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Sue Sullivan  
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 2:13 pm
From: Sue Sullivan <sue...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 11:13:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 2:13 pm
Subject: Wanting to compile your knowledge and experiences...
I think it would be extremely useful if we could, on this site,
compile information regarding which varieties and which crops do well
for us in any given year so that we could know, X grows well with
extreme summer heat, Y does well with cool,wet springs, Z survived
hailstorms relatively well. Given how variable our weather is on the
Front Range, knowing varieties that do well in different circumstances
and planting some of each each year, seems like a really smart way to
food garden.

Given that we had a record hot summer this year, I think it would be
excellent to start noting what varieties performed well or didn't for
each of us (this does presume that you all are better at keeping
records than I am, but that wouldn't be hard to achieve :D )

I'm going to start the ball rolling with what I can remember/research
about my own plantings and I would love it if as many of you as
possible could add your results as well:

Potatoes:
Planted yukon gold, dark red norland, purple viking and a russet. Got
mediocre yields from all 4, maybe 5 to 1. My soils could be to blame,
heavy clay in two of the four beds. I will persevere with potatoes but
don't have any brilliant ideas about how to do better next year, at
the moment.

Tomatoes:
Ugh. I have a freezer full, but given that I planted 25 or so plants,
I should have had a pantry full of tomato sauce (presuming I were a
diligent canner, of course, which I"m not). Stupice yielded well and
deliciously.  Moskvich, the other early tomato, was slow and ripened
blotchy and with a thick skin when it finally did.
Big Beef was a champ this year for flavor, size and production and,
because I started it in a wall o water, it was almost as early as the
Stupice. Sun Gold Cherry, an orange cherry tomato, is my husband's
taste favorite and it yielded well.
I had poor results with all the rest of my varieties, especially the
paste tomatoes: amish, Vilm's and Orange Banana paste all were anemic
producers and didn't ripen up much volume. Gardener's delight cherry
produced a lot but the flavor was uninspiring to my husband. Yellow
Pear tomatoes, as always, did very well and were appreciated early
season, but got eclipsed by SunGold as the summer went on for taste
reasons and I've been giving them away by the bagful to the soup
kitchen. Black Krim and Cherokee Purples yielded modestly before the
plants tired out and started dying off. I think I'm done with these
varieties.

Peppers:
New Ace, a hybrid, performed well, as always. I trialed King of the
North, Peace work and WIsconsin Lakes sweet peppers in search of a
seed-saveable variety. King of the North did the best of the three. I
may trial all 3 again next year to get a clearer picture. I have
always liked Jimmy Nardello, a silly long thin curly sweet pepper that
ripens up to red slightly faster than the blocky bells, and it did
well enough this year. (Not a good candidate for roasting, but fine
for dicing up and fresh eating. And it's an heirloom variety.)

Brassicas:
Done, done done with DeCicco. I should have looked up it's growth
habits two years ago and given up on it. (It produces small heads and
lots of side shoots, I want the exact opposite.) I'm going to revisit
a variety we sold seeds of a couple years ago that produced large
heads, Fiesta, I believe it was.
Super Red 80 (hybrid) cabbage and copenhagen market cabbage (heirloom)
both did really well this year. I had more cabbage than I knew what to
do with. Early snowball cauliflower did fairly well, given the heat
but I lost about 25-30 percent to buttoning (not forming a proper
head).

Alliums: I planted redwing and copra as my storage onions. Redwing
sized up beautifully, copra were a respectable crop as well. I got a
mixed bag of onions from Plantorium just cause I had extra space out
at Teresa and Randy Redmond-Ott's garden, and they sized up decently
as well. Shallots were surprisingly low-germination for me, given that
they were a fresh seed batch. King Richard leeks have done well,
growing slowly but steadily, as always.

Other crops:
Zucchini did great, always does. Tomatillos produced reasonably well.
Blue lake green beans did great, but I planted mid season a variety I
liked a lot better: Maxibel bush haricot vert. Hoo boy! It's a bush
bean, so not ideal from a space useage perspective (I'm going to check
fedco for a pole variety of maxibel this winter) but it produced
lovely, long, thin delicious green beans and I will definitely plant
that again. Planted black cocoa beans as a dry storage bean. Yielded
well, have yet to figure out how to cook them so that they soften up
sufficiently. Maybe pressure canning them will do the trick.

Scarlet Nantes carrots, when they germinated, sized up nicely but boy
it was hard to get them started in the heat of the summer. I guess I
really do need to overseed those and commit to thin them. They did
germinate well for me in a 5-gal bucket drilled with holes and filled
with potting soil. I could keep the bucket in the shade or even the
garage during germination mid summer, then move it into sun once the
starts were up.

This year sugar pie pumpkins grew like gang busters, as did buttercup
squash and hubbard (the size hubbard's grow, it only takes two fruit
to out perform most of the other squash plants). Lesser yields from
butternut, and my acorn squash were numerous but quite small. More
like a personal squash.

Sweet corn did marvelously, as always (Silver Queen seed from fedco, I
finally used up the last of the four year old seed this year.)

Discovered the joys of kale chips this year (properly roasted, the
aphids are completely unnoticeable! :D ). The lacinato kale was too
narrow and delicate to make a good kale chip but the curly leafed
dinosaur kale I planted was perfect.

Beets, detroit red, I believe, I just harvested and they were on the
small side (likely due to grasshopper pressures and some droughtiness)
but probably are tastier that way. Forellenschusse lettuce lasted a
lot longer than I thought it would in the late spring heat. Summer
plantings of lettuce were a bust. Rainbow chard produced like a champ,
as always; sadly, I am sick of chard.

Raspberries are perennially productive and long-yielding. We have
autumn britten and heritage as fall bearers and one sets huge,
delicious berries. I believe it is the heritage. Both yield well. We
also have Anne yellow raspberries that are summer bearing and those
have a lovely flavor and sweetness as well.

Strawberries did fine also this year and yielded at least 3 weeks
early.

Neither of my honey crisp apples blossomed much or set fruit. Dunno if
they are taking the year off or lacking a pollinator. I've bought a
granny smith green apple (and four other stone fruits) this fall to
rectify the pollinator issue, if it is the issue.
My asian pear tree bore heroically as per usual, though some sort of
grub (coddling moth?) got into about 25-30 percent of the fruits for
the first time ever. Standard pear tree produced a handful of pears,
despite being decapitated by a falling limb in last October's
snowpocalypse. My sour cherry yielded well this year, as always,
despite losing its leader in the same catastrophe.

Phew, that's about all I can reconstruct/remember.

Thanks in advance for any info that you all add to our collective
knowledge base,

Sue


 
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Discussion subject changed to "{Home Grown Food:450} Wanting to compile your knowledge and experiences..." by Mark Carlson
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 2:53 pm
From: Mark Carlson <mark.carl...@oracle.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 12:53:25 -0600
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: {Home Grown Food:450} Wanting to compile your knowledge and experiences...
This year I had a bumper crop of Spaghetti Squash. It was a volunteer,
so I have no idea the variety, but they are delicious.

If anyone wants to trade for their excess surplus, I would be overjoyed...

Maybe we could set up periodic crop swaps.

-- mark


 
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Discussion subject changed to "{Home Grown Food:451} Wanting to compile your knowledge and experiences..." by Marguerita Cattell
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 4:40 pm
From: Marguerita Cattell <mcatt...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:40:30 -0600
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: {Home Grown Food:451} Wanting to compile your knowledge and experiences...
Thanks, Sue for the report.

My try...

I had watering problems all of May. April soil temperature exceeded 90 f then dropped back to 40s in April. This got my early sweet corn and beans off to a poor start. Replanted carrots, lettuce...

Mayfair peas were mediocre. I sometimes plant dried bulk peas from vitamin cottage. Persian and they germinate great. Peas from covercrop grew great midsummer...go figure.

Two huge crops of beans with Roma bush beans performing well as usual. Contender bush beans were mediocre.

Summer crookneck squash appears to have overheated !?! Grew vigorously when it cooled off. Very few male flowers of my squash. Is that due to heat?

Second crop sweetcorn (old seed Sweet Chorus and Sweet Rhythm) did okay but grasshoppers ate silks partway thru pollination so ears were short. OP Ashworth sweetcorn struggled to germinate in the heat.

Speckled Amish lettuce was gorgeous. I have close to a lb of seed saved.

Matt's wild and Black cherries were superb and vigorous. Principe Borgese was okay. Romas from Plantorium produced maybe 3 lbs per plant. Sundried many jars packed with olive oil. Love the fruit and fancy, tasty bright red oil.

Early Red Sweet, pimento and King of the North peppers did well. King of the North was most prolific and hearty.
Still like pimento flavor but fruits are small.

Started using coated carrot seed so no thinning. Works like a charm. Planted Fall herbs and salad greens in a kitchen garden and containers. I can water and shade more easily. Excellent results. Mizuna and tatsoi seedling even regrew after hail.

Love African basil and so do the bees.
Love garden cress and sorrel.

Meg

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 5, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Mark Carlson <mark.carl...@oracle.com> wrote:


 
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Discussion subject changed to "{Home Grown Food:450} Wanting to compile your knowledge and experiences..." by Sue Sullivan
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 8:20 pm
From: Sue Sullivan <sue...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 17:20:34 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 8:20 pm
Subject: Re: {Home Grown Food:450} Wanting to compile your knowledge and experiences...

Mark, I love the idea of a veg swap. Starting sometime in late August/
early Sept. I had more than I could use of green beans, cherry
tomatoes, cukes and cabbages, if I recall correctly.
I currently have an excess of red and green cabbage, sugar pie
pumpkins and buttercup squash that I would be happy to trade for some
spaghetti squash and  I have a gardening friend who has extra beets
that she grew for the greens. I bet she'd be willing to participate
too. Anyone else?


 
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Discussion subject changed to "{Home Grown Food:451} Wanting to compile your knowledge and experiences..." by Sue Sullivan
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 8:22 pm
From: Sue Sullivan <sue...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 17:22:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 8:22 pm
Subject: Re: {Home Grown Food:451} Wanting to compile your knowledge and experiences...
Meg, I can't believe you typed all of that on your phone. You have
great patience. Or possibly very tiny fingers. I'm googling coated
carrot seed ASAP. Sounds quite promising. I'll try to compile all of
our answers into a reference document later this fall. Thanks for
replying!

 
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 More options Oct 16 2012, 12:10 pm
From: Sue Sullivan <sue...@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:10:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 16 2012 12:10 pm
Subject: Re: Wanting to compile your knowledge and experiences...
Just bumping up this thread/request for info with a testimonial from
Heirloom Solutions (if you folks are on facebook, they post lots of
interesting tidbits and are worth "liking". They are growing in NW
Illinois, and reported this:

"Another excellent producer from our trials this summer! It’s called
Tsungshigo Chinese and produces prolific amounts of reddish-purple
roma-type tomatoes. This one is a real winner!"

I asked them for details on their weather this summer:

"Unfortunately this year we had a horrible drought & very high
temperatures. Our growing season is about 150 days but these start
producing in about 80 days."

They obviously have more humidity there than we do, but otherwise it
sounds like they shared many of our growing challenges this year. I'm
going to give this variety a try next year. I have yet to grow a paste
tomato that knocked my socks off, production-wise.

Sue


 
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