-4726-8045-46bd6094df64
> >>>>>>>>> @g26g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> December 22, 2009
> >>>>>>>>>> U.S. Limits Tarmac Waits for Passengers to 3 Hours
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> WASHINGTON � The federal government will impose big fines
I disagree, he is very amusing.
Mitchell Holman
news:albert.finney000-09...@news-wc.giganews.com:
You mean like the "failing" countries of northern
Europe and Japan, whose socialism has created the highest
standards of living in the world?
> Every tine the proof emerges that liberal socialism is a loser, the
> bitter clingers try and change the subject. If you aren;t for
> socialism and EU-style uber-regulatory control of every facet of life,
> you're an ANARCHIST headed for Sudan.
Name a capitalist "regulation free" country you think
is a success.
Al
Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
You mean the ones grappling with the unsustainable costs?
Like Nebraska, and Massachussetts and California and the UK and Vermont
and Just About Anywhere the liberal establishment has run the tittie dry?
I've LIVED in these places. I have family in those places, we've
WITNESSED the decline and striation over the decades.
> > Every tine the proof emerges that liberal socialism is a loser, the
> > bitter clingers try and change the subject. If you aren;t for
> > socialism and EU-style uber-regulatory control of every facet of life,
> > you're an ANARCHIST headed for Sudan.
>
>
> Name a capitalist "regulation free" country you think
> is a success.
I think it's called Reductio Ad Absurdum, I'm not quite sure where it's
located.
Mitchell Holman
news:albert.finney000-19...@news-wc.giganews.com:
> In article <Xns9CF18B559C922...@216.196.97.130>,
> Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:albert.finney000-09...@news-wc.giganews.com:
>>
>> > In article <Xns9CF0C4C5FE935...@216.196.97.130>,
>> > Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> news:albert.finney000-C6...@news-wc.giganews.com:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <Xns9CEC7918C928E...@216.196.97.130>,
>> >> > Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in news:albert.finney000-
>> >> >> AEFEFC.105...@news-wc.giganews.com:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> > <hSYYm.134785$gA5....@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>> >> >> > "ChairMan" <wh...@fu.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> In
>> >> >> >> news:albert.finney000-08...@news-wc.giganews.
>> >> >> >> com , Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>spewed forth:
>> >> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> >> > <Xns9CEBE5F52B28n...@216.196.97.130>,
>> >> >> >> > Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> news:albert.finney000-C7...@news-wc.gigane
>> >> >> >> >> ws. com
The top ten standard of living countries:
Norway 0.971
Australia 0.970
Iceland 0.969
Canada 0.966
Ireland 0.965
Netherlands 0.964
Sweden 0.963
France 0.961
Switzerland 0.960
Japan 0.960
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index
"Socialist hellholes", you say?
>
>> > Every tine the proof emerges that liberal socialism is a loser, the
>> > bitter clingers try and change the subject. If you aren;t for
>> > socialism and EU-style uber-regulatory control of every facet of
>> > life, you're an ANARCHIST headed for Sudan.
>>
>>
>> Name a capitalist "regulation free" country you think
>> is a success.
>
> I think it's called Reductio Ad Absurdum, I'm not quite sure where
> it's located.
It is in the vacuum between your ears.
Al
Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
Hey, you left out california. The shining city on a hill, so to speak.
Study the demo of these "socialist" nations, and see how sustainable the
entitlement monies are, then apply this to a large, diverse county like
the US with its large illegal population, etc, and see just how we can
become just like France!!
While they're trying to become more like the conservative us. Go figger.
Or, look at our states, which reflect the American demographic much more
accurately than Norway. Our wise left does not us to become Norway, they
want us to become California.
And the way things are going, we'll get there sooner rather than later.
Great job, Obama!
Mitchell Holman
news:albert.finney000-52...@news-wc.giganews.com:
> In article <Xns9CF1F14227217...@216.196.97.130>,
> Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:albert.finney000-19...@news-wc.giganews.com:
>>
>> > In article <Xns9CF18B559C922...@216.196.97.130>,
>> > Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> news:albert.finney000-09...@news-wc.giganews.com:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <Xns9CF0C4C5FE935...@216.196.97.130>,
>> >> > Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >> news:albert.finney000-C6...@news-wc.giganews.com
>> >> >> :
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> > <Xns9CEC7918C928E...@216.196.97.130>,
>> >> >> > Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> news:albert.finney000-
>> >> >> >> AEFEFC.105...@news-wc.giganews.com:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> >> > <hSYYm.134785$gA5....@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>> >> >> >> > "ChairMan" <wh...@fu.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> In
>> >> >> >> >> news:albert.finney000-08...@news-wc.gigane
>> >> >> >> >> ws. com , Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>spewed forth:
>> >> >> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> >> >> > <Xns9CEBE5F52B28n...@216.196.97.130>,
>> >> >> >> >> > Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> >> news:albert.finney000-C7...@news-wc.gig
>> >> >> >> >> >> ane ws. com
And you left out any capitalist country you
would prefer to live in.
The shining city on a hill, so to speak.
>
> Study the demo of these "socialist" nations, and see how sustainable
> the entitlement monies are, then apply this to a large, diverse county
> like the US with its large illegal population, etc, and see just how
> we can become just like France!!
So what capitalist country do you like the most?
>
> While they're trying to become more like the conservative us. Go
> figger.
Name for us the regulation-free paradise you prefer.
>
> Or, look at our states, which reflect the American demographic much
> more accurately than Norway. Our wise left does not us to become
> Norway, they want us to become California.
>
> And the way things are going, we'll get there sooner rather than
> later. Great job, Obama!
>
New poll finds Obama has already rebuilt America's global brand
Christian Science Monitor
Oct 6 2009
Step aside, Germany and France. There's a new brand
leader among world powers. Who? The good old US of A
- according to a new poll - thanks to the global
popularity of President Barack Obama.
The Anholt-GfK Roper Nation Brands Index (NBI) survey
on which countries are most admired and appreciated
around the world has been conducted annually since
2005. This year the US topped the list for the first
time, climbing six spots.
According to survey designer Simon Anholt President
Obama, whatever his trials at home, has been well-
received internationally since his election and changed
the image of the US from one that dictates to one that
consults. "What's really remarkable is that in all my
years studying national reputation, I have never seen
any country experience such a dramatic change in its
standing as we see for the United States in 2009,"
Mr. Anholt said in a press release on the survey.
"The results suggest that the new US administration
has been well received abroad and the American
electorate's decision to vote in President Obama
has given the United States the status of the world's
most admired country."
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2009/1006/new-poll-finds-
obama-has-already-rebuilt-americas-global-brand
American is once again respected and admired
across the globe. Aren't you proud of that?
Al
Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
Oh goody.
Now, when does he *get something* other than "no" from all these people
who now love us?
World leaders, most especially those in competition or disagreement,
love the hell out of Obama. They know what more of his followers are
finding out.
He's a rube.
Of course they love him.
Mitchell Holman
news:albert.finney000-A1...@news-wc.giganews.com:
>> >> >> >> >> >> ane ws. com , Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>spewed
>> >> >> >> >> >> forth:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> >> >> >> > <Xns9CEBE5F52B28n...@216.196.97.130>,
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:albert.finney000-C73805.21325123122009@news-wc.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> gig ane ws. com
<crickets>
>>
>>
>> The shining city on a hill, so to speak.
>> >
>> > Study the demo of these "socialist" nations, and see how
>> > sustainable the entitlement monies are, then apply this to a large,
>> > diverse county like the US with its large illegal population, etc,
>> > and see just how we can become just like France!!
>>
>>
>> So what capitalist country do you like the most?
>>
>>
<crickets>
>> >
>> > While they're trying to become more like the conservative us. Go
>> > figger.
>>
>>
>> Name for us the regulation-free paradise you prefer.
>>
<crickets>
Al
Mitchell Holman <noemai...@comcast.net> wrote:
The crickets thought it was a worthless question, I guess.
> >> > While they're trying to become more like the conservative us. Go
> >> > figger.
> >>
> >>
> >> Name for us the regulation-free paradise you prefer.
> >>
>
>
> <crickets>
The crickets do not approach debate from a false-choice, utopian
baseline which puts them in the position of choosing between realities
which simply do not exist.
But if you really need an answer, the crickets agree that Spiderman
sucks.