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bugs

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Apr 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/28/00
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作為基督徒，我也曾經因為創世紀一些難解的疑問難為情過，
對著恌戰者的提問難為情，但當我從一個學者中明白了一個道理，
聖經的作用不是一本解釋科學、物理專門問題的書藉，
聖經是神向我們啟示祂與我們的關係，而且作為一本於出埃及時期，
摩西對著那時代的受眾而言，和他們解釋太陽的結構、宇宙的造法等問題，
大概是沒有那個必要的，那時代太約是中國的信史商代之時，
可想而知當時的宇宙觀是何等幼稚！他們只知太陽是從東面出來，
更何況和他們談論宇宙？
從此，對於那些科學的提問，作為基督徒，我們相信聖經正是神的話、神的默示，
我們也明白如何面對，也要留意那些自稱相信神，
但連聖經的內容也質疑的任何人、任何宗派，不要被他們的提問嚇怕，
要持守主的真理啊！

Sophia

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Apr 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/28/00
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I agree with you, in saying that the Bible is not the one book to explain
all of physics and natural phenomenon.

The Bible is telling the Creation story to bring across certain thesis of
the Faith: that,
God Created everything, and they are all good in themselves (in themselves
only);
Human nature is originally good until it is flawed by pride;
God is all powerful, and can materialize ex nihilo;
God prophecized of Mary the Mother crushing Satan through the saviour, the
Word incarnate.

The Bible is not to be taken literally. It means, the Bible says God created
the world in seven days, it doesn't mean that in 4004 BC September 1st, God
created the world (a calculation by bishop Ussher, from the Anglican
congregation). It is also nonsensical to believe that such a flood did
exist. All it is saying is that God has the power to cleanse evil, and thus
predicting the Baptism by water and the purification of the Jordan river.

Don't forget, the Bible is merely prophets writing "with the inspiration of
the divine will". The inspiration is only transposed, when they use the
limits of human comprehension and linguistics to express such divinity.
There is still a great margin of inaccuracy, and never mind the myths and
fables.

sophia

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Peter

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Apr 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/29/00
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I also agree with you. Human is so limited comparing with the mighty of our
Lord who created the universe. Human being just can't understand how God
work and it always put our Lord in a difficult position in explaining things
to us... Just like the father want to explain how to iterate a complex
algebra to his one year old kids. Sometimes we are just stubbon enough to
stick on the things we just cannot understand and still asking for an
answer.

Peter
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卡侖

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Apr 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/29/00
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對,
我們要專心仰賴耶和華, 不可依靠自己的聰明.

卡侖

Michael

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Apr 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/30/00
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bugs,

其實, 聖經第一章, 第一節已包含了現今科學的精華

現今科學對物質的看法, 要求, 在這章節已經有哂
所以, 在這個時代好, 或在那時代也好, 也時有用的

如你想知更多, 可以看 "創造論" 的書籍
天道書樓可以買到的

Sophia

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Apr 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/30/00
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"Michael" <pip...@ctimail.com> wrote in message
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> bugs,
>
> 其實, 聖經第一章, 第一節已包含了現今科學的精華
>
> 現今科學對物質的看法, 要求, 在這章節已經有哂
> 所以, 在這個時代好, 或在那時代也好, 也時有用的
>
> 如你想知更多, 可以看 "創造論" 的書籍
> 天道書樓可以買到的

You know, Catholics are not Creationists.
I for one does not believe in the literal creation out of a week.

What was there in the Bible is merely a fable, an epic telling morals and
underlining messages.

sophia

Lee Sau Dan

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May 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/3/00
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>>>>> "Michael" == Michael <pip...@ctimail.com> writes:

Michael> bugs, 其實, 聖經第一章, 第一節已包含了現今科學的精華

Michael> 現今科學對物質的看法, 要求, 在這章節已經有哂所以, 在這個
Michael> 時代好, 或在那時代也好, 也時有用的

這樣說，中國經典《易經》豈不是更了一不起嗎？它也包含著現代科學的精華：
「無極生太極，太極生兩儀，兩儀生四象，四象生八卦」，不是包含了大爆炸理
論、電磁埸論的精華嗎？甚至現今電腦所用的二進數的基礎，也包含在上面西句
中，更實踐在八卦及六十四卦之中。

傳聞《易經》已有五千年的歷史，你那本聖經的舊約又有多久呢？不要再做崇洋
狂吧！我國也有自己一套哲學和世界觀，不比西方的那套「落後」或差。


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卡侖

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May 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/4/00
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所有人類和其他生物的福祉和逆境, 來自七星和黃道十二宮.
黃道十二宮是光明派來的十二位使者; 七星卻是來自黑暗面的七個惡使.
七星專門壓迫生物, 把生物送上死亡之路和罪惡之途.
於是, 黃道十二宮和七星, 控制了整個世界的命運.

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> >>>>> "Michael" == Michael <pip...@ctimail.com> writes:
>
> Michael> bugs, 其實, 聖經第一章, 第一節已包含了現今科學的精華
>
> Michael> 現今科學對物質的看法, 要求, 在這章節已經有哂所以, 在這個
> Michael> 時代好, 或在那時代也好, 也時有用的
>
> 這樣說，中國經典《易經》豈不是更了一不起嗎？它也包含著現代科學的精華：
> 「無極生太極，太極生兩儀，兩儀生四象，四象生八卦」，不是包含了大爆炸理
> 論、電磁埸論的精華嗎？甚至現今電腦所用的二進數的基礎，也包含在上面西句
> 中，更實踐在八卦及六十四卦之中。
>

Carmen Adkins

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May 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/9/00
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I respectfully disagree with your opinion about the Bible's veracity. I
believe that it's the Holy Word of God, given to us as one means of
communicating HIs love for us.

"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
correcting and training in righteousness." 2 Timothy 3:16

I also believe that it is a factual account of earth and mankind's
history. I believe in a literal 7-day creation and a global flood.

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Genesis 1:1

I find it unspeakably sad that the theory of evolution has stolen our
identity from us. God spoke the rest of the universe into existence;
yet he saved His very breath for Man.

"the Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed
into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living
being." Genesis 2:7

I believe that Almighty God loves each and every one of us and desires
intimate relationships with us. Our sin separates us from God, but He
provided a bridge to span that yawning chasm.

"For God so love the world that He gave His one and only Son, that
whoever believes in HIm shall not perish but have eternal life." John
3:16


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