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  <title>Re: Umbilical Server, first success</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/holonforth/browse_thread/thread/55bce7ec2d49513d/550c71bc1bc46051?show_docid=550c71bc1bc46051</link>
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  Still have to test umbiserver, first try didn&#39;t work (OSX). I am glad &lt;br&gt; you can use it. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;HolonPy now seems ready for conversion of all Forth system words. I &lt;br&gt; can only judge by the generated code, but it looks like the &lt;br&gt; objecttypes work, colon and code words create Python code with the &lt;br&gt; indentation syntax (with v1.103, uploaded today).
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  <author>
  wejga...@gmail.com
  (Wolf Wejgaard)
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  <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:34:01 UT
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  <title>Re: [holonforth] Re: Umbilical Server, first success</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/holonforth/browse_thread/thread/55bce7ec2d49513d/4c4f86523407c52f?show_docid=4c4f86523407c52f</link>
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  Try holonpy v1.101 &lt;br&gt; Objecttypes and test() are adapted. &lt;br&gt; tolower is meant for strings, not variables, should work.
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  <author>
  wejga...@gmail.com
  (Wejgaard Wolf)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:06:27 UT
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  <title>Re: Umbilical Server, first success</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/holonforth/browse_thread/thread/55bce7ec2d49513d/bd627b90234a0925?show_docid=bd627b90234a0925</link>
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  locals work, &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://holonforth.googlecode.com/files/bigchimps-working-variable.zip&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; has exportet module and my db &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Bugs: &lt;br&gt; tolower is not recognized, &lt;br&gt; instance broken (compiles an indented push() and nothing else)
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  <author>
  bigchim...@googlemail.com
  (Volker)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:55:49 UT
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  <title>Re: Umbilical Server, first success</title>
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  push of numbers needs indent
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  bigchim...@googlemail.com
  (Volker)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:46:21 UT
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  <title>Re: Umbilical Server, first success</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/holonforth/browse_thread/thread/55bce7ec2d49513d/21434f8e389bb196?show_docid=21434f8e389bb196</link>
  <description>
  Holons Test must add the &amp;quot;()&amp;quot;.
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  <author>
  bigchim...@googlemail.com
  (Volker)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:02:32 UT
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  <title>Umbilical Server, first success</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/holonforth/browse_thread/thread/55bce7ec2d49513d/f40985136bc57a2f?show_docid=f40985136bc57a2f</link>
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  &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://holonforth.googlecode.com/files/bigchimps-holonpy.zip&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Its in the /source. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Notes: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;same folder)
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  <author>
  bigchim...@googlemail.com
  (Volker)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:58:37 UT
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  <title>Re: Second Python</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/holonforth/browse_thread/thread/ac13f89c43925ed9/33fba73c508511b5?show_docid=33fba73c508511b5</link>
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  Now implemented in holonpy.kit v1.99. &lt;br&gt; For details see &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://code.google.com/p/holonforth/wiki/HolonPy&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Wolf
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  <author>
  wejga...@gmail.com
  (Wolf Wejgaard)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:32:41 UT
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  <title>Re: Second Python</title>
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  Volker, I need a little time for reflection and discussion. Just a &lt;br&gt; short reaction for now. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;- The svn is no problem, I can get your files from the project as hdb &lt;br&gt; ok. Just can&#39;t write to svn yet but upload to the download space. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;- HolonPy (the host) will later take care of the . and ! . Meanwhile
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  <author>
  wejga...@gmail.com
  (Wolf Wejgaard)
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  <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:12:33 UT
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  <title>Re: Second Python</title>
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  I used bad vad wording. Wanted to say: I changed your a bit. Now &lt;br&gt; python runs it without errors. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I can zip too, if you prefer that. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Yes. all &amp;quot;.&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;!&amp;quot; are replaced by &amp;quot;dot_&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;xm_&amp;quot; in the python-code &lt;br&gt; automatically. &lt;br&gt; I think tcl has regexp for replacing. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Yes, then if is simply &lt;br&gt; Compiler if
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  <author>
  bigchim...@googlemail.com
  (Volker)
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  <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:09:41 UT
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  <title>Re: Second Python</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/holonforth/browse_thread/thread/ac13f89c43925ed9/d3b7909f0ad768d6?show_docid=d3b7909f0ad768d6</link>
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  Main change: Host console and code window don&#39;t open at start. Open &lt;br&gt; the windows via the Setup button. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Link only works up to .../source/ , doesn&#39;t matter, I also can get the &lt;br&gt; files browsing the source in the project site. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;This is a serious point. Dot words are ANS Forth standard and should
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  <author>
  wejga...@gmail.com
  (Wolf Wejgaard)
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  <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:01:15 UT
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  <title>Second Python</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/holonforth/browse_thread/thread/ac13f89c43925ed9/509de4a1db9fcab1?show_docid=509de4a1db9fcab1</link>
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  Your version changed a bit to run. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Download from svn, or &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://holonforth.googlecode.com/svn-history/r19/trunk/bigchimps-workspace/source/__Forth@Python&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; for module. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Important: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;.s&amp;quot; etc: replace with &amp;quot;dot_s&amp;quot; etc. Should be easy with a Regexp on &lt;br&gt; all names. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Next should be ifs. do you have a way for indentation? Python uses
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  <author>
  bigchim...@googlemail.com
  (Volker)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:38:10 UT
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  <title>Re: First Python</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/holonforth/browse_thread/thread/76d01b8cdbb57dcf/1775195ddc4fd8f5?show_docid=1775195ddc4fd8f5</link>
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  The system is now available for download in the project site (see &lt;br&gt; previous message). I have prepared HolonPy (holonpy.kit) for def, code &lt;br&gt; and colon words inluding the stack handling. In holonpy.hdb the first &lt;br&gt; three sections of _Forth are already adapted to Python, and colon &lt;br&gt; words seem to work as well (see TestColon). I hope this helps to get
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  <author>
  wejga...@gmail.com
  (Wolf Wejgaard)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:04:44 UT
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  <title>Re: First Python</title>
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  Volker, this is nice work! And a lot of stuff, I need some time to &lt;br&gt; answer it all. First of all I would like to bring some structure to &lt;br&gt; the project in order to not waste and loose your good work in the long &lt;br&gt; messages. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I have recently started a google project for holonforth cooperation, &lt;br&gt; see &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://code.google.com/p/holonforth/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; , and now have added you as a
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  <author>
  wejga...@gmail.com
  (Wolf Wejgaard)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:04:57 UT
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  <title>First Python</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com/group/holonforth/browse_thread/thread/76d01b8cdbb57dcf/bbbb2b166a5d1981?show_docid=bbbb2b166a5d1981</link>
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  Some basic Python is running. &lt;br&gt; Build a preprocessor to convert parens and such. &lt;br&gt; Load rest of email to get modules and more info &lt;br&gt; No spaces before &amp;lt;module&amp;gt; ! &lt;br&gt; -- snip -- &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;Module&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;Name&amp;gt; To-Python &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;Version&amp;gt; 001 &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;Section&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;Name&amp;gt; Section &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;Version&amp;gt; 001 &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;Unit&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;Name&amp;gt; output &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;Comment&amp;gt; mark insert 1.0 mark current 1.0 text {
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  <author>
  bigchim...@googlemail.com
  (Volker)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:20:20 UT
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  <title>Re: Multiple Targets?</title>
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  Well, this should be enough to start and get a feeling for the size of the &lt;br&gt; project. I suggest to first try and adapt HolonT to one of the other &lt;br&gt; languages; please choose the one you like best. We will have to build a &lt;br&gt; Holon version for each of the languages anyway. &lt;br&gt; I will provide the Holon host adapted to your language. The target part then
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  <author>
  wejga...@gmail.com
  (Wejgaard Wolf)
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  <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:43:08 UT
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