Received: by 10.236.117.66 with SMTP id i42mr17791696yhh.8.1349880676245; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:51:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: hive76-discussion@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.187.39 with SMTP id x27ls870435yhm.4.gmail; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.80.166 with SMTP id s6mr5700883pax.30.1349880674289; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.80.166 with SMTP id s6mr5700882pax.30.1349880674274; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mail-pb0-f45.google.com (mail-pb0-f45.google.com [209.85.160.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o10si423593pax.0.2012.10.10.07.51.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of sean.mcb...@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.45; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of sean.mcb...@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=sean.mcb...@gmail.com; dkim=pass header...@gmail.com Received: by mail-pb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id rp2so883591pbb.18 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:51:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=C3dBu/j9ATw/qaEHk2sXI78ijLyLCxAizug6NB09g08=; b=qZ3jC/QhP9g0pPWFOtEo3jkexFSeRkeBUozA0gHWbCfDCAPP5dsuhAMp7G2ZrcAaJV yNdAXzEV84Yvluzp8pBldxCwPdq5dWQHrUBbqdWDAc47/JlyIDlMwilNRBZrF3blgXSY A4722XSsiMrX73mQynctPMpnXBpEZRLkLBn0ueYA7MvRYNxQV9VO3ct+RnUhbeUTr65o cipU19xK0bbZCnjklIyyiAYoJS3foFF1ik4SYX4rGwrBBqLlKm11vNDqQcqfdhLBTn+3 WdVeBUZOpc0p7X+P+5Fc34iHueASdGlxbaIoQlkhswKCea1mA1IxfHpHuUrykxB28/IM elZg== Received: by 10.68.141.46 with SMTP id rl14mr74570876pbb.2.1349880674061; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:51:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.202.168 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:50:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <031ef7ee-959e-4c71-8744-aa8a0c901391@googlegroups.com> References: <7cd4ee03-9049-4b66-aad8-b09f3cd05fe7@googlegroups.com> <5d96513a-a78e-448c-8477-2c82fcebe7df@googlegroups.com> <031ef7ee-959e-4c71-8744-aa8a0c901391@googlegroups.com> From: Sean McBeth Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:50:53 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics To: hive76-discussion@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b1121a5110dd004cbb596f2 --047d7b1121a5110dd004cbb596f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 That would be really cool if you guys got involved with OSE and got Hive's name involved with them. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Rich Hart wrote: > Love the guys at OSE! > > > On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:28:23 AM UTC-4, J.Johnson wrote: > >> >> Marcin over at Open Source Ecology has a Wiki of sorts started here. >> I'd hate to reinvent the wheel on this one as it seems like a lot of people >> have a good start on it. >> Having said that I haven't ever seen a non-proprietary control system. >> Orgs either go with no controls other than a few float switches and a pump >> or fully controlled with really expensive stuff. This leaves a lot of room >> for development. >> >> Can we start at the beginning and vet all ideas out? >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM, andrew sooy wrote: >> >>> everything is still in the beginning stage we don't even have a design >>> 100% yet so anything can happen it is open already to members of hive. >>> i am trying to do it in sections and what i am looking at right now is >>> efficient water transfer from bottom to top and other ideas bounced around. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Sean McBeth wrote: >>> >>>> It works better to release it earlier: 1) you never know what help >>>> you'll get, 2) it motivates you to keep going, knowing that other people >>>> are watching what you're doing. >>>> >>>> Release early, release often. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:16 AM, andrew sooy wrote: >>>> >>>>> but it would not be released till fully done with the project to >>>>> make sure most of the bugs are out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM, andrew sooy wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> yes >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Joshua D. Johnson < >>>>>> objectsu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> *I should be able to make it around 7., hoping for development of >>>>>>> simple, known tech first followed by complicated stuff. * >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> *You are thinking open source and fully documented!?* >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> *JOSH >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM, andrew11235 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will be at open house tonight and plan to play around with a few >>>>>>>> ideas for the project with a couple experiments and bouncing ideas off >>>>>>>> people. >>>>>>>> concepts >>>>>>>> efficient water transfer up, efficient space utilization, osmosis * >>>>>>>> *membranes/semi-osmotic **membranes, water Ph/Particle balancing, >>>>>>>> If anyone has ideas they would like to throw around that would be >>>>>>>> much appreciated this is a working project. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish >>>>>>>>> tilapia or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a >>>>>>>>> mixture of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics. >>>>>>>>> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter >>>>>>>>> is plant line which contains a bio-filter ( usually **crushed** porous rock >>>>>>>>> and an aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump >>>>>>>>> tank where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle. >>>>>>>>> There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow >>>>>>>>> and a "pump and dump" or flood. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope >>>>>>>>> there is interest. >>>>>>>>> interest that go with aquaponics >>>>>>>>> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc. >>>>>>>>> a cool site gardenpool.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to hive76-d...@**googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send email to hive76-discuss...@**googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For more awesome goto http://groups.google.com/** >>>>>>>> group/hive76-discussion?hl=en >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to hive76-d...@**googlegroups.com >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send email to hive76-discuss...@**googlegroups.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For more awesome goto http://groups.google.com/** >>>>>>> group/hive76-discussion?hl=en >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> To post to this group, send email to hive76-d...@**googlegroups.com >>>>> To unsubscribe send email to hive76-discuss...@**googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> For more awesome goto http://groups.google.com/** >>>>> group/hive76-discussion?hl=en >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> To post to this group, send email to hive76-d...@**googlegroups.com >>>> To unsubscribe send email to hive76-discuss...@**googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> For more awesome goto http://groups.google.com/** >>>> group/hive76-discussion?hl=en >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> To post to this group, send email to hive76-d...@**googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe send email to hive76-discuss...@**googlegroups.com >>> >>> For more awesome goto http://groups.google.com/** >>> group/hive76-discussion?hl=en >>> >> >> -- > To post to this group, send email to hive76-discussion@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe send email to > hive76-discussion+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > For more awesome goto > http://groups.google.com/group/hive76-discussion?hl=en > --047d7b1121a5110dd004cbb596f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That would be really cool if you guys got involved with OSE and got Hive= 9;s name involved with them.

On Wed, Oct = 10, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Rich Hart <richhoh...@gmail.com> wr= ote:
Love the guys at OSE!

<= br>On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:28:23 AM UTC-4, J.Johnson wrote:
=

Marcin over = at Open Source Ecology has a Wiki of sorts started here. I'd hate t= o reinvent the wheel on this one as it seems like a lot of people have a go= od start on it.=C2=A0
Having said that I haven= 9;t ever seen a non-proprietary control system. Orgs either go with no cont= rols other than a few float switches and a pump or fully controlled with re= ally expensive stuff. This leaves a lot of room for development.

Can we start at the beginning = and vet all ideas out?

<= br>
On Wed, O= ct 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmai= l.com> wrote:
everything is still = in the=C2=A0beginning=C2=A0stage we don't even have a design 100% yet s= o anything can happen it is open already to members of hive.
i am trying to do it in sections and what i am looking at right now is effi= cient water transfer from=C2=A0bottom=C2=A0to top and other ideas bounced a= round.


On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10= :17 AM, Sean McBeth <sean....@gmail.com> wrote:
It works better to release it earlier: 1) you never know what help you'= ll get, 2) it motivates you to keep going, knowing that other people are wa= tching what you're doing.

Release early, release often.


On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:16 = AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com> = wrote:
but it would not be released till fully done with the=C2=A0project=C2=A0to = make=C2=A0sure=C2=A0most of the bugs are out.


On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM, an= drew sooy <andre...@gmail.com> wrote:=
yes


On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Joshua D. Joh= nson <objectsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
I should be able to make it a= round 7., hoping for development of simple, known tech first followed by co= mplicated stuff.=C2=A0

= You are thinking open source and fully documented!?
=

JOSH

On Wed, = Oct 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM, andrew11235 <andre...@gmai= l.com> wrote:
I will be at open ho= use tonight and plan to play around with a few ideas for the project with a= couple experiments and bouncing ideas off people.
concepts
efficient=C2=A0water transfer up,=C2=A0efficient=C2=A0sp= ace utilization,=C2=A0osmosis=C2=A0membranes/semi-osmotic=C2=A0membranes, water Ph/Particle=C2=A0balancing,
If=C2=A0anyone=C2= =A0has ideas they would=C2=A0like to=C2=A0throw around that would be much= =C2=A0appreciated=C2=A0this is a working project.



On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 = wrote:
I was wondering if= there was any=C2=A0interest=C2=A0in Aquaponic systems?

What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding f= ish tilapia or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil=C2=A0= usually=C2=A0a mixture of water and nutrients )=C2=A0combining=C2=A0the two= you get aquaponics.
A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter is pl= ant line which contains a=C2=A0bio-filter=C2=A0(=C2=A0usually=C2=A0c= rushed=C2=A0porous=C2=A0rock and an aerator=C2=A0)=C2=A0 then the wa= ter flows through the plants and in to a=C2=A0sump tank where Ph is balance= d and any=C2=A0excess=C2=A0particles settle.
There are two=C2=A0different=C2=A0kinds of aquaponic systems=C2=A0cont= inues=C2=A0flow and a "pump and dump" or flood.=C2=A0
<= br>
There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics = and i hope there is interest.
interest that go with aquaponics=C2=A0
=C2=A0automation= -=C2=A0harvesting, natural Ph=C2=A0balancing, bio=C2=A0fuel etc.
a cool site gardenpool= .org
=C2=A0 =C2=A0

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