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I think it's interesting how politically correct various individuals are
trying to be.
I'm not really involved with the 3D Printing process and have hesitated to
buy anything either because it is too expensive or too finicky. I really
love RepRap and find it interesting that so many designs are based on or
have evolved from it. I can't understand why MakerBot would close their
designs after riding on the back of RepRap so long. Further, why would they
close their designs after they had utilized improvements from their own
customers.
J. Prussia and others seem to be improving some of the core designs and
making them more user friendly. My hope lies there.
Josh
On Sep 23, 2012 12:03 PM, "Jordan Miller" <jrdn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> his response doesn't make sense.
>
> jordan
>
>
>
> On Sep 23, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Chris Thompson <eaglea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There's the response form Adrian I was hoping for.
> >
> > --
> > Chris Thompson
> > eagleapex.com
> > Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig)
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, September 23, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Joshua D. Johnson wrote:
> >
> >> You guys probably all get this, I thought it was excellent.
> >>
> >> MAKE (http://blog.makezine.com) - MakerBot=E2=80=99s Mixed Messages Ab=
out Open
> Source, Their Future
> >> In This Issue...
> >> MakerBot=E2=80=99s Mixed Messages About Open Source, Their Future
> (#139f1f4fa0f4090a_0)
> >> More Recent Articles (#139f1f4fa0f4090a_150060_recap)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> (This is a followup to my post: Is One of Our Open Source Heroes Going
> Closed Source? (
> http://blog.makezine.com/2012/09/19/is-one-of-our-open-source-heroes-goin=
g-closed-source/
> ))
> >> In the wake of MakerBot=E2=80=99s Replicator 2 announcement, there has=
been a
> lot of discussion and questioning about the open source status of the
> company=E2=80=99s offerings. The MakerWare (http://www.makerbot.com/maker=
ware/)
> software used to control both the new printer and the original Replicator
> is available for download now. It is clearly closed source, even though i=
t
> contains some open source software, and instead of being open source, the=
y
> are offering a developer program (
> http://www.makerbot.com/makerware/#developer).
> >> When asked if the Replicator 2 will be open source hardware, the
> response in a post by Bre Pettis on the MakerBot blog (
> http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2012/09/20/fixing-misinformation-with-inform=
ation/)
> never directly answered the question. Instead, the response indicates tha=
t
> they no longer believe that they can have a =E2=80=9Csustainable business=
=E2=80=9D with
> open hardware, citing a lack of =E2=80=9Clarge, successful open hardware =
companies.=E2=80=9D
> >> At one point Bre even questions, =E2=80=9CWill we be successful? I hop=
e so, but
> even if we are not, everyone will find out that either being as open as
> possible is a good thing for business or that nobody should do it, or
> something in between.=E2=80=9D This doesn=E2=80=99t seem to indicate that=
they have a clear
> plan that they are confident of.
> >> The comments on the page are generally critical of the lack of a direc=
t
> answer, and Bre responded to each in turn with his own comment. He still
> does not directly answer the primary question, but does attempt to more
> directly explain why:
> >>
> >> Lasivian (http://www.lasivian.com/)
> >>
> >> Uh, FYI, You posed this question:
> >>
> >>
> >> =E2=80=9CQuestion 1: Is the MakerBot Replicator 2 Open Source?=E2=80=
=9D
> >>
> >>
> >> But you do not answer it. You just dance around it and throw out a
> bunch of happy words about open source.
> >>
> >>
> >> Bre Responds:
> >>
> >> Lasivian =E2=80=93 Folks really want a black or white answer, but in m=
y
> experience, it just doesn=E2=80=99t work that way when combining open sou=
rce,
> hardware, and business. There is an open hardware definition, but it=E2=
=80=99s a
> far throw from a business model.
> >>
> >>
> >> Chris B
> >>
> >> Doesn=E2=80=99t seem like there are some wildly different issues faced=
by =E2=80=98open
> hardware=E2=80=99 than by =E2=80=98open software=E2=80=99 and there are m=
any examples of very
> successful and very large businesses doing open software and providing
> services as a way to make money.
> >>
> >>
> >> The analogies are there. Innovate and capitalize on services and
> enterprise features while remaining open with your core like the big boys
> do.
> >>
> >>
> >> Bre responds:
> >>
> >> Chris B =E2=80=93 Software and hardware have some similarities, but it=
=E2=80=99s really
> different stuff. But I take your point about service and we are adding a
> pro-level of support by offering MakerCare. Will people purchase it? We=
=E2=80=99ll
> see.
> >>
> >> Bre=E2=80=99s statements and answers alternate between confidence and
> uncertainty for MakerBot=E2=80=99s future, and seems to indicate that the=
y don=E2=80=99t
> have a definite plan of action.
> >> Adrian Bowyer, founding father of the RepRap project (
> http://reprap.org/) from which MakerBot was born, also comments at length
> on the MakerBot post. His summary seems to explain his position fairly we=
ll:
> >>
> >> If you are taking part in the RepRap project, then I hope that you
> believe Open Source to be a morally and politically good thing, as I do.
> But if you don=E2=80=99t believe that, you are still welcome to take part=
, by me at
> least. When it comes to the success or failure of RepRap, moral beliefs,
> legal constraints and the flow of money are almost completely irrelevant.
> >>
> >>
> >> It is the evolutionary game theory that matters.
> >>
> >>
> >> Zack =E2=80=98Hoeken=E2=80=99 Smith, a MakerBot co-founder who is not =
longer with the
> company, responded to the post (
> http://www.hoektronics.com/2012/09/21/makerbot-and-open-source-a-founder-=
perspective/)
> with understandable emotion. He described the content of the post as =E2=
=80=9Ca
> load of corporate double-speak bull****,=E2=80=9D and described MakerBot=
=E2=80=99s move to
> closed source as =E2=80=9Cthe ultimate betrayal.=E2=80=9D He ends the pos=
t with an excerpt
> from the Open Source Hardware Definiton (http://freedomdefined.org/OSHW).
> >> In Bre=E2=80=99s post, he also answered some questions about the Thing=
iverse
> terms of service, basically reiterating what he said earlier in the year =
(
> http://blog.thingiverse.com/2012/02/10/thingiverse-updates-terms-of-use-a=
nd-license-options/).
> This is most likely in reaction to Josef Pr=C5=AF=C5=A1a=E2=80=99s Occupy=
Thingiverse (
> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:30808), an emotional reaction =E2=80=94 =
shared
> by many =E2=80=94 from one of the most prominent contributors to the RepR=
ap project
> to the terms of service changes as well as MakerBot=E2=80=99s alleged rel=
easing new
> products as closed source. (It appears that Josef misunderstood that the
> terms of service had already been changed, but that doesn=E2=80=99t seem =
to detract
> from his argument.)
> >> Since this topic is so emotionally charged for so many people, there
> have been several in the community who have asked that everyone keep thei=
r
> conversations civil. Phillip Torrone (=E2=80=9Cpt=E2=80=9D) from MAKE and=
Adafruit,
> commented on the MakerBot blog post:
> >>
> >> thanks for posting this up bre, this is a great conversation that
> everyone can and should join in, thoughtfully -and- respectful to each
> other. let=E2=80=99s all be good to each other with our words & actions. =
there=E2=80=99s a
> lot of passion here for many. this is a great opportunity to talk about
> open source and open source hardware as companies like makerbot, adafruit=
,
> sparkfun, etc, etc grow. so let=E2=80=99s talk
> >>
> >>
> >> In this thoughtful post (
> http://www.tigoe.net/blog/category/open-innovation/408/) by Tom Igoe of
> the Arduino team he sums up with:
> >>
> >>
> >> So: if you=E2=80=99ve got an objection to what MakerBot or anyone in y=
our own
> community does, speak up. But do it politely. Before you say anything,
> phrase it as if you had the person you=E2=80=99re addressing in front of =
you. Check
> the language with your grandmother, if you need to.
> >>
> >>
> >> The discovery that MakerBot, as early as 2011, filed for and received =
a
> patent (http://www.patentgenius.com/patent/8226395.html), only adds more
> questions to the discussion. It=E2=80=99s unclear how this affects the op=
en source
> derivatives of their patented technology, such as this Truly Automatic
> Thing-O-Matic (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:20383) on Thingiverse by
> user emmett (http://www.thingiverse.com/emmett).
> >> Many commenters from both my previous post and Bre=E2=80=99s point to =
their VC
> funding (
> http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2011/08/23/all-star-lineup-invests-in-makerb=
ot/)
> as the reason for this sudden move. This seems odd that investors who see=
m
> to understand the promise of open source (
> http://www.foundrygroup.com/wp/2012/06/our-investment-in-pantheon/) and
> even open source some of their legal documents (
> http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2011/07/ask-the-vc-bonus-material.html),
> would make such a move.
> >> It appears that MakerBot is confused in its role in the marketplace an=
d
> the direction it=E2=80=99s heading in general. They seemed to have lost t=
ouch with
> the way that open source is supposed to work, and the core principles tha=
t
> the company was built upon.
> >> Bre sums up with =E2=80=9CThis isn=E2=80=99t the first change we=E2=80=
=99ve made to become more
> of a professional business, and it won=E2=80=99t be our last.=E2=80=9D
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> More:
> >> Is One of Our Open Source Heroes Going Closed Source? (
> http://blog.makezine.com/2012/09/19/is-one-of-our-open-source-heroes-goin=
g-closed-source/
> )
> >> See all of our MakerBot Replicator 2 coverag (
> http://blog.makezine.com/tag/replicator-2/)e
> >>
> >>
> >> Filed under: 3D Printing (
> http://blog.makezine.com/category/desktop-manufacturing-2/3d-printing-des=
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> http://blog.makezine.com/category/open-source-hardware-4/)
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<p>I think it's interesting how politically correct various individuals=
are trying to be. </p>
<p>I'm not really involved with the 3D Printing process and have hesita=
ted to buy anything either because it is too expensive or too finicky. I re=
ally love RepRap and find it interesting that so many designs are based on =
or have evolved from it. I can't understand why MakerBot would close th=
eir designs after riding on the back of RepRap so long. Further, why would =
they close their designs after they had utilized improvements from their ow=
n customers.</p>
<p>J. Prussia and others seem to be improving some of the core designs and =
making them more user friendly. My hope lies there.</p>
<p>Josh</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 23, 2012 12:03 PM, "Jordan Miller&qu=
ot; <<a href=3D"mailto:jrdn...@gmail.com">jrdn...@gmail.com</a>> wrot=
e:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
his response doesn't make sense.<br>
<br>
jordan<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sep 23, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Chris Thompson <<a href=3D"mailto:eagleape=
x...@gmail.com">eaglea...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> There's the response form Adrian I was hoping for.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Chris Thompson<br>
> <a href=3D"http://eagleapex.com" target=3D"_blank">eagleapex.com</a><b=
r>
> Sent with Sparrow (<a href=3D"http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig</a>)<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sunday, September 23, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Joshua D. Johnson wrote:<br=
>
><br>
>> You guys probably all get this, I thought it was excellent.<br>
>><br>
>> MAKE (<a href=3D"http://blog.makezine.com" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//blog.makezine.com</a>) - MakerBot=E2=80=99s Mixed Messages About Open Sou=
rce, Their Future<br>
>> In This Issue...<br>
>> MakerBot=E2=80=99s Mixed Messages About Open Source, Their Future =
(#139f1f4fa0f4090a_0)<br>
>> More Recent Articles (#139f1f4fa0f4090a_150060_recap)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> (This is a followup to my post: Is One of Our Open Source Heroes G=
oing Closed Source? (<a href=3D"http://blog.makezine.com/2012/09/19/is-one-=
of-our-open-source-heroes-going-closed-source/" target=3D"_blank">http://bl=
og.makezine.com/2012/09/19/is-one-of-our-open-source-heroes-going-closed-so=
urce/</a>))<br>
>> In the wake of MakerBot=E2=80=99s Replicator 2 announcement, there=
has been a lot of discussion and questioning about the open source status =
of the company=E2=80=99s offerings. The MakerWare (<a href=3D"http://www.ma=
kerbot.com/makerware/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.makerbot.com/makerware/=
</a>) software used to control both the new printer and the original Replic=
ator is available for download now. It is clearly closed source, even thoug=
h it contains some open source software, and instead of being open source, =
they are offering a developer program (<a href=3D"http://www.makerbot.com/m=
akerware/#developer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.makerbot.com/makerware/#d=
eveloper</a>).<br>
>> When asked if the Replicator 2 will be open source hardware, the r=
esponse in a post by Bre Pettis on the MakerBot blog (<a href=3D"http://www=
.makerbot.com/blog/2012/09/20/fixing-misinformation-with-information/" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2012/09/20/fixing-misinformation=
-with-information/</a>) never directly answered the question. Instead, the =
response indicates that they no longer believe that they can have a =E2=80=
=9Csustainable business=E2=80=9D with open hardware, citing a lack of =E2=
=80=9Clarge, successful open hardware companies.=E2=80=9D<br>
>> At one point Bre even questions, =E2=80=9CWill we be successful? I=
hope so, but even if we are not, everyone will find out that either being =
as open as possible is a good thing for business or that nobody should do i=
t, or something in between.=E2=80=9D This doesn=E2=80=99t seem to indicate =
that they have a clear plan that they are confident of.<br>
>> The comments on the page are generally critical of the lack of a d=
irect answer, and Bre responded to each in turn with his own comment. He st=
ill does not directly answer the primary question, but does attempt to more=
directly explain why:<br>
>><br>
>> Lasivian (<a href=3D"http://www.lasivian.com/" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttp://www.lasivian.com/</a>)<br>
>><br>
>> Uh, FYI, You posed this question:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> =E2=80=9CQuestion 1: Is the MakerBot Replicator 2 Open Source?=E2=
=80=9D<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> But you do not answer it. You just dance around it and throw out a=
bunch of happy words about open source.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Bre Responds:<br>
>><br>
>> Lasivian =E2=80=93 Folks really want a black or white answer, but =
in my experience, it just doesn=E2=80=99t work that way when combining open=
source, hardware, and business. There is an open hardware definition, but =
it=E2=80=99s a far throw from a business model.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Chris B<br>
>><br>
>> Doesn=E2=80=99t seem like there are some wildly different issues f=
aced by =E2=80=98open hardware=E2=80=99 than by =E2=80=98open software=E2=
=80=99 and there are many examples of very successful and very large busine=
sses doing open software and providing services as a way to make money.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> The analogies are there. Innovate and capitalize on services and e=
nterprise features while remaining open with your core like the big boys do=
.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Bre responds:<br>
>><br>
>> Chris B =E2=80=93 Software and hardware have some similarities, bu=
t it=E2=80=99s really different stuff. But I take your point about service =
and we are adding a pro-level of support by offering MakerCare. Will people=
purchase it? We=E2=80=99ll see.<br>
>><br>
>> Bre=E2=80=99s statements and answers alternate between confidence =
and uncertainty for MakerBot=E2=80=99s future, and seems to indicate that t=
hey don=E2=80=99t have a definite plan of action.<br>
>> Adrian Bowyer, founding father of the RepRap project (<a href=3D"h=
ttp://reprap.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://reprap.org/</a>) from which Mak=
erBot was born, also comments at length on the MakerBot post. His summary s=
eems to explain his position fairly well:<br>
>><br>
>> If you are taking part in the RepRap project, then I hope that you=
believe Open Source to be a morally and politically good thing, as I do. B=
ut if you don=E2=80=99t believe that, you are still welcome to take part, b=
y me at least. When it comes to the success or failure of RepRap, moral bel=
iefs, legal constraints and the flow of money are almost completely irrelev=
ant.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> It is the evolutionary game theory that matters.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Zack =E2=80=98Hoeken=E2=80=99 Smith, a MakerBot co-founder who is =
not longer with the company, responded to the post (<a href=3D"http://www.h=
oektronics.com/2012/09/21/makerbot-and-open-source-a-founder-perspective/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.hoektronics.com/2012/09/21/makerbot-and-open-s=
ource-a-founder-perspective/</a>) with understandable emotion. He described=
the content of the post as =E2=80=9Ca load of corporate double-speak bull*=
***,=E2=80=9D and described MakerBot=E2=80=99s move to closed source as =E2=
=80=9Cthe ultimate betrayal.=E2=80=9D He ends the post with an excerpt from=
the Open Source Hardware Definiton (<a href=3D"http://freedomdefined.org/O=
SHW" target=3D"_blank">http://freedomdefined.org/OSHW</a>).<br>
>> In Bre=E2=80=99s post, he also answered some questions about the T=
hingiverse terms of service, basically reiterating what he said earlier in =
the year (<a href=3D"http://blog.thingiverse.com/2012/02/10/thingiverse-upd=
ates-terms-of-use-and-license-options/" target=3D"_blank">http://blog.thing=
iverse.com/2012/02/10/thingiverse-updates-terms-of-use-and-license-options/=
</a>). This is most likely in reaction to Josef Pr=C5=AF=C5=A1a=E2=80=99s O=
ccupy Thingiverse (<a href=3D"http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:30808" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:30808</a>), an emotional reac=
tion =E2=80=94 shared by many =E2=80=94 from one of the most prominent cont=
ributors to the RepRap project to the terms of service changes as well as M=
akerBot=E2=80=99s alleged releasing new products as closed source. (It appe=
ars that Josef misunderstood that the terms of service had already been cha=
nged, but that doesn=E2=80=99t seem to detract from his argument.)<br>
>> Since this topic is so emotionally charged for so many people, the=
re have been several in the community who have asked that everyone keep the=
ir conversations civil. Phillip Torrone (=E2=80=9Cpt=E2=80=9D) from MAKE an=
d Adafruit, commented on the MakerBot blog post:<br>
>><br>
>> thanks for posting this up bre, this is a great conversation that =
everyone can and should join in, thoughtfully -and- respectful to each othe=
r. let=E2=80=99s all be good to each other with our words & actions. th=
ere=E2=80=99s a lot of passion here for many. this is a great opportunity t=
o talk about open source and open source hardware as companies like makerbo=
t, adafruit, sparkfun, etc, etc grow. so let=E2=80=99s talk<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> In this thoughtful post (<a href=3D"http://www.tigoe.net/blog/cate=
gory/open-innovation/408/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.tigoe.net/blog/cate=
gory/open-innovation/408/</a>) by Tom Igoe of the Arduino team he sums up w=
ith:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> So: if you=E2=80=99ve got an objection to what MakerBot or anyone =
in your own community does, speak up. But do it politely. Before you say an=
ything, phrase it as if you had the person you=E2=80=99re addressing in fro=
nt of you. Check the language with your grandmother, if you need to.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> The discovery that MakerBot, as early as 2011, filed for and recei=
ved a patent (<a href=3D"http://www.patentgenius.com/patent/8226395.html" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://www.patentgenius.com/patent/8226395.html</a>), only=
adds more questions to the discussion. It=E2=80=99s unclear how this affec=
ts the open source derivatives of their patented technology, such as this T=
ruly Automatic Thing-O-Matic (<a href=3D"http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2=
0383" target=3D"_blank">http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:20383</a>) on Thin=
giverse by user emmett (<a href=3D"http://www.thingiverse.com/emmett" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://www.thingiverse.com/emmett</a>).<br>
>> Many commenters from both my previous post and Bre=E2=80=99s point=
to their VC funding (<a href=3D"http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2011/08/23/al=
l-star-lineup-invests-in-makerbot/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.makerbot.c=
om/blog/2011/08/23/all-star-lineup-invests-in-makerbot/</a>) as the reason =
for this sudden move. This seems odd that investors who seem to understand =
the promise of open source (<a href=3D"http://www.foundrygroup.com/wp/2012/=
06/our-investment-in-pantheon/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.foundrygroup.c=
om/wp/2012/06/our-investment-in-pantheon/</a>) and even open source some of=
their legal documents (<a href=3D"http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2011/07/=
ask-the-vc-bonus-material.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.feld.com/wp/ar=
chives/2011/07/ask-the-vc-bonus-material.html</a>), would make such a move.=
<br>
>> It appears that MakerBot is confused in its role in the marketplac=
e and the direction it=E2=80=99s heading in general. They seemed to have lo=
st touch with the way that open source is supposed to work, and the core pr=
inciples that the company was built upon.<br>
>> Bre sums up with =E2=80=9CThis isn=E2=80=99t the first change we=
=E2=80=99ve made to become more of a professional business, and it won=E2=
=80=99t be our last.=E2=80=9D<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> More:<br>
>> Is One of Our Open Source Heroes Going Closed Source? (<a href=3D"=
http://blog.makezine.com/2012/09/19/is-one-of-our-open-source-heroes-going-=
closed-source/" target=3D"_blank">http://blog.makezine.com/2012/09/19/is-on=
e-of-our-open-source-heroes-going-closed-source/</a>)<br>
>> See all of our MakerBot Replicator 2 coverag (<a href=3D"http://bl=
og.makezine.com/tag/replicator-2/)e" target=3D"_blank">http://blog.makezine=
.com/tag/replicator-2/)e</a><br>
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g.makezine.com/category/open-source-hardware-4/" target=3D"_blank">http://b=
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