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 More options Mar 7 2007, 8:13 pm
From: "luter" <ast...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 01:13:28 -0000
Local: Wed, Mar 7 2007 8:13 pm
Subject: Re: Email migration tools
so i think i've figured out a way to use gmail's current tools to
migrate gmail emails to a google apps email account.

you will need a separate gmail account that has the ability to
download mail using pop3.  we'll call this account gmail2 and gmail1
will be the account you want to get all the emails from, and we'll
call the google apps account ga.  hope this isn't too confusing.

1.  setup filters and labels on ga account so that as incoming emails
are labeled appropriately.  (my ga account matched my gmail1 account,
both in filters and labels)
2.  under settings for gmail1, click the tab for forwarding and pop,
then click the button to enable POP for all mail (even mail that's
already been downloaded).
3.  under settings for gmail2, click the tab for forwarding and pop,
then set the forwarding address to that of your ga account.
4.  still on gmail2, click on the tab for accounts, then click add
another account.  this is only available if you have the following
section: get mail from other accounts:
(download mail using POP3).
5.  enter in your gmail1 address, click next step.
6.  enter complete gmail1 username, usern...@gmail.com, and your
gmail1 password.
7.  ***here's the key step***  for the pop server, set to other and
enter pop.yourdomain.com and leave the port set to 995. (you will need
to set a CNAME up for your domain..  pop.yourdomain.com to point to
pop.gmail.com)
8.  then click add account.. give it a few minutes and before too long
you'll have a few hundred emails in your ga account.

please note:  this tricks gmail to think that it is not fetching from
a gmail account, cause gmail won't fetch from a gmail account.  also,
some emails will wind up in the spam of gmail2.  out of just over 500
messages that have been fetched from my gmail1 account, 2 have wound
up in the spam folder.

if i've got this all wrong.... let me know.. but it seems to work for
me.

On Mar 7, 10:51 am, schultzter wrote:

> Google Apps Email _is_ GMail!!!

> So far the only thing I have found different is that GMail can fetch
> from other providers using POP3 but GAFYD Mail cannot.

> Schultzter -www.schultzter.ca

> On Mar 6, 2:19 pm, ber18 wrote:

> > It was interesting to look at this thread that is 100% in my question.
> > If I use Google apps, to avoid the 2GB limit, which I am very close to
> > reach, I will not be able to merge both mailbox.
> > At least with Microsoft there is a solution to move Outlook express
> > messages to Outlook!
> > What I don't know is if the Google Apps email layout and features is
> > the same as Gmail.
> > Does anyone know the response?
> > Thanks

> > On 6 mar, 17:18, philsross wrote:

> > > You canmigrateyour mail already using various unofficial methods
> > > (eg.http://pier.fumagalli.org/uploaded_files/gmailupload.py).

> > > I've done some testing and it seems to work ok.  The problem is that:

> > > * Google may limit incoming mail volumes to a Premier domain (can
> > > anyone confirm?) so that makes for a slow migration..
> > > * The date stamp on the email is correct, but the date that is shown
> > > in the main screen is when it was received, not when it was dated.
> > > This means all your old emails from your legacy system show up as
> > > recent emails in google.

> > > So yes, we really do need an email migration tool..

> > > On Mar 5, 9:56 pm, patriiiiiiiiiick wrote:

> > > > I see two options:

> > > > - Google provide the POP feature to all Google Apps (Premier?) mail
> > > > accounts. While this might cause a relatively (to Google's
> > > > infrastructure) high strain on their servers, it's a very simple
> > > > solution which will at least work for all gmail users.

> > > > - They provide a dedicated tool for this migration which will be able
> > > > tomigratedifferent mailboxes formats.

> > > > But whatever these options are, will any of them be available before
> > > > the end of the trial period? I must admit I have some suspicions
> > > > there...

> > > > Personally, I would be using Google Apps only for my family and the US
> > > > $50 is a very high price tag for this usage and spending this only for
> > > > the migration is out of the question. Mainly when I see that there is
> > > > this easy POP "solution" nearby... (I put solution between quotes
> > > > because I realise it's not a full featured migration but it would be
> > > > useful already for many users)

> > > > Should Google decide on an intermediary plan for families and the like
> > > > which would be cheaper and without the top notch features (no 99.9%
> > > > availability, no 24/7 assistance, ...) that might be a good deal for
> > > > me.

> > > > Patrick

> > > > On Feb 24, 9:54 pm, Reliablehosting.com wrote:

> > > > > Maybe they are working on it,  I hope they get it soon I have a free
> > > > > account that's 90% full and would really
> > > > > like to merge it with the Premium Service and alias it as well.

> > > > > On Feb 25, 1:41 am, madsere wrote:

> > > > > > Forget it, do not waste your time and money signing up for the premium
> > > > > > service hoping that will provide migration tools - even though their
> > > > > > website says so.

> > > > > > I just signed up with premium service to be able to do this, but no
> > > > > > email migration tools are to be found anywhere. I opened a ticket with
> > > > > > their helpdesk and got this useful (not) reply:

> > > > > > [quote]
> > > > > > Hello,

> > > > > > Thanks for your message.

> > > > > > While Google Apps doesn't currently support the functionality you've
> > > > > > requested, we are testing many new things.

> > > > > > I'll forward your feature request to the appropriate team. We
> > > > > > appreciate
> > > > > > hearing from our users, and value all of the help you offer while we
> > > > > > improve Google Apps.

> > > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > > Cindy
> > > > > > The Google Apps Team
> > > > > > [/quote]

> > > > > > On Feb 22, 11:49 pm, schultzter wrote:

> > > > > > > Anyone know what theEmailmigrationtoolsare in the Premier
> > > > > > > edition?  Would they allow me tomigratethe emails in my existing
> > > > > > > GMail account to my hosted mail account?

> > > > > > > Schultzter -www.schultzter.ca-Masquerle texte des messages précédents -

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