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Sean McBeth  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 5:13 pm
From: Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:13:59 -0400
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 5:13 pm
Subject: An Etsy for electronics projects

Interesting idea
http://www.tindie.com/about/


 
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 More options May 1 2012, 5:38 am
From: pezman <mikehoga...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 02:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: An Etsy for electronics projects

I like kitify.com better.
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 More options May 1 2012, 7:33 am
From: Daniel Provenzano <daniel.j.provenz...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 04:33:40 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: An Etsy for electronics projects

Hmm, pretty interesting. I'd love to see where that goes.

Speaking of which, how often would you guys say that you make projects for
purchase? Somebody recently floated the idea to me - which I was kind of
near repulsed by since I usually start a project primarily as a learning
experience. But at the same time alot of folks are definitely making
creations at a professional level.


 
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 More options May 1 2012, 9:16 am
From: Jack Zylkin <jzyl...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 09:16:12 -0400
Local: Tues, May 1 2012 9:16 am
Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: An Etsy for electronics projects

I probably make half of my projects with the goal of selling them, and I dont have much problem selling kits and electronics on etsy -- although I wish they had a diy electronics category, or a kits category for that matter.  The problem with business models like "the etsy of this" or "the kickstarter of that" is that etsy and kickstarter could easily co-opt the idea just by adding a new category to their site.  True, Facebook was "the myspace of college kids" but it was also superior in design to myspace.  

Even so, if tindie puts a fire under etsy so they target us makers as well as crafters, Id be very happy.

Jack Zylkin
USB Typewriter LLC
www.usbtypewriter.com

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 More options May 1 2012, 11:13 am
From: Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 11:13:06 -0400
Local: Tues, May 1 2012 11:13 am
Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: An Etsy for electronics projects

Jack, excellent point on competition.

Dan, I've never specifically built a project for sale, but latelt have been
thinking about it.
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 More options May 1 2012, 1:27 pm
From: illovich <illov...@illovich.com>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 13:27:11 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] An Etsy for electronics projects

The challenge of that kind of site is reputation and aura - it's basically down to the dude making the site being able to get people who want the goods he's selling to automatically think of him when they want something in that class.

I think that specific niche is awesome, but I also don't shop for it much - in the sense that I think "hey, I'd like an item made by a hacker/maker type person" ... it's more that I get wind of a specific project and I either google it or follow links from a trusty source.

It's kind of like saying "I can do the iTunes store better" - it wouldn't be that hard, it's the worst online shopping experience in the world IMHO,  and seriously Amazon is a fucking nightmare UI wise (try to find your friend's wish list) ... but they both won on a more important level, and a lower tier of whatever you call that (mindshare? consumer confidence?  laziness?) is where Tindle would have to win to be successful (and if it can be successful, I think its actually more likely that Etsy would fail if it tried to subvert their hypothetical success, because they'd re-inscribe the aura of tindle - 'they're copying Tindle, because Tindle is so awesome')  

But I hope he's successful - I'd like to see as many successes in the DIY/Maker/Crafter as are possible, for sure.

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 More options May 1 2012, 3:15 pm
From: "Justin Dunham" <jus...@justindunham.net>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 15:15:45 -0400
Local: Tues, May 1 2012 3:15 pm
Subject: RE: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: An Etsy for electronics projects

Little late in responding, but thanks for the Kitify shoutout, Mike :)

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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: An Etsy for electronics projects

Jack, excellent point on competition.

Dan, I've never specifically built a project for sale, but latelt have been
thinking about it.

On May 1, 2012 9:16 AM, "Jack Zylkin" <jzyl...@gmail.com> wrote:

I probably make half of my projects with the goal of selling them, and I
dont have much problem selling kits and electronics on etsy -- although I
wish they had a diy electronics category, or a kits category for that
matter.  The problem with business models like "the etsy of this" or "the
kickstarter of that" is that etsy and kickstarter could easily co-opt the
idea just by adding a new category to their site.  True, Facebook was "the
myspace of college kids" but it was also superior in design to myspace.  

Even so, if tindie puts a fire under etsy so they target us makers as well
as crafters, Id be very happy.

Jack Zylkin

USB Typewriter LLC

www.usbtypewriter.com

On May 1, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Daniel Provenzano

<daniel.j.provenz...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmm, pretty interesting. I'd love to see where that goes.

Speaking of which, how often would you guys say that you make projects for
purchase? Somebody recently floated the idea to me - which I was kind of
near repulsed by since I usually start a project primarily as a learning
experience. But at the same time alot of folks are definitely making
creations at a professional level.

On Monday, April 30, 2012 2:13:59 PM UTC-7, sean.mcbeth wrote:

Interesting idea
http://www.tindie.com/about/

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Joshua D. Johnson  
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 More options May 2 2012, 5:33 pm
From: "Joshua D. Johnson" <objectsunlimi...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:33:31 -0400
Local: Wed, May 2 2012 5:33 pm
Subject: RE: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: An Etsy for electronics projects

I had the idea of having all the typically plastic parts required to build
a RepRap injection molded. In conjunction I would try and make up a kit,
some really detailed instructions and maybe some optimized software etc.
Any thoughts? I know molds would be expensive and some parts would require
drilling because of geometry. Obviously it would be openly available and
done for the benefit of Hive76, RepRap.org and those involved.

Any thoughts and criticism appreciated.

Josh


 
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 More options May 3 2012, 7:24 am
From: Dave <dgsh...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 04:24:22 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, May 3 2012 7:24 am
Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: An Etsy for electronics projects

It's not a bad idea. There have been a couple of similar efforts, one of
which involved Hive members:

http://www.hive76.org/cast-resin-3d-printer-parts

and one of which I think we just inherited:

http://www.hive76.org/bronzebot-a-3d-printer-made-of-bronze

Both of these involved cast parts made in silicone or similar molds, rather
than injection molding. I could definitely be wrong as I don't know your
background but I am guessing this effort (having the parts injection
molded, optimizing the software, writing the instructions, etc) is more
than you realize. The previous two casting examples have a much lower
barrier to entry since they won't require thousands of dollars in tooling
and setup fees per unique part, but it's obviously much more manual labor
to crank out parts one at a time and letting them cure as opposed to an
industrial machine kicking out dozens of parts per minute. It's possible
with some leg work and using somebody's injection molding machine (I think
NextFab has a little baby one) you could save some money on the tooling and
setup, but it'll be more work and you'll pay for it in headaches and sweat.
Injection molding requires a lot of attention to detail to get really good
results, so the parts have to be custom designed or at least modified with
IM in mind so you can deal with the realities of manufacturing.

Here's a forum post about other people with the same idea:

http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?94,37924,38964

Here's somebody else apparently doing it:

http://reprap.org/wiki/SeeMeCNC

Let us know if you need a hand, I think a lot of us are interested in
seeing the quality of 3D printers go up and the cost go down. I don't even
have one myself, even though I make the milled extruder bolts for them.

-Dave


 
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 More options May 3 2012, 7:33 am
From: "Joshua D. Johnson" <objectsunlimi...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 07:33:24 -0400
Local: Thurs, May 3 2012 7:33 am
Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: An Etsy for electronics projects

Dave, thanks for the response. I'm having a bunch of other work quoted
right now for both metal and plastic injection and have done a little work
in the industry. my guess is all the little parts would cost no more than
25 cents per peice. We would have some secondary operations (drilling,
tapping, kitting.) but nothing major. I will look into the links you sent.

I am not a member of hive76  but would like to see you guys get a bigger
shop and more tools.

Best,

Josh
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 More options May 3 2012, 11:13 am
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Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 11:13:25 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: An Etsy for electronics projects

Become a member and donate tools! :)
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 More options May 3 2012, 11:56 am
From: "Joshua D. Johnson" <objectsunlimi...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 11:56:50 -0400
Local: Thurs, May 3 2012 11:56 am
Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: An Etsy for electronics projects

Ha!, I would.. I need my tools to be ready for business purposes though. I
do have an Atlas drill press and powermatic scroll saw plus lots of bench
tops if you're interested. Give me a little consideration on the 3D printer
and I'll donate them.

Josh
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 More options May 3 2012, 12:00 pm
From: Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 12:00:16 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: An Etsy for electronics projects

You can use the 3D printer all you want as a member, and we might still
have some materials left over from the last resin casting project. Josh
Dunham was kind of spearheading that, and I think Chris Thompson was
helping him a fair bit. Have you been by our space yet (sorry, I'm bad at
connecting names with faces)?
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 More options May 3 2012, 12:00 pm
From: Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 12:00:56 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: An Etsy for electronics projects

And I totally know his name is Justin Dunham, not Josh. Wow, stayed up way
too late last night :)
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 More options May 3 2012, 4:41 pm
From: "Joshua D. Johnson" <objectsunlimi...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 16:41:27 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: An Etsy for electronics projects

I'm talking about the FDM 2000... I think we've met. I need to drop by on a
wed night again. I'm the guy with zero programming knowledge trying to make
a brakelight...

Josh
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