Monthly Electronic Music Night

[Daniel Toliaferro]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to gauge interest for a group Steve and I are thinking about

putting together. We have a nice number of members who are musicians

or at least interested in creating electronic sound. This would be a group

for those people.

Basically we'd have Rush listening hour, I mean uh... presentations on

sound design, DSP programming sessions, project show and tell, and 

maybe even jam sessions if anybody's interested (I knew Steve and I are).

What do you think guys?

- Dan

[Jim Fisher]

Maybe an Intro Class first to get some new folk into the space, and
see if there is enough impetus to grow it beyond that.

Because once they learn, Hive76 can be the place, as members, that
they work on their projects.

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[Sean McBeth]

I don't see a point in doing it on a monthly basis. On a regular basis, it becomes an obligation, which to me is the opposite of fun.

And I'm getting pretty tired of these regular meetup groups taking up space and never contributing anything back to the space. Have we gotten even one membership out of the robotics group? And they're the most likely candidates of the bunch. What does anyone coming to play Magic or watch Star Trek care about a hackerspace?

[Randy]

I care about all three...  Hacker Space, Robotics and Star Trek..  Oh and 3D Printing, that I have yet to do a single print :-(

 

JMO

 

Randy

[Daniel Toliaferro]

Sean, we actually have a potential member from the Robotics Group. 

He seemed very interested in the space, but only time will tell.

All the people who play Magic care about the space, even the new guy

Steve seemed very interested in it.

- Dan

[Daniel Toliaferro]

Sean, also are games suddenly not cool at the space? You guys play

Rainbow Six and Team Fortress a lot too. I don't think to myself while

you're playing: "oh, these guys don't care about the space right now

because they're playing games."

[Daniel Toliaferro]

Moreover, I wasn't aware that groups had to contribute anything. I mean,

I agree that they should. But, it's not listed anywhere that they have to.

You didn't mention MMMM, why did you leave that group out? Or do you

just have a problem with my groups? From what I've seen (no offense PJ

I'm not attacking you) MMMM contributes just as much as my groups do.

What new members have we gotten from MMMM?

IMO, all groups contribute by getting people in the doors, and putting

events on our calendar.

[99]

What does anyone coming to play Magic or watch
> Star Trek care about a hackerspace?

The same that a pythonista cares about NextFab?
http://www.meetup.com/phillypug/events/59292332/

[Adam Kaufman]

I don't think the point of having outside groups meet at the space has necessarily been to attract new members, as much as it is to promote technology and provide a space for ideas to be discussed. That said, I would personally be more concerned that we have all of these people coming to the space that don't see the value in becoming a member and contributing themselves, regardless of how they got there.

[Sean McBeth]

Before I begin, I have to take a step back and recognize that, as much as I can, I want to set aside my minor, oh so minor, position of authority in this organization. What I say is not at all to be construed as the official policy of the organization. I'm definitely not trying to invoke a Core membership veto, either. I'm just talking as Sean McBeth, a guy, who is here very often.

Okay, message begins.

I hope that anyone who gets use of the space on a regular basis tries to join us as a member, to become a friend (and not the Facebook definition of the word), and to pitch in anyway they can. I am not talking about anyone who only contributes through the discussion board. I wish everyone on this discussion board could come by the space much more often, as I'm sure they wish they could be here, too. Such people aren't taking much out of the space.

Dan, I knee-jerk reacted to your original post on DIY Music Group. I apologize.Taken on it's own (as it should be), it sounds like a good idea and might bring people in who would be interested in joining us. That alone means it's worth trying, and thank you for coming up with ideas. I kind of thought that certain other groups would lead to new membership, but it never happened, but that also has no bearing on this issue. 

But I do think in general that there are certain groups that don't have much of a potential for increased engagement. Just because DIY folk are more likely to be [Star Trek fans|Gamers|<insert other fandom>] doesn't mean said fandom are very likely at all to be DIY folk. Doing a member's night to watch Star Trek or play games with the aim of getting everyone to know each other better makes sense. Trying to get new members through LAN gaming nights doesn't.

 We're not a NextFab deal where there is a delineation between service-providers and service-consumers. We're a paramutual group, and I stand by the value that everyone and every individual has an equal right to determining the use of the space, so long as those people take the personal responsibility to implement it. There are people who come to our free events nothing else, not seek membership, not donate money, not stick around to help clean up, not even write about how grateful they are towards us. Counter-example: I recently noticed that a certain non-member frequently purchases a case of soda for the space before coming to any events. We're going to make him a member. We need to correct that balance, because he has become a friend. But he is the only case I know of.

Maybe they do see us as a business rather than as a social group and we've failed to make that message clear. It just feels rude when people come here and expect me to do things for them. Not with them; for them. Hive isn't my job. I'll entertain the idea if they come to me with some offer of compensation, but I'd rather do it for free together, because that's what this place is to me.