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mikerowe81  
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From: mikerowe81 <mikerow...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:18:12 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 25 2008 11:18 pm
Subject: Google, Pornography, and Children?
First of all let me say that I love Google Apps. It has been great for
our school. While it is not perfect, Google is providing a great
service to the educational market and others.

A particular area that I am greatly concerned about and I think needs
to be addressed as quickly as possible is the custom content that
users can add to the start page. Some of this content is just flat out
pornographic. It's bad enough that I see that junk as I'm browsing,
but even more so the fact that kids have easy access to this content.

If you agree that Google needs to address this issue quickly, post
your comment or idea of how Google can fix it.

Thank you Google for hearing our concern.


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jb33  
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(1 user)  More options Apr 26 2008, 1:04 am
From: jb33 <josh.bernard...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:04:15 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Apr 26 2008 1:04 am
Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
I second that and would like to add the same issue presents itself
with youtube where there is a fair amount of highly relevant cultural
and educational content spoiled by the majority of the content. Right
around the time of the CNN Youtube Debates, "Britney Spears Vagina
Never Stops" was the number one most popular video. Could Google also
consider an education friendly video site?

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 More options Apr 28 2008, 9:59 am
From: g8keeper <matt.al...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:59:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 28 2008 9:59 am
Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
This is huge. If google is serious about going after the k12 education
market, they are going to need to fix this problem. Have they
addressed "Add Stuff" somewhere else and I am just missing it?

I was about to implement the google apps system in my district, but
then I read this post and researched the start page. It is now the
only hold up with deployment. I don't want to waste time building a
web page that has half the function of the google start page. I just
won't use the system.

Hello? Google?

I hope it is solved. I LOVE the apps system.


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Nick Thomas  
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 More options Apr 28 2008, 11:21 am
From: Nick Thomas <nicholas.a.tho...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:21:06 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 28 2008 11:21 am
Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
I represent a 150-person organization and would like to bump the
concern. We have disabled the feature until it is fixed.

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g8keeper  
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 More options Apr 28 2008, 1:16 pm
From: g8keeper <matt.al...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:16:34 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 28 2008 1:16 pm
Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
My district has the ability to block where the content is coming from,
but why do I want to spend the next 2 years tracing the content
originator and blocking as it comes up..... which is a lawsuit waiting
to happen. As it stands, about 1/3 of all the modules with "bad"
content are already blocked.

I also believe that content can be added even if the "Add Stuff" link
is gone, it is still possible to add stuff.

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jb33  
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 More options Apr 28 2008, 4:45 pm
From: jb33 <josh.bernard...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:45:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
Please call Google Tech support if you are an education or premier
customer concerned about this. For contact details go to Manage this
Domain, Domain Settings, Account details. When you call support, use
option 3, service not working.

(Someone please post in the other thread that started this one if I
have not already. I can't seem to find it.)
jb

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hucktunes  
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 More options Apr 28 2008, 5:05 pm
From: hucktunes <bob.h...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:05:56 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 28 2008 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
For the time being disabling the start page is the best option.

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FrankM  
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(1 user)  More options Apr 28 2008, 5:25 pm
From: FrankM <Frank.M...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:25:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 28 2008 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
I do believe it is the responsibility of the organizations to comply
with COPPA - Children's Online Privacy Protection and CIPA -
Children's Internet Protection Act. And if your school is using E-rate
discounted Internet services, CIPA compliance is a must, if I recall.

So if the services Google offers does not meet your needs at this
time, the correct answer was to not use them.

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jb33  
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(1 user)  More options Apr 28 2008, 5:41 pm
From: jb33 <josh.bernard...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:41:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 28 2008 5:41 pm
Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
We're talking lingerie and bikini models so we're all probably within
compliance. The material is still innapropriate for kids. And this
category of content was not available, or not so prominent when I set
up my start page in the fall. I am disabling my startpage, which is a
total hassle to redirect everyone to new URLs for email and google
docs. But I'd like to challenge google: it's a little bit evil to put
these images in front of kids in school.

I think a company might even get sued for a hostile workplace in a
scenario where an employee complained the images made her
uncomfortable and the admins did not disable the startpage.

I'd like to be able to use the start page and I'm trying to humbly ask
google to "fix" this issue.

thanks,
jb

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hucktunes  
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 More options Apr 28 2008, 6:09 pm
From: hucktunes <bob.h...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:09:54 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 28 2008 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
I think the widget in question is Met-Art.com girl of the day. I don't
see any bikinis or lingerie on those girls right now. They are totally
nekkid.

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jb33  
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(1 user)  More options Apr 28 2008, 7:18 pm
From: jb33 <josh.bernard...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:18:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 28 2008 7:18 pm
Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
hmm. that doesn't show up unless i search for it. perverts ;)

but to be clear, and in case google does do something, I also think
the scantily clad gadgets are innapropriate for schools.

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Google Apps Advisor Mark Google employee  
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(1 user)  More options Apr 28 2008, 7:50 pm
From: Google Apps Advisor Mark <advisor.m...@google.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:50:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 28 2008 7:50 pm
Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
Hi Everyone,

We recognize the importance of this issue. We are currently working on
a solution, and will post updates as soon as they are available. In
the meantime, the best option to prevent access to the gadgets is to
disable the start page by removing the service in your Google Apps
Dashboard and unpublishing your published page.

For directions to remove the service, please visit
http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=45691

For directions to un-publish your published start page, please visit
http://google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=45478

Thanks for your patience,

The Google Apps Advisors

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mikerowe81  
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 More options Apr 28 2008, 8:36 pm
From: mikerowe81 <mikerow...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:36:36 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 28 2008 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
Mark,

Thanks for letting us know that Google is working on this. We all
appreciate Google's quick response to this issue. We are looking
forward to the solution you all will provide. Be sure to tell the
Google Apps team thanks for all their hard work.

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 More options Apr 28 2008, 8:48 pm
From: jb33 <josh.bernard...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:48:44 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
Thanks Mark!

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g8keeper  
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 More options Apr 29 2008, 9:32 am
From: g8keeper <matt.al...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:32:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 29 2008 9:32 am
Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
WOOOOHOOOOO!!!! Can't wait for the fix!

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 More options Apr 30 2008, 5:36 pm
From: Matt <mattah...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:36:29 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
That is great news. What type of time frame are you looking at? Right
now I am about to begin a deployment company wide, but will hold off
if this will be fixed soon.

Matt

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g8keeper  
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 More options May 12 2008, 11:49 am
From: g8keeper <matt.al...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:49:34 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 12 2008 11:49 am
Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
What's our time frame?
hour, week, month, year, decade?

I am ready to deploy for my school district staff of about 200. If it
works well, we will add our student body of about 800 next school
year, BUT I won't be deploying anything if the start page isn't fixed.

I need to plan accordingly.

Thanks!

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Dana  
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 More options May 12 2008, 2:27 pm
From: Dana <dana.p...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 11:27:49 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
I'm also curious about the estimated date when this will be 'fixed'.
I'm looking to roll GApps out over the summer to have it ready for the
start of school.  I understand the workaround by disabling the Start
page, but with a new implementation the Start page is a wonderful tool
for people to begin with - showing them their mail and docs.

Thanks for your work on this!


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jeanie.schwenk@gmail.com  
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 More options May 13 2008, 1:25 am
From: "jeanie.schw...@gmail.com" <jeanie.schw...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 22:25:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, May 13 2008 1:25 am
Subject: Re: Google, Pornography, and Children?
We just migrated our church over to Google Education account and I was
SHOCKED when the bookkeeper and the secretary brought to my attention
(on the first day with the new system) what they found when going to
the "add stuff" link.  I agree with all the other comments that have
been made.  We just gave them this over the weekend and this happens
on the first day!?  And now we need to take away the start page to
remove the offending images?  This is not good.  So, what is the
priority on this?  Can we see any official documentation on what's
being done about it and have a timeline to go with it?

Thank you for your attention to this issue.

Jeanie

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