Makerspace Progress

[Austen Ito]

Hey Makers - Just an update on our new makerspace efforts. As you all know we've been looking at the upstairs space above The Box Jelly. If you don't please read Jason's post. We had a meeting last night with Rechung and few others that would make upstairs possible. There was a hold up because The Box Jelly would need to take the entire upstairs space (over 7000 square feet), which wasn't possible without other tenants taking the back office space. We now have a commitment for the back office space that should get the ball should be rolling.

We are still waiting on numbers, but our space would have 800-1000 square feet with our own entrances.

Thank you everyone for your patience and support. Hopefully we'll have our space soon. It would be just in time for our Makerbot Replicator and Printrbot ;)

[Jerry Isdale]

Thats great news Austen!!

Jerry Isdale

isd...@gmail.com

[Binary Buddha]

Are you folks going to make it 24HR-Access? I'm sure I'm not the only
one that pulls all nighters working on projects.

I think I'm starting to annoy the people at Bambu2. I occasionaly go
there on Friday/Saturday nights and g33k out with a beer while others
are getting thier party on.

Box Jelly seems to have an usual weekend schedule IMO... I do most of
my projects on the weekends since the day job kills the rest of the
day for me.

On Jan 26, 11:20 pm, Austen Ito <austen....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Makers - Just an update on our new makerspace efforts. As you all
> know we've been looking at the upstairs space above The Box Jelly. If you

> don't please read Jason's post<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/honolulu-makerspace/vAmXTAW-txA>. We

[Matthew Badeau]

Yeah. We're going to be 24/7. The primary reason for our own space was all hours access.
My NFC door lock project keeps getting delayed but I hope to have that done by then. It will be RFID + PIN and/or Android + PIN app.

[Binary Buddha]

o.O? NFC .... RFID.... security risks. remote unlock via mobile app with geoloc? membership account used for auth via LDAP server. I kill flies with sledge hammers.

[Tim Newsham]

shouldn't we invite in anyone who can defeat the NFC lock? :)

On Jan 27, 8:26 pm, Binary Buddha <the.binary.bud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> o.O? NFC .... RFID.... security risks. remote unlock via mobile app with
> geoloc? membership account used for auth via LDAP server. I kill flies with
> sledge hammers.

> On Jan 27, 2012 6:38 PM, "Matthew Badeau" <mbad...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > done by then. It will be RFID + PIN and/or Android + PIN app.

> > On Jan 27, 2012 4:56 PM, "Binary Buddha" <the.binary.bud...@gmail.com>

[Binary Buddha]

touche...

[Will Bradley]

Power of... INTERNET!

I implemented an RFID system (NFC one of these days) at HeatSync and this same conversation happened. Here's a few things I think you'll find:

- cameras should go to a dvr in addition to the web (see live.heatsynclabs.org)
- remote unlock is awesome (see intranet.heatsynclabs.org)
- you'll likely have to worry about missing/broken drill bits way more than laptop theft
- most of your really expensive stuff probably takes 4 people to carry it and/or isn't interesting to pawn shops
- the cool stuff you're gonna put up front probably won't look expensive (our huge plasma screen hasn't walked off either)

If you want to be hip, check out the 23b open access control system... lots of hackerspaces are using it, it's based on arduino, and Arclight is a cool dude. I made a mounting bracket for it on thingiverse too.

[Binary Buddha]

BTT ... How can we help to expedite/optimize the acquisition of the
space?

I figure that we're "all hands on deck" until we get it. We just need
some directions.

On Jan 26, 11:20 pm, Austen Ito <austen....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Makers - Just an update on our new makerspace efforts. As you all
> know we've been looking at the upstairs space above The Box Jelly. If you

> don't please read Jason's post<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/honolulu-makerspace/vAmXTAW-txA>. We

[Ryan Ozawa]

Anyone planning to attend Unconferenz on Feb. 25? Might be a good opportunity to regroup and see what else is going on out there. I proposed a "Coworking Space Summit" as a session, I know Rechung will be there... I for sure am curious on progress and would love to foster brainstorming on what's next.

http://www.unconferenz.com

Ryan

Sent from my iPhone

[Burt Lum]

Both Rechung and Ben Trevino (from R&D) are coming to the Unconferenz
so we should have a good representation of the co-working movement.

Burt

[John Garcia]

I'll be there as well! Would be happy to give an update on The Greenhouse
Innovation Hub how we're evolving.

[Jason Axelson]

If I'm on island I'll definitely be there.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Ryan Ozawa <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Austen Ito]

Great Idea. This would be a great opportunity for all of us to get the communities involved with each other.

[Daniel Bui]

Hey guys, my cousin does smartcard entry in which the system can allow
you to get in the door as well as purchase items or pay for printing.
If you're interested let me know. Seems like you guys are doing
something cooler and that's ok too.

On Feb 4, 11:51 am, Will Bradley <bradley.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Power of... INTERNET!
>
> I implemented an RFID system (NFC one of these days) at HeatSync and this
> same conversation happened. Here's a few things I think you'll find:
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> - cameras should go to a dvr in addition to the web (see
> live.heatsynclabs.org)
> - remote unlock is awesome (see intranet.heatsynclabs.org)
> - you'll likely have to worry about missing/broken drill bits way more than
> laptop theft
> - most of your really expensive stuff probably takes 4 people to carry it
> and/or isn't interesting to pawn shops
> - the cool stuff you're gonna put up front probably won't look expensive
> (our huge plasma screen hasn't walked off either)
>
> If you want to be hip, check out the 23b open access control system... lots
> of hackerspaces are using it, it's based on arduino, and Arclight is a cool
> dude. I made a mounting bracket for it on thingiverse too.

> On Feb 4, 2012 2:29 PM, "Binary Buddha" <the.binary.bud...@gmail.com> wrote:
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[John Garcia]

Daniel,

Would like to hear more about the smart card entry!

Sent from my iPhone

[Binary Buddha]

IMO... Smartcard entry is a bad idea. It's adds a cost to that could be
used for something more useful. For smart card entry, we have to "buy"
in to a propriety system. Most of the systems I've worked on sucked if
you wanted to do some customisation for it. The smart card contact
points also were not exactly designed to be used out doors or heavily.
We also have to purchase smartcards for each member along with
maintaining the database system.

I'm kind of diggin' the heatsync setup... we are after all Hackers and
Makers. Why get cornered by the propriety when we can make it do what we
want and the way we want it done? I think the hardest part is fulfulling
a comprehensive "shopping list" for the system.

[Aaron Collins]

Why not create a web app that can be tied to smart phones to allow you
to unlock. You get to the building your phone then gets access to a
wifi network that uses tacas or radius to auth you to the wifi network
that hosts a webapp that controls a few arduino's that control door
locks. I'll volunteer an aurdino for that project. Same app could
later tie into ip cams to allow users access to the cameras to unlock
the door for others when they have guest. This system wouldn't
require any equipment outside to get vandalized or damaged by rain.

When you want to remove someones access, remove from them from radius
system or a central ldap system that radius and webapp query from.

Always have the system on manual locks also incase of power outage.
That type of system would scale huge without requiring more money for
each person you add to it and could be much easier to audit access
for.

Just a thought.

-Analog

[Matthew Badeau]

I've got several Arduinos and some other hardware I wanted to donate
to the project. The smartcard system I envisioned would be more than
just a card and it unlocks the door. I also wanted to include a PIN
pad so that there's two factor authentication. I was going to give two
PN532 RFID/NFC readers to the project. (Or two Parallax readers, I own
4 RFID readers) I was going to pair one of those and a number pad to
an Arduino with Ethernet/Wifi. It was going to connect to a web
service via REST/SOAP and the web service would return the yes/no to
unlock the door.
The most difficult part of the project so far is that I can't connect
any of this to a door yet. I can assemble the hardware portion in
about an hour but after that, we would need to program the rest of the
project. The Arduino can send serial commands to a computer (at this
time) with the ID of the card and PIN, so that portion is complete.
The computer can run a service to connect remotely to our membership
database. Here's the membership system we were going to use:
https://github.com/hicapacity/HackerspaceMembership
That was going to tie into PayPal, download the membership information
and generate an ID/account for the user. We could put that ID on the
card and have the member set a PIN. Either through their account on
the website or through the card issuer.
So here's a quick flowchart/thought pattern:
You pay for membership (through PayPal/Stripe/Cash/Square) -> Account
gets created with ID & temp PIN on server (hash gets created with
seed, PIN & ID) -> account info gets emailed -> Stop by the space to
pick up your card -> Change PIN at space -> Hash of PIN + ID gets
changed on our membership database -> 'log in' to the space from the
door -> hash gets verified against database -> if verified, door
unlocks.
The easy part is assembling the hardware. I've got half of this done now....
If you guys would prefer a different way of doing this, we should
start on the project now. Aaron, I know you have github access, we can
create a repo for the Arduino code separate from the main membership
site and then another for the PC's service. (If we use a PC)

Also, if you alternatively would like to create a project that will
connect through wifi to the Arduino or a computer with Arduino
attached, we should set that up now too. That way, we can work on the
specifics on that projects (LDAP/TACACS & RADIUS authentication).
Let me know when you guys want to start... I'm ready.

[Jerry Isdale]

There are a number of hackerspace membership apps with smartcard/rfid controls.

Crashspace installed one on the front door. It helps track/show when members are present via a web site. Sometimes non-key holders (or shy key holders) want to know someone else is around before they make the pilgrimage. 

looks like you got lots of features planned.

Jerry Isdale

isd...@gmail.com

[Matthew Badeau]

My ideas actually came from the features that other hackerspaces have.
I've read a lot of the articles on how they set up the equipment. I
haven't seen anyone integrate it into their membership app yet...
The one feature I was unable to come up with was showing whether or
not people were around. A lot of people have suggested a Kinect or PIR
sensor to do motion detection. Aaron mentioned IP cams and others
mentioned ways to get live feeds from the space. That could pose a
problem but if TBJ's plan to get fiber internet goes through, then we
could at least cut out the bandwith problem.
I had an open/close sign on the front page but it was ugly and was
hacked together. It also required someone to visit a web page to
signify that someone was 'at the space'..
Anyway, we really need help building a lot of this stuff. Let's set up
a day/time to go over this. We tried having an open night to brain
storm a lot of this but not many people came.

[Binary Buddha]

Well... Before we get ahead of ourselves, lets lockdown a place first.
We can then run the specs to secure it. "You don't build a house on the
sand."

[Daniel Bui]

Hey Guys, if you still need to store your lockers somewhere, I have space at my parents house in Waipahu, I just need a truck to get it there.

[Brian McLaughlin]

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