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Masochism is only so fun until you asphyxiate.....oooooh like Carradine?

And hell is truth seen too late.

* * * * *
http://www.vdare.com/bradley/090616_hate_crime.htm

Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.
(Guess Why Not)

By Peter Bradley

Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a
front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the
media seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a
hate criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who
denies the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy
theories.

The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the
Southern Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate
groups threatened by diversity:

"Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the
latest in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing
extremist �lone wolves� over the past three months. When shocking
violence like this arises, commentators point to various factors
including mental illness, political debates and the availability of guns.


�We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding
hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."

Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end
of his column.

Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:

"Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
perspective of the point of the gun to the victim. It's much bigger
than that. That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any
racist who takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'


�Instigation is critical here. We need to make a serious assessment of
those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009, 8:47PM]


But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
Holocaust Museum incident.

The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.

Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no
attention or outrage.

In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery
was a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the
store even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah
Muhammed). Yusuf Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and
Antoine Mackey, one of Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills
in the head with an assault rifle.

The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
murder:

"Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey
IV and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw
him walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of
racially motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.


�'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV
and Mackey.


�Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
shot him,' Broussard added.


�Bey IV later said, �We got a devil. White people are devils,� according
to Broussard's statement.


�Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about �a devil mentality. A black man
can be a devil if he's against his people.� Bey IV and his late father,
bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white
people as �devils.� And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita
Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often
made similar statements, referring to �white and Jew devils� and �media
devils� whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader
accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]

An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.

And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race
policy in America. The Mercury News article continues:

"Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate
Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a �hate-crime expert� who
chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. �Hate
crimes are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive
beyond a reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.�"

We can�t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James
Byrd and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much
problem peering into von Brunn's thought process.

According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.

He said:

"Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven
to a particular standard? It can be highly appropriate for
(prosecutors) tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional
items. Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."

The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San
Bernadino�s Brian Levin�who had no problem lecturing us about the threat
posed by "an old bigoted white man" only weeks later.

Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother
of the victim:

"Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
was white. So I don't see any reason why that (hate crime enhancement)
should not be part of the charges. For it to not to be there is horrible."

Horrible or not, the decision not to pursue hate crime charges against
the killers of Wills is not surprising given the race of the victim and
the shooters.

But Your Black Muslim Bakery has a long history of racial violence that
leaves von Brunn in the shade. Though held up as a model of black self
sufficiency, the bakery was linked to widespread physical and sexual
abuse, intimidation, welfare fraud, and murder. Bey IV and Mackey also
had good reason to joke about the Zebra Killings as some of the
killers�all black Muslims�were connected to the bakery according to
Clark Howard, author of Zebra, the definitive book on the murders.[Read
the first chapter (PDF)]

The Zebra Killings occurred in the San Francisco bay area between 1972
and 1974. Though seldom discussed, they are the worst case of
racially-motivated serial murder in U.S. history. Carried out by black
Muslims who went looking to kill "white devils", the attacks left up to
71 people dead and many injured.

Bey IV and Mackey were apparently looking to add to this legacy.

The late Sam Francis used to note that some hate crimes are more equal
than others. The different reactions to the von Brunn and Your Black
Muslim Bakery shootings prove that nothing has changed.

When the hate crimes bill is debated in the Senate you can be sure the
names Matthew Shepard, James Byrd, James von Brunn and Stephen Johns,
the black guard killed in the Holocaust Museum shooting, will be
highlighted.

You can also be sure that the names Michael Wills, Yusuf Bey IV and
Antoine Mackey will never be mentioned.

The hate crimes bill, if passed, will certainly stifle free speech and
strengthen the thought police. It will also be yet another exercise in
unequal and selective justice.

harmony

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Jun 17, 2009, 12:26:01 PM6/17/09
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snapshot it ain't, dear. just a crime, plain vanilla crime.


"RichAsianKid" <RichAs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Masochism is only so fun until you asphyxiate.....oooooh like Carradine?
>
> And hell is truth seen too late.
>
> * * * * *
> http://www.vdare.com/bradley/090616_hate_crime.htm
>

> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.

> (Guess Why Not)
>
> By Peter Bradley
>

> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a

> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
>
> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
> threatened by diversity:
>
> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist �lone
> wolves� over the past three months. When shocking violence like this

> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
> political debates and the availability of guns.
>
>

> �We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding

> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>
> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
> his column.
>
> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>
> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim. It's much bigger than
> that. That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'
>
>

> �Instigation is critical here. We need to make a serious assessment of

> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
> 8:47PM]
>
>
> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
> Holocaust Museum incident.
>
> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>
> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
> or outrage.
>
> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
> assault rifle.
>
> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
> murder:
>
> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.
>
>

> �'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
> Mackey.
>
>
> �Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
> shot him,' Broussard added.
>
>
> �Bey IV later said, �We got a devil. White people are devils,� according
> to Broussard's statement.
>
>
> �Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about �a devil mentality. A black man
> can be a devil if he's against his people.� Bey IV and his late father,

> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

> people as �devils.� And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita

> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

> made similar statements, referring to �white and Jew devils� and �media
> devils� whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader

> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
>
> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
>
> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race policy
> in America. The Mercury News article continues:
>
> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a �hate-crime expert� who
> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. �Hate crimes

> are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive beyond a

> reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.�"
>
> We can�t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James Byrd

> and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much problem
> peering into von Brunn's thought process.
>
> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
>
> He said:
>
> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven to
> a particular standard? It can be highly appropriate for (prosecutors)
> tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional items.
> Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."
>

> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San Bernadino�s
> Brian Levin�who had no problem lecturing us about the threat posed by "an

> old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
>
> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother of
> the victim:
>
> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
> was white. So I don't see any reason why that (hate crime enhancement)
> should not be part of the charges. For it to not to be there is horrible."
>
> Horrible or not, the decision not to pursue hate crime charges against the
> killers of Wills is not surprising given the race of the victim and the
> shooters.
>
> But Your Black Muslim Bakery has a long history of racial violence that
> leaves von Brunn in the shade. Though held up as a model of black self
> sufficiency, the bakery was linked to widespread physical and sexual
> abuse, intimidation, welfare fraud, and murder. Bey IV and Mackey also had

> good reason to joke about the Zebra Killings as some of the killers�all
> black Muslims�were connected to the bakery according to Clark Howard,

RichAsianKid

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Jun 20, 2009, 1:25:47 AM6/20/09
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harmony wrote:
> snapshot it ain't, dear. just a crime, plain vanilla crime.

How many black-on-white rapes are there compared to white-on-black rapes
in America? Any guesses? Or RichAsianKid will soon post!

>
>
> "RichAsianKid" <RichAs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h1a2rp$5o1$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Masochism is only so fun until you asphyxiate.....oooooh like Carradine?
>>
>> And hell is truth seen too late.
>>
>> * * * * *
>> http://www.vdare.com/bradley/090616_hate_crime.htm
>>

>> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.

>> (Guess Why Not)
>>
>> By Peter Bradley
>>

>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a

>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
>>
>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
>> threatened by diversity:
>>
>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist �lone
>> wolves� over the past three months. When shocking violence like this

>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
>> political debates and the availability of guns.
>>
>>

>> �We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding

>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>>
>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
>> his column.
>>
>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>>
>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim. It's much bigger than
>> that. That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'
>>
>>

>> �Instigation is critical here. We need to make a serious assessment of

>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
>> 8:47PM]
>>
>>
>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
>> Holocaust Museum incident.
>>
>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>>
>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
>> or outrage.
>>
>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
>> assault rifle.
>>
>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
>> murder:
>>
>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.
>>
>>

>> �'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
>> Mackey.
>>
>>
>> �Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
>> shot him,' Broussard added.
>>
>>
>> �Bey IV later said, �We got a devil. White people are devils,� according
>> to Broussard's statement.
>>
>>
>> �Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about �a devil mentality. A black man
>> can be a devil if he's against his people.� Bey IV and his late father,

>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

>> people as �devils.� And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita

>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

>> made similar statements, referring to �white and Jew devils� and �media

>> devils� whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader

>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
>>
>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
>>
>> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race policy
>> in America. The Mercury News article continues:
>>
>> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
>> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
>> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

>> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a �hate-crime expert� who
>> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. �Hate crimes

>> are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive beyond a

>> reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.�"
>>
>> We can�t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James Byrd

>> and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much problem
>> peering into von Brunn's thought process.
>>
>> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
>> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
>>
>> He said:
>>
>> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven to
>> a particular standard? It can be highly appropriate for (prosecutors)
>> tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional items.
>> Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."
>>

>> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San Bernadino�s
>> Brian Levin�who had no problem lecturing us about the threat posed by "an

>> old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
>>
>> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
>> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother of
>> the victim:
>>
>> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
>> was white. So I don't see any reason why that (hate crime enhancement)
>> should not be part of the charges. For it to not to be there is horrible."
>>
>> Horrible or not, the decision not to pursue hate crime charges against the
>> killers of Wills is not surprising given the race of the victim and the
>> shooters.
>>
>> But Your Black Muslim Bakery has a long history of racial violence that
>> leaves von Brunn in the shade. Though held up as a model of black self
>> sufficiency, the bakery was linked to widespread physical and sexual
>> abuse, intimidation, welfare fraud, and murder. Bey IV and Mackey also had

>> good reason to joke about the Zebra Killings as some of the killers�all
>> black Muslims�were connected to the bakery according to Clark Howard,

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Jun 20, 2009, 1:55:00 AM6/20/09
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So?! It will not prove if America is in decline or not. Obama is the
first African American President, does that prove America is in
decline? No!

On Jun 20, 1:25 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> harmony wrote:
> > snapshot it ain't, dear. just a crime, plain vanilla crime.
>
> How many black-on-white rapes are there compared to white-on-black rapes
> in America? Any guesses? Or RichAsianKid will soon post!
>
>
>
>
>

> > "RichAsianKid" <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


> >news:h1a2rp$5o1$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >> Masochism is only so fun until you asphyxiate.....oooooh like Carradine?
>
> >> And hell is truth seen too late.
>
> >> * * * * *
> >>http://www.vdare.com/bradley/090616_hate_crime.htm
>

> >> Cal State’s Brian Levin And The Case Of The “Hate Crime” That Wasn’t.


> >> (Guess Why Not)
>
> >> By Peter Bradley
>

> >> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made “hate crimes” a


> >> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
> >> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
> >> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
> >> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
> >> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
>
> >> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
> >> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
> >> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
> >> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
> >> threatened by diversity:
>
> >> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
> >> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
> >> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

> >> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist ‘lone
> >> wolves’ over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


> >> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
> >> political debates and the availability of guns.
>

> >> “We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


> >> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
> >> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>
> >> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
> >> his column.
>
> >> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
> >> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>
> >> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
> >> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
> >> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim.  It's much bigger than
> >> that.  That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
> >> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'
>

> >> “Instigation is critical here.  We need to make a serious assessment of


> >> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
> >> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
> >> 8:47PM]
>
> >> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
> >> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
> >> Holocaust Museum incident.
>
> >> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>
> >> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
> >> or outrage.
>
> >> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
> >> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
> >> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
> >> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
> >> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
> >> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
> >> assault rifle.
>
> >> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
> >> murder:
>
> >> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
> >> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
> >> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
> >> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
> >> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.
>

> >> “'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
> >> Mackey.
>
> >> “Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
> >> shot him,' Broussard added.
>
> >> “Bey IV later said, ‘We got a devil. White people are devils,’ according
> >> to Broussard's statement.
>
> >> “Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about ‘a devil mentality. A black man
> >> can be a devil if he's against his people.’ Bey IV and his late father,


> >> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

> >> people as ‘devils.’ And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


> >> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

> >> made similar statements, referring to ‘white and Jew devils’ and ‘media
> >> devils’ whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


> >> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
> >> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
>
> >> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
> >> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
>
> >> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race policy
> >> in America. The Mercury News article continues:
>
> >> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
> >> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
> >> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

> >> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a ‘hate-crime expert’ who
> >> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. ‘Hate crimes


> >> are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive beyond a

> >> reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.’"
>
> >> We can’t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James Byrd


> >> and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much problem
> >> peering into von Brunn's thought process.
>
> >> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
> >> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
>
> >> He said:
>
> >> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven to
> >> a particular standard?  It can be highly appropriate for (prosecutors)
> >> tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional items.
> >> Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."
>

> >> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San Bernadino’s
> >> Brian Levin—who had no problem lecturing us about the threat posed by "an


> >> old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
>
> >> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
> >> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother of
> >> the victim:
>
> >> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
> >> was white. So I don't see any reason why that (hate crime enhancement)
> >> should not be part of the charges. For it to not to be there is horrible."
>
> >> Horrible or not, the decision not to pursue hate crime charges against the
> >> killers of Wills is not surprising given the race of the victim and the
> >> shooters.
>
> >> But Your Black Muslim Bakery has a long history of racial violence that
> >> leaves von Brunn in the shade. Though held up as a model of black self
> >> sufficiency, the bakery was linked to widespread physical and sexual
> >> abuse, intimidation, welfare fraud, and murder. Bey IV and Mackey also had

> >> good reason to joke about the Zebra Killings as some of the killers—all
> >> black Muslims—were connected to the bakery according to Clark Howard,


> >> author of Zebra, the definitive book on the murders.[Read the first
> >> chapter (PDF)]
>
> >> The Zebra Killings occurred in the San Francisco bay area between 1972 and
> >> 1974. Though seldom discussed, they are the worst case of
> >> racially-motivated serial murder in U.S. history. Carried out by black
> >> Muslims who went looking to kill "white devils", the attacks left up to 71
> >> people dead and many injured.
>
> >> Bey IV and Mackey were apparently looking to add to this legacy.
>
> >> The late Sam Francis used to note that some hate crimes are more equal
> >> than others. The different reactions to the von Brunn and Your Black
> >> Muslim Bakery shootings prove that nothing has changed.
>
> >> When the hate crimes bill is debated in the Senate you can be sure the
> >> names Matthew Shepard, James Byrd, James von Brunn and Stephen Johns, the
> >> black guard killed in the Holocaust Museum shooting, will be highlighted.
>
> >> You can also be sure that the names Michael Wills, Yusuf Bey IV and
> >> Antoine Mackey will never be mentioned.
>
> >> The hate crimes bill, if passed, will certainly stifle free speech and
> >> strengthen the thought police. It will also be yet another exercise in

> >> unequal and selective justice.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

RichAsianKid

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Jun 20, 2009, 2:03:00 AM6/20/09
to
cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> So?! It will not prove if America is in decline or not. Obama is the
> first African American President, does that prove America is in
> decline? No!
>

We'll see won't we - where is America heading?
Just a question: why are you so fixated on this black Messiah though?

> On Jun 20, 1:25 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> harmony wrote:
>>> snapshot it ain't, dear. just a crime, plain vanilla crime.
>> How many black-on-white rapes are there compared to white-on-black rapes
>> in America? Any guesses? Or RichAsianKid will soon post!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> "RichAsianKid" <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:h1a2rp$5o1$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Masochism is only so fun until you asphyxiate.....oooooh like Carradine?
>>>> And hell is truth seen too late.
>>>> * * * * *
>>>> http://www.vdare.com/bradley/090616_hate_crime.htm

>>>> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.


>>>> (Guess Why Not)
>>>> By Peter Bradley

>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a


>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
>>>> threatened by diversity:
>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist �lone
>>>> wolves� over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

>>>> �We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
>>>> his column.
>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim. It's much bigger than
>>>> that. That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

>>>> �Instigation is critical here. We need to make a serious assessment of


>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
>>>> 8:47PM]
>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
>>>> or outrage.
>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
>>>> assault rifle.
>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
>>>> murder:
>>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
>>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
>>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
>>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
>>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

>>>> �'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
>>>> Mackey.
>>>> �Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
>>>> shot him,' Broussard added.
>>>> �Bey IV later said, �We got a devil. White people are devils,� according
>>>> to Broussard's statement.
>>>> �Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about �a devil mentality. A black man
>>>> can be a devil if he's against his people.� Bey IV and his late father,


>>>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

>>>> people as �devils.� And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


>>>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

>>>> made similar statements, referring to �white and Jew devils� and �media

>>>> devils� whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


>>>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
>>>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
>>>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
>>>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
>>>> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race policy
>>>> in America. The Mercury News article continues:
>>>> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
>>>> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
>>>> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

>>>> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a �hate-crime expert� who
>>>> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. �Hate crimes


>>>> are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive beyond a

>>>> reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.�"
>>>> We can�t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James Byrd


>>>> and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much problem
>>>> peering into von Brunn's thought process.
>>>> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
>>>> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
>>>> He said:
>>>> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven to
>>>> a particular standard? It can be highly appropriate for (prosecutors)
>>>> tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional items.
>>>> Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."

>>>> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San Bernadino�s
>>>> Brian Levin�who had no problem lecturing us about the threat posed by "an


>>>> old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
>>>> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
>>>> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother of
>>>> the victim:
>>>> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
>>>> was white. So I don't see any reason why that (hate crime enhancement)
>>>> should not be part of the charges. For it to not to be there is horrible."
>>>> Horrible or not, the decision not to pursue hate crime charges against the
>>>> killers of Wills is not surprising given the race of the victim and the
>>>> shooters.
>>>> But Your Black Muslim Bakery has a long history of racial violence that
>>>> leaves von Brunn in the shade. Though held up as a model of black self
>>>> sufficiency, the bakery was linked to widespread physical and sexual
>>>> abuse, intimidation, welfare fraud, and murder. Bey IV and Mackey also had

>>>> good reason to joke about the Zebra Killings as some of the killers�all
>>>> black Muslims�were connected to the bakery according to Clark Howard,

cnhktwsgusukfrru

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Jun 20, 2009, 2:32:32 AM6/20/09
to
I don’t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think
superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in
2150, well, no surprise, that’s historical pattern. Roman Empire…
British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to
do with your so-called “black Messiah”? At least, your genes could not
prove you are superior to Obama, Tiger Woods, Indra Nooyi, etc, agree?

On Jun 20, 2:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > So?! It will not prove if America is in decline or not. Obama is the
> > first African American President, does that prove America is in
> > decline? No!
>
> We'll see won't we - where is America heading?
> Just a question: why are you so fixated on this black Messiah though?
>
>
>
> > On Jun 20, 1:25 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> harmony wrote:
> >>> snapshot it ain't, dear. just a crime, plain vanilla crime.
> >> How many black-on-white rapes are there compared to white-on-black rapes
> >> in America? Any guesses? Or RichAsianKid will soon post!
>
> >>> "RichAsianKid" <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:h1a2rp$5o1$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>>> Masochism is only so fun until you asphyxiate.....oooooh like Carradine?
> >>>> And hell is truth seen too late.
> >>>> * * * * *
> >>>>http://www.vdare.com/bradley/090616_hate_crime.htm

> >>>> Cal State’s Brian Levin And The Case Of The “Hate Crime” That Wasn’t.


> >>>> (Guess Why Not)
> >>>> By Peter Bradley

> >>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made “hate crimes” a


> >>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
> >>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
> >>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
> >>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
> >>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
> >>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
> >>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
> >>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
> >>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
> >>>> threatened by diversity:
> >>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
> >>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
> >>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

> >>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist ‘lone
> >>>> wolves’ over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


> >>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
> >>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

> >>>> “We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


> >>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
> >>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
> >>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
> >>>> his column.
> >>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
> >>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
> >>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
> >>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
> >>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim.  It's much bigger than
> >>>> that.  That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
> >>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

> >>>> “Instigation is critical here.  We need to make a serious assessment of


> >>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
> >>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
> >>>> 8:47PM]
> >>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
> >>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
> >>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
> >>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
> >>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
> >>>> or outrage.
> >>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
> >>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
> >>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
> >>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
> >>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
> >>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
> >>>> assault rifle.
> >>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
> >>>> murder:
> >>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
> >>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
> >>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
> >>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
> >>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

> >>>> “'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
> >>>> Mackey.
> >>>> “Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
> >>>> shot him,' Broussard added.
> >>>> “Bey IV later said, ‘We got a devil. White people are devils,’ according
> >>>> to Broussard's statement.
> >>>> “Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about ‘a devil mentality. A black man
> >>>> can be a devil if he's against his people.’ Bey IV and his late father,


> >>>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

> >>>> people as ‘devils.’ And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


> >>>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

> >>>> made similar statements, referring to ‘white and Jew devils’ and ‘media

> >>>> devils’ whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


> >>>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
> >>>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
> >>>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
> >>>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
> >>>> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race policy
> >>>> in America. The Mercury News article continues:
> >>>> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
> >>>> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
> >>>> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

> >>>> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a ‘hate-crime expert’ who
> >>>> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. ‘Hate crimes


> >>>> are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive beyond a

> >>>> reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.’"
> >>>> We can’t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James Byrd


> >>>> and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much problem
> >>>> peering into von Brunn's thought process.
> >>>> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
> >>>> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
> >>>> He said:
> >>>> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven to
> >>>> a particular standard?  It can be highly appropriate for (prosecutors)
> >>>> tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional items.
> >>>> Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."

> >>>> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San Bernadino’s
> >>>> Brian Levin—who had no problem lecturing us about the threat posed by "an


> >>>> old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
> >>>> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
> >>>> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother of
> >>>> the victim:
> >>>> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
> >>>> was white. So I don't see any reason why that (hate crime enhancement)
> >>>> should not be part of the charges. For it to not to be there is horrible."
> >>>> Horrible or not, the decision not to pursue hate crime charges against the
> >>>> killers of Wills is not surprising given the race of the victim and the
> >>>> shooters.
> >>>> But Your Black Muslim Bakery has a long history of racial violence that
> >>>> leaves von Brunn in the shade. Though held up as a model of black self
> >>>> sufficiency, the bakery was linked to widespread physical and sexual
> >>>> abuse, intimidation, welfare fraud, and murder. Bey IV and Mackey also had

> >>>> good reason to joke about the Zebra Killings as some of the killers—all
> >>>> black Muslims—were connected to the bakery according to Clark Howard,


> >>>> author of Zebra, the definitive book on the murders.[Read the first
> >>>> chapter (PDF)]
> >>>> The Zebra Killings occurred in the San Francisco bay area between 1972 and
> >>>> 1974. Though seldom discussed, they are the worst case of
> >>>> racially-motivated serial murder in U.S. history. Carried out by black
> >>>> Muslims who went looking to kill "white devils", the attacks left up to 71
> >>>> people dead and many injured.
> >>>> Bey IV and Mackey were apparently looking to add to this legacy.
> >>>> The late Sam Francis used to note that some hate crimes are more equal
> >>>> than others. The different reactions to the von Brunn and Your Black
> >>>> Muslim Bakery shootings prove that nothing has changed.
> >>>> When the hate crimes bill is debated in the Senate you can be sure the
> >>>> names Matthew Shepard, James Byrd, James von Brunn and Stephen Johns, the
> >>>> black guard killed in the Holocaust Museum shooting, will be highlighted.
> >>>> You can also be sure that the names Michael Wills, Yusuf Bey IV and
> >>>> Antoine Mackey will never be mentioned.
> >>>> The hate crimes bill, if passed, will certainly stifle free speech and
> >>>> strengthen the thought police. It will also be yet another exercise in
> >>>> unequal and selective justice.- Hide quoted text -

> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

RichAsianKid

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Jun 20, 2009, 2:50:52 AM6/20/09
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> I don�t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think

> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in
> 2150, well, no surprise, that�s historical pattern. Roman Empire�

> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to
> do with your so-called �black Messiah�? At least, your genes could not

> prove you are superior to Obama, Tiger Woods, Indra Nooyi, etc, agree?

And what has subsaharan Africa contributed to the rest of the world
culture since the 10,000 years of the Neolithic? Tell us please.

I agree however on shorter scale and on grander Darwinist scheme of
things European stock whites are committing collective suicide. Their
genetic contribution are eroded progressively. Where afterall is South
America now, residue of some forgotten Spanish-derived empire? Argentina
or Brazil? Bwahahaha!!! Ooops I forgot Bolivia! Compare them with small
but homogeneous and still prosperous Japan or Sweden.


>
> On Jun 20, 2:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> So?! It will not prove if America is in decline or not. Obama is the
>>> first African American President, does that prove America is in
>>> decline? No!
>> We'll see won't we - where is America heading?
>> Just a question: why are you so fixated on this black Messiah though?
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 20, 1:25 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> harmony wrote:
>>>>> snapshot it ain't, dear. just a crime, plain vanilla crime.
>>>> How many black-on-white rapes are there compared to white-on-black rapes
>>>> in America? Any guesses? Or RichAsianKid will soon post!
>>>>> "RichAsianKid" <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:h1a2rp$5o1$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> Masochism is only so fun until you asphyxiate.....oooooh like Carradine?
>>>>>> And hell is truth seen too late.
>>>>>> * * * * *
>>>>>> http://www.vdare.com/bradley/090616_hate_crime.htm

>>>>>> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.


>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a


>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist �lone
>>>>>> wolves� over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

>>>>>> �We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
>>>>>> his column.
>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim. It's much bigger than
>>>>>> that. That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
>>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

>>>>>> �Instigation is critical here. We need to make a serious assessment of


>>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
>>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
>>>>>> 8:47PM]
>>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
>>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
>>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
>>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
>>>>>> or outrage.
>>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
>>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
>>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
>>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
>>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
>>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
>>>>>> assault rifle.
>>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
>>>>>> murder:
>>>>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
>>>>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
>>>>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
>>>>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
>>>>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

>>>>>> �'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
>>>>>> Mackey.
>>>>>> �Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
>>>>>> shot him,' Broussard added.
>>>>>> �Bey IV later said, �We got a devil. White people are devils,� according
>>>>>> to Broussard's statement.
>>>>>> �Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about �a devil mentality. A black man
>>>>>> can be a devil if he's against his people.� Bey IV and his late father,


>>>>>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

>>>>>> people as �devils.� And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


>>>>>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

>>>>>> made similar statements, referring to �white and Jew devils� and �media

>>>>>> devils� whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


>>>>>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
>>>>>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
>>>>>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
>>>>>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
>>>>>> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race policy
>>>>>> in America. The Mercury News article continues:
>>>>>> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
>>>>>> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
>>>>>> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

>>>>>> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a �hate-crime expert� who
>>>>>> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. �Hate crimes


>>>>>> are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive beyond a

>>>>>> reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.�"
>>>>>> We can�t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James Byrd


>>>>>> and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much problem
>>>>>> peering into von Brunn's thought process.
>>>>>> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
>>>>>> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
>>>>>> He said:
>>>>>> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven to
>>>>>> a particular standard? It can be highly appropriate for (prosecutors)
>>>>>> tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional items.
>>>>>> Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."

>>>>>> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San Bernadino�s
>>>>>> Brian Levin�who had no problem lecturing us about the threat posed by "an


>>>>>> old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
>>>>>> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
>>>>>> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother of
>>>>>> the victim:
>>>>>> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
>>>>>> was white. So I don't see any reason why that (hate crime enhancement)
>>>>>> should not be part of the charges. For it to not to be there is horrible."
>>>>>> Horrible or not, the decision not to pursue hate crime charges against the
>>>>>> killers of Wills is not surprising given the race of the victim and the
>>>>>> shooters.
>>>>>> But Your Black Muslim Bakery has a long history of racial violence that
>>>>>> leaves von Brunn in the shade. Though held up as a model of black self
>>>>>> sufficiency, the bakery was linked to widespread physical and sexual
>>>>>> abuse, intimidation, welfare fraud, and murder. Bey IV and Mackey also had

>>>>>> good reason to joke about the Zebra Killings as some of the killers�all
>>>>>> black Muslims�were connected to the bakery according to Clark Howard,

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Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?

On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> > I don’t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


> > superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

> > 2150, well, no surprise, that’s historical pattern. Roman Empire…

> > British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

> > do with your so-called “black Messiah”? At least, your genes could not

> >>>>>> Cal State’s Brian Levin And The Case Of The “Hate Crime” That Wasn’t.


> >>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
> >>>>>> By Peter Bradley

> >>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made “hate crimes” a


> >>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
> >>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
> >>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
> >>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
> >>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
> >>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
> >>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
> >>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
> >>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
> >>>>>> threatened by diversity:
> >>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
> >>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
> >>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

> >>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist ‘lone
> >>>>>> wolves’ over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


> >>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
> >>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

> >>>>>> “We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


> >>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
> >>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
> >>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
> >>>>>> his column.
> >>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
> >>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
> >>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
> >>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
> >>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim.  It's much bigger than
> >>>>>> that.  That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
> >>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

> >>>>>> “Instigation is critical here.  We need to make a serious assessment of


> >>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
> >>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
> >>>>>> 8:47PM]
> >>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
> >>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
> >>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
> >>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
> >>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
> >>>>>> or outrage.
> >>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
> >>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
> >>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
> >>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
> >>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
> >>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
> >>>>>> assault rifle.
> >>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
> >>>>>> murder:
> >>>>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
> >>>>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
> >>>>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
> >>>>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
> >>>>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

> >>>>>> “'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
> >>>>>> Mackey.
> >>>>>> “Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
> >>>>>> shot him,' Broussard added.
> >>>>>> “Bey IV later said, ‘We got a devil. White people are devils,’ according
> >>>>>> to Broussard's statement.
> >>>>>> “Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about ‘a devil mentality. A black man
> >>>>>> can be a devil if he's against his people.’ Bey IV and his late father,


> >>>>>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

> >>>>>> people as ‘devils.’ And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


> >>>>>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

> >>>>>> made similar statements, referring to ‘white and Jew devils’ and ‘media

> >>>>>> devils’ whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


> >>>>>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
> >>>>>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
> >>>>>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
> >>>>>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
> >>>>>> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race policy
> >>>>>> in America. The Mercury News article continues:
> >>>>>> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
> >>>>>> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
> >>>>>> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

> >>>>>> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a ‘hate-crime expert’ who
> >>>>>> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. ‘Hate crimes


> >>>>>> are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive beyond a

> >>>>>> reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.’"
> >>>>>> We can’t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James Byrd


> >>>>>> and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much problem
> >>>>>> peering into von Brunn's thought process.
> >>>>>> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
> >>>>>> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
> >>>>>> He said:
> >>>>>> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven to
> >>>>>> a particular standard?  It can be highly appropriate for (prosecutors)
> >>>>>> tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional items.
> >>>>>> Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."

> >>>>>> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San Bernadino’s
> >>>>>> Brian Levin—who had no problem lecturing us about the threat posed by "an


> >>>>>> old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
> >>>>>> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
> >>>>>> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother of
> >>>>>> the victim:
> >>>>>> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
> >>>>>> was white. So I don't see any reason why that (hate crime enhancement)
> >>>>>> should not be part of the charges. For it to not to be there is horrible."
> >>>>>> Horrible or not, the decision not to pursue hate crime charges against the
> >>>>>> killers of Wills is not surprising given the race of the victim and the
> >>>>>> shooters.
> >>>>>> But Your Black Muslim Bakery has a long history of racial violence that
> >>>>>> leaves von Brunn in the shade. Though held up as a model of black self
> >>>>>> sufficiency, the bakery was linked to widespread physical and sexual
> >>>>>> abuse, intimidation, welfare fraud, and murder. Bey IV and Mackey also had

> >>>>>> good reason to joke about the Zebra Killings as some of the killers—all
> >>>>>> black Muslims—were connected to the bakery according to Clark Howard,


> >>>>>> author of Zebra, the definitive book on the murders.[Read the first
> >>>>>> chapter (PDF)]
> >>>>>> The Zebra Killings occurred in the San Francisco bay area between 1972 and
> >>>>>> 1974. Though seldom discussed, they are the worst case
>

> ...
>
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?

Why would you say that?

>
> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>> I don�t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that�s historical pattern. Roman Empire�

>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

>>> do with your so-called �black Messiah�? At least, your genes could not

>>>>>>>> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.


>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a


>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist �lone
>>>>>>>> wolves� over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

>>>>>>>> �We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
>>>>>>>> his column.
>>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
>>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
>>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
>>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim. It's much bigger than
>>>>>>>> that. That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
>>>>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

>>>>>>>> �Instigation is critical here. We need to make a serious assessment of


>>>>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
>>>>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
>>>>>>>> 8:47PM]
>>>>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
>>>>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
>>>>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
>>>>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>>>>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
>>>>>>>> or outrage.
>>>>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
>>>>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
>>>>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
>>>>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
>>>>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
>>>>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
>>>>>>>> assault rifle.
>>>>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
>>>>>>>> murder:
>>>>>>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
>>>>>>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
>>>>>>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
>>>>>>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
>>>>>>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

>>>>>>>> �'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
>>>>>>>> Mackey.
>>>>>>>> �Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
>>>>>>>> shot him,' Broussard added.
>>>>>>>> �Bey IV later said, �We got a devil. White people are devils,� according
>>>>>>>> to Broussard's statement.
>>>>>>>> �Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about �a devil mentality. A black man
>>>>>>>> can be a devil if he's against his people.� Bey IV and his late father,


>>>>>>>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

>>>>>>>> people as �devils.� And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


>>>>>>>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

>>>>>>>> made similar statements, referring to �white and Jew devils� and �media

>>>>>>>> devils� whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


>>>>>>>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
>>>>>>>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
>>>>>>>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
>>>>>>>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
>>>>>>>> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race policy
>>>>>>>> in America. The Mercury News article continues:
>>>>>>>> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
>>>>>>>> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
>>>>>>>> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

>>>>>>>> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a �hate-crime expert� who
>>>>>>>> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. �Hate crimes


>>>>>>>> are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive beyond a

>>>>>>>> reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.�"
>>>>>>>> We can�t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James Byrd


>>>>>>>> and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much problem
>>>>>>>> peering into von Brunn's thought process.
>>>>>>>> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
>>>>>>>> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
>>>>>>>> He said:
>>>>>>>> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven to
>>>>>>>> a particular standard? It can be highly appropriate for (prosecutors)
>>>>>>>> tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional items.
>>>>>>>> Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."

>>>>>>>> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San Bernadino�s
>>>>>>>> Brian Levin�who had no problem lecturing us about the threat posed by "an


>>>>>>>> old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
>>>>>>>> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
>>>>>>>> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother of
>>>>>>>> the victim:
>>>>>>>> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
>>>>>>>> was white. So I don't see any reason why that (hate crime enhancement)
>>>>>>>> should not be part of the charges. For it to not to be there is horrible."
>>>>>>>> Horrible or not, the decision not to pursue hate crime charges against the
>>>>>>>> killers of Wills is not surprising given the race of the victim and the
>>>>>>>> shooters.
>>>>>>>> But Your Black Muslim Bakery has a long history of racial violence that
>>>>>>>> leaves von Brunn in the shade. Though held up as a model of black self
>>>>>>>> sufficiency, the bakery was linked to widespread physical and sexual
>>>>>>>> abuse, intimidation, welfare fraud, and murder. Bey IV and Mackey also had

>>>>>>>> good reason to joke about the Zebra Killings as some of the killers�all
>>>>>>>> black Muslims�were connected to the bakery according to Clark Howard,


>>>>>>>> author of Zebra, the definitive book on the murders.[Read the first
>>>>>>>> chapter (PDF)]
>>>>>>>> The Zebra Killings occurred in the San Francisco bay area between 1972 and
>>>>>>>> 1974. Though seldom discussed, they are the worst case
>> ...
>>

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Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
for white Canada in decline, agree?

On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
>
> Why would you say that?
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>> I don’t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


> >>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

> >>> 2150, well, no surprise, that’s historical pattern. Roman Empire…

> >>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

> >>> do with your so-called “black Messiah”? At least, your genes could not

> >>>>>>>> Cal State’s Brian Levin And The Case Of The “Hate Crime” That Wasn’t.


> >>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
> >>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

> >>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made “hate crimes” a


> >>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
> >>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
> >>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
> >>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
> >>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
> >>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
> >>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
> >>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
> >>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
> >>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
> >>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
> >>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
> >>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

> >>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist ‘lone
> >>>>>>>> wolves’ over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


> >>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
> >>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

> >>>>>>>> “We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


> >>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
> >>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
> >>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
> >>>>>>>> his column.
> >>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
> >>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
> >>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
> >>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
> >>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim.  It's much bigger than
> >>>>>>>> that.  That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
> >>>>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

> >>>>>>>> “Instigation is critical here.  We need to make a serious assessment of


> >>>>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
> >>>>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
> >>>>>>>> 8:47PM]
> >>>>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
> >>>>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
> >>>>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
> >>>>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
> >>>>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
> >>>>>>>> or outrage.
> >>>>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
> >>>>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
> >>>>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
> >>>>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
> >>>>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
> >>>>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
> >>>>>>>> assault rifle.
> >>>>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
> >>>>>>>> murder:
> >>>>>>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
> >>>>>>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
> >>>>>>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
> >>>>>>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
> >>>>>>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

> >>>>>>>> “'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
> >>>>>>>> Mackey.
> >>>>>>>> “Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
> >>>>>>>> shot him,' Broussard added.
> >>>>>>>> “Bey IV later said, ‘We got a devil. White people are devils,’ according
> >>>>>>>> to Broussard's statement.
> >>>>>>>> “Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about ‘a devil mentality. A black man
> >>>>>>>> can be a devil if he's against his people.’ Bey IV and his late father,


> >>>>>>>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

> >>>>>>>> people as ‘devils.’ And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


> >>>>>>>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

> >>>>>>>> made similar statements, referring to ‘white and Jew devils’ and ‘media

> >>>>>>>> devils’ whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


> >>>>>>>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
> >>>>>>>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
> >>>>>>>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
> >>>>>>>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
> >>>>>>>> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race policy
> >>>>>>>> in America. The Mercury News article continues:
> >>>>>>>> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
> >>>>>>>> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
> >>>>>>>> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

> >>>>>>>> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a ‘hate-crime expert’ who
> >>>>>>>> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. ‘Hate crimes


> >>>>>>>> are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive beyond a

> >>>>>>>> reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.’"
> >>>>>>>> We can’t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James Byrd


> >>>>>>>> and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much problem
> >>>>>>>> peering into von Brunn's thought process.
> >>>>>>>> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
> >>>>>>>> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
> >>>>>>>> He said:
> >>>>>>>> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven to
> >>>>>>>> a particular standard?  It can be highly appropriate for (prosecutors)
> >>>>>>>> tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional items.
> >>>>>>>> Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."

> >>>>>>>> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San Bernadino’s
> >>>>>>>> Brian Levin—who had no problem lecturing us about the threat posed by "an


> >>>>>>>> old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
> >>>>>>>> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
> >>>>>>>> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother of
> >>>>>>>> the victim:
> >>>>>>>> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
> >>>>>>>> was white. So I don't see any reason why that (hate crime enhancement)
> >>>>>>>> should not be part of the charges. For it to not to be there is horrible."
> >>>>>>>> Horrible or not, the decision not to pursue hate crime charges against the
> >>>>>>>> killers of Wills is not surprising given the race of the victim and the
> >>>>>>>> shooters.
> >>>>>>>> But Your Black Muslim Bakery has a long history of racial violence that
> >>>>>>>> leaves von Brunn in the shade. Though held up as a model of black self
> >>>>>>>> sufficiency, the bakery was linked to widespread physical and sexual
>

> ...
>
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
> for white Canada in decline, agree?

Even more true then you're saying.


>
> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
>> Why would you say that?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>> I don�t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that�s historical pattern. Roman Empire�

>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

>>>>> do with your so-called �black Messiah�? At least, your genes could not

>>>>>>>>>> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.


>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a


>>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
>>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
>>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
>>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
>>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
>>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
>>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
>>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
>>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
>>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
>>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
>>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

>>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist �lone
>>>>>>>>>> wolves� over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


>>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
>>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

>>>>>>>>>> �We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


>>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
>>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
>>>>>>>>>> his column.
>>>>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
>>>>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>>>>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
>>>>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
>>>>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim. It's much bigger than
>>>>>>>>>> that. That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
>>>>>>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

>>>>>>>>>> �Instigation is critical here. We need to make a serious assessment of


>>>>>>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
>>>>>>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
>>>>>>>>>> 8:47PM]
>>>>>>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
>>>>>>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
>>>>>>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
>>>>>>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>>>>>>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
>>>>>>>>>> or outrage.
>>>>>>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
>>>>>>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
>>>>>>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
>>>>>>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
>>>>>>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
>>>>>>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
>>>>>>>>>> assault rifle.
>>>>>>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
>>>>>>>>>> murder:
>>>>>>>>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
>>>>>>>>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
>>>>>>>>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
>>>>>>>>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
>>>>>>>>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

>>>>>>>>>> �'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
>>>>>>>>>> Mackey.
>>>>>>>>>> �Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
>>>>>>>>>> shot him,' Broussard added.
>>>>>>>>>> �Bey IV later said, �We got a devil. White people are devils,� according
>>>>>>>>>> to Broussard's statement.
>>>>>>>>>> �Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about �a devil mentality. A black man
>>>>>>>>>> can be a devil if he's against his people.� Bey IV and his late father,


>>>>>>>>>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

>>>>>>>>>> people as �devils.� And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


>>>>>>>>>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

>>>>>>>>>> made similar statements, referring to �white and Jew devils� and �media

>>>>>>>>>> devils� whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


>>>>>>>>>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
>>>>>>>>>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
>>>>>>>>>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
>>>>>>>>>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
>>>>>>>>>> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race policy
>>>>>>>>>> in America. The Mercury News article continues:
>>>>>>>>>> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
>>>>>>>>>> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
>>>>>>>>>> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

>>>>>>>>>> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a �hate-crime expert� who
>>>>>>>>>> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. �Hate crimes


>>>>>>>>>> are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive beyond a

>>>>>>>>>> reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.�"
>>>>>>>>>> We can�t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James Byrd


>>>>>>>>>> and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much problem
>>>>>>>>>> peering into von Brunn's thought process.
>>>>>>>>>> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
>>>>>>>>>> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
>>>>>>>>>> He said:
>>>>>>>>>> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven to
>>>>>>>>>> a particular standard? It can be highly appropriate for (prosecutors)
>>>>>>>>>> tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional items.
>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."

>>>>>>>>>> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San Bernadino�s
>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin�who had no problem lecturing us about the threat posed by "an


>>>>>>>>>> old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
>>>>>>>>>> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
>>>>>>>>>> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother of
>>>>>>>>>> the victim:
>>>>>>>>>> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
>>>>>>>>>> was white. So I don't see any reason why that (hate crime enhancement)
>>>>>>>>>> should not be part of the charges. For it to not to be there is horrible."
>>>>>>>>>> Horrible or not, the decision not to pursue hate crime charges against the
>>>>>>>>>> killers of Wills is not surprising given the race of the victim and the
>>>>>>>>>> shooters.
>>>>>>>>>> But Your Black Muslim Bakery has a long history of racial violence that
>>>>>>>>>> leaves von Brunn in the shade. Though held up as a model of black self
>>>>>>>>>> sufficiency, the bakery was linked to widespread physical and sexual
>> ...
>>

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cnhktwsgusukfrru

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Jun 20, 2009, 3:33:37 AM6/20/09
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More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the
cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don’t you think you should
not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
ancestors came from to save white Canada.

On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
> > homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
> > for white Canada in decline, agree?
>
> Even more true then you're saying.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
> >> Why would you say that?
>
> >>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>> I don’t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


> >>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

> >>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that’s historical pattern. Roman Empire…

> >>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

> >>>>> do with your so-called “black Messiah”? At least, your genes could not

> >>>>>>>>>> Cal State’s Brian Levin And The Case Of The “Hate Crime” That Wasn’t.


> >>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
> >>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

> >>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made “hate crimes” a


> >>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
> >>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
> >>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
> >>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
> >>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
> >>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
> >>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
> >>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
> >>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
> >>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
> >>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
> >>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
> >>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

> >>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist ‘lone
> >>>>>>>>>> wolves’ over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


> >>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
> >>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

> >>>>>>>>>> “We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


> >>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
> >>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
> >>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
> >>>>>>>>>> his column.
> >>>>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
> >>>>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
> >>>>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
> >>>>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
> >>>>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim.  It's much bigger than
> >>>>>>>>>> that.  That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
> >>>>>>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

> >>>>>>>>>> “Instigation is critical here.  We need to make a serious assessment of


> >>>>>>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
> >>>>>>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
> >>>>>>>>>> 8:47PM]
> >>>>>>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
> >>>>>>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
> >>>>>>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
> >>>>>>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
> >>>>>>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
> >>>>>>>>>> or outrage.
> >>>>>>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
> >>>>>>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
> >>>>>>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
> >>>>>>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
> >>>>>>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
> >>>>>>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
> >>>>>>>>>> assault rifle.
> >>>>>>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
> >>>>>>>>>> murder:
> >>>>>>>>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
> >>>>>>>>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
> >>>>>>>>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
> >>>>>>>>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
> >>>>>>>>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

> >>>>>>>>>> “'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
> >>>>>>>>>> Mackey.
> >>>>>>>>>> “Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
> >>>>>>>>>> shot him,' Broussard added.
> >>>>>>>>>> “Bey IV later said, ‘We got a devil. White people are devils,’ according
> >>>>>>>>>> to Broussard's statement.
> >>>>>>>>>> “Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about ‘a devil mentality. A black man
> >>>>>>>>>> can be a devil if he's against his people.’ Bey IV and his late father,


> >>>>>>>>>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

> >>>>>>>>>> people as ‘devils.’ And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


> >>>>>>>>>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

> >>>>>>>>>> made similar statements, referring to ‘white and Jew devils’ and ‘media

> >>>>>>>>>> devils’ whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


> >>>>>>>>>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
> >>>>>>>>>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
> >>>>>>>>>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
> >>>>>>>>>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
> >>>>>>>>>> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race policy
> >>>>>>>>>> in America. The Mercury News article continues:
> >>>>>>>>>> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
> >>>>>>>>>> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
> >>>>>>>>>> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

> >>>>>>>>>> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a ‘hate-crime expert’ who
> >>>>>>>>>> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. ‘Hate crimes


> >>>>>>>>>> are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive beyond a

> >>>>>>>>>> reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.’"
> >>>>>>>>>> We can’t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James Byrd


> >>>>>>>>>> and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much problem
> >>>>>>>>>> peering into von Brunn's thought process.
> >>>>>>>>>> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
> >>>>>>>>>> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
> >>>>>>>>>> He said:
> >>>>>>>>>> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven to
> >>>>>>>>>> a particular standard?  It can be highly appropriate for (prosecutors)
> >>>>>>>>>> tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional items.
> >>>>>>>>>> Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."

> >>>>>>>>>> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San Bernadino’s
> >>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin—who had no problem lecturing us about the threat posed by "an


> >>>>>>>>>> old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
> >>>>>>>>>> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
> >>>>>>>>>> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother of
> >>>>>>>>>> the victim:
> >>>>>>>>>> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
> >>>>>>>>>> was
>

> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -

RichAsianKid

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Jun 20, 2009, 3:41:02 AM6/20/09
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the
> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don�t you think you should

> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
> ancestors came from to save white Canada.

Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
outcomes that matter.

>
> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
>> Even more true then you're saying.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
>>>> Why would you say that?
>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>> I don�t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that�s historical pattern. Roman Empire�

>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

>>>>>>> do with your so-called �black Messiah�? At least, your genes could not

>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.


>>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
>>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a


>>>>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
>>>>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
>>>>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
>>>>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
>>>>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
>>>>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

>>>>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist �lone
>>>>>>>>>>>> wolves� over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


>>>>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
>>>>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

>>>>>>>>>>>> �We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


>>>>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
>>>>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>>>>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>> his column.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
>>>>>>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim. It's much bigger than
>>>>>>>>>>>> that. That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
>>>>>>>>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

>>>>>>>>>>>> �Instigation is critical here. We need to make a serious assessment of


>>>>>>>>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
>>>>>>>>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 8:47PM]
>>>>>>>>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
>>>>>>>>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
>>>>>>>>>>>> or outrage.
>>>>>>>>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
>>>>>>>>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
>>>>>>>>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
>>>>>>>>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
>>>>>>>>>>>> assault rifle.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> murder:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
>>>>>>>>>>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
>>>>>>>>>>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
>>>>>>>>>>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

>>>>>>>>>>>> �'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mackey.
>>>>>>>>>>>> �Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
>>>>>>>>>>>> shot him,' Broussard added.
>>>>>>>>>>>> �Bey IV later said, �We got a devil. White people are devils,� according
>>>>>>>>>>>> to Broussard's statement.
>>>>>>>>>>>> �Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about �a devil mentality. A black man
>>>>>>>>>>>> can be a devil if he's against his people.� Bey IV and his late father,


>>>>>>>>>>>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

>>>>>>>>>>>> people as �devils.� And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


>>>>>>>>>>>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

>>>>>>>>>>>> made similar statements, referring to �white and Jew devils� and �media

>>>>>>>>>>>> devils� whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


>>>>>>>>>>>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
>>>>>>>>>>>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race policy
>>>>>>>>>>>> in America. The Mercury News article continues:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
>>>>>>>>>>>> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
>>>>>>>>>>>> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a �hate-crime expert� who
>>>>>>>>>>>> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. �Hate crimes


>>>>>>>>>>>> are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive beyond a

>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.�"
>>>>>>>>>>>> We can�t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James Byrd


>>>>>>>>>>>> and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much problem
>>>>>>>>>>>> peering into von Brunn's thought process.
>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
>>>>>>>>>>>> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
>>>>>>>>>>>> He said:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven to
>>>>>>>>>>>> a particular standard? It can be highly appropriate for (prosecutors)
>>>>>>>>>>>> tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional items.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."

>>>>>>>>>>>> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San Bernadino�s
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin�who had no problem lecturing us about the threat posed by "an


>>>>>>>>>>>> old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
>>>>>>>>>>>> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the victim:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>> ...
>>

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RichAsianKid

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Jun 20, 2009, 3:46:48 AM6/20/09
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the
> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don�t you think you should

> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
> ancestors came from to save white Canada.


>
> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
>> Even more true then you're saying.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
>>>> Why would you say that?
>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>> I don�t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that�s historical pattern. Roman Empire�

>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

>>>>>>> do with your so-called �black Messiah�? At least, your genes could not

>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.


>>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
>>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a


>>>>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
>>>>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
>>>>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
>>>>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
>>>>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
>>>>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

>>>>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist �lone
>>>>>>>>>>>> wolves� over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


>>>>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
>>>>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

>>>>>>>>>>>> �We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


>>>>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
>>>>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>>>>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>> his column.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
>>>>>>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim. It's much bigger than
>>>>>>>>>>>> that. That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
>>>>>>>>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

>>>>>>>>>>>> �Instigation is critical here. We need to make a serious assessment of


>>>>>>>>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
>>>>>>>>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 8:47PM]
>>>>>>>>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
>>>>>>>>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
>>>>>>>>>>>> or outrage.
>>>>>>>>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
>>>>>>>>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
>>>>>>>>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
>>>>>>>>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
>>>>>>>>>>>> assault rifle.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> murder:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
>>>>>>>>>>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
>>>>>>>>>>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
>>>>>>>>>>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

>>>>>>>>>>>> �'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mackey.
>>>>>>>>>>>> �Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
>>>>>>>>>>>> shot him,' Broussard added.
>>>>>>>>>>>> �Bey IV later said, �We got a devil. White people are devils,� according
>>>>>>>>>>>> to Broussard's statement.
>>>>>>>>>>>> �Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about �a devil mentality. A black man
>>>>>>>>>>>> can be a devil if he's against his people.� Bey IV and his late father,


>>>>>>>>>>>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

>>>>>>>>>>>> people as �devils.� And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


>>>>>>>>>>>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

>>>>>>>>>>>> made similar statements, referring to �white and Jew devils� and �media

>>>>>>>>>>>> devils� whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


>>>>>>>>>>>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
>>>>>>>>>>>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race policy
>>>>>>>>>>>> in America. The Mercury News article continues:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
>>>>>>>>>>>> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
>>>>>>>>>>>> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a �hate-crime expert� who
>>>>>>>>>>>> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. �Hate crimes


>>>>>>>>>>>> are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive beyond a

>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.�"
>>>>>>>>>>>> We can�t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James Byrd


>>>>>>>>>>>> and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much problem
>>>>>>>>>>>> peering into von Brunn's thought process.
>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
>>>>>>>>>>>> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
>>>>>>>>>>>> He said:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven to
>>>>>>>>>>>> a particular standard? It can be highly appropriate for (prosecutors)
>>>>>>>>>>>> tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional items.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."

>>>>>>>>>>>> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San Bernadino�s
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin�who had no problem lecturing us about the threat posed by "an


>>>>>>>>>>>> old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
>>>>>>>>>>>> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the victim:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>> ...
>>

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to
Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is
prosperous just lucky based on your “lotto theory”, i.e., it has
nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
mentioned. Is that right?

On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

> > cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don’t you think you should


> > not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
> > ancestors came from to save white Canada.
>
> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
> outcomes that matter.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
> >>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
> >>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
> >> Even more true then you're saying.
>
> >>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
> >>>> Why would you say that?
> >>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>> I don’t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


> >>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

> >>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that’s historical pattern. Roman Empire…

> >>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

> >>>>>>> do with your so-called “black Messiah”? At least, your genes could not

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State’s Brian Levin And The Case Of The “Hate Crime” That Wasn’t.


> >>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made “hate crimes” a


> >>>>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
> >>>>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
> >>>>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
> >>>>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
> >>>>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
> >>>>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
> >>>>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
> >>>>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

> >>>>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist ‘lone
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wolves’ over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


> >>>>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> “We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


> >>>>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> his column.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
> >>>>>>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim.  It's much bigger than
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that.  That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
> >>>>>>>>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

> >>>>>>>>>>>> “Instigation is critical here.  We need to make a serious assessment of


> >>>>>>>>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 8:47PM]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
> >>>>>>>>>>>> or outrage.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
> >>>>>>>>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
> >>>>>>>>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
> >>>>>>>>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
> >>>>>>>>>>>> assault rifle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> murder:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
> >>>>>>>>>>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
> >>>>>>>>>>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> “'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mackey.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> “Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
> >>>>>>>>>>>> shot him,' Broussard added.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> “Bey IV later said, ‘We got a devil. White people are devils,’ according
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to Broussard's statement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> “Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about ‘a devil mentality. A black man
> >>>>>>>>>>>> can be a devil if he's against his people.’ Bey IV and his late father,


> >>>>>>>>>>>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

> >>>>>>>>>>>> people as ‘devils.’ And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

> >>>>>>>>>>>> made similar statements, referring to ‘white and Jew devils’ and ‘media

> >>>>>>>>>>>> devils’ whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


> >>>>>>>>>>>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race policy
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in America. The Mercury News article continues:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a ‘hate-crime expert’ who
> >>>>>>>>>>>> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. ‘Hate crimes


> >>>>>>>>>>>> are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive beyond a

> >>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.’"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We can’t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James Byrd


> >>>>>>>>>>>> and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much problem
> >>>>>>>>>>>> peering into von Brunn's thought process.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> He said:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Why go through having to
>

> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -

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Jun 20, 2009, 4:04:47 AM6/20/09
to
cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is
> prosperous just lucky based on your �lotto theory�, i.e., it has

> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
> mentioned. Is that right?
>

Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
white power.

The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.

> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don�t you think you should


>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
>> outcomes that matter.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
>>>>>> Why would you say that?
>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>> I don�t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that�s historical pattern. Roman Empire�

>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called �black Messiah�? At least, your genes could not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a


>>>>>>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist �lone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wolves� over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his column.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim. It's much bigger than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �Instigation is critical here. We need to make a serious assessment of


>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8:47PM]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or outrage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assault rifle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> murder:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mackey.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shot him,' Broussard added.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �Bey IV later said, �We got a devil. White people are devils,� according
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Broussard's statement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about �a devil mentality. A black man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be a devil if he's against his people.� Bey IV and his late father,


>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people as �devils.� And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made similar statements, referring to �white and Jew devils� and �media

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devils� whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race policy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in America. The Mercury News article continues:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a �hate-crime expert� who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. �Hate crimes


>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive beyond a

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.�"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can�t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James Byrd


>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peering into von Brunn's thought process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Why go through having to
>> ...
>>

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Jun 20, 2009, 6:31:55 AM6/20/09
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Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they
all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.

On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

> > prosperous just lucky based on your “lotto theory”, i.e., it has


> > nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
> > mentioned. Is that right?
>
> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
> white power.
>
> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
>
>
>
> > On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

> >>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don’t you think you should


> >>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
> >>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
> >> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
> >> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
> >> outcomes that matter.
>
> >>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
> >>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
> >>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
> >>>> Even more true then you're saying.
> >>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
> >>>>>> Why would you say that?
> >>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>> I don’t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


> >>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

> >>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that’s historical pattern. Roman Empire…

> >>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

> >>>>>>>>> do with your so-called “black Messiah”? At least, your genes could not

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State’s Brian Levin And The Case Of The “Hate Crime” That Wasn’t.


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made “hate crimes” a


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist ‘lone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wolves’ over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> his column.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim.  It's much bigger than
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.  That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Instigation is critical here.  We need to make a serious assessment of


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8:47PM]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or outrage.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> assault rifle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> murder:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mackey.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shot him,' Broussard added.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Bey IV later said, ‘We got a devil. White people are devils,’ according
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Broussard's statement.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about ‘a devil mentality. A black man
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be a devil if he's against his people.’ Bey IV and his late father,


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people as ‘devils.’ And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> made similar statements, referring to ‘white and Jew devils’ and ‘media

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> devils’ whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime
>

> ...
>
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Because he thinks he will get an Obama check each month.

Iz be voten fah massah obama he be payin mah rent, gas, 50 inch TV, threads
and malt liquor.

Iz dont needs to work no mah.

Massah obama he be mah new massah sho'nuff


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RichAsianKid

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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.
>
> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they

> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.

Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
like the rest of your compatriots?)


>
> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

>>> prosperous just lucky based on your �lotto theory�, i.e., it has


>>> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
>>> mentioned. Is that right?
>> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
>> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
>> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
>> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
>> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
>> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
>> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
>> white power.
>>
>> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
>> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

>>>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don�t you think you should


>>>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
>>>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
>>>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
>>>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
>>>> outcomes that matter.
>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
>>>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
>>>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
>>>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
>>>>>>>> Why would you say that?
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> I don�t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


>>>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

>>>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that�s historical pattern. Roman Empire�

>>>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

>>>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called �black Messiah�? At least, your genes could not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist �lone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wolves� over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his column.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim. It's much bigger than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �Instigation is critical here. We need to make a serious assessment of


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8:47PM]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or outrage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assault rifle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> murder:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mackey.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shot him,' Broussard added.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �Bey IV later said, �We got a devil. White people are devils,� according
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Broussard's statement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about �a devil mentality. A black man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be a devil if he's against his people.� Bey IV and his late father,


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people as �devils.� And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made similar statements, referring to �white and Jew devils� and �media

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devils� whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime
>> ...
>>

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cnhktwsgusukfrru

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Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?

On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> > like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> > e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.
>

> > Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> > all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> > Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>
> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> like the rest of your compatriots?)
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

> >>> prosperous just lucky based on your “lotto theory”, i.e., it has


> >>> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
> >>> mentioned. Is that right?
> >> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
> >> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
> >> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
> >> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
> >> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
> >> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
> >> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
> >> white power.
>
> >> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
> >> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
>
> >>> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

> >>>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don’t you think you should


> >>>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
> >>>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
> >>>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
> >>>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
> >>>> outcomes that matter.
> >>>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
> >>>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
> >>>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
> >>>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
> >>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
> >>>>>>>> Why would you say that?
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


> >>>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

> >>>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that’s historical pattern. Roman Empire…

> >>>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

> >>>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called “black Messiah”? At least, your genes could not

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State’s Brian Levin And The Case Of The “Hate Crime” That Wasn’t.


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made “hate crimes” a


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist ‘lone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wolves’ over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his column.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim.  It's much bigger than
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.  That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Instigation is critical here.  We need to make a serious assessment of


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8:47PM]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or outrage.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assault rifle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> murder:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mackey.
>
> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -

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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?

Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.

>
> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>> like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

>>>>> prosperous just lucky based on your �lotto theory�, i.e., it has


>>>>> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
>>>>> mentioned. Is that right?
>>>> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
>>>> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
>>>> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
>>>> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
>>>> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
>>>> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
>>>> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
>>>> white power.
>>>> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
>>>> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

>>>>>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don�t you think you should


>>>>>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
>>>>>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
>>>>>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
>>>>>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
>>>>>> outcomes that matter.
>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
>>>>>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
>>>>>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
>>>>>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
>>>>>>>>>> Why would you say that?
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don�t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


>>>>>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that�s historical pattern. Roman Empire�

>>>>>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called �black Messiah�? At least, your genes could not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist �lone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wolves� over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his column.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim. It's much bigger than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �Instigation is critical here. We need to make a serious assessment of


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8:47PM]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or outrage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assault rifle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> murder:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey IV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw him
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of racially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mackey.
>> ...
>>
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That’s not a straight answer.

On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
> > than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
>
> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >> like the rest of your compatriots?)
>
> >>> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

> >>>>> prosperous just lucky based on your “lotto theory”, i.e., it has


> >>>>> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
> >>>>> mentioned. Is that right?
> >>>> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
> >>>> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
> >>>> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
> >>>> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
> >>>> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
> >>>> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
> >>>> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
> >>>> white power.
> >>>> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
> >>>> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
> >>>>> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

> >>>>>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don’t you think you should


> >>>>>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
> >>>>>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
> >>>>>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
> >>>>>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
> >>>>>> outcomes that matter.
> >>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
> >>>>>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
> >>>>>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
> >>>>>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
> >>>>>>>>>> Why would you say that?
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


> >>>>>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that’s historical pattern. Roman Empire…

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called “black Messiah”? At least, your genes could not

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State’s Brian Levin And The Case Of The “Hate Crime” That Wasn’t.


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made “hate crimes” a


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist ‘lone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wolves’ over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his column.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim.  It's much bigger than
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.  That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Instigation is critical here.  We need to make a serious assessment of


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8:47PM]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or outrage.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assault rifle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> murder:
>

> ...
>
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> That�s not a straight answer.
>


In the context of this thread and let's quote again:

---


On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.

> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> like the rest of your compatriots?)

---

Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
would you not think that?

> On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
>> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>> like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

>>>>>>> prosperous just lucky based on your �lotto theory�, i.e., it has


>>>>>>> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
>>>>>>> mentioned. Is that right?
>>>>>> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
>>>>>> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
>>>>>> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
>>>>>> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
>>>>>> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
>>>>>> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
>>>>>> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
>>>>>> white power.
>>>>>> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
>>>>>> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

>>>>>>>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don�t you think you should


>>>>>>>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
>>>>>>>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
>>>>>>>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
>>>>>>>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
>>>>>>>> outcomes that matter.
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
>>>>>>>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
>>>>>>>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
>>>>>>>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you say that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don�t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that�s historical pattern. Roman Empire�

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called �black Messiah�? At least, your genes could not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist �lone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wolves� over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his column.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim. It's much bigger than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �Instigation is critical here. We need to make a serious assessment of


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8:47PM]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holocaust Museum incident.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no attention
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or outrage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the store
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah Muhammed). Yusuf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and Antoine Mackey, one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills in the head with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assault rifle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> murder:
>> ...
>>

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Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
please...

On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> > That’s not a straight answer.


>
> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>
> ---
> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>
>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>
>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> ---
>
> Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> would you not think that?
>
>
>
> > On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
> >>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
> >> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
>
> >>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>> like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

> >>>>>>> prosperous just lucky based on your “lotto theory”, i.e., it has


> >>>>>>> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
> >>>>>>> mentioned. Is that right?
> >>>>>> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
> >>>>>> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
> >>>>>> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
> >>>>>> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
> >>>>>> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
> >>>>>> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
> >>>>>> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
> >>>>>> white power.
> >>>>>> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
> >>>>>> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
> >>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

> >>>>>>>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don’t you think you should


> >>>>>>>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
> >>>>>>>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
> >>>>>>>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
> >>>>>>>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
> >>>>>>>> outcomes that matter.
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
> >>>>>>>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
> >>>>>>>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
> >>>>>>>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you say that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that’s historical pattern. Roman Empire…

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called “black Messiah”? At least, your genes could not

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State’s Brian Levin And The Case Of The “Hate Crime” That Wasn’t.


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made “hate crimes” a


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist ‘lone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wolves’ over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his column.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim.  It's much bigger than
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.  That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist
>

> ...
>
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> please...


Thank you.


>
>
> On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>
>> ---
>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>
>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>
>> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>> > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>> > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>> > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>> ---
>>
>> Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
>> would you not think that?
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
>>>> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>> like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

>>>>>>>>> prosperous just lucky based on your �lotto theory�, i.e., it has


>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
>>>>>>>>> mentioned. Is that right?
>>>>>>>> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
>>>>>>>> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
>>>>>>>> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
>>>>>>>> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
>>>>>>>> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
>>>>>>>> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
>>>>>>>> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
>>>>>>>> white power.
>>>>>>>> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
>>>>>>>> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

>>>>>>>>>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don�t you think you should


>>>>>>>>>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
>>>>>>>>>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
>>>>>>>>>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
>>>>>>>>>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
>>>>>>>>>> outcomes that matter.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you say that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don�t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that�s historical pattern. Roman Empire�

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called �black Messiah�? At least, your genes could not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist �lone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wolves� over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his column.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim. It's much bigger than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any racist
>> ...
>>

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That’s not a straight answer.

Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
please...

On Jun 21, 3:00 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> > than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> > please...
>
> Thank you.
>
>  >
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>
> >> ---
> >> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>
> >>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>
> >>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >> ---
>
> >> Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> >> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> >> would you not think that?
>
> >>> On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
> >>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
> >>>> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
> >>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>> like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

> >>>>>>>>> prosperous just lucky based on your “lotto theory”, i.e., it has


> >>>>>>>>> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
> >>>>>>>>> mentioned. Is that right?
> >>>>>>>> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
> >>>>>>>> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
> >>>>>>>> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
> >>>>>>>> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
> >>>>>>>> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
> >>>>>>>> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
> >>>>>>>> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
> >>>>>>>> white power.
> >>>>>>>> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
> >>>>>>>> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

> >>>>>>>>>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don’t you think you should


> >>>>>>>>>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
> >>>>>>>>>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
> >>>>>>>>>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
> >>>>>>>>>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
> >>>>>>>>>> outcomes that matter.
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you say that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that’s historical pattern. Roman Empire…

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called “black Messiah”? At least, your genes could not

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State’s Brian Levin And The Case Of The “Hate Crime” That Wasn’t.


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made “hate crimes” a


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist ‘lone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wolves’ over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
>

> ...
>
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> That�s not a straight answer.

>
> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> please...

I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
and that is:

"In the context of this thread and let's quote again:

---
On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.

> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> like the rest of your compatriots?)
---

"Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
would you not think that?"

So.

Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
questions I'll answer yours.

>
> On Jun 21, 3:00 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>> please...
>> Thank you.
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>>>> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>>> ---
>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>> > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>> > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>> > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>> ---
>>>> Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
>>>> would you not think that?
>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
>>>>>> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>>>> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>>>> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>> like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

>>>>>>>>>>> prosperous just lucky based on your �lotto theory�, i.e., it has


>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned. Is that right?
>>>>>>>>>> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
>>>>>>>>>> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
>>>>>>>>>> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
>>>>>>>>>> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
>>>>>>>>>> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
>>>>>>>>>> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
>>>>>>>>>> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
>>>>>>>>>> white power.
>>>>>>>>>> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
>>>>>>>>>> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don�t you think you should


>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
>>>>>>>>>>>> outcomes that matter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you say that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don�t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that�s historical pattern. Roman Empire�

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called �black Messiah�? At least, your genes could not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a hate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who denies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy theories.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the Southern
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate groups
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened by diversity:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the latest

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing extremist �lone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wolves� over the past three months. When shocking violence like this


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arises, commentators point to various factors including mental illness,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> political debates and the availability of guns.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end of
>> ...
>>

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I didn’t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.

If you don’t want to answer my question, that’s ok.

My question is

Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
please...

I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That’s an example
of statistical innumeracy, agree?

On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> > That’s not a straight answer.


>
> > Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> > than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> > please...
>
> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
> and that is:
>
> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>
> ---
> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>
>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>
>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> ---
>
> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> would you not think that?"
>
> So.
>
> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
> questions I'll answer yours.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 21, 3:00 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>> please...
> >> Thank you.
>
> >>> On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>>> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
> >>>> ---
> >>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>> ---
> >>>> Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> >>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> >>>> would you not think that?
> >>>>> On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
> >>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
> >>>>>> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
> >>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>>> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>>> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>> like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

> >>>>>>>>>>> prosperous just lucky based on your “lotto theory”, i.e., it has


> >>>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
> >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned. Is that right?
> >>>>>>>>>> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
> >>>>>>>>>> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
> >>>>>>>>>> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
> >>>>>>>>>> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
> >>>>>>>>>> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
> >>>>>>>>>> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
> >>>>>>>>>> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
> >>>>>>>>>> white power.
> >>>>>>>>>> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
> >>>>>>>>>> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don’t you think you should


> >>>>>>>>>>>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
> >>>>>>>>>>>> outcomes that matter.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you say that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that’s historical pattern. Roman Empire…

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called “black Messiah”? At least, your genes could not

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State’s Brian Levin And The Case Of The “Hate Crime” That Wasn’t.


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made
>

> ...
>
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> I didn�t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
>
> If you don�t want to answer my question, that�s ok.

>
> My question is
>
> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> please...
>
> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That�s an example
> of statistical innumeracy, agree?

I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once

the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that

Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor. What
was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
yourself.


>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>
> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
person
> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
*therefore*
> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> > like the rest of your compatriots?)


>

> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>> please...
>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
>> and that is:
>>
>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>
>> ---
>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>
>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>
>> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>> > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>> > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>> > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>> ---
>>
>> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
>> would you not think that?"
>>
>> So.
>>
>> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
>> questions I'll answer yours.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 21, 3:00 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>> please...
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>>>>>> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>> > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>> > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>> > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
>>>>>> would you not think that?
>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
>>>>>>>> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>>>>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>>>>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>>>>>> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>>>>>> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>>>> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>>>> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>>>> like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

>>>>>>>>>>>>> prosperous just lucky based on your �lotto theory�, i.e., it has


>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned. Is that right?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
>>>>>>>>>>>> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
>>>>>>>>>>>> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
>>>>>>>>>>>> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
>>>>>>>>>>>> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
>>>>>>>>>>>> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
>>>>>>>>>>>> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
>>>>>>>>>>>> white power.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
>>>>>>>>>>>> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don�t you think you should


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outcomes that matter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you say that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don�t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that�s historical pattern. Roman Empire�

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called �black Messiah�? At least, your genes could not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Guess Why Not)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Peter Bradley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made
>> ...
>>

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So what? In the end, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in
Canada… would envy Michael Jordan’s rich and famous and want a pair of
Jordan sneakers but they don’t envy RAK at all. And no one including
RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire
Carlos Slim in Mexico. That’s statistical innumeracy. That’s
individualism.

On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> > I didn’t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
>
> > If you don’t want to answer my question, that’s ok.


>
> > My question is
>
> > Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> > than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> > please...
>

> > I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That’s an example


> > of statistical innumeracy, agree?
>
> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor.  What
> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
> yourself.
>
>   >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>  >  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>  >  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>  >  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


>  >  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>  >  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>  >
>  >  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
> person
>  >  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
> *therefore*
>  >  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>  >  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>  >  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>  >  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>> please...
> >> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
> >> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
> >> and that is:
>
> >> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>
> >> ---
> >> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>
> >>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>
> >>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >> ---
>
> >> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> >> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> >> would you not think that?"
>
> >> So.
>
> >> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
> >> questions I'll answer yours.
>
> >>> On Jun 21, 3:00 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>> please...
> >>>> Thank you.
> >>>>> On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>>>>> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>> Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> >>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> >>>>>> would you not think that?
> >>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
> >>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
> >>>>>>>> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>>>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>>>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>>>>> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>>> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>>> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>>> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>>> like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> prosperous just lucky based on your “lotto theory”, i.e., it has


> >>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned. Is that right?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
> >>>>>>>>>>>> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
> >>>>>>>>>>>> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
> >>>>>>>>>>>> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> white power.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
> >>>>>>>>>>>> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don’t you think you should


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> outcomes that matter.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you say that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that’s historical pattern. Roman Empire…

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called “black Messiah”? At least, your genes could
>
> ...
>
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> So what? In the end, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in
> Canada� would envy Michael Jordan�s rich and famous and want a pair of
> Jordan sneakers but they don�t envy RAK at all. And no one including

> RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire
> Carlos Slim in Mexico. That�s statistical innumeracy. That�s
> individualism.

Doesn't change the fact Africa is in general one pathetic stone-age
continent, India is just another third world nation overall etc. You get
the picture - say, should a 6'2" woman be proof that women are taller
than men in general? No, exceptions are precisely that - exceptions, and
are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!!!!!

As for individualism, so-called "kin selection" easily takes care of
that. If individualism is really such an overriding imperative, why do
people not love strangers the same way as their own biological families
as in kidney donations or bone marrow transplants? In fact, why are
step-children so much more likely to be killed than biological children?


>
> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>> I didn�t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
>>> If you don�t want to answer my question, that�s ok.


>>> My question is
>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>> please...

>>> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That�s an example


>>> of statistical innumeracy, agree?
>> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
>> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
>> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
>> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
>> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
>> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor. What
>> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
>> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
>> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
>> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
>> yourself.
>>
>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>> > >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>> > >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>> > >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>> > >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>> > >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>> >
>> > > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
>> person
>> > > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
>> *therefore*
>> > > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>> > > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>> > > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>> > > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>> please...
>>>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
>>>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
>>>> and that is:
>>>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>>> ---
>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>> > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>> > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>> > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>> ---
>>>> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
>>>> would you not think that?"
>>>> So.
>>>> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
>>>> questions I'll answer yours.
>>>>> On Jun 21, 3:00 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>> please...
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>>>>>>>> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>>>> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>>>> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>> > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>> > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>> > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
>>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
>>>>>>>> would you not think that?
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
>>>>>>>>>> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>>>>>>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>>>>>>>> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>>>>>> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>>>>>> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>>>>>> like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prosperous just lucky based on your �lotto theory�, i.e., it has


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned. Is that right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> white power.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don�t you think you should


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outcomes that matter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you say that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don�t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that�s historical pattern. Roman Empire�

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called �black Messiah�? At least, your genes could
>> ...
>>
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It still does not change the fact that Obama is US President, India
born Indra Nooyi is Pepsi CEO. And RAK? Nobody!

On Jun 25, 7:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > So what? In the end, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in

> > Canada… would envy Michael Jordan’s rich and famous and want a pair of
> > Jordan sneakers but they don’t envy RAK at all. And no one including


> > RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire

> > Carlos Slim in Mexico. That’s statistical innumeracy. That’s


> > individualism.
>
> Doesn't change the fact Africa is in general one pathetic stone-age
> continent, India is just another third world nation overall etc. You get
> the picture - say, should a 6'2" woman be proof that women are taller
> than men in general? No, exceptions are precisely that - exceptions, and
> are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!!!!!
>
> As for individualism, so-called "kin selection" easily takes care of
> that. If individualism is really such an overriding imperative, why do
> people not love strangers the same way as their own biological families
> as in kidney donations or bone marrow transplants? In fact, why are
> step-children so much more likely to be killed than biological children?
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>> I didn’t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
> >>> If you don’t want to answer my question, that’s ok.


> >>> My question is
> >>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>> please...

> >>> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That’s an example


> >>> of statistical innumeracy, agree?
> >> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
> >> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
> >> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
> >> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
> >> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
> >> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor.  What
> >> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
> >> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
> >> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
> >> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
> >> yourself.
>
> >>   >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>  >  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>  >  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>  >  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>  >  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>  >  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>
> >>  >  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
> >> person
> >>  >  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
> >> *therefore*
> >>  >  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>  >  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>  >  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>  >  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>
> >>> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>> please...
> >>>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
> >>>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
> >>>> and that is:
> >>>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
> >>>> ---
> >>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>> ---
> >>>> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> >>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> >>>> would you not think that?"
> >>>> So.
> >>>> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
> >>>> questions I'll answer yours.
> >>>>> On Jun 21, 3:00 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>> please...
> >>>>>> Thank you.
> >>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>>>>>>> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>>>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>> Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> >>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> >>>>>>>> would you not think that?
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
> >>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
> >>>>>>>>>> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>>>>>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>>>>> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>>>>> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>>>>> like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prosperous just lucky based on your “lotto theory”, i.e., it has


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned. Is that right?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> white power.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don’t you think you should


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outcomes that matter.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you say that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that’s historical pattern. Roman Empire…

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called “black Messiah”? At least, your genes could
> >> ...
>
> >> read more »- Hide quoted text -
>
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> It still does not change the fact that Obama is US President, India
> born Indra Nooyi is Pepsi CEO. And RAK? Nobody!

Well, RAK would be more than way happy....and content too!!... to be
himself than someone who merely or probably got in thru pity and charity
or cosmetics or seen as such. And besides, once again, kin selection
kicks in. Flash in the pan in long-term Darwinian sense, e.g.:

http://tinyurl.com/ptjcfz
"Forty-five percent of black children whose parents were solidly middle
class in 1968 -- a stratum with a median income of $55,600 in
inflation-adjusted dollars -- grew up to be among the lowest fifth of
the nation's earners, with a median family income of $23,100. Only 16
percent of whites experienced similar downward mobility. At the same
time, 48 percent of black children whose parents were in an economic
bracket with a median family income of $41,700 sank into the lowest
income group."

Where will a rich blacks' kid typically end up?

Nature's just unfair. Sorry!

Where is Obama's bro again? Why are successful blacks outliers even
within their families and within their own clan, unlike Jews?

It's not the mileage; it's the make.

>
> On Jun 25, 7:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> So what? In the end, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in

>>> Canada� would envy Michael Jordan�s rich and famous and want a pair of
>>> Jordan sneakers but they don�t envy RAK at all. And no one including


>>> RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire

>>> Carlos Slim in Mexico. That�s statistical innumeracy. That�s


>>> individualism.
>> Doesn't change the fact Africa is in general one pathetic stone-age
>> continent, India is just another third world nation overall etc. You get
>> the picture - say, should a 6'2" woman be proof that women are taller
>> than men in general? No, exceptions are precisely that - exceptions, and
>> are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!!!!!
>>
>> As for individualism, so-called "kin selection" easily takes care of
>> that. If individualism is really such an overriding imperative, why do
>> people not love strangers the same way as their own biological families
>> as in kidney donations or bone marrow transplants? In fact, why are
>> step-children so much more likely to be killed than biological children?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>> I didn�t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
>>>>> If you don�t want to answer my question, that�s ok.


>>>>> My question is
>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>> please...

>>>>> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That�s an example


>>>>> of statistical innumeracy, agree?
>>>> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
>>>> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
>>>> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
>>>> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
>>>> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
>>>> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor. What
>>>> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
>>>> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
>>>> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
>>>> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
>>>> yourself.
>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>> > >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>> > >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>> > >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>> > >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>> > >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>> > > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
>>>> person
>>>> > > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
>>>> *therefore*
>>>> > > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>> > > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>> > > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>> > > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>> please...
>>>>>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
>>>>>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
>>>>>> and that is:
>>>>>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>> > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>> > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>> > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
>>>>>> would you not think that?"
>>>>>> So.
>>>>>> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
>>>>>> questions I'll answer yours.
>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 3:00 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>>>> please...
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>>>>>>>>>> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>>> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>>>> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>>>> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>>>> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>>>> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>>>>>> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>>>>>> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>>>> > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>>>> > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>>>> > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
>>>>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
>>>>>>>>>> would you not think that?
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now you are talking lotto theory, do you mean Japan or Sweden is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prosperous just lucky based on your �lotto theory�, i.e., it has


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with its homogeneous society as you previously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned. Is that right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well life's one big genetic lottery no? Some are smart and some are rich
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and other's just ain't. Life's just plain plain plain plain unfair! Like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some child's cry! You're just egalitarian at heart and that's what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're driving at really, correct RichAsianKid if he's wrong! And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heterogeneity is a tool to achieve that - more immigrants, more welfare,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more purported charity and moral virtue. Import enough browns to America
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and you may even get some brown revolution in order to speak truth to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> white power.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The real question is why Japan or Sweden or even China shouldn't learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from tried-and-true America's costly mistakes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:41 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More true? So you mean you are not just the cause but more than the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause for white Canada in decline. Then, don�t you think you should


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be a parasite in Canada and should move back to China where you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ancestors came from to save white Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demography is still destiny....like I said soooooo many times before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW causes are not relevant btw - just ask a lotto winner - it's only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outcomes that matter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:26 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you said Japan or Sweden is prosperous is due to its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homogeneous society so since you are non-white, you must be the cause
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for white Canada in decline, agree?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even more true then you're saying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 3:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you proving that you are the cause for white Canada in decline?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you say that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2:50 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don�t know where America is heading for next 10 years but I think


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superpower can not last forever, so if America is in decline, say, in

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2150, well, no surprise, that�s historical pattern. Roman Empire�

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British Empire etc have proven it. So what does that have anything to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do with your so-called �black Messiah�? At least, your genes could
>>>> ...
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It still does not change the fact that East Asian kids do well in
college but in Corporate America, there are more African American
managers and Indian managers than East Asian managers.

> >>> Canada… would envy Michael Jordan’s rich and famous and want a pair of
> >>> Jordan sneakers but they don’t envy RAK at all. And no one including


> >>> RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire

> >>> Carlos Slim in Mexico. That’s statistical innumeracy. That’s


> >>> individualism.
> >> Doesn't change the fact Africa is in general one pathetic stone-age
> >> continent, India is just another third world nation overall etc. You get
> >> the picture - say, should a 6'2" woman be proof that women are taller
> >> than men in general? No, exceptions are precisely that - exceptions, and
> >> are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!!!!!
>
> >> As for individualism, so-called "kin selection" easily takes care of
> >> that. If individualism is really such an overriding imperative, why do
> >> people not love strangers the same way as their own biological families
> >> as in kidney donations or bone marrow transplants? In fact, why are
> >> step-children so much more likely to be killed than biological children?
>
> >>> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>> I didn’t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
> >>>>> If you don’t want to answer my question, that’s ok.


> >>>>> My question is
> >>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>> please...

> >>>>> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That’s an example


> >>>>> of statistical innumeracy, agree?
> >>>> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
> >>>> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
> >>>> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
> >>>> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
> >>>> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
> >>>> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor.  What
> >>>> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
> >>>> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
> >>>> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
> >>>> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
> >>>> yourself.
> >>>>   >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>  >  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>  >  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>  >  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>  >  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>  >  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>  >  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
> >>>> person
> >>>>  >  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
> >>>> *therefore*
> >>>>  >  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>  >  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>  >  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>  >  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>> please...
> >>>>>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
> >>>>>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
> >>>>>> and that is:
> >>>>>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> >>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> >>>>>> would you not think that?"
> >>>>>> So.
> >>>>>> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
> >>>>>> questions I'll answer yours.
> >>>>>>> On Jun 21, 3:00 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>>>> please...
> >>>>>>>> Thank you.
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>>>>>>>>> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
> >>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>>>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>>>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>>>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>>>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>>>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>>>>>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>>>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>>>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>>>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>>>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>> Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> >>>>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> >>>>>>>>>> would you not think that?
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>

> ...
>
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> It still does not change the fact that East Asian kids do well in
> college but in Corporate America, there are more African American
> managers and Indian managers than East Asian managers.


What an admission, ever so desperately changing the subject now are we?
Doesn't answer what bugs you does it, sorry!! Why would you even want to
be a negro when there's so much tagged-on genetic baggage in your
extended family *even* when you're individually successful? Did you
read what I posted or are you just grasping at straws again?

>>>>> Canada� would envy Michael Jordan�s rich and famous and want a pair of
>>>>> Jordan sneakers but they don�t envy RAK at all. And no one including


>>>>> RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire

>>>>> Carlos Slim in Mexico. That�s statistical innumeracy. That�s


>>>>> individualism.
>>>> Doesn't change the fact Africa is in general one pathetic stone-age
>>>> continent, India is just another third world nation overall etc. You get
>>>> the picture - say, should a 6'2" woman be proof that women are taller
>>>> than men in general? No, exceptions are precisely that - exceptions, and
>>>> are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!!!!!
>>>> As for individualism, so-called "kin selection" easily takes care of
>>>> that. If individualism is really such an overriding imperative, why do
>>>> people not love strangers the same way as their own biological families
>>>> as in kidney donations or bone marrow transplants? In fact, why are
>>>> step-children so much more likely to be killed than biological children?
>>>>> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>> I didn�t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
>>>>>>> If you don�t want to answer my question, that�s ok.


>>>>>>> My question is
>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>> please...

>>>>>>> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That�s an example


>>>>>>> of statistical innumeracy, agree?
>>>>>> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
>>>>>> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
>>>>>> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
>>>>>> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
>>>>>> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
>>>>>> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor. What
>>>>>> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
>>>>>> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
>>>>>> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
>>>>>> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
>>>>>> yourself.
>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>> > >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>> > >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>> > >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>> > >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>> > >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>> > > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
>>>>>> person
>>>>>> > > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
>>>>>> *therefore*
>>>>>> > > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>> > > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>> > > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>> > > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>>>> please...
>>>>>>>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
>>>>>>>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
>>>>>>>> and that is:
>>>>>>>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>>>> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>>>> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>> > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>> > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>> > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
>>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
>>>>>>>> would you not think that?"
>>>>>>>> So.
>>>>>>>> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
>>>>>>>> questions I'll answer yours.
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 3:00 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>>>>>> please...
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>>>>>>>>>>>> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>>>>>> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>>>>>>>> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>>>>>>>> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>>>>>> > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>>>>>> > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>>>>>> > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
>>>>>>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
>>>>>>>>>>>> would you not think that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 4:04 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>> ...
>>

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It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
RAK.

If color of skin is so important to you, which color of skin do you
prefer if you have a choice? Your current yellow skin or Hitler’s
white skin? Tell us!

> >>>>> Canada… would envy Michael Jordan’s rich and famous and want a pair of
> >>>>> Jordan sneakers but they don’t envy RAK at all. And no one including


> >>>>> RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire

> >>>>> Carlos Slim in Mexico. That’s statistical innumeracy. That’s


> >>>>> individualism.
> >>>> Doesn't change the fact Africa is in general one pathetic stone-age
> >>>> continent, India is just another third world nation overall etc. You get
> >>>> the picture - say, should a 6'2" woman be proof that women are taller
> >>>> than men in general? No, exceptions are precisely that - exceptions, and
> >>>> are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!!!!!
> >>>> As for individualism, so-called "kin selection" easily takes care of
> >>>> that. If individualism is really such an overriding imperative, why do
> >>>> people not love strangers the same way as their own biological families
> >>>> as in kidney donations or bone marrow transplants? In fact, why are
> >>>> step-children so much more likely to be killed than biological children?
> >>>>> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>> I didn’t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
> >>>>>>> If you don’t want to answer my question, that’s ok.


> >>>>>>> My question is
> >>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>> please...

> >>>>>>> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That’s an example


> >>>>>>> of statistical innumeracy, agree?
> >>>>>> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
> >>>>>> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
> >>>>>> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
> >>>>>> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
> >>>>>> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
> >>>>>> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor.  What
> >>>>>> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
> >>>>>> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
> >>>>>> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
> >>>>>> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
> >>>>>> yourself.
> >>>>>>   >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>  >  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>  >  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>  >  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>  >  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>  >  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>  >  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
> >>>>>> person
> >>>>>>  >  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
> >>>>>> *therefore*
> >>>>>>  >  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>  >  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>  >  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>  >  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>>>> please...
> >>>>>>>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
> >>>>>>>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
> >>>>>>>> and that is:
> >>>>>>>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>>>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> >>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> >>>>>>>> would you not think that?"
> >>>>>>>> So.
> >>>>>>>> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
> >>>>>>>> questions I'll answer yours.
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 3:00 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>>>>>> please...
> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>>>>>>>>>>> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> >>>>>>>>>>>> would you not think that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>

> ...
>
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On Jun 28, 3:01 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > It still does not change the fact that East Asian kids do well in
> > college but in Corporate America, there are more African American
> > managers and Indian managers than East Asian managers.
>
> What an admission, ever so desperately changing the subject now are we?
> Doesn't answer what bugs you does it, sorry!! Why would you even want to
> be a negro when there's so much tagged-on genetic baggage in your
> extended family *even* when you're individually successful?

Consider two brothers in an interracial family, one black and one
white. Is one of them better equipped than the other?

> >>>>> Canada… would envy Michael Jordan’s rich and famous and want a pair of
> >>>>> Jordan sneakers but they don’t envy RAK at all. And no one including


> >>>>> RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire

> >>>>> Carlos Slim in Mexico. That’s statistical innumeracy. That’s


> >>>>> individualism.
> >>>> Doesn't change the fact Africa is in general one pathetic stone-age
> >>>> continent, India is just another third world nation overall etc. You get
> >>>> the picture - say, should a 6'2" woman be proof that women are taller
> >>>> than men in general? No, exceptions are precisely that - exceptions, and
> >>>> are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!!!!!
> >>>> As for individualism, so-called "kin selection" easily takes care of
> >>>> that. If individualism is really such an overriding imperative, why do
> >>>> people not love strangers the same way as their own biological families
> >>>> as in kidney donations or bone marrow transplants? In fact, why are
> >>>> step-children so much more likely to be killed than biological children?
> >>>>> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>> I didn’t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
> >>>>>>> If you don’t want to answer my question, that’s ok.


> >>>>>>> My question is
> >>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>> please...

> >>>>>>> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That’s an example


> >>>>>>> of statistical innumeracy, agree?
> >>>>>> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
> >>>>>> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
> >>>>>> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
> >>>>>> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
> >>>>>> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
> >>>>>> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor.  What
> >>>>>> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
> >>>>>> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
> >>>>>> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
> >>>>>> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
> >>>>>> yourself.
> >>>>>>   >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>  >  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>  >  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>  >  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>  >  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>  >  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>  >  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
> >>>>>> person
> >>>>>>  >  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
> >>>>>> *therefore*
> >>>>>>  >  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>  >  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>  >  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>  >  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>>>> please...
> >>>>>>>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
> >>>>>>>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
> >>>>>>>> and that is:
> >>>>>>>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>>>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> >>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> >>>>>>>> would you not think that?"
> >>>>>>>> So.
> >>>>>>>> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
> >>>>>>>> questions I'll answer yours.
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 3:00 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>>>>>> please...
> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>>>>>>>>>>> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> >>>>>>>>>>>> would you not think that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>

> ...
>
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RichAsianKid

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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
> RAK.
>
> If color of skin is so important to you, which color of skin do you
> prefer if you have a choice? Your current yellow skin or Hitler�s
> white skin? Tell us!
>

Bwahahaha, changing the subject once again are we? Look (again) at the data:

http://tinyurl.com/ptjcfz

Painful isn't it?

Or this one - read carefully please:
http://vdare.com/taylor/071113_stumped.htm

That is, even if you're a rich and educated black so what? It's less
likely gonna be passed on anyway. Nature's just unfair. So take the
longer view: black "achievement" is more likely some flash in the pan.
That is, there is tremendous genetic baggage that goes along with being
black. Unlike East Asians or Ash Jews where some illiterate tailor or
something all-too-often somehow catapults their children mysteriously to
Caltech or MIT and end up as docs and lawyers in spite of quotas.

As for race and color: race is NOT about color per se. I've said this
many times. If race is just about color, will a Swede who suntans become
an Indian? If race is just about color, will someone with a 3rd degree
burn suddenly become a Negro? Of course not.

And no, RichAsianKid's crime is worse than being comfortable with his
genetic ancestral heritage: he's *content*. Ouch! Afterall, if not, why
would he voluntarily incorporate Asian (North American usage needless to
say) in his sobriquet?

>>>>>>> Canada� would envy Michael Jordan�s rich and famous and want a pair of
>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but they don�t envy RAK at all. And no one including


>>>>>>> RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire

>>>>>>> Carlos Slim in Mexico. That�s statistical innumeracy. That�s


>>>>>>> individualism.
>>>>>> Doesn't change the fact Africa is in general one pathetic stone-age
>>>>>> continent, India is just another third world nation overall etc. You get
>>>>>> the picture - say, should a 6'2" woman be proof that women are taller
>>>>>> than men in general? No, exceptions are precisely that - exceptions, and
>>>>>> are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!!!!!
>>>>>> As for individualism, so-called "kin selection" easily takes care of
>>>>>> that. If individualism is really such an overriding imperative, why do
>>>>>> people not love strangers the same way as their own biological families
>>>>>> as in kidney donations or bone marrow transplants? In fact, why are
>>>>>> step-children so much more likely to be killed than biological children?
>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>> I didn�t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
>>>>>>>>> If you don�t want to answer my question, that�s ok.


>>>>>>>>> My question is
>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>>>> please...

>>>>>>>>> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That�s an example


>>>>>>>>> of statistical innumeracy, agree?
>>>>>>>> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
>>>>>>>> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
>>>>>>>> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
>>>>>>>> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
>>>>>>>> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
>>>>>>>> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor. What
>>>>>>>> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
>>>>>>>> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
>>>>>>>> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
>>>>>>>> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
>>>>>>>> yourself.
>>>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>> > >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>> > >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>> > >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>> > >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>> > >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>> > > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>> > > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
>>>>>>>> *therefore*
>>>>>>>> > > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>> > > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>> > > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>> > > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>>>>>> please...
>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
>>>>>>>>>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
>>>>>>>>>> and that is:
>>>>>>>>>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>>> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>>>> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>>>> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>>>> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>>>> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>>>>>> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>>>>>> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>>>> > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>>>> > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>>>> > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
>>>>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
>>>>>>>>>> would you not think that?"
>>>>>>>>>> So.
>>>>>>>>>> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
>>>>>>>>>> questions I'll answer yours.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 3:00 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> please...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would you not think that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:10 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a white homeless man in America
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Statistical innumeracy again like I said already.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>> ...
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Painful? I don’t think Obama family feels painful to be first family
of America. Do you RAK feel painful to watch Obama family at the White
House for 4 years?

On Jun 28, 9:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
> > RAK.
>
> > If color of skin is so important to you, which color of skin do you

> > prefer if you have a choice? Your current yellow skin or Hitler’s

> >>>>>>> Canada… would envy Michael Jordan’s rich and famous and want a pair of
> >>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but they don’t envy RAK at all. And no one including


> >>>>>>> RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire

> >>>>>>> Carlos Slim in Mexico. That’s statistical innumeracy. That’s


> >>>>>>> individualism.
> >>>>>> Doesn't change the fact Africa is in general one pathetic stone-age
> >>>>>> continent, India is just another third world nation overall etc. You get
> >>>>>> the picture - say, should a 6'2" woman be proof that women are taller
> >>>>>> than men in general? No, exceptions are precisely that - exceptions, and
> >>>>>> are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!!!!!
> >>>>>> As for individualism, so-called "kin selection" easily takes care of
> >>>>>> that. If individualism is really such an overriding imperative, why do
> >>>>>> people not love strangers the same way as their own biological families
> >>>>>> as in kidney donations or bone marrow transplants? In fact, why are
> >>>>>> step-children so much more likely to be killed than biological children?
> >>>>>>> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>> I didn’t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
> >>>>>>>>> If you don’t want to answer my question, that’s ok.


> >>>>>>>>> My question is
> >>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>>>> please...

> >>>>>>>>> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That’s an example


> >>>>>>>>> of statistical innumeracy, agree?
> >>>>>>>> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
> >>>>>>>> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
> >>>>>>>> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
> >>>>>>>> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
> >>>>>>>> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
> >>>>>>>> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor.  What
> >>>>>>>> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
> >>>>>>>> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
> >>>>>>>> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
> >>>>>>>> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
> >>>>>>>> yourself.
> >>>>>>>>   >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>  >  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>  >  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>  >  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>  >  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>  >  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>  >  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
> >>>>>>>> person
> >>>>>>>>  >  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
> >>>>>>>> *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>  >  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>  >  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>  >  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>  >  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>>>>>> please...
> >>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
> >>>>>>>>>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
> >>>>>>>>>> and that is:
> >>>>>>>>>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
> >>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>>>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>>>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>>>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>>>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>>>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>>>>>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>>>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>>>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>>>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>>>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> >>>>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> >>>>>>>>>> would you not think that?"
> >>>>>>>>>> So.
> >>>>>>>>>> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
> >>>>>>>>>> questions I'll answer yours.
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 3:00 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> please...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>

> ...
>
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> Painful? I don�t think Obama family feels painful to be first family

> of America. Do you RAK feel painful to watch Obama family at the White
> House for 4 years?

No. BUT does Obama or his kids feel painful that there's always this
perpetual lingering doubt that he's and especially his wife is merely
another affirmative action poster child?

That gotta hurt.

Again, re-read the links please....:)


>
> On Jun 28, 9:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
>>> RAK.
>>> If color of skin is so important to you, which color of skin do you

>>> prefer if you have a choice? Your current yellow skin or Hitler�s

>>>>>>>>> Canada� would envy Michael Jordan�s rich and famous and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but they don�t envy RAK at all. And no one including


>>>>>>>>> RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire

>>>>>>>>> Carlos Slim in Mexico. That�s statistical innumeracy. That�s


>>>>>>>>> individualism.
>>>>>>>> Doesn't change the fact Africa is in general one pathetic stone-age
>>>>>>>> continent, India is just another third world nation overall etc. You get
>>>>>>>> the picture - say, should a 6'2" woman be proof that women are taller
>>>>>>>> than men in general? No, exceptions are precisely that - exceptions, and
>>>>>>>> are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!!!!!
>>>>>>>> As for individualism, so-called "kin selection" easily takes care of
>>>>>>>> that. If individualism is really such an overriding imperative, why do
>>>>>>>> people not love strangers the same way as their own biological families
>>>>>>>> as in kidney donations or bone marrow transplants? In fact, why are
>>>>>>>> step-children so much more likely to be killed than biological children?
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> I didn�t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
>>>>>>>>>>> If you don�t want to answer my question, that�s ok.


>>>>>>>>>>> My question is
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>>>>>> please...

>>>>>>>>>>> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That�s an example


>>>>>>>>>>> of statistical innumeracy, agree?
>>>>>>>>>> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
>>>>>>>>>> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
>>>>>>>>>> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
>>>>>>>>>> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
>>>>>>>>>> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
>>>>>>>>>> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor. What
>>>>>>>>>> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
>>>>>>>>>> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
>>>>>>>>>> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
>>>>>>>>>> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
>>>>>>>>>> yourself.
>>>>>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>>> > >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>>>> > >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>>>> > >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>>>> > >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>> > >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>>>> > > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
>>>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>>>> > > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
>>>>>>>>>> *therefore*
>>>>>>>>>> > > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>>>> > > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>>>> > > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>>>> > > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> please...
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
>>>>>>>>>>>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
>>>>>>>>>>>> and that is:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>>>>>> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>>>>>>>> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>>>>>>>> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>>>>>> > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>>>>>> > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>>>>>> > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
>>>>>>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
>>>>>>>>>>>> would you not think that?"
>>>>>>>>>>>> So.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
>>>>>>>>>>>> questions I'll answer yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 3:00 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2:36 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>> ...
>>

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Blah blah blah! Stupid boring stuff. Let's have some fun! Call me at
www.thailovelinks.com .
Here are my websites:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156901@N00/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/meichi_cunt_aka_abianchen_filthy_smelly_pussy/

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On Jun 30, 7:45 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> > Painful? I don’t think Obama family feels painful to be first family


> > of America. Do you RAK feel painful to watch Obama family at the White
> > House for 4 years?
>
> No. BUT does Obama or his kids feel painful that there's always this
> perpetual lingering doubt that he's and especially his wife is merely
> another affirmative action poster child?
>
> That gotta hurt.
>
> Again, re-read the links please....:)
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 28, 9:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>> It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
> >>> RAK.
> >>> If color of skin is so important to you, which color of skin do you

> >>> prefer if you have a choice? Your current yellow skin or Hitler’s

> >>>>>>>>> Canada… would envy Michael Jordan’s rich and famous and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but they don’t envy RAK at all. And no one including


> >>>>>>>>> RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire

> >>>>>>>>> Carlos Slim in Mexico. That’s statistical innumeracy. That’s


> >>>>>>>>> individualism.
> >>>>>>>> Doesn't change the fact Africa is in general one pathetic stone-age
> >>>>>>>> continent, India is just another third world nation overall etc. You get
> >>>>>>>> the picture - say, should a 6'2" woman be proof that women are taller
> >>>>>>>> than men in general? No, exceptions are precisely that - exceptions, and
> >>>>>>>> are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!!!!!
> >>>>>>>> As for individualism, so-called "kin selection" easily takes care of
> >>>>>>>> that. If individualism is really such an overriding imperative, why do
> >>>>>>>> people not love strangers the same way as their own biological families
> >>>>>>>> as in kidney donations or bone marrow transplants? In fact, why are
> >>>>>>>> step-children so much more likely to be killed than biological children?
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>> I didn’t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
> >>>>>>>>>>> If you don’t want to answer my question, that’s ok.


> >>>>>>>>>>> My question is
> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>>>>>> please...

> >>>>>>>>>>> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That’s an example


> >>>>>>>>>>> of statistical innumeracy, agree?
> >>>>>>>>>> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
> >>>>>>>>>> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
> >>>>>>>>>> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
> >>>>>>>>>> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
> >>>>>>>>>> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
> >>>>>>>>>> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor.  What
> >>>>>>>>>> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
> >>>>>>>>>> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
> >>>>>>>>>> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
> >>>>>>>>>> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
> >>>>>>>>>> yourself.
> >>>>>>>>>>   >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>>>  >  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>>>  >  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
> >>>>>>>>>> person
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
> >>>>>>>>>> *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> please...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and that is:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> >>>>>>>>>>>> would you not think that?"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
> >>>>>>>>>>>> questions I'll answer
>

> ...
>
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Psycho Tienxia, you have been faking abianchen’s account over a year
for revenge. You don’t even have balls be yourself. You are a coward
and freak! And stop insulting Thai and Filipino people!

Original abianchen: abia...@my-deja.com (since May, 2000).

Fake abianchen (psycho Tienxia): abianc^@seductive.com, etc many
various abian*.*com.


On Jun 30, 10:45 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@seductive.com>
wrote:


> Blah blah blah! Stupid boring stuff. Let's have some fun! Call me atwww.thailovelinks.com.
> Here are my websites:http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156901@N00/
>

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/meichi_cunt_aka_abianchen_filthy_smelly_...

Tienxia

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Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Balls, Meichi? You are an ugly lying
Thai whore who has to pretend to be "abianchen, a guy from Taiwan".
What do you know about balls other than those smelly ones your clients
shove into your mouth for you to suck? Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On Jul 1, 2:14 am, report2009 <repost2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Psycho Tienxia, you have been faking abianchen’s account over a year
> for revenge. You don’t even have balls be yourself. You are a coward
> and freak! And stop insulting Thai and Filipino people!
>

> Original abianchen: abianc...@my-deja.com (since May, 2000).
>
> Fake abianchen (psycho Tienxia): abia...@seductive.com, etc many

cnhktwsgusukfrru

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US Presidency has nothing to do with affirmative action. You are
talking nonsense here!

On Jun 30, 7:45 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> > Painful? I don’t think Obama family feels painful to be first family


> > of America. Do you RAK feel painful to watch Obama family at the White
> > House for 4 years?
>
> No. BUT does Obama or his kids feel painful that there's always this
> perpetual lingering doubt that he's and especially his wife is merely
> another affirmative action poster child?
>
> That gotta hurt.
>
> Again, re-read the links please....:)
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 28, 9:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>> It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
> >>> RAK.
> >>> If color of skin is so important to you, which color of skin do you

> >>> prefer if you have a choice? Your current yellow skin or Hitler’s

> >>>>>>>>> Canada… would envy Michael Jordan’s rich and famous and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but they don’t envy RAK at all. And no one including


> >>>>>>>>> RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire

> >>>>>>>>> Carlos Slim in Mexico. That’s statistical innumeracy. That’s


> >>>>>>>>> individualism.
> >>>>>>>> Doesn't change the fact Africa is in general one pathetic stone-age
> >>>>>>>> continent, India is just another third world nation overall etc. You get
> >>>>>>>> the picture - say, should a 6'2" woman be proof that women are taller
> >>>>>>>> than men in general? No, exceptions are precisely that - exceptions, and
> >>>>>>>> are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!!!!!
> >>>>>>>> As for individualism, so-called "kin selection" easily takes care of
> >>>>>>>> that. If individualism is really such an overriding imperative, why do
> >>>>>>>> people not love strangers the same way as their own biological families
> >>>>>>>> as in kidney donations or bone marrow transplants? In fact, why are
> >>>>>>>> step-children so much more likely to be killed than biological children?
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>> I didn’t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
> >>>>>>>>>>> If you don’t want to answer my question, that’s ok.


> >>>>>>>>>>> My question is
> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>>>>>> please...

> >>>>>>>>>>> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That’s an example


> >>>>>>>>>>> of statistical innumeracy, agree?
> >>>>>>>>>> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
> >>>>>>>>>> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
> >>>>>>>>>> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
> >>>>>>>>>> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
> >>>>>>>>>> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
> >>>>>>>>>> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor.  What
> >>>>>>>>>> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
> >>>>>>>>>> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
> >>>>>>>>>> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
> >>>>>>>>>> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
> >>>>>>>>>> yourself.
> >>>>>>>>>>   >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>>>  >  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>>>  >  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
> >>>>>>>>>> person
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
> >>>>>>>>>> *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>>>  >  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> please...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and that is:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups?  Why
> >>>>>>>>>>>> would you not think that?"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
> >>>>>>>>>>>> questions I'll answer
>

> ...
>
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Jul 1, 2009, 10:32:42 PM7/1/09
to
cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> US Presidency has nothing to do with affirmative action. You are
> talking nonsense here!
>

Why would you want be black though all other factors equal? Why why why?
Bwahaha!!!!!!!!!


> On Jun 30, 7:45 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>> Painful? I don�t think Obama family feels painful to be first family


>>> of America. Do you RAK feel painful to watch Obama family at the White
>>> House for 4 years?
>> No. BUT does Obama or his kids feel painful that there's always this
>> perpetual lingering doubt that he's and especially his wife is merely
>> another affirmative action poster child?
>>
>> That gotta hurt.
>>
>> Again, re-read the links please....:)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 28, 9:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>> It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
>>>>> RAK.
>>>>> If color of skin is so important to you, which color of skin do you

>>>>> prefer if you have a choice? Your current yellow skin or Hitler�s

>>>>>>>>>>> Canada� would envy Michael Jordan�s rich and famous and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but they don�t envy RAK at all. And no one including


>>>>>>>>>>> RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire

>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Slim in Mexico. That�s statistical innumeracy. That�s


>>>>>>>>>>> individualism.
>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't change the fact Africa is in general one pathetic stone-age
>>>>>>>>>> continent, India is just another third world nation overall etc. You get
>>>>>>>>>> the picture - say, should a 6'2" woman be proof that women are taller
>>>>>>>>>> than men in general? No, exceptions are precisely that - exceptions, and
>>>>>>>>>> are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>> As for individualism, so-called "kin selection" easily takes care of
>>>>>>>>>> that. If individualism is really such an overriding imperative, why do
>>>>>>>>>> people not love strangers the same way as their own biological families
>>>>>>>>>> as in kidney donations or bone marrow transplants? In fact, why are
>>>>>>>>>> step-children so much more likely to be killed than biological children?
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn�t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don�t want to answer my question, that�s ok.


>>>>>>>>>>>>> My question is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> please...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That�s an example


>>>>>>>>>>>>> of statistical innumeracy, agree?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
>>>>>>>>>>>> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
>>>>>>>>>>>> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
>>>>>>>>>>>> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor. What
>>>>>>>>>>>> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
>>>>>>>>>>>> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
>>>>>>>>>>>> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
>>>>>>>>>>>> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
>>>>>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>>>>>> > > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
>>>>>>>>>>>> *therefore*
>>>>>>>>>>>> > > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>>>>>> > > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>>>>>> > > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>>>>>> > > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that is:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Why is what you wrote not an example of statistical innumeracy that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so loudly broadcasted to everyone here on multiple newsgroups? Why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would you not think that?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without deleting posts for a second time like you did, if you answer my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions I'll answer
>> ...
>>

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Jul 2, 2009, 6:39:45 AM7/2/09
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Like I said, US Presidency has nothing to do with affirmative action
so you need to talk sense here.

On Jul 1, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > US Presidency has nothing to do with affirmative action. You are
> > talking nonsense here!
>
> Why would you want be black though all other factors equal? Why why why?
> Bwahaha!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> > On Jun 30, 7:45 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>> Painful? I don’t think Obama family feels painful to be first family


> >>> of America. Do you RAK feel painful to watch Obama family at the White
> >>> House for 4 years?
> >> No. BUT does Obama or his kids feel painful that there's always this
> >> perpetual lingering doubt that he's and especially his wife is merely
> >> another affirmative action poster child?
>
> >> That gotta hurt.
>
> >> Again, re-read the links please....:)
>
> >>> On Jun 28, 9:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>> It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
> >>>>> RAK.
> >>>>> If color of skin is so important to you, which color of skin do you

> >>>>> prefer if you have a choice? Your current yellow skin or Hitler’s

> >>>>>>>>>>> Canada… would envy Michael Jordan’s rich and famous and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but they don’t envy RAK at all. And no one including


> >>>>>>>>>>> RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire

> >>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Slim in Mexico. That’s statistical innumeracy. That’s


> >>>>>>>>>>> individualism.
> >>>>>>>>>> Doesn't change the fact Africa is in general one pathetic stone-age
> >>>>>>>>>> continent, India is just another third world nation overall etc. You get
> >>>>>>>>>> the picture - say, should a 6'2" woman be proof that women are taller
> >>>>>>>>>> than men in general? No, exceptions are precisely that - exceptions, and
> >>>>>>>>>> are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!!!!!
> >>>>>>>>>> As for individualism, so-called "kin selection" easily takes care of
> >>>>>>>>>> that. If individualism is really such an overriding imperative, why do
> >>>>>>>>>> people not love strangers the same way as their own biological families
> >>>>>>>>>> as in kidney donations or bone marrow transplants? In fact, why are
> >>>>>>>>>> step-children so much more likely to be killed than biological children?
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn’t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don’t want to answer my question, that’s ok.


> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My question is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> please...

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That’s an example


> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of statistical innumeracy, agree?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
> >>>>>>>>>>>> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor.  What
> >>>>>>>>>>>> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
> >>>>>>>>>>>> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
> >>>>>>>>>>>> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> yourself.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>   >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
> >>>>>>>>>>>> person
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >  > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >  > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
> >>>>>>>>>>>>  >  > like the rest of your compatriots?)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s not a straight answer.


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that is:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada… they


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  > people. One
>

> ...
>
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Jul 3, 2009, 5:36:53 PM7/3/09
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If Chimpbama didn't get into university, would he have had subsequently
"opportunities"?

Don't forget, 2/3 blacks and 1/2 Hispanics would NOT be in elite
universities in the US in the first place if not because of affirmative
action. Asians on the other hand will increase by 1/3. See here:

* * * *
http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm

Demographic Dislocation

What if the Supreme Court had banned affirmative action? What if
colleges moved away from the use of affirmative action on their own?

A new study by two Princeton University researchers uses admissions
data from elite colleges to portray what would happen in such a world
without affirmative action. In short, black and Latino enrollment
would
tank, while white enrollments would hardly be affected. The big
winners
would be Asian applicants, who appear to face "disaffirmative
action" right now. They would pick up about four out of five spots
lost by black and Latino applicants.

The study was conducted by Thomas Espenshade, a professor of sociology
at Princeton, and Chang Chung, a senior staff member in the
university's Office of Population Research. The study will appear in
the June issue of Social Science Quarterly.

"We're trying to put these admission preferences in context so
people understand that lots of students, including those with SAT
scores above 1500, are getting a boost," said Espenshade. "The most
important conclusion is the negative impact on African American and
Hispanic students if affirmative action practices were eliminated."

The study found that, without affirmative action, the acceptance rate
for African American candidates at elite colleges would be likely to
fall by nearly two-thirds, from 33.7 percent to 12.2 percent, while
the
acceptance rate for Hispanic applicants probably would be cut in half,
from 26.8 percent to 12.9 percent.

Those drops, in turn, could prompt additional losses, the authors
warn.
"If admitting such small numbers of qualified African-American and
Hispanic students reduced applications and the yield from minority
candidates in subsequent years, the effect of eliminating affirmative
action at elite universities on the racial and ethnic composition of
enrolled students would be magnified beyond the results presented
here," the report says.

Drops of that magnitude in admission rates would have serious impacts
on those who actually enroll. The percentage of admitted students who
are black would fall to 3.3 percent, from 9 percent. For Hispanics,
the
drop would be to 3.8 percent, from 7.9 percent.

Such dramatic changes in policy would have little impact, however, on
white applicants. Their admission rate would rise slightly, to 24.3
percent, from 23.8 percent.

The big gains would be for Asian applicants. Their admission rate in a
race-neutral system would go to 23.4 percent, from 17.6 percent. And
their share of a class of admitted students would rise to 31.5
percent,
from 23.7 percent.

The Princeton scholars also studied the impact of admission
preferences
for athletes and for alumni children and found that both groups are
overwhelmingly white. However, despite the advantages such applicants
receive, the study found little impact on overall demographics.
That's because the total proportion of applicants in such categories
is relatively small - 3.1 percent for alumni children and 4.5 percent
for athletes.

The study backs up the statements of many educators that the
elimination of affirmative action right now would displace many
minority students and decrease diversity at top institutions.

But Roger Clegg, general counsel for the Center for Equal Opportunity,
a group that opposes affirmative action, said that the study was
irrelevant to the arguments he makes against current admissions
policies. He said that there is an assumption behind the study that
people don't want Asian enrollments to go up, and that affirmative
action is somehow stronger if white students aren't hurt by it.

The problem with affirmative action, he said, is that it is
discrimination, regardless of who benefits. "It's always useful to
put the shoe on the other foot," he said. "Suppose Ole Miss had
argued that the fact that it discriminated against blacks wasn't such
a big deal because most of them would be turned down anyway. No one
would find that argument very persuasive."

He also questioned whether the displaced minority students would
really
be hurt. Students who are less qualified are less likely to succeed,
he
said, and may be more likely to succeed a notch down the college
prestige rankings. "It is not the end of the world if a black student
ends up going to the University of Virginia instead of Princeton, or
to
Virginia Tech instead of U.Va.," he said.


* * * * *

Then if you want I can post you law school data. You want some?

Whenever you see a black, just assume he's an affirmative action poster
boy until proven otherwise.

* * * * * * *


cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> Like I said, US Presidency has nothing to do with affirmative action
> so you need to talk sense here.
>
> On Jul 1, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> US Presidency has nothing to do with affirmative action. You are
>>> talking nonsense here!
>> Why would you want be black though all other factors equal? Why why why?
>> Bwahaha!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 30, 7:45 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>> Painful? I don�t think Obama family feels painful to be first family


>>>>> of America. Do you RAK feel painful to watch Obama family at the White
>>>>> House for 4 years?
>>>> No. BUT does Obama or his kids feel painful that there's always this
>>>> perpetual lingering doubt that he's and especially his wife is merely
>>>> another affirmative action poster child?
>>>> That gotta hurt.
>>>> Again, re-read the links please....:)
>>>>> On Jun 28, 9:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>> It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
>>>>>>> RAK.
>>>>>>> If color of skin is so important to you, which color of skin do you

>>>>>>> prefer if you have a choice? Your current yellow skin or Hitler�s

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada� would envy Michael Jordan�s rich and famous and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jordan sneakers but they don�t envy RAK at all. And no one including


>>>>>>>>>>>>> RAK would rather envy a homeless white man in America than billionaire

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Slim in Mexico. That�s statistical innumeracy. That�s


>>>>>>>>>>>>> individualism.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't change the fact Africa is in general one pathetic stone-age
>>>>>>>>>>>> continent, India is just another third world nation overall etc. You get
>>>>>>>>>>>> the picture - say, should a 6'2" woman be proof that women are taller
>>>>>>>>>>>> than men in general? No, exceptions are precisely that - exceptions, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Sorry!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>> As for individualism, so-called "kin selection" easily takes care of
>>>>>>>>>>>> that. If individualism is really such an overriding imperative, why do
>>>>>>>>>>>> people not love strangers the same way as their own biological families
>>>>>>>>>>>> as in kidney donations or bone marrow transplants? In fact, why are
>>>>>>>>>>>> step-children so much more likely to be killed than biological children?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 10:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn�t delete your posts, not sure why you said that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don�t want to answer my question, that�s ok.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My question is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think most people would answer Yes, including you. That�s an example


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of statistical innumeracy, agree?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I quote again: "Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the richest person in the world and now still one of the richest that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mexico is *therefore* some first world nation?" That is, how do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exceptions prove the rule? Koreans are smart not because of a Kim Ung
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yong. Similarly one Michael JOrdan will not erase the fact that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> average negroid whether in America or Africa is just dirt poor. What
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was that number again - the minimum wage in America is 5 times the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> average wage in Mexico or something? An average Mexican is very very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> poor by American standards - and yet very very rich by average Indian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> standards. To try to use extremes to generalize is to make a fool of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *therefore*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > people. One exception proves the rule. Never fails to astound. (Side
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > question: did you study in some cheap illiterate school in rural India
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > like the rest of your compatriots?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 12:11 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That�s not a straight answer.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you would rather envy a homeless white man in America
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than billionaire Carlos Slim in Mexico? Yes or no? A straight answer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the above if you'll answer my questions in the first place,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which you lovingly deleted (surefire sign you got something to hide!)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that is:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In the context of this thread and let's quote again:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 1:03 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Life is not fair. Some are taller like Obama, some are way too short
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> like Rxx. Some are rich and famous like Michael Jordan, some are not,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> e.g.,xAx. Some are CEOs like Indra Nooyi, some are not, e.g., xxK.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Anyway, rich Asian kids no matter in China, in Japan, in Canada� they


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> all know American basketball star Michael Jordan and want a pair of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Jordan sneakers but none of them would envy RAK with the above facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Are you saying that just because Carlos Slim was once the richest person
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > in the world and now still one of the richest that Mexico is *therefore*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > some first world nation? Statistical innumeracy once again I tell you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > people. One
>> ...
>>

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Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall
chair so professor Obama can see him. That’s part of affirmative
action… no discrimination against dwarf either.

On Jul 3, 5:36 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> If Chimpbama didn't get into university, would he have had subsequently
> "opportunities"?
>
> Don't forget, 2/3 blacks and 1/2 Hispanics would NOT be in elite
> universities in the US in the first place if not because of affirmative
> action. Asians on the other hand will increase by 1/3. See here:
>

> * * * *http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm

> >>>>> Painful? I don’t think Obama family feels painful to be first family


> >>>>> of America. Do you RAK feel painful to watch Obama family at the White
> >>>>> House for 4 years?
> >>>> No. BUT does Obama or his kids feel painful that there's always this
> >>>> perpetual lingering doubt that he's and especially his wife is merely
> >>>> another affirmative action poster child?
> >>>> That gotta hurt.
> >>>> Again, re-read the links please....:)
> >>>>> On Jun 28, 9:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>> It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
> >>>>>>> RAK.
> >>>>>>> If color of skin is so important to you, which color of skin do you

> >>>>>>> prefer if you have a choice? Your current yellow skin or Hitler’s

> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -

RichAsianKid

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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall
> chair so professor Obama can see him. That�s part of affirmative
> action� no discrimination against dwarf either.
>

Thank you for your concession. Again I might point out disproportionate
number of blacks are NOT qualified. As I said and it bears repeating:

1. 2/3 blacks and 1/2 Hispanics would NOT be in elite universities in

the US in the first place if not because of affirmative action. Asians
on the other hand will increase by 1/3.

1b. Based on probabilities alone when you see a black just assume he's
an affirmative action beneficiary till proven otherwise.

Now in case there is any doubt on what we're discussing, think
Sotomayor. Obviously supreme court justices are not appointed by
affirmative action, ahem ahem ahem of course not. But she said it
herself in case there is any residual doubt how she got here:

* * *
"I am a product of affirmative action," she said. "I am the perfect
affirmative action baby. I am Puerto Rican, born and raised in the south
Bronx. My test scores were not comparable to my colleagues at Princeton
and Yale. Not so far off so that I wasn't able to succeed at those
institutions."

She said that using "traditional numbers" from test scores, "it would
have been highly questionable if I would have been accepted."
* * *

Quoted from CNN.

So, RichAsianKid asks you to look deeper and not just at some
superficial "causes" or whatever.

But hey at least Sotomayor is honest.

Maybe Obama and his children won't be.

>>>>>>> Painful? I don�t think Obama family feels painful to be first family


>>>>>>> of America. Do you RAK feel painful to watch Obama family at the White
>>>>>>> House for 4 years?
>>>>>> No. BUT does Obama or his kids feel painful that there's always this
>>>>>> perpetual lingering doubt that he's and especially his wife is merely
>>>>>> another affirmative action poster child?
>>>>>> That gotta hurt.
>>>>>> Again, re-read the links please....:)
>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 9:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>> It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
>>>>>>>>> RAK.
>>>>>>>>> If color of skin is so important to you, which color of skin do you

>>>>>>>>> prefer if you have a choice? Your current yellow skin or Hitler�s

>> read more �- Hide quoted text -

cnhktwsgusukfrru

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But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can
provide statistics, “theory” but could not change the facts, that is,
they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.

On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
> > dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

> > chair so professor Obama can see him. That’s part of affirmative

> > action… no discrimination against dwarf either.

> >>>>>>> Painful? I don’t think Obama family feels painful to be first family


> >>>>>>> of America. Do you RAK feel painful to watch Obama family at the White
> >>>>>>> House for 4 years?
> >>>>>> No. BUT does Obama or his kids feel painful that there's always this
> >>>>>> perpetual lingering doubt that he's and especially his wife is merely
> >>>>>> another affirmative action poster child?
> >>>>>> That gotta hurt.
> >>>>>> Again, re-read the links please....:)
> >>>>>>> On Jun 28, 9:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
> >>>>>>>>> RAK.
> >>>>>>>>> If color of skin is so important to you, which color of skin do you

> >>>>>>>>> prefer if you have a choice? Your current yellow skin or Hitler’s

> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -

RichAsianKid

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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can
> provide statistics, �theory� but could not change the facts, that is,

> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.

But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
how come they

(1) need affirmative action to begin with?
(2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
Sotomayor did?


>
> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That�s part of affirmative

>>> action� no discrimination against dwarf either.

>>>>>>>>> Painful? I don�t think Obama family feels painful to be first family


>>>>>>>>> of America. Do you RAK feel painful to watch Obama family at the White
>>>>>>>>> House for 4 years?
>>>>>>>> No. BUT does Obama or his kids feel painful that there's always this
>>>>>>>> perpetual lingering doubt that he's and especially his wife is merely
>>>>>>>> another affirmative action poster child?
>>>>>>>> That gotta hurt.
>>>>>>>> Again, re-read the links please....:)
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 9:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
>>>>>>>>>>> RAK.
>>>>>>>>>>> If color of skin is so important to you, which color of skin do you

>>>>>>>>>>> prefer if you have a choice? Your current yellow skin or Hitler�s

>> read more �- Hide quoted text -

cnhktwsgusukfrru

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Jul 8, 2009, 9:08:10 AM7/8/09
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Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
action.

On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
> > managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
> > be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
> > black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
> > bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

> > provide statistics, “theory” but could not change the facts, that is,


> > they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
> > able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
>
> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
> how come they
>
> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
> Sotomayor did?
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
> >>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

> >>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That’s part of affirmative

> >>> action… no discrimination against dwarf either.

> >>>>>>>>> Painful? I don’t think Obama family feels painful to be first family


> >>>>>>>>> of America. Do you RAK feel painful to watch Obama family at the White
> >>>>>>>>> House for 4 years?
> >>>>>>>> No. BUT does Obama or his kids feel painful that there's always this
> >>>>>>>> perpetual lingering doubt that he's and especially his wife is merely
> >>>>>>>> another affirmative action poster child?
> >>>>>>>> That gotta hurt.
> >>>>>>>> Again, re-read the links please....:)
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 9:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
> >>>>>>>>>>> RAK.
> >>>>>>>>>>> If color of skin is so important to you, which color of skin do you

> >>>>>>>>>>> prefer if you have a choice? Your current yellow skin or Hitler’s

> >> read more »- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/meichi_cunt_aka_abianchen_filthy_smelly_pussy/


On Jul 8, 9:08 am, cnhktwsgusukfrru <cnhktwsgusukf...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

report2009

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Psycho Tienxia, you have been faking abianchen’s account over a year
for revenge. You don’t even have balls be yourself. You are a coward
and freak! And stop insulting Thai and Filipino people!

Original abianchen: abia...@my-deja.com (since May, 2000).

Fake abianchen (psycho Tienxia): abianc*@yahoo.com, etc many various
abian*.*com.


On Jul 8, 11:05 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abian_ch...@yahoo.com>
wrote:


> Blah, blah, blah! That's all so boring! Let's have some fun! Call me
> atwww.thailovelinks.com.
> Here are my websites:http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156901@N00/
>

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/meichi_cunt_aka_abianchen_filthy_smelly_...

Tienxia

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Prove it, Meichi! Go on, show everyone you've got balls!


On Jul 8, 11:03 am, report2009 <repost20...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Psycho Tienxia, you have been faking abianchen’s account over a year
> for revenge. You don’t even have balls be yourself. You are a coward
> and freak! And stop insulting Thai and Filipino people!
>

> Original abianchen: abianc...@my-deja.com (since May, 2000).
>
> Fake abianchen (psycho Tienxia): abia...@yahoo.com, etc many various

rst0wxyz

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Prove it, Meichi! Go on, show everyone you've got balls!

She has no balls. She's got a filthy smelly ugly cunt.

RichAsianKid

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Jul 8, 2009, 7:28:21 PM7/8/09
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
> action.

"Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?
http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm

>
> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

>>> provide statistics, �theory� but could not change the facts, that is,


>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
>> how come they
>>
>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
>> Sotomayor did?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That�s part of affirmative

>>>>> action� no discrimination against dwarf either.

>>>>>>>>>>> Painful? I don�t think Obama family feels painful to be first family


>>>>>>>>>>> of America. Do you RAK feel painful to watch Obama family at the White
>>>>>>>>>>> House for 4 years?
>>>>>>>>>> No. BUT does Obama or his kids feel painful that there's always this
>>>>>>>>>> perpetual lingering doubt that he's and especially his wife is merely
>>>>>>>>>> another affirmative action poster child?
>>>>>>>>>> That gotta hurt.
>>>>>>>>>> Again, re-read the links please....:)
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 9:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> RAK.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If color of skin is so important to you, which color of skin do you

>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer if you have a choice? Your current yellow skin or Hitler�s

>>>> read more �- Hide quoted text -

cnhktwsgusukfrru

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Jul 8, 2009, 9:21:30 PM7/8/09
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Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
useless bookworms like you.

On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
> > like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
> > action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
> > action.
>

> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm


>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
> >>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
> >>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
> >>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
> >>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

> >>> provide statistics, “theory” but could not change the facts, that is,


> >>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
> >>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
> >> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
> >> how come they
>
> >> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
> >> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
> >> Sotomayor did?
>
> >>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
> >>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

> >>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That’s part of affirmative

> >>>>> action… no discrimination against dwarf either.

> >>>>>>>>>>> Painful? I don’t think Obama family feels painful to be first family


> >>>>>>>>>>> of America. Do you RAK feel painful to watch Obama family at the White
> >>>>>>>>>>> House for 4 years?
> >>>>>>>>>> No. BUT does Obama or his kids feel painful that there's always this
> >>>>>>>>>> perpetual lingering doubt that he's and especially his wife is merely
> >>>>>>>>>> another affirmative action poster child?
> >>>>>>>>>> That gotta hurt.
> >>>>>>>>>> Again, re-read the links please....:)
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 9:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
>

> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -

RichAsianKid

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Jul 8, 2009, 9:31:21 PM7/8/09
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
> Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
> useless bookworms like you.

Well then blacks should *also* openly admit that fact don't you think?
"I'm an affirmative action baby and I'm sooooooo mighty proud!!"

Like Sotomayor did. :)

(Your point 2 btw.)


>
> On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
>>> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
>>> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
>>> action.
>> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
>>>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
>>>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
>>>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
>>>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

>>>>> provide statistics, �theory� but could not change the facts, that is,


>>>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
>>>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
>>>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
>>>> how come they
>>>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
>>>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
>>>> Sotomayor did?
>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
>>>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

>>>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That�s part of affirmative

>>>>>>> action� no discrimination against dwarf either.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Painful? I don�t think Obama family feels painful to be first family


>>>>>>>>>>>>> of America. Do you RAK feel painful to watch Obama family at the White
>>>>>>>>>>>>> House for 4 years?
>>>>>>>>>>>> No. BUT does Obama or his kids feel painful that there's always this
>>>>>>>>>>>> perpetual lingering doubt that he's and especially his wife is merely
>>>>>>>>>>>> another affirmative action poster child?
>>>>>>>>>>>> That gotta hurt.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, re-read the links please....:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 9:16 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It still does not change the fact that people would envy Obama not
>> ...
>>

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Jul 8, 2009, 9:56:24 PM7/8/09
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Why don’t you ask George W Bush?

On Jul 8, 9:31 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
> > Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
> > useless bookworms like you.
>
> Well then blacks should *also* openly admit that fact don't you think?
> "I'm an affirmative action baby and I'm sooooooo mighty proud!!"
>
> Like Sotomayor did. :)
>
> (Your point 2 btw.)
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
> >>> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
> >>> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
> >>> action.
> >> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm
>
> >>> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
> >>>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
> >>>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
> >>>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
> >>>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

> >>>>> provide statistics, “theory” but could not change the facts, that is,


> >>>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
> >>>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
> >>>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
> >>>> how come they
> >>>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
> >>>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
> >>>> Sotomayor did?
> >>>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
> >>>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

> >>>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That’s part of affirmative

> >>>>>>> action… no discrimination against dwarf either.

> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -

RichAsianKid

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Jul 8, 2009, 10:10:13 PM7/8/09
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> Why don�t you ask George W Bush?
>

Only if you promise you ask 2/3 blacks.


> On Jul 8, 9:31 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
>>> Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
>>> useless bookworms like you.
>> Well then blacks should *also* openly admit that fact don't you think?
>> "I'm an affirmative action baby and I'm sooooooo mighty proud!!"
>>
>> Like Sotomayor did. :)
>>
>> (Your point 2 btw.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
>>>>> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
>>>>> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
>>>>> action.
>>>> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm
>>>>> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
>>>>>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
>>>>>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
>>>>>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
>>>>>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

>>>>>>> provide statistics, �theory� but could not change the facts, that is,


>>>>>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
>>>>>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
>>>>>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
>>>>>> how come they
>>>>>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
>>>>>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
>>>>>> Sotomayor did?
>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
>>>>>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

>>>>>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That�s part of affirmative

>>>>>>>>> action� no discrimination against dwarf either.

>> read more �- Hide quoted text -

cnhktwsgusukfrru

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Why do I care? It did not bother me.

On Jul 8, 10:10 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> > Why don’t you ask George W Bush?


>
> Only if you promise you ask 2/3 blacks.
>
>
>
> > On Jul 8, 9:31 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>> Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
> >>> Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
> >>> useless bookworms like you.
> >> Well then blacks should *also* openly admit that fact don't you think?
> >> "I'm an affirmative action baby and I'm sooooooo mighty proud!!"
>
> >> Like Sotomayor did. :)
>
> >> (Your point 2 btw.)
>
> >>> On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
> >>>>> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
> >>>>> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
> >>>>> action.
> >>>> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm
> >>>>> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
> >>>>>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
> >>>>>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
> >>>>>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
> >>>>>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

> >>>>>>> provide statistics, “theory” but could not change the facts, that is,


> >>>>>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
> >>>>>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
> >>>>>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
> >>>>>> how come they
> >>>>>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
> >>>>>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
> >>>>>> Sotomayor did?
> >>>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
> >>>>>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

> >>>>>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That’s part of affirmative

> >>>>>>>>> action… no discrimination against dwarf either.

> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -

RichAsianKid

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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> Why do I care? It did not bother me.
>

Then why keep replying? ;)


> On Jul 8, 10:10 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>> Why don�t you ask George W Bush?


>> Only if you promise you ask 2/3 blacks.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 9:31 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>> Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
>>>>> Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
>>>>> useless bookworms like you.
>>>> Well then blacks should *also* openly admit that fact don't you think?
>>>> "I'm an affirmative action baby and I'm sooooooo mighty proud!!"
>>>> Like Sotomayor did. :)
>>>> (Your point 2 btw.)
>>>>> On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
>>>>>>> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
>>>>>>> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
>>>>>>> action.
>>>>>> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm
>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
>>>>>>>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
>>>>>>>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
>>>>>>>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
>>>>>>>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

>>>>>>>>> provide statistics, �theory� but could not change the facts, that is,


>>>>>>>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
>>>>>>>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
>>>>>>>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
>>>>>>>> how come they
>>>>>>>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
>>>>>>>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
>>>>>>>> Sotomayor did?
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
>>>>>>>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

>>>>>>>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That�s part of affirmative

>>>>>>>>>>> action� no discrimination against dwarf either.

>> read more �- Hide quoted text -

cnhktwsgusukfrru

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Just for fun.

On Jul 8, 10:18 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > Why do I care? It did not bother me.
>
> Then why keep replying?  ;)
>
>
>
> > On Jul 8, 10:10 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>> Why don’t you ask George W Bush?


> >> Only if you promise you ask 2/3 blacks.
>
> >>> On Jul 8, 9:31 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>> Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
> >>>>> Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
> >>>>> useless bookworms like you.
> >>>> Well then blacks should *also* openly admit that fact don't you think?
> >>>> "I'm an affirmative action baby and I'm sooooooo mighty proud!!"
> >>>> Like Sotomayor did. :)
> >>>> (Your point 2 btw.)
> >>>>> On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
> >>>>>>> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
> >>>>>>> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
> >>>>>>> action.
> >>>>>> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm
> >>>>>>> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
> >>>>>>>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
> >>>>>>>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
> >>>>>>>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
> >>>>>>>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

> >>>>>>>>> provide statistics, “theory” but could not change the facts, that is,


> >>>>>>>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
> >>>>>>>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
> >>>>>>>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
> >>>>>>>> how come they
> >>>>>>>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
> >>>>>>>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
> >>>>>>>> Sotomayor did?
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
> >>>>>>>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

> >>>>>>>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That’s part of affirmative

> >>>>>>>>>>> action… no discrimination against dwarf either.

> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -

rst0wxyz

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On Jul 10, 4:10 am, cnhktwsgusukfrru <cnhktwsgusukf...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Just for fun.

And he has nothing better to do and lots of time on hand!!!

abia...@weirdness.com

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Jul 10, 2009, 2:36:46 PM7/10/09
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What a load of crap! Rusty Old Fool, you are 一個變態的神經病人, 瘋人院里爬出來的.

Hey Rusty Old Fool you said a long time ago that Chairman Mao is same
poster as Xangdi, and now you say he is not, after I have told
everyone that you told me so. I guess you are really crazy! Maybe your
gf and your dog don't want to suck your little prick anymore. Haha!
You are so dumb. You should go to a shrink. I mean it. You are 一個變態的神經病
人, 瘋人院里爬出來的.

report2009

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Jul 10, 2009, 2:47:20 PM7/10/09
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Psycho Tienxia (WanLF), you have been faking abianchen's account over

a year for revenge. You don't even have balls be yourself. You are a
coward and freak! And stop insulting Thai and Filipino people!

Original abianchen: abia...@my-deja.com since May, 2000.

Fake abianchen (psycho Tienxia): various abianc*@*.com but they are
all fake for his own revenge against original abianchen. Tienxia =
anti-AbianchenVirus = WanLF = racist troll Chairman Mao...

On Jul 10, 2:36 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@weirdness.com>
wrote:

> > And he has nothing better to do and lots of time on hand!!!- Hide quoted text -

RichAsianKid

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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> Just for fun.

Oh! Racism and inequality are now very funny to you! We see!


>
> On Jul 8, 10:18 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> Why do I care? It did not bother me.
>> Then why keep replying? ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 10:10 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>> Why don�t you ask George W Bush?


>>>> Only if you promise you ask 2/3 blacks.
>>>>> On Jul 8, 9:31 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>> Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
>>>>>>> Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
>>>>>>> useless bookworms like you.
>>>>>> Well then blacks should *also* openly admit that fact don't you think?
>>>>>> "I'm an affirmative action baby and I'm sooooooo mighty proud!!"
>>>>>> Like Sotomayor did. :)
>>>>>> (Your point 2 btw.)
>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
>>>>>>>>> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
>>>>>>>>> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
>>>>>>>>> action.
>>>>>>>> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
>>>>>>>>>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
>>>>>>>>>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
>>>>>>>>>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
>>>>>>>>>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

>>>>>>>>>>> provide statistics, �theory� but could not change the facts, that is,


>>>>>>>>>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
>>>>>>>>>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
>>>>>>>>>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
>>>>>>>>>> how come they
>>>>>>>>>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
>>>>>>>>>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
>>>>>>>>>> Sotomayor did?
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

>>>>>>>>>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That�s part of affirmative

>>>>>>>>>>>>> action� no discrimination against dwarf either.

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Fight Kangaroo Courts

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Jul 12, 2009, 1:26:19 AM7/12/09
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The Zionists plan is working, infiltrate and then divide and
conquer !!

On Jun 17, 4:35 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Masochism is only so fun until you asphyxiate.....oooooh like Carradine?
>
> And hell is truth seen too late.
>
> * * * * *http://www.vdare.com/bradley/090616_hate_crime.htm
>
> Cal State’s Brian Levin And The Case Of The “Hate Crime” That Wasn’t.
> (Guess Why Not)
>
> By Peter Bradley
>
> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made “hate crimes” a
> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the
> media seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a
> hate criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who
> denies the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy
> theories.
>
> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the
> Southern Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate
> groups threatened by diversity:
>
> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the
> latest in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing
> extremist ‘lone wolves’ over the past three months. When shocking
> violence like this arises, commentators point to various factors
> including mental illness, political debates and the availability of guns.
>
> “We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding
> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>
> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end
> of his column.
>
> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>
> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim.  It's much bigger
> than that.  That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any
> racist who takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'
>
> “Instigation is critical here.  We need to make a serious assessment of
> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009, 8:47PM]
>
> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
> Holocaust Museum incident.
>
> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>
> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no
> attention or outrage.
>
> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery
> was a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the
> store even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah
> Muhammed). Yusuf Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and
> Antoine Mackey, one of Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills
> in the head with an assault rifle.
>
> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
> murder:
>
> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey
> IV and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw
> him walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of
> racially motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.
>
> “'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV
> and Mackey.
>
> “Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
> shot him,' Broussard added.
>
> “Bey IV later said, ‘We got a devil. White people are devils,’ according
> to Broussard's statement.
>
> “Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about ‘a devil mentality. A black man
> can be a devil if he's against his people.’ Bey IV and his late father,
> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white
> people as ‘devils.’ And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita
> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often
> made similar statements, referring to ‘white and Jew devils’ and ‘media
> devils’ whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader
> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
>
> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
>
> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race
> policy in America. The Mercury News article continues:
>
> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate
> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a ‘hate-crime expert’ who
> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. ‘Hate
> crimes are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive
> beyond a reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.’"
>
> We can’t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James
> Byrd and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much
> problem peering into von Brunn's thought process.
>
> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
>
> He said:
>
> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven
> to a particular standard?  It can be highly appropriate for
> (prosecutors) tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional
> items. Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."
>
> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San
> Bernadino’s Brian Levin—who had no problem lecturing us about the threat
> posed by "an old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
>
> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother
> of the victim:
>
> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
> was white. So I don't see any reason why that (hate crime enhancement)
> should not be part of the charges. For it to not to be there is horrible."
>
> Horrible or not, the decision not to pursue hate crime charges against
> the killers of Wills is not surprising given the race of the victim and
> the shooters.
>
> But Your Black Muslim Bakery has a long history of racial violence that
> leaves von Brunn in the shade. Though held up as a model of black self
> sufficiency, the bakery was linked to widespread physical and sexual
> abuse, intimidation, welfare fraud, and murder. Bey IV and Mackey also
> had good reason to joke about the Zebra Killings as some of the
> killers—all black Muslims—were connected to the bakery according to
> Clark Howard, author of Zebra, the definitive book on the murders.[Read
> the first chapter (PDF)]
>
> The Zebra Killings occurred in the San Francisco bay area between 1972
> and 1974. Though seldom discussed, they are the worst case of
> racially-motivated serial murder in U.S. history. Carried out by black
> Muslims who went looking to kill "white devils", the attacks left up to
> 71 people dead and many injured.
>
> Bey IV and Mackey were apparently looking to add to this legacy.
>
> The late Sam Francis used to note that some hate crimes are more equal
> than others. The different reactions to the von Brunn and Your Black
> Muslim Bakery shootings prove that nothing has changed.
>
> When the hate crimes bill is debated in the Senate you can be sure the
> names Matthew Shepard, James Byrd, James von Brunn and Stephen Johns,
> the black guard killed in the Holocaust Museum shooting, will be
> highlighted.
>
> You can also be sure that the names Michael Wills, Yusuf Bey IV and
> Antoine Mackey will never be mentioned.
>
> The hate crimes bill, if passed, will certainly stifle free speech and
> strengthen the thought police. It will also be yet another exercise in
> unequal and selective justice.

cnhktwsgusukfrru

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Yes your silly racism sounds very funny to me.

On Jul 11, 11:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > Just for fun.
>
> Oh! Racism and inequality are now very funny to you! We see!
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 8, 10:18 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>> Why do I care? It did not bother me.
> >> Then why keep replying?  ;)
>
> >>> On Jul 8, 10:10 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>> Why don’t you ask George W Bush?


> >>>> Only if you promise you ask 2/3 blacks.
> >>>>> On Jul 8, 9:31 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>> Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
> >>>>>>> Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
> >>>>>>> useless bookworms like you.
> >>>>>> Well then blacks should *also* openly admit that fact don't you think?
> >>>>>> "I'm an affirmative action baby and I'm sooooooo mighty proud!!"
> >>>>>> Like Sotomayor did. :)
> >>>>>> (Your point 2 btw.)
> >>>>>>> On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
> >>>>>>>>> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
> >>>>>>>>> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
> >>>>>>>>> action.
> >>>>>>>> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
> >>>>>>>>>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
> >>>>>>>>>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
> >>>>>>>>>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
> >>>>>>>>>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

> >>>>>>>>>>> provide statistics, “theory” but could not change the facts, that is,


> >>>>>>>>>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
> >>>>>>>>>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
> >>>>>>>>>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
> >>>>>>>>>> how come they
> >>>>>>>>>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
> >>>>>>>>>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
> >>>>>>>>>> Sotomayor did?
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That’s part of affirmative

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> action… no discrimination against dwarf either.

> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -

RichAsianKid

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Jul 12, 2009, 8:04:50 PM7/12/09
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> Yes your silly racism sounds very funny to me.
>

Just for fun then how is RichAsianKid's "silly racism" different from,
oh, say, "vintage" racism if racism even exists at all? Just
curious....btw & keep in mind we're now post-Obama

> On Jul 11, 11:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> Just for fun.
>> Oh! Racism and inequality are now very funny to you! We see!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 10:18 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>> Why do I care? It did not bother me.
>>>> Then why keep replying? ;)
>>>>> On Jul 8, 10:10 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>> Why don�t you ask George W Bush?


>>>>>> Only if you promise you ask 2/3 blacks.
>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 9:31 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
>>>>>>>>> Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
>>>>>>>>> useless bookworms like you.
>>>>>>>> Well then blacks should *also* openly admit that fact don't you think?
>>>>>>>> "I'm an affirmative action baby and I'm sooooooo mighty proud!!"
>>>>>>>> Like Sotomayor did. :)
>>>>>>>> (Your point 2 btw.)
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
>>>>>>>>>>> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
>>>>>>>>>>> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
>>>>>>>>>>> action.
>>>>>>>>>> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
>>>>>>>>>>>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide statistics, �theory� but could not change the facts, that is,


>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
>>>>>>>>>>>> how come they
>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sotomayor did?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That�s part of affirmative

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action� no discrimination against dwarf either.

>> read more �- Hide quoted text -

RichAsianKid

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Fight Kangaroo Courts wrote:
> The Zionists plan is working, infiltrate and then divide and
> conquer !!
>

Maybe in this respect the Asian phenotype can also simultaneously
function immunologically? That is, Asians recognize Jews immediately --
they just look different; gentile whites don't necessarily so.


> On Jun 17, 4:35 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Masochism is only so fun until you asphyxiate.....oooooh like Carradine?
>>
>> And hell is truth seen too late.
>>
>> * * * * *http://www.vdare.com/bradley/090616_hate_crime.htm
>>

>> Cal State�s Brian Levin And The Case Of The �Hate Crime� That Wasn�t.


>> (Guess Why Not)
>>
>> By Peter Bradley
>>

>> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made �hate crimes� a


>> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
>> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the
>> media seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a
>> hate criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who
>> denies the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy
>> theories.
>>
>> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
>> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
>> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the
>> Southern Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate
>> groups threatened by diversity:
>>
>> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
>> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
>> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the
>> latest in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing

>> extremist �lone wolves� over the past three months. When shocking


>> violence like this arises, commentators point to various factors
>> including mental illness, political debates and the availability of guns.
>>

>> �We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding


>> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
>> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>>
>> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end
>> of his column.
>>
>> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
>> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>>
>> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
>> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
>> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim. It's much bigger
>> than that. That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any
>> racist who takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'
>>

>> �Instigation is critical here. We need to make a serious assessment of


>> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
>> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009, 8:47PM]
>>
>> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
>> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
>> Holocaust Museum incident.
>>
>> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>>
>> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no
>> attention or outrage.
>>
>> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
>> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery
>> was a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the
>> store even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah
>> Muhammed). Yusuf Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and
>> Antoine Mackey, one of Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills
>> in the head with an assault rifle.
>>
>> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
>> murder:
>>
>> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
>> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey
>> IV and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw
>> him walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of
>> racially motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.
>>

>> �'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV
>> and Mackey.
>>
>> �Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
>> shot him,' Broussard added.
>>
>> �Bey IV later said, �We got a devil. White people are devils,� according
>> to Broussard's statement.
>>
>> �Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about �a devil mentality. A black man
>> can be a devil if he's against his people.� Bey IV and his late father,


>> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white

>> people as �devils.� And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita


>> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often

>> made similar statements, referring to �white and Jew devils� and �media
>> devils� whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader


>> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
>> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
>>
>> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
>> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
>>
>> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race
>> policy in America. The Mercury News article continues:
>>
>> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
>> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
>> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate

>> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a �hate-crime expert� who
>> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. �Hate


>> crimes are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive

>> beyond a reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.�"
>>
>> We can�t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James


>> Byrd and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much
>> problem peering into von Brunn's thought process.
>>
>> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
>> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
>>
>> He said:
>>
>> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven
>> to a particular standard? It can be highly appropriate for
>> (prosecutors) tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional
>> items. Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."
>>
>> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San

>> Bernadino�s Brian Levin�who had no problem lecturing us about the threat


>> posed by "an old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
>>
>> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
>> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother
>> of the victim:
>>
>> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
>> was white. So I don't see any reason why that (hate crime enhancement)
>> should not be part of the charges. For it to not to be there is horrible."
>>
>> Horrible or not, the decision not to pursue hate crime charges against
>> the killers of Wills is not surprising given the race of the victim and
>> the shooters.
>>
>> But Your Black Muslim Bakery has a long history of racial violence that
>> leaves von Brunn in the shade. Though held up as a model of black self
>> sufficiency, the bakery was linked to widespread physical and sexual
>> abuse, intimidation, welfare fraud, and murder. Bey IV and Mackey also
>> had good reason to joke about the Zebra Killings as some of the

>> killers�all black Muslims�were connected to the bakery according to

cnhktwsgusukfrru

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQEk4p0x-hE

On Jul 12, 8:04 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> > Yes your silly racism sounds very funny to me.
>
> Just for fun then how is RichAsianKid's "silly racism" different from,
> oh, say, "vintage" racism if racism even exists at all? Just
> curious....btw & keep in mind we're now post-Obama
>
>
>
> > On Jul 11, 11:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>> Just for fun.
> >> Oh! Racism and inequality are now very funny to you! We see!
>
> >>> On Jul 8, 10:18 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>> Why do I care? It did not bother me.
> >>>> Then why keep replying?  ;)
> >>>>> On Jul 8, 10:10 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> >>>>>>> Why don’t you ask George W Bush?


> >>>>>> Only if you promise you ask 2/3 blacks.
> >>>>>>> On Jul 8, 9:31 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
> >>>>>>>>> Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
> >>>>>>>>> useless bookworms like you.
> >>>>>>>> Well then blacks should *also* openly admit that fact don't you think?
> >>>>>>>> "I'm an affirmative action baby and I'm sooooooo mighty proud!!"
> >>>>>>>> Like Sotomayor did. :)
> >>>>>>>> (Your point 2 btw.)
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
> >>>>>>>>>>> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
> >>>>>>>>>>> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
> >>>>>>>>>>> action.
> >>>>>>>>>> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> provide statistics, “theory” but could not change the facts, that is,


> >>>>>>>>>>>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
> >>>>>>>>>>>> how come they
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sotomayor did?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That’s part of affirmative

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action… no discrimination against dwarf either.

> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -

RichAsianKid

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Jul 13, 2009, 8:17:37 PM7/13/09
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQEk4p0x-hE

You mean Michael Jackson's dead? Wow, point made.

And besides why should anyone listen to this screw-up anyhow - look at
the age he finally succumbed (is this called 'karma'?), look at how he
mutilated his own face - do you know of *anyone* who does that to
themselves btw? Because I don't. His own self-hatred must have been
extreme, and his cri de coeur in his own discomfit with his own identity
in the video you posted is obvious.


> On Jul 12, 8:04 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>> Yes your silly racism sounds very funny to me.
>> Just for fun then how is RichAsianKid's "silly racism" different from,
>> oh, say, "vintage" racism if racism even exists at all? Just
>> curious....btw & keep in mind we're now post-Obama
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 11, 11:32 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>> Just for fun.
>>>> Oh! Racism and inequality are now very funny to you! We see!
>>>>> On Jul 8, 10:18 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>> Why do I care? It did not bother me.
>>>>>> Then why keep replying? ;)
>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 10:10 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Why don�t you ask George W Bush?


>>>>>>>> Only if you promise you ask 2/3 blacks.
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 9:31 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
>>>>>>>>>>> Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
>>>>>>>>>>> useless bookworms like you.
>>>>>>>>>> Well then blacks should *also* openly admit that fact don't you think?
>>>>>>>>>> "I'm an affirmative action baby and I'm sooooooo mighty proud!!"
>>>>>>>>>> Like Sotomayor did. :)
>>>>>>>>>> (Your point 2 btw.)
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
>>>>>>>>>>>>> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
>>>>>>>>>>>>> action.
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide statistics, �theory� but could not change the facts, that is,


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how come they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sotomayor did?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That�s part of affirmative

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action� no discrimination against dwarf either.

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Jul 14, 2009, 5:48:28 AM7/14/09
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You and MJ have one thing in common – could not face your own identity
so MJ had plastic surgery and you have to claim as “honorary
Japanese”. In the “Black or White” video clip, MJ condemned racism but
you have used racism to cover up your own self-denial.

Like I said, even you think being Chinese so shameful but it’s really
up to you to earn respect like Obama. Your self-denial only made
yourself look bad. In the end, you still come to soc.culture.china not
soc.culture.japan or soc.culture.usa you know you could not change the
fact.

> >>>>>>>>> Why don’t you ask George W Bush?


> >>>>>>>> Only if you promise you ask 2/3 blacks.
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 9:31 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
> >>>>>>>>>>> useless bookworms like you.
> >>>>>>>>>> Well then blacks should *also* openly admit that fact don't you think?
> >>>>>>>>>> "I'm an affirmative action baby and I'm sooooooo mighty proud!!"
> >>>>>>>>>> Like Sotomayor did. :)
> >>>>>>>>>> (Your point 2 btw.)
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> action.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide statistics, “theory” but could not change the facts, that is,


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how come they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sotomayor did?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That’s part of affirmative

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action… no discrimination against dwarf either.

> ...
>
> read more »- Hide quoted text -

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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> You and MJ have one thing in common � could not face your own identity
> so MJ had plastic surgery and you have to claim as �honorary
> Japanese�. In the �Black or White� video clip, MJ condemned racism but

> you have used racism to cover up your own self-denial.
>
> Like I said, even you think being Chinese so shameful but it�s really

> up to you to earn respect like Obama. Your self-denial only made
> yourself look bad. In the end, you still come to soc.culture.china not
> soc.culture.japan or soc.culture.usa you know you could not change the
> fact.

Hmmmmmmm, I don't get the logic here - why then insist RichAsianKid is
so "strong"? I mean, what's there *not* to like being China or Chinese
now that it's on its path to ascendancy? What exactly?

>>>>>>>>>>> Why don�t you ask George W Bush?


>>>>>>>>>> Only if you promise you ask 2/3 blacks.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 9:31 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> useless bookworms like you.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well then blacks should *also* openly admit that fact don't you think?
>>>>>>>>>>>> "I'm an affirmative action baby and I'm sooooooo mighty proud!!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> Like Sotomayor did. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Your point 2 btw.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide statistics, �theory� but could not change the facts, that is,


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how come they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sotomayor did?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That�s part of affirmative

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action� no discrimination against dwarf either.

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What a load of crap! ten-cents can handle it. He has big cock as hard
as rock. You'll be completely satisfied by the time he's finished
with you, abianchen cunt aka meichi filthy smelly pussy. He'll give
you enough fucks to satisfy you.

On Jul 10, 11:36 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@weirdness.com>
wrote:

report2009

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Rusty Old Fool and Psycho Tienxia stole a Thai girl's photos to frame
Chinese guy, abianchen, NO ONE believed them. Now these two idiots
have earned themselves a reputation of thief and liar, haha!

=====
Original abianchen (Chinese guy): abia...@my-deja.com since May
2000. So click "view profile".

Fake abianchen (by psycho Tienxia): various abianc*@*.com but they are


all fake for his own revenge against original abianchen. Tienxia =
anti-AbianchenVirus = WanLF = racist troll Chairman Mao...

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Penang

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On Jun 16, 11:35 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Masochism is only so fun until you asphyxiate.....oooooh like Carradine?
>
> And hell is truth seen too late.
>
> * * * * *http://www.vdare.com/bradley/090616_hate_crime.htm
>
> Cal State’s Brian Levin And The Case Of The “Hate Crime” That Wasn’t.

> (Guess Why Not)
>
> By Peter Bradley
>
> Last week's shooting at the Holocaust Museum has made “hate crimes” a

> front page issue once again. It may give the stalled federal hate crimes
> bill the added boost it needs to become law. In James von Brunn, the
> media seems to have discovered its carefully created stereotype of a
> hate criminal: an old, bitter white man with a history of violence, who
> denies the Holocaust, despises non-whites and holds bizarre conspiracy
> theories.
>
> The usual suspects have hustled to take advantage of their good fortune.
> Brian Levin (email him), a Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice
> professor and a "civil-rights attorney" who used to work with the
> Southern Poverty Law Center ($PLC), declared in a CNN.com article, Hate
> groups threatened by diversity:
>
> "Yesterday, less than a mile from the White House, an old bigoted white
> man was suspected of firing back his response at the place where America
> tries to draw lessons from ... hatred. Yesterday's shooting is the
> latest in a series of murderous attacks by erratic far-right-wing
> extremist ‘lone wolves’ over the past three months. When shocking

> violence like this arises, commentators point to various factors
> including mental illness, political debates and the availability of guns.
>
> “We, however, must first acknowledge the hand of a small but expanding

> hate movement as a potent, yet invisible, accomplice that incites and
> inspires society's disaffected to serve as its most violent warriors."
>
> Levin mentions the pending hate crimes bill as "good news" near the end
> of his column.
>
> Leftist blogs such as TPMCafe are exploiting the incident to push for
> censorship and/or punishment of views they don't like:
>
> "Hate speech and hate crimes are sociological, not just psychological.
> It's ridiculous to look at one of these crimes from the shortened
> perspective of the point of the gun to the victim.  It's much bigger
> than that.  That's why I think it's a misconception to conclude any
> racist who takes someone's life 'acted alone' or is 'a lone wolf'
>
> “Instigation is critical here.  We need to make a serious assessment of

> those who disguise their hate speech as free speech." [When it comes to
> hate crimes, there's no such thing as "acting alone". June 10, 2009, 8:47PM]
>
> But two weeks before the von Brunn shootings, The San Jose Mercury News
> ran a short article about a similar crime that was just as deadly as the
> Holocaust Museum incident.
>
> The killers were motivated by the same type of hatred and extremism.
>
> Yet, for some strange reason, the murder has attracted almost no
> attention or outrage.
>
> In July 2007, Michael Wills, a white man, was shot and killed by two
> members of Your Black Muslim Bakery. As the name suggests, the bakery
> was a racial-nationalist outfit with ties to the Nation of Islam (the
> store even displayed a prominent picture of NOI founder Elijah
> Muhammed). Yusuf Bey IV, the leader of the now-defunct bakery, and
> Antoine Mackey, one of Bey's followers, were charged with shooting Wills
> in the head with an assault rifle.
>
> The Mercury News article leaves no doubt as to the racial motive of the
> murder:
>
> "Devaughndre Broussard, another Bey IV follower who has admitted to
> killing journalist Chauncey Bailey, told a prosecutor in March that Bey
> IV and Mackey bragged they killed Wills because of his race. The two saw
> him walking in North Oakland as they were discussing a string of
> racially motivated murders in the 1970s known as the Zebra killings.
>
> “'They was laughing about and joking about,' Broussard said of Bey IV
> and Mackey.
>
> “Mackey 'said he seen the white dude walking down the path ... then he
> shot him,' Broussard added.
>
> “Bey IV later said, ‘We got a devil. White people are devils,’ according
> to Broussard's statement.
>
> “Then Broussard said Bey IV talked about ‘a devil mentality. A black man
> can be a devil if he's against his people.’ Bey IV and his late father,

> bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white
> people as ‘devils.’ And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita

> Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often
> made similar statements, referring to ‘white and Jew devils’ and ‘media
> devils’ whom he claims are trying to destroy him."[Former bakery leader

> accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing, By Josh
> Richman and Thomas, May 26, 2009]
>
> An open and shut case of a racially-motivated hate crime? Think again.
> Prosecutors are not seeking a hate crime charge against Bey IV and Mackey.
>
> And that decision meets with the approval of those who direct race
> policy in America. The Mercury News article continues:
>
> "Prosecutors tend to be very hesitant to charge hate crime cases "...
> because they're really, really hard to prove: You have to prove the
> offender's motive beyond a reasonable doubt," explained Associate
> Professor Phyllis Gerstenfeld, [Email her] a ‘hate-crime expert’ who
> chairs the criminal justice program at Cal State, Stanislaus. ‘Hate

> crimes are the only criminal acts that require you to prove motive
> beyond a reasonable doubt... and we can't read people's minds.’"
>
> We can’t? Prosecutors had no problems reading the minds of the James

> Byrd and Matthew Shepherd killers. Nor are they likely to have much
> problem peering into von Brunn's thought process.
>
> According to the Mercury News, a certain "civil rights attorney" agrees
> that hate crime charges do not make sense in this particular case.
>
> He said:
>
> "Why go through having to interject something that now has to be proven
> to a particular standard?  It can be highly appropriate for
> (prosecutors) tactically to avoid overburdening the jury with additional
> items. Sometimes the cleanest, simplest case is the best."
>
> The person making these remarks: none other than Cal State San
> Bernadino’s Brian Levin—who had no problem lecturing us about the threat

> posed by "an old bigoted white man" only weeks later.
>
> Unlike "civil rights" attorneys, the distraught Wills family wants to
> pursue a hate crime charge. According to Patrick Wills, younger brother
> of the victim:
>
> "Everybody knows the only reason (Michael Wills) was shot was because he
> was white. So I don't see any reason why that (hate crime enhancement)
> should not be part of the charges. For it to not to be there is horrible."
>
> Horrible or not, the decision not to pursue hate crime charges against
> the killers of Wills is not surprising given the race of the victim and
> the shooters.
>
> But Your Black Muslim Bakery has a long history of racial violence that
> leaves von Brunn in the shade. Though held up as a model of black self
> sufficiency, the bakery was linked to widespread physical and sexual
> abuse, intimidation, welfare fraud, and murder. Bey IV and Mackey also
> had good reason to joke about the Zebra Killings as some of the
> killers—all black Muslims—were connected to the bakery according to

> Clark Howard, author of Zebra, the definitive book on the murders.[Read
> the first chapter (PDF)]
>
> The Zebra Killings occurred in the San Francisco bay area between 1972
> and 1974. Though seldom discussed, they are the worst case of
> racially-motivated serial murder in U.S. history. Carried out by black
> Muslims who went looking to kill "white devils", the attacks left up to
> 71 people dead and many injured.
>
> Bey IV and Mackey were apparently looking to add to this legacy.
>
> The late Sam Francis used to note that some hate crimes are more equal
> than others. The different reactions to the von Brunn and Your Black
> Muslim Bakery shootings prove that nothing has changed.
>
> When the hate crimes bill is debated in the Senate you can be sure the
> names Matthew Shepard, James Byrd, James von Brunn and Stephen Johns,
> the black guard killed in the Holocaust Museum shooting, will be
> highlighted.
>
> You can also be sure that the names Michael Wills, Yusuf Bey IV and
> Antoine Mackey will never be mentioned.
>
> The hate crimes bill, if passed, will certainly stifle free speech and
> strengthen the thought police. It will also be yet another exercise in
> unequal and selective justice.

Allah u Akbar, America !!!!

The Nation of Islam incident is nothing but a start

The White Devils will die, of course, so that the black and brown apes
can rule USA !

cnhktwsgusukfrru

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Jul 16, 2009, 11:18:08 PM7/16/09
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People like Obama are strong. People like you and MJ are weak. You
don’t even feel comfortable with your own identity and you are
promoting racism here, that’s weird!

On Jul 14, 6:09 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

> > You and MJ have one thing in common – could not face your own identity
> > so MJ had plastic surgery and you have to claim as “honorary

> > Japanese”. In the “Black or White” video clip, MJ condemned racism but


> > you have used racism to cover up your own self-denial.
>

> > Like I said, even you think being Chinese so shameful but it’s really

> >>>>>>>>>>> Why don’t you ask George W Bush?


> >>>>>>>>>> Only if you promise you ask 2/3 blacks.
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 9:31 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> useless bookworms like you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well then blacks should *also* openly admit that fact don't you think?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "I'm an affirmative action baby and I'm sooooooo mighty proud!!"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Like Sotomayor did. :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (Your point 2 btw.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide statistics, “theory” but could not change the facts, that is,


> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how come they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sotomayor did?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That’s part of affirmative

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action… no discrimination against dwarf either.

> ...
>
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Jul 17, 2009, 9:50:09 PM7/17/09
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cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
> People like Obama are strong. People like you and MJ are weak. You
> don�t even feel comfortable with your own identity and you are
> promoting racism here, that�s weird!

Wait wait!!! You now now now wrote: "People like you and MJ are
weak." Why then did you quote weak guy Michael Jackson in the first
place??? You love weak people don't you?


>
> On Jul 14, 6:09 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:

>>> You and MJ have one thing in common � could not face your own identity
>>> so MJ had plastic surgery and you have to claim as �honorary

>>> Japanese�. In the �Black or White� video clip, MJ condemned racism but


>>> you have used racism to cover up your own self-denial.

>>> Like I said, even you think being Chinese so shameful but it�s really

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don�t you ask George W Bush?


>>>>>>>>>>>> Only if you promise you ask 2/3 blacks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 9:31 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Affirmative Action is no secret. We all know how George W Bush got in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yale his father is his Affirmative Action. He became US president for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useless bookworms like you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well then blacks should *also* openly admit that fact don't you think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I'm an affirmative action baby and I'm sooooooo mighty proud!!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like Sotomayor did. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Your point 2 btw.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 7:28 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of them have potential to be managers or President for bookworms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like you. George W Bush is one of them and he did not need affirmative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action either to get in Yale because his father is his affirmative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Some of them" as you admitted - like only 1/3 of them perhaps?http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/06/07/affirm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 10:25 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the fact is that those black students later become corporate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> managers, US President and those likes of RAK have to work for them or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be ruled by them. Looks like affirmative action works great. Those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> black students have shown more potential than likes of RAK etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bookworms once they are given the chance. Bookworms like RAK can

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide statistics, �theory� but could not change the facts, that is,


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are just bookworm and often lack of leadership skills so they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to find decent jobs but have to work for others.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if these blacks really have so much untapped "potential" as you say
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how come they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) need affirmative action to begin with?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) not honestly admit that they are affirmative action babies, like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sotomayor did?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 3:37 am, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnhktwsgusukfrru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone can go to college as long as they are qualified. Even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dwarfRAK can go to college but school may have to provide him a tall

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chair so professor Obama can see him. That�s part of affirmative

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action� no discrimination against dwarf either.

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