Quick question to those who use gmail to read Honyaku

[Steven P. Venti]

I have several gmail accounts, but I don't use any of them to read or reply to
Honyaku.

I do know, however, that in the past gmail has included quoted material from
earlier messages in replies, irrespective of the fact that the quoted material
was hidden from view in the Read pane. Therefore, I have always advised new
members who use gmail to click the Show Trimmed Content icon in the lower left
of the Reply pane and manually delete that material.

Today, I find that the Gmail interface appears to have been modified, so that
quoted material now appears in the Reply pane as text.

Is this true for everyone now? Is it safe to set aside this gmail-specific
advice for the time being?

TIA

Steve Venti, on behalf of
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[Terry Gallagher]

Steve,

I use GMail to read Honyaku, and when I hit Reply just now to respond to your note, the full text of your note was displayed in the Reply pane, and I expunged it.

Without further investigation, I do not know if this is a standard setting, or a matter over which I could potentially exercise control to achieve different results.

Hope helps.

Terry Gallagher
Eastham, MA USA

[Brian Watson]

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 14:49, Steven P. Venti <spv...@bhk-limited.com> wrote:

Today, I find that the Gmail interface appears to have been modified, so that
quoted material now appears in the Reply pane as text.

Is this true for everyone now? Is it safe to set aside this gmail-specific
advice for the time being?

I don't know anything about this being a recent change, or maybe it's simply

because of my settings, but I've always seen quoted material. It does hide duplicate

material, and signatures, but both are easily displayed and deletable.

Brian Watson
http://www.google.com/profiles/brian.watson
+1.604.395.4202 (home office), +1.425.246.7888 (cell), brian-momotaro (skype)

 

[Wataru Tenga]

Steven P. Venti wrote:

> I do know, however, that in the past gmail has included quoted material from
> earlier messages in replies, irrespective of the fact that the quoted material
> was hidden from view in the Read pane. Therefore, I have always advised new
> members who use gmail to click the Show Trimmed Content icon in the lower left
> of the Reply pane and manually delete that material.

Gmail users have another very good option for judicious quoting. Open
Settings, and under the Labs tab enable the feature, "Quote selected
text." Then before you hit "R" to reply to a message, first select the
text you want quoted, as I have in this message. Only the selected
text will appear in your reply message.

Wataru Tenga, Tokyo

[Nora Stevens Heath]

Wataru Tenga wrote:

> Gmail users have another very good option for judicious quoting. Open
> Settings, and under the Labs tab enable the feature, "Quote selected
> text."

My family and I are personal friends (and my husband and I are former
coworkers) of the Google employee who came up with that particular Lab.
:) Nice to see someone using it in the wild, so to speak.

Nora
at the end of one very long week, workwise

--
Nora Stevens Heath <no...@fumizuki.com>
J-E translations: http://www.fumizuki.com/

[Wolfgang Bechstein]

Nora Stevens Heath wrote:

> Wataru Tenga wrote:
>
> > Gmail users have another very good option for judicious quoting. Open
> > Settings, and under the Labs tab enable the feature, "Quote selected
> > text."
>
> My family and I are personal friends (and my husband and I are former
> coworkers) of the Google employee who came up with that particular Lab.
> :) Nice to see someone using it in the wild, so to speak.

Becky has had this functionality for as long as I can remember. You
don't even need a setting for it. If something is defined when you hit
"Reply", Becky by default quotes only that text. If nothing is defined,
it (she?) quotes the entire message.

Wolfgang Bechstein

[Wataru Tenga]

Wolfgang Bechstein wrote...

Most Japanese email programs have had it for decades, though Becky was
one of the first to implement it and the three-paned interface. Nora's
friend, however, deserves praise for implementing it in a Web-based
mailer for the first time.

Wataru Tenga, Tokyo

[Jeremy Angel]

On 11 February 2012 09:50, Wataru Tenga <wte...@gmail.com> wrote:

Most Japanese email programs have had it for decades, though Becky was
one of the first to implement it and the three-paned interface. Nora's
friend, however, deserves praise for implementing it in a Web-based
mailer for the first time.

But Labs won't be around much longer, unfortunately. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Labs

On 20 July 2011, Google announced that Google Labs would be phased out in order to provide better focus on non-experimental applications.[2] Google said that they will end the experiments and try to put them in different products, like Experimental Search, Gmail and more. Google confirmed in September 2011 that Google Labs would be closed.[3] Google Labs closed on 17 October 2011 for some users.  

--
Jeremy Angel
Nagano, Japan

[Steven P. Venti]

Thanks to everyone for the helpful comments. It would appear that the
situation is not only more complex than I had thought but is also likely to
change at any time--even at different times for different individuals.

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Steve Venti
spv...@bhk-limited.com

Oh, you know all the words, and you sung all the notes,
But you never quite learned the song, she sang.
--Mike Heron
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[Keith Wilkinson]

On certain low-end mobile phones,
Gmail quotes by default, but doesn't
display the quoted material. You need
to save as a draft, then open the draft,
in order to see (and to be able to delete)
the quoted material. =Keith Wilkinson