Thank you for your ongoing feedback to enhance the Socratic dialogue within HQR! Your input is highly appreciated. Please accept humble apologies for any errors or omissions in presenting HQR in a simple-to- understand way. We are friends and as students the evolving Socratic dialogue helps to arrive at a better understanding step by step. To quote Socrates, "Of one thing I am certain, that I don't know anything with certainty!" The clarified text -- Revision V -- follows:
What is Holistic Quantum Relativity?
Since many have asked for a simple explanation of HQR, this is an attempt at providing it, with heartfelt apologies for all errors and omissions.
The Absolute is indefinable, nameless, formless, wordless, soundless, although when it comes into expression it is known by different Names!
Let us take a table. What is it essentially made of? Wood on the surface and underlying that... what? Energy! Why? Let us examine the wood under a powerful electron microscope. What is it made of? Carbon and hydrogen atoms amongst other types connected to each other with what? Energy bonds and vast open spaces... What are the carbon atoms made of? A nucleus and polarised charge clouds with electrons etc and... what? Energy packets and vast open spaces... What is the nucleus made of? Sub-atomic particles and... what? Quantised energy and vast open spaces!
Beyond the 1920s we referred to the nucleus as a collection of protons and neutrons enveloped by an electron charge cloud and step by step we have put so many designer labels on the sub-parts -- sub-nuclear particles -- that at last count there were at least 100+ different names for such energy particles and growing!
Now, as we go deeper... and observe: the sub-atomic particles -- all flavours -- are just forms of packet (Quantum) energy connected with each other as Happenings, ie, "Haps" manifest as pulsating particles or waves depending on how we look at them or don't! [Heisenberg ist wunderbar!]
The "Haps" are the sequence in which the entire universe connects to create a grand holographic story, yes, the illusion of duality, which when looked at holistically is all just One space-time continuum of energy, which can be expressed as a grand manifestation of light or cosmic vibration simultaneously appearing and disappearing as matter, based on the illusory lens of observation set at simultaneous multiple planes of consciousness! No wonder, at first glance, it makes no sense. It confuses, disturbs and we end up being doubtful! No need to be doubtful of inherent volatilities or ripples in the pond, which is just a metaphor for the "Grand Narrative"!
What is HQR suggesting in a nutshell?
We ignore micro- and macro- layers, connections and connectivity at our peril because this is the interwoven fabric of the entire universe! As we evolve, the more we are able to connect with our within. Beyond people, events, places, stories, facts, fiction, things etc we re-create nascent haps in our mind-spirit matrix as suliminal and then neural networks. Step by step, everything appears connected within a "Grand Narrative." All becomes Holistic when we align the without with our within. The past, present and future merge into one when the immanent spirit triumphs over logic and the creative spark overtakes the mundane banality of our tedium-inspired illusory entrapment!
Holos is not just "Whole", it is essentially about recognising perfection: Why? The so called good, bad and ugly do not exist but only do so in the duality of our mind's perception. Holistically, all is there for a perfectly valid reason or completely not there for a perfectly valid reason manifest as Synchronicity! Perfectly timed, perfectly placed, perfectly connected!
If we were to revisit the original 30+ HQR Socratic dialogues what we would find is that even these humble thoughts have been expressed within them. Everything is connected with everything else and that is the "Grand Narrative" of our existence. Once we are able to recognise the Quantum nature of Energy, the Relativity of our existence suspended in an illusory -- disconnected -- duality of the mind (an entrapment) and that our true essence, the spirit, is Holistic and no different from the Cosmic Origin of the entire universe and beyond -- The Supra Universal Consciousness -- we are then able to recognise that Holistic Quantum Relativity = Spirit Mind Connectivity.
Within the dynamic HQR of our trinitised existence: The Father is the Supra Universal Consiousness (Divine and Primordial Awareness at all Eight planes); The Son is the Universal Consciousness (Director of Mental Awareness at Three lower planes); and The Spirit is the Consciousness (Individual Spirit or Soul's Awareness entrapped at a restricted number of lower planes) made Holy via the "Word" or "Vibration".
The teachings of Sant Mat "Way of the Saints" suggest that creation occurs through primordial "Vibration", a vibratory principle, known in various languages as "Naam", "Shabda", "Kalma", "Logos", and "Word", and that individual salvation and enlightenment is achieved when the human soul is put into contact with it through the agency of a Great Spiritual Master who has that principle fully manifest within ("Word made flesh"). Sant Mat masters state the Holy Spirit also mentioned in several Holy books, refers to this principle, citing many passages referring to "baptism in the Holy Spirit", revelations received while "in the Spirit", and Great Spiritual Masters and Philosopher Scientists -- Socrates, Pythagoras, Buddha, Lao Tse Tsu, Jesus, Maulana Rumi, Kabir and Kirpal et al -- curing with the Spirit as indications that they were conferring initiation into the esoteric practice of the "Word" - Surat Shabda Yoga - Soul Vibration Union during their lifetimes.
The moment the Spirit recognises that it is none other than a part of the Supra Universal Consciousness and acts as such, the duality imposed by the mental faculties is removed step by step. There is a rich narrative of connectivity going all the way back to creation put together Holistically with perfection, Quantised by Time and Energy, and then re-presented as Relativity as a Space-Time Continnum connected across multiple planes, which we cannot externally visualise as ONE, but only in our within and then alone via our "Rising Consciousness" that:
"Yes! We are indeed all One-in-All and All-in-One!"
[ENDS]
The "E8 Album" images in Volume I http://ow.ly/kGJj and Volume II http://ow.ly/TAB9 are visual intersections of Spirituality, Science, Art and Sustainability! Feel free to share them on your FB page by clicking share or you can tag yourself!
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:52 PM, DK Matai <dkma...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Dear Friends
> Thank you for your ongoing feedback to enhance the Socratic dialogue > within HQR! Your input is highly appreciated. Please accept humble > apologies for any errors or omissions in presenting HQR in a simple-to- > understand way. We are friends and as students the evolving Socratic > dialogue helps to arrive at a better understanding step by step. To > quote Socrates, "Of one thing I am certain, that I don't know anything > with certainty!" The clarified text -- Revision V -- follows:
> What is Holistic Quantum Relativity?
> Since many have asked for a simple explanation of HQR, this is an > attempt at providing it, with heartfelt apologies for all errors and > omissions.
> The Absolute is indefinable, nameless, formless, wordless, soundless, > although when it comes into expression it is known by different Names!
> Let us take a table. What is it essentially made of? Wood on the > surface and underlying that... what? Energy! Why? Let us examine the > wood under a powerful electron microscope. What is it made of? Carbon > and hydrogen atoms amongst other types connected to each other with > what? Energy bonds and vast open spaces... What are the carbon atoms > made of? A nucleus and polarised charge clouds with electrons etc > and... what? Energy packets and vast open spaces... What is the > nucleus made of? Sub-atomic particles and... what? Quantised energy > and vast open spaces!
> Beyond the 1920s we referred to the nucleus as a collection of protons > and neutrons enveloped by an electron charge cloud and step by step we > have put so many designer labels on the sub-parts -- sub-nuclear > particles -- that at last count there were at least 100+ different > names for such energy particles and growing!
> Now, as we go deeper... and observe: the sub-atomic particles -- all > flavours -- are just forms of packet (Quantum) energy connected with > each other as Happenings, ie, "Haps" manifest as pulsating particles > or waves depending on how we look at them or don't! [Heisenberg ist > wunderbar!]
> The "Haps" are the sequence in which the entire universe connects to > create a grand holographic story, yes, the illusion of duality, which > when looked at holistically is all just One space-time continuum of > energy, which can be expressed as a grand manifestation of light or > cosmic vibration simultaneously appearing and disappearing as matter, > based on the illusory lens of observation set at simultaneous multiple > planes of consciousness! No wonder, at first glance, it makes no > sense. It confuses, disturbs and we end up being doubtful! No need to > be doubtful of inherent volatilities or ripples in the pond, which is > just a metaphor for the "Grand Narrative"!
> What is HQR suggesting in a nutshell?
> We ignore micro- and macro- layers, connections and connectivity at > our peril because this is the interwoven fabric of the entire > universe! As we evolve, the more we are able to connect with our > within. Beyond people, events, places, stories, facts, fiction, > things etc we re-create nascent haps in our mind-spirit matrix as > suliminal and then neural networks. Step by step, everything appears > connected within a "Grand Narrative." All becomes Holistic when we > align the without with our within. The past, present and future merge > into one when the immanent spirit triumphs over logic and the creative > spark overtakes the mundane banality of our tedium-inspired illusory > entrapment!
> Holos is not just "Whole", it is essentially about recognising > perfection: Why? The so called good, bad and ugly do not exist but > only do so in the duality of our mind's perception. Holistically, all > is there for a perfectly valid reason or completely not there for a > perfectly valid reason manifest as Synchronicity! Perfectly timed, > perfectly placed, perfectly connected!
> If we were to revisit the original 30+ HQR Socratic dialogues what we > would find is that even these humble thoughts have been expressed > within them. Everything is connected with everything else and that is > the "Grand Narrative" of our existence. Once we are able to recognise > the Quantum nature of Energy, the Relativity of our existence > suspended in an illusory -- disconnected -- duality of the mind (an > entrapment) and that our true essence, the spirit, is Holistic and no > different from the Cosmic Origin of the entire universe and beyond -- > The Supra Universal Consciousness -- we are then able to recognise > that Holistic Quantum Relativity = Spirit Mind Connectivity.
> Within the dynamic HQR of our trinitised existence: The Father is the > Supra Universal Consiousness (Divine and Primordial Awareness at all > Eight planes); The Son is the Universal Consciousness (Director of > Mental Awareness at Three lower planes); and The Spirit is the > Consciousness (Individual Spirit or Soul's Awareness entrapped at a > restricted number of lower planes) made Holy via the "Word" or > "Vibration".
> The teachings of Sant Mat "Way of the Saints" suggest that creation > occurs through primordial "Vibration", a vibratory principle, known in > various languages as "Naam", "Shabda", "Kalma", "Logos", and "Word", > and that individual salvation and enlightenment is achieved when the > human soul is put into contact with it through the agency of a Great > Spiritual Master who has that principle fully manifest within ("Word > made flesh"). Sant Mat masters state the Holy Spirit also mentioned in > several Holy books, refers to this principle, citing many passages > referring to "baptism in the Holy Spirit", revelations received while > "in the Spirit", and Great Spiritual Masters and Philosopher > Scientists -- Socrates, Pythagoras, Buddha, Lao Tse Tsu, Jesus, > Maulana Rumi, Kabir and Kirpal et al -- curing with the Spirit as > indications that they were conferring initiation into the esoteric > practice of the "Word" - Surat Shabda Yoga - Soul Vibration Union > during their lifetimes.
> The moment the Spirit recognises that it is none other than a part of > the Supra Universal Consciousness and acts as such, the duality > imposed by the mental faculties is removed step by step. There is a > rich narrative of connectivity going all the way back to creation put > together Holistically with perfection, Quantised by Time and Energy, > and then re-presented as Relativity as a Space-Time Continnum > connected across multiple planes, which we cannot externally visualise > as ONE, but only in our within and then alone via our "Rising > Consciousness" that:
> "Yes! We are indeed all One-in-All and All-in-One!"
> [ENDS]
> The "E8 Album" images in Volume I http://ow.ly/kGJj and Volume II > http://ow.ly/TAB9 are visual intersections of Spirituality, Science, > Art and Sustainability! Feel free to share them on your FB page by > clicking share or you can tag yourself!
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have already educated many New Age students too you know :)
It is so good to see that our mutual effort that started on the IntentBlog and resulted in HQR has already been a blessing to many, according to the comments you have received on Facebook. I have been reading them in awe!
I have posted the above link both on Intent.com and on Deepak Chopra's own page. There will be a large debate in March of this year between Deepak Chopra and Michael Shermer. Thought the HQR E8 album could add much value to it.
> Thank you for your ongoing feedback to enhance the Socratic dialogue > within HQR! Your input is highly appreciated. Please accept humble > apologies for any errors or omissions in presenting HQR in a simple-to- > understand way. We are friends and as students the evolving Socratic > dialogue helps to arrive at a better understanding step by step. To > quote Socrates, "Of one thing I am certain, that I don't know anything > with certainty!" The clarified text -- Revision V -- follows:
> What is Holistic Quantum Relativity?
> Since many have asked for a simple explanation of HQR, this is an > attempt at providing it, with heartfelt apologies for all errors and > omissions.
> The Absolute is indefinable, nameless, formless, wordless, soundless, > although when it comes into expression it is known by different Names!
> Let us take a table. What is it essentially made of? Wood on the > surface and underlying that... what? Energy! Why? Let us examine the > wood under a powerful electron microscope. What is it made of? Carbon > and hydrogen atoms amongst other types connected to each other with > what? Energy bonds and vast open spaces... What are the carbon atoms > made of? A nucleus and polarised charge clouds with electrons etc > and... what? Energy packets and vast open spaces... What is the > nucleus made of? Sub-atomic particles and... what? Quantised energy > and vast open spaces!
> Beyond the 1920s we referred to the nucleus as a collection of protons > and neutrons enveloped by an electron charge cloud and step by step we > have put so many designer labels on the sub-parts -- sub-nuclear > particles -- that at last count there were at least 100+ different > names for such energy particles and growing!
> Now, as we go deeper... and observe: the sub-atomic particles -- all > flavours -- are just forms of packet (Quantum) energy connected with > each other as Happenings, ie, "Haps" manifest as pulsating particles > or waves depending on how we look at them or don't! [Heisenberg ist > wunderbar!]
> The "Haps" are the sequence in which the entire universe connects to > create a grand holographic story, yes, the illusion of duality, which > when looked at holistically is all just One space-time continuum of > energy, which can be expressed as a grand manifestation of light or > cosmic vibration simultaneously appearing and disappearing as matter, > based on the illusory lens of observation set at simultaneous multiple > planes of consciousness! No wonder, at first glance, it makes no > sense. It confuses, disturbs and we end up being doubtful! No need to > be doubtful of inherent volatilities or ripples in the pond, which is > just a metaphor for the "Grand Narrative"!
> What is HQR suggesting in a nutshell?
> We ignore micro- and macro- layers, connections and connectivity at > our peril because this is the interwoven fabric of the entire > universe! As we evolve, the more we are able to connect with our > within. Beyond people, events, places, stories, facts, fiction, > things etc we re-create nascent haps in our mind-spirit matrix as > suliminal and then neural networks. Step by step, everything appears > connected within a "Grand Narrative." All becomes Holistic when we > align the without with our within. The past, present and future merge > into one when the immanent spirit triumphs over logic and the creative > spark overtakes the mundane banality of our tedium-inspired illusory > entrapment!
> Holos is not just "Whole", it is essentially about recognising > perfection: Why? The so called good, bad and ugly do not exist but > only do so in the duality of our mind's perception. Holistically, all > is there for a perfectly valid reason or completely not there for a > perfectly valid reason manifest as Synchronicity! Perfectly timed, > perfectly placed, perfectly connected!
> If we were to revisit the original 30+ HQR Socratic dialogues what we > would find is that even these humble thoughts have been expressed > within them. Everything is connected with everything else and that is > the "Grand Narrative" of our existence. Once we are able to recognise > the Quantum nature of Energy, the Relativity of our existence > suspended in an illusory -- disconnected -- duality of the mind (an > entrapment) and that our true essence, the spirit, is Holistic and no > different from the Cosmic Origin of the entire universe and beyond -- > The Supra Universal Consciousness -- we are then able to recognise > that Holistic Quantum Relativity = Spirit Mind Connectivity.
> Within the dynamic HQR of our trinitised existence: The Father is the > Supra Universal Consiousness (Divine and Primordial Awareness at all > Eight planes); The Son is the Universal Consciousness (Director of > Mental Awareness at Three lower planes); and The Spirit is the > Consciousness (Individual Spirit or Soul's Awareness entrapped at a > restricted number of lower planes) made Holy via the "Word" or > "Vibration".
> The teachings of Sant Mat "Way of the Saints" suggest that creation > occurs through primordial "Vibration", a vibratory principle, known in > various languages as "Naam", "Shabda", "Kalma", "Logos", and "Word", > and that individual salvation and enlightenment is achieved when the > human soul is put into contact with it through the agency of a Great > Spiritual Master who has that principle fully manifest within ("Word > made flesh"). Sant Mat masters state the Holy Spirit also mentioned in > several Holy books, refers to this principle, citing many passages > referring to "baptism in the Holy Spirit", revelations received while > "in the Spirit", and Great Spiritual Masters and Philosopher > Scientists -- Socrates, Pythagoras, Buddha, Lao Tse Tsu, Jesus, > Maulana Rumi, Kabir and Kirpal et al -- curing with the Spirit as > indications that they were conferring initiation into the esoteric > practice of the "Word" - Surat Shabda Yoga - Soul Vibration Union > during their lifetimes.
> The moment the Spirit recognises that it is none other than a part of > the Supra Universal Consciousness and acts as such, the duality > imposed by the mental faculties is removed step by step. There is a > rich narrative of connectivity going all the way back to creation put > together Holistically with perfection, Quantised by Time and Energy, > and then re-presented as Relativity as a Space-Time Continnum > connected across multiple planes, which we cannot externally visualise > as ONE, but only in our within and then alone via our "Rising > Consciousness" that:
> "Yes! We are indeed all One-in-All and All-in-One!"
> [ENDS]
> The "E8 Album" images in Volume Ihttp://ow.ly/kGJjand Volume IIhttp://ow.ly/TAB9are visual intersections of Spirituality, Science, > Art and Sustainability! Feel free to share them on your FB page by > clicking share or you can tag yourself!
> DK, you approached perfection in describing HQR!
> At the end it is the indescribable though. There is no whole which is not a > part and no part which is not a whole.
> It is like as some wit said: "God is a circle whose center is everywhere > circumference nowhere."
> Yet, you reached almost perfection possible within the realm of words.
> Harb
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:52 PM, DK Matai <dkma...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Dear Friends
> > Thank you for your ongoing feedback to enhance the Socratic dialogue > > within HQR! Your input is highly appreciated. Please accept humble > > apologies for any errors or omissions in presenting HQR in a simple-to- > > understand way. We are friends and as students the evolving Socratic > > dialogue helps to arrive at a better understanding step by step. To > > quote Socrates, "Of one thing I am certain, that I don't know anything > > with certainty!" The clarified text -- Revision V -- follows:
> > What is Holistic Quantum Relativity?
> > Since many have asked for a simple explanation of HQR, this is an > > attempt at providing it, with heartfelt apologies for all errors and > > omissions.
> > The Absolute is indefinable, nameless, formless, wordless, soundless, > > although when it comes into expression it is known by different Names!
> > Let us take a table. What is it essentially made of? Wood on the > > surface and underlying that... what? Energy! Why? Let us examine the > > wood under a powerful electron microscope. What is it made of? Carbon > > and hydrogen atoms amongst other types connected to each other with > > what? Energy bonds and vast open spaces... What are the carbon atoms > > made of? A nucleus and polarised charge clouds with electrons etc > > and... what? Energy packets and vast open spaces... What is the > > nucleus made of? Sub-atomic particles and... what? Quantised energy > > and vast open spaces!
> > Beyond the 1920s we referred to the nucleus as a collection of protons > > and neutrons enveloped by an electron charge cloud and step by step we > > have put so many designer labels on the sub-parts -- sub-nuclear > > particles -- that at last count there were at least 100+ different > > names for such energy particles and growing!
> > Now, as we go deeper... and observe: the sub-atomic particles -- all > > flavours -- are just forms of packet (Quantum) energy connected with > > each other as Happenings, ie, "Haps" manifest as pulsating particles > > or waves depending on how we look at them or don't! [Heisenberg ist > > wunderbar!]
> > The "Haps" are the sequence in which the entire universe connects to > > create a grand holographic story, yes, the illusion of duality, which > > when looked at holistically is all just One space-time continuum of > > energy, which can be expressed as a grand manifestation of light or > > cosmic vibration simultaneously appearing and disappearing as matter, > > based on the illusory lens of observation set at simultaneous multiple > > planes of consciousness! No wonder, at first glance, it makes no > > sense. It confuses, disturbs and we end up being doubtful! No need to > > be doubtful of inherent volatilities or ripples in the pond, which is > > just a metaphor for the "Grand Narrative"!
> > What is HQR suggesting in a nutshell?
> > We ignore micro- and macro- layers, connections and connectivity at > > our peril because this is the interwoven fabric of the entire > > universe! As we evolve, the more we are able to connect with our > > within. Beyond people, events, places, stories, facts, fiction, > > things etc we re-create nascent haps in our mind-spirit matrix as > > suliminal and then neural networks. Step by step, everything appears > > connected within a "Grand Narrative." All becomes Holistic when we > > align the without with our within. The past, present and future merge > > into one when the immanent spirit triumphs over logic and the creative > > spark overtakes the mundane banality of our tedium-inspired illusory > > entrapment!
> > Holos is not just "Whole", it is essentially about recognising > > perfection: Why? The so called good, bad and ugly do not exist but > > only do so in the duality of our mind's perception. Holistically, all > > is there for a perfectly valid reason or completely not there for a > > perfectly valid reason manifest as Synchronicity! Perfectly timed, > > perfectly placed, perfectly connected!
> > If we were to revisit the original 30+ HQR Socratic dialogues what we > > would find is that even these humble thoughts have been expressed > > within them. Everything is connected with everything else and that is > > the "Grand Narrative" of our existence. Once we are able to recognise > > the Quantum nature of Energy, the Relativity of our existence > > suspended in an illusory -- disconnected -- duality of the mind (an > > entrapment) and that our true essence, the spirit, is Holistic and no > > different from the Cosmic Origin of the entire universe and beyond -- > > The Supra Universal Consciousness -- we are then able to recognise > > that Holistic Quantum Relativity = Spirit Mind Connectivity.
> > Within the dynamic HQR of our trinitised existence: The Father is the > > Supra Universal Consiousness (Divine and Primordial Awareness at all > > Eight planes); The Son is the Universal Consciousness (Director of > > Mental Awareness at Three lower planes); and The Spirit is the > > Consciousness (Individual Spirit or Soul's Awareness entrapped at a > > restricted number of lower planes) made Holy via the "Word" or > > "Vibration".
> > The teachings of Sant Mat "Way of the Saints" suggest that creation > > occurs through primordial "Vibration", a vibratory principle, known in > > various languages as "Naam", "Shabda", "Kalma", "Logos", and "Word", > > and that individual salvation and enlightenment is achieved when the > > human soul is put into contact with it through the agency of a Great > > Spiritual Master who has that principle fully manifest within ("Word > > made flesh"). Sant Mat masters state the Holy Spirit also mentioned in > > several Holy books, refers to this principle, citing many passages > > referring to "baptism in the Holy Spirit", revelations received while > > "in the Spirit", and Great Spiritual Masters and Philosopher > > Scientists -- Socrates, Pythagoras, Buddha, Lao Tse Tsu, Jesus, > > Maulana Rumi, Kabir and Kirpal et al -- curing with the Spirit as > > indications that they were conferring initiation into the esoteric > > practice of the "Word" - Surat Shabda Yoga - Soul Vibration Union > > during their lifetimes.
> > The moment the Spirit recognises that it is none other than a part of > > the Supra Universal Consciousness and acts as such, the duality > > imposed by the mental faculties is removed step by step. There is a > > rich narrative of connectivity going all the way back to creation put > > together Holistically with perfection, Quantised by Time and Energy, > > and then re-presented as Relativity as a Space-Time Continnum > > connected across multiple planes, which we cannot externally visualise > > as ONE, but only in our within and then alone via our "Rising > > Consciousness" that:
> > "Yes! We are indeed all One-in-All and All-in-One!"
> > [ENDS]
> > The "E8 Album" images in Volume Ihttp://ow.ly/kGJjand Volume II > >http://ow.ly/TAB9are visual intersections of Spirituality, Science, > > Art and Sustainability! Feel free to share them on your FB page by > > clicking share or you can tag yourself!
> > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Holistic Quantum Relativity (HQR)" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > holistic-quantum-relativity-hqr@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > holistic-quantum-relativity-hqr+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<holistic-quant um-relativity-hqr%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/holistic-quantum-relativity-hqr?hl=en.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
