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I think what you are forgetting is the difference between alive and dead
cells. Wood we use to build things with are made of dead tree cells. You
have to manipulate the live cells to do that. Might want to look up tree
splicing.

in short, you take to trees of the same species like tangerines and
grapefruit. Cut the tree trunks in a V-shape near the base of tree.
switch the top parts off tangerine base with grapefruit top and grape
fruit base with tangerine top. Sit them in the V-cut and tie the v
section tightly. Frequently water and fertilize the trees to aid in
healing and regrowth. If the tree survives, the fruit will be a tangelo.
You can also do this with red and white roses to make unnatural pink rose=
s.

This is possible because in that brief period where then the tree was
cut the "wound" of the tree still had live cells to reproduce. the extra
water and fertilizer is to help the tree cope with the "shock" of being
cut in half.

But trees are very complex plants to deal with. Things like moss are
easier...

http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/featured/moss-grass-graffiti/2147



On 09/21/2012 04:01 PM, Matthew Badeau wrote:
>
> I'm not a scientist but I think the closest you'll be able to get
would be a "soup" even if you loaded the liquid with all of the
nutrients the cells needed. I don't think it would grow like natural
wood fibers and will reduce strength. I imagine you would just be making
natural sawdust. We need a tree expert to chime in. Do we have one of tho=
se?
>
> On Sep 21, 2012 1:37 PM, <RogerInHaw...@aol.com
<mailto:RogerInHaw...@aol.com>> wrote:
>
> I just built a small shelf unit out of press-board. You know, the kind
of wood that's made of wood chips or sawdust and they mix it up with
some kind of adhesive and press it together to make "boards". While I
was cutting it it produced a very fine sawdust that got everywhere,
including in my lungs, and I was spitting up ugly phlegm all night long.
>
> So it got me to thinking... How does wood grow? I know that only the
thin layer of cells just under the bark is actually alive, and that
there is a network of (not sure what to call them) "veins" throughout
the tree that provides the water and nutrients that it gets from the
ground and "pipes" it throughout the tree to the living layer. That
living layer is made up of cells, right? And they grow by dividing, right=
?
>
> So I'm wondering what would happen if you could somehow extract a huge
number (hundreds of thousands) of those individual plant cells and put
them in a "soup" of water and appropriate nutrients and have them grow
and split and grow and split, creating more and more plant cells (like
happens with the yeast in beer). And if you mixed in a bunch of sawdust
and/or wood chips, might the growing plant cells "bind" to the sawdust
and wood chips to create a more natural press-board, one that doesn't
require artificial glues to hold it together, so that this new kind of
press-board would be just as strong as naturally-grown wood.
>
> Wood it work?
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    I think what you are forgetting is the difference between alive and
    dead cells. Wood we use to build things with are made of dead tree
    cells. You have to manipulate the live cells to do that. Might want
    to look up tree splicing.<br>
    <br>
    in short, you take to trees of the same species like tangerines and
    grapefruit. Cut the tree trunks in a V-shape near the base of tree.
    switch the top parts off tangerine base with grapefruit top and
    grape fruit base with tangerine top. Sit them in the V-cut and tie
    the v section tightly. Frequently water and fertilize the trees to
    aid in healing and regrowth. If the tree survives, the fruit will be
    a tangelo. You can also do this with red and white roses to make
    unnatural pink roses.<br>
    <br>
    This is possible because in that brief period where then the tree
    was cut the "wound" of the tree still had live cells to reproduce.
    the extra water and fertilizer is to help the tree cope with the
    "shock" of being cut in half.<br>
    <br>
    But trees are very complex plants to deal with. Things like moss are
    easier...<br>
    <br>
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://www.environmentalgraffi=
ti.com/featured/moss-grass-graffiti/2147">http://www.environmentalgraffit=
i.com/featured/moss-grass-graffiti/2147</a><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 09/21/2012 04:01 PM, Matthew Badeau wrote:<br>
    <span style=3D"white-space: pre;">&gt;<br>
      &gt; I'm not a scientist but I think the closest you'll be able to
      get would be a "soup" even if you loaded the liquid with all of
      the nutrients the cells needed. I don't think it would grow like
      natural wood fibers and will reduce strength. I imagine you would
      just be making natural sawdust. We need a tree expert to chime in.
      Do we have one of those?<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; On Sep 21, 2012 1:37 PM, &lt;<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbrevia=
ted" href=3D"mailto:RogerInHaw...@aol.com">RogerInHaw...@aol.com</a>
      <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:RogerInHawaii@aol=
=2Ecom">&lt;mailto:RogerInHaw...@aol.com&gt;</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; I just built a small shelf unit out of press-board. You know,
      the kind of wood that's made of wood chips or sawdust and they mix
      it up with some kind of adhesive and press it together to make
      "boards". While I was cutting it it produced a very fine sawdust
      that got everywhere, including in my lungs, and I was spitting up
      ugly phlegm all night long.<br>
      &gt; <br>
      &gt; So it got me to thinking... How does wood grow? I know that
      only the thin layer of cells just under the bark is actually
      alive, and that there is a network of (not sure what to call them)
      "veins" throughout the tree that provides the water and nutrients
      that it gets from the ground and "pipes" it throughout the tree to
      the living layer. That living layer is made up of cells, right?
      And they grow by dividing, right?<br>
      &gt; <br>
      &gt; So I'm wondering what would happen if you could somehow
      extract a huge number (hundreds of thousands) of those individual
      plant cells and put them in a "soup" of water and appropriate
      nutrients and have them grow and split and grow and split,
      creating more and more plant cells (like happens with the yeast in
      beer). And if you mixed in a bunch of sawdust and/or wood chips,
      might the growing plant cells "bind" to the sawdust and wood chips
      to create a more natural press-board, one that doesn't require
      artificial glues to hold it together, so that this new kind of
      press-board would be just as strong as naturally-grown wood.<br>
      &gt; <br>
      &gt; Wood it work?<br>
      &gt; -- <br>
      &gt; <br>
      &gt; <br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; -- <br>
      &gt; <br>
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