Hey everyone, Just curious to see who is interested in doing some high-altitude balloon stuff. I personally have much of the equipment required, minus the balloon and helium (because who really keeps that stuff laying around), and would love to put something into near-space, and get some amazing photos out of it as well. I'd like to see what kind of designs you guys come up with, and see if we can get this off the ground (Ba-dum-tsh).
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Dave <dgsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm down. I've never done anything with balloons but I have tons of stuff
> from high-power rocketry that we could reuse if we wanted.
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I have always wondered... How much rocket would be required to continue out after it is lifted to the max height from a balloon like that. Or, if possible is that height enough to use gravity to help slingshot.. I know, sounds stupid, but sometime out of the box thinking..
________________________________ From: Kyle Yankanich <kyleyankan...@gmail.com> To: hive76-discussion@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:14 AM Subject: [Hive 76 Discussion] High Altitude Ballooning
Hey everyone, Just curious to see who is interested in doing some high-altitude balloon stuff. I personally have much of the equipment required, minus the balloon and helium (because who really keeps that stuff laying around), and would love to put something into near-space, and get some amazing photos out of it as well. I'd like to see what kind of designs you guys come up with, and see if we can get this off the ground (Ba-dum-tsh).
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On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Randy <wuchen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have always wondered... How much rocket would be required to continue
> out after it is lifted to the max height from a balloon like that. Or, if
> possible is that height enough to use gravity to help slingshot.. I know,
> sounds stupid, but sometime out of the box thinking..
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Kyle Yankanich <kyleyankan...@gmail.com>
> *To:* hive76-discussion@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:14 AM
> *Subject:* [Hive 76 Discussion] High Altitude Ballooning
> Hey everyone,
> Just curious to see who is interested in doing some high-altitude balloon
> stuff. I personally have much of the equipment required, minus the balloon
> and helium (because who really keeps that stuff laying around), and would
> love to put something into near-space, and get some amazing photos out of
> it as well. I'd like to see what kind of designs you guys come up with, and
> see if we can get this off the ground (Ba-dum-tsh).
> -Kyle
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I'm really curious about that at well. From what I understand, Ballooning
can get you up to 40km from the earth's surface, where there's only 1%
atmosphere, but gravity is still at 98% (31.7729 fps^2).
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Randy <wuchen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have always wondered... How much rocket would be required to continue
> out after it is lifted to the max height from a balloon like that. Or, if
> possible is that height enough to use gravity to help slingshot.. I know,
> sounds stupid, but sometime out of the box thinking..
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Kyle Yankanich <kyleyankan...@gmail.com>
> *To:* hive76-discussion@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:14 AM
> *Subject:* [Hive 76 Discussion] High Altitude Ballooning
> Hey everyone,
> Just curious to see who is interested in doing some high-altitude balloon
> stuff. I personally have much of the equipment required, minus the balloon
> and helium (because who really keeps that stuff laying around), and would
> love to put something into near-space, and get some amazing photos out of
> it as well. I'd like to see what kind of designs you guys come up with, and
> see if we can get this off the ground (Ba-dum-tsh).
> -Kyle
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Did anybody catch the Redbull Stratos jump? A little ambitious for us but
still inspirational.
I've had dreams of attaching a cellphone with a camera to a rocket or any
high altitude craft to catch a glimpse of black sky.... if we could
maintain consistent cellular transmission it maybe possible to live stream
the whole thing.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Kyle Yankanich <kyleyankan...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I'm really curious about that at well. From what I understand, Ballooning
> can get you up to 40km from the earth's surface, where there's only 1%
> atmosphere, but gravity is still at 98% (31.7729 fps^2).
> -- Kyle Yankanich
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Randy <wuchen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I have always wondered... How much rocket would be required to continue
>> out after it is lifted to the max height from a balloon like that. Or, if
>> possible is that height enough to use gravity to help slingshot.. I know,
>> sounds stupid, but sometime out of the box thinking..
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Kyle Yankanich <kyleyankan...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* hive76-discussion@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:14 AM
>> *Subject:* [Hive 76 Discussion] High Altitude Ballooning
>> Hey everyone,
>> Just curious to see who is interested in doing some high-altitude
>> balloon stuff. I personally have much of the equipment required, minus the
>> balloon and helium (because who really keeps that stuff laying around), and
>> would love to put something into near-space, and get some amazing photos
>> out of it as well. I'd like to see what kind of designs you guys come up
>> with, and see if we can get this off the ground (Ba-dum-tsh).
>> -Kyle
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On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:30 AM, David Andraka <dyr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Did anybody catch the Redbull Stratos jump? A little ambitious for us but
> still inspirational.
> I've had dreams of attaching a cellphone with a camera to a rocket or any
> high altitude craft to catch a glimpse of black sky.... if we could
> maintain consistent cellular transmission it maybe possible to live stream
> the whole thing.
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Kyle Yankanich <kyleyankan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> I'm really curious about that at well. From what I understand, Ballooning
>> can get you up to 40km from the earth's surface, where there's only 1%
>> atmosphere, but gravity is still at 98% (31.7729 fps^2).
>> -- Kyle Yankanich
>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Randy <wuchen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> I have always wondered... How much rocket would be required to continue
>>> out after it is lifted to the max height from a balloon like that. Or, if
>>> possible is that height enough to use gravity to help slingshot.. I know,
>>> sounds stupid, but sometime out of the box thinking..
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Kyle Yankanich <kyleyankan...@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* hive76-discussion@googlegroups.com
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:14 AM
>>> *Subject:* [Hive 76 Discussion] High Altitude Ballooning
>>> Hey everyone,
>>> Just curious to see who is interested in doing some high-altitude
>>> balloon stuff. I personally have much of the equipment required, minus the
>>> balloon and helium (because who really keeps that stuff laying around), and
>>> would love to put something into near-space, and get some amazing photos
>>> out of it as well. I'd like to see what kind of designs you guys come up
>>> with, and see if we can get this off the ground (Ba-dum-tsh).
>>> -Kyle
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On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, Felix Baumgartner is a crazy man.
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:30 AM, David Andraka <dyr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Did anybody catch the Redbull Stratos jump? A little ambitious for us
>> but still inspirational.
>> I've had dreams of attaching a cellphone with a camera to a rocket or any
>> high altitude craft to catch a glimpse of black sky.... if we could
>> maintain consistent cellular transmission it maybe possible to live stream
>> the whole thing.
>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Kyle Yankanich <kyleyankan...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>> I'm really curious about that at well. From what I understand,
>>> Ballooning can get you up to 40km from the earth's surface, where there's
>>> only 1% atmosphere, but gravity is still at 98% (31.7729 fps^2).
>>> -- Kyle Yankanich
>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Randy <wuchen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> I have always wondered... How much rocket would be required to
>>>> continue out after it is lifted to the max height from a balloon like
>>>> that. Or, if possible is that height enough to use gravity to help
>>>> slingshot.. I know, sounds stupid, but sometime out of the box thinking..
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Kyle Yankanich <kyleyankan...@gmail.com>
>>>> *To:* hive76-discussion@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:14 AM
>>>> *Subject:* [Hive 76 Discussion] High Altitude Ballooning
>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>> Just curious to see who is interested in doing some high-altitude
>>>> balloon stuff. I personally have much of the equipment required, minus the
>>>> balloon and helium (because who really keeps that stuff laying around), and
>>>> would love to put something into near-space, and get some amazing photos
>>>> out of it as well. I'd like to see what kind of designs you guys come up
>>>> with, and see if we can get this off the ground (Ba-dum-tsh).
>>>> -Kyle
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Actually, I doubt you even need the reflector. UHF and VHF frequencies cna
be very-very low-power if line of sight is maintained.
APRS is actually used alot in this circumstance, which is a form of Ham
Radio packet communication. They recommend using a .5-.1watt radio, so you
don't hit get repeated across VAST distances at that altitude.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Might be able to maintain a cell connection with a parabolic reflector
> hanging from the underside of the balloon.
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Yeah, Felix Baumgartner is a crazy man.
>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:30 AM, David Andraka <dyr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Did anybody catch the Redbull Stratos jump? A little ambitious for us
>>> but still inspirational.
>>> I've had dreams of attaching a cellphone with a camera to a rocket or
>>> any high altitude craft to catch a glimpse of black sky.... if we could
>>> maintain consistent cellular transmission it maybe possible to live stream
>>> the whole thing.
>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Kyle Yankanich <
>>> kyleyankan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm really curious about that at well. From what I understand,
>>>> Ballooning can get you up to 40km from the earth's surface, where there's
>>>> only 1% atmosphere, but gravity is still at 98% (31.7729 fps^2).
>>>> -- Kyle Yankanich
>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Randy <wuchen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> I have always wondered... How much rocket would be required to
>>>>> continue out after it is lifted to the max height from a balloon like
>>>>> that. Or, if possible is that height enough to use gravity to help
>>>>> slingshot.. I know, sounds stupid, but sometime out of the box thinking..
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Kyle Yankanich <kyleyankan...@gmail.com>
>>>>> *To:* hive76-discussion@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:14 AM
>>>>> *Subject:* [Hive 76 Discussion] High Altitude Ballooning
>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>> Just curious to see who is interested in doing some high-altitude
>>>>> balloon stuff. I personally have much of the equipment required, minus the
>>>>> balloon and helium (because who really keeps that stuff laying around), and
>>>>> would love to put something into near-space, and get some amazing photos
>>>>> out of it as well. I'd like to see what kind of designs you guys come up
>>>>> with, and see if we can get this off the ground (Ba-dum-tsh).
>>>>> -Kyle
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On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:14:49 AM UTC-4, Kyle Yankanich wrote:
> Hey everyone, > Just curious to see who is interested in doing some high-altitude balloon > stuff. I personally have much of the equipment required, minus the balloon > and helium (because who really keeps that stuff laying around), and would > love to put something into near-space, and get some amazing photos out of > it as well. I'd like to see what kind of designs you guys come up with, and > see if we can get this off the ground (Ba-dum-tsh).
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Rich Hart <richhoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Kyle,
> I've done a ton of research on high-altitude ballooning. Lets talk
> next open-house!
> Rich
> On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:14:49 AM UTC-4, Kyle Yankanich wrote:
>> Hey everyone,
>> Just curious to see who is interested in doing some high-altitude
>> balloon stuff. I personally have much of the equipment required, minus the
>> balloon and helium (because who really keeps that stuff laying around), and
>> would love to put something into near-space, and get some amazing photos
>> out of it as well. I'd like to see what kind of designs you guys come up
>> with, and see if we can get this off the ground (Ba-dum-tsh).
>> -Kyle
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> Sounds good to me Rich. doing a quick stock, I think I have most of the
> stuff we need to actually do this, minus the expertise, help, and balloon.
> -- Kyle Yankanich
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Rich Hart <richhoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey Kyle,
>> I've done a ton of research on high-altitude ballooning. Lets talk
>> next open-house!
>> Rich
>> On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:14:49 AM UTC-4, Kyle Yankanich wrote:
>>> Hey everyone,
>>> Just curious to see who is interested in doing some high-altitude
>>> balloon stuff. I personally have much of the equipment required, minus the
>>> balloon and helium (because who really keeps that stuff laying around), and
>>> would love to put something into near-space, and get some amazing photos
>>> out of it as well. I'd like to see what kind of designs you guys come up
>>> with, and see if we can get this off the ground (Ba-dum-tsh).
>>> -Kyle
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Dave, it appears that legally speaking we can have a 6lb payload, with up
to two (2) separate payloads. That is to say, 12 total lbs of lift So, it's
totally possible to use it for a smaller payload, or with multiple
balloons, it all depends on how you guys want to take this. I'd personally
like to put as many cameras into space as is feasible for us. However, that
means more gas, larger balloons, more cost.
So, Dave, I guess if we can use that depends on if it's 8 foot inflated, or
an 8 foot burst. A balloon that bursts at ~8 ft, is about 4 feet inflated
on the ground, which is 10 oz of lift. I believe a 8ft balloon on the
ground can lift ~2lbs.
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Dave <dgsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How big a balloon do you think you'd need for what you have in mind? I
> think I have like an 8' diameter balloon.
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It sounds like the plan is to do a single launch, what are your thoughts on
multiple launches on the same day? The next thought is what could we
accomplish with multiple launches?
On Oct 29, 2012 4:04 PM, "Kyle Yankanich" <kyleyankan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dave, it appears that legally speaking we can have a 6lb payload, with up
> to two (2) separate payloads. That is to say, 12 total lbs of lift So, it's
> totally possible to use it for a smaller payload, or with multiple
> balloons, it all depends on how you guys want to take this. I'd personally
> like to put as many cameras into space as is feasible for us. However, that
> means more gas, larger balloons, more cost.
> So, Dave, I guess if we can use that depends on if it's 8 foot inflated,
> or an 8 foot burst. A balloon that bursts at ~8 ft, is about 4 feet
> inflated on the ground, which is 10 oz of lift. I believe a 8ft balloon on
> the ground can lift ~2lbs.
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Dave <dgsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> How big a balloon do you think you'd need for what you have in mind? I
>> think I have like an 8' diameter balloon.
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> Dave, it appears that legally speaking we can have a 6lb payload, with up
> to two (2) separate payloads. That is to say, 12 total lbs of lift So, it's
> totally possible to use it for a smaller payload, or with multiple
> balloons, it all depends on how you guys want to take this. I'd personally
> like to put as many cameras into space as is feasible for us. However, that
> means more gas, larger balloons, more cost.
> So, Dave, I guess if we can use that depends on if it's 8 foot inflated,
> or an 8 foot burst. A balloon that bursts at ~8 ft, is about 4 feet
> inflated on the ground, which is 10 oz of lift. I believe a 8ft balloon on
> the ground can lift ~2lbs.
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Dave <dgsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> How big a balloon do you think you'd need for what you have in mind? I
>> think I have like an 8' diameter balloon.
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I don't believe there is a limit on how many launches you can do, I've hear
dof clubs launching 5-10 balloons in a single day. Your problem then is
tracking them all, and having equipment for all of them. Would be better to
integrate as much as possible. Also, you can put multiple systems on one
"launch line". Here's the issue with doing too much: You need a bigger
balloon, and won't get the altitude you want. Take this balloon, which is
nice and hefty sized: http://amzn.com/B00513FWQI . It's 30 feet in
diameter, which means it can lift ~11 lbs. However, with 11 lbs of weight
on it, it will get an altitude of 29,000 meters - MAXIMUM. It will only
lift at 1.2meters/second, which make sit an almost 7 hour flight.
Same balloon, loaded with only 4 lbs? Will go to 34,000 meters.
Same balloon loaded with only 2 lbs? 36,000 meters.
I say we decide on a balloon / desired altitude first, and then try to
build to that / better than that instituting the sensors/devices we want as
we go.
I vouch for the 1200gram, 30ft diameter balloon, going approx 30km up. This
is doable, with a launch rate of 3meters/second, and 2.5 hour fly-time and
a 4000 gram (~8.8lbs) build envelope.. This will get us plenty of altitude,
plenty of equipment in the air, and a short enough flight-time to make it
possible that it lands close to launch, and can be tracked in real-time.
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:18 PM, andrew sooy <andrew11...@gmail.com> wrote:
> is there a limit on to how many launches you can do because i would like
> to to send up other sensors as well to take readings.
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Kyle Yankanich <kyleyankan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Dave, it appears that legally speaking we can have a 6lb payload, with up
>> to two (2) separate payloads. That is to say, 12 total lbs of lift So, it's
>> totally possible to use it for a smaller payload, or with multiple
>> balloons, it all depends on how you guys want to take this. I'd personally
>> like to put as many cameras into space as is feasible for us. However, that
>> means more gas, larger balloons, more cost.
>> So, Dave, I guess if we can use that depends on if it's 8 foot inflated,
>> or an 8 foot burst. A balloon that bursts at ~8 ft, is about 4 feet
>> inflated on the ground, which is 10 oz of lift. I believe a 8ft balloon on
>> the ground can lift ~2lbs.
>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Dave <dgsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> How big a balloon do you think you'd need for what you have in mind? I
>>> think I have like an 8' diameter balloon.
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> I don't believe there is a limit on how many launches you can do, I've hear dof clubs launching 5-10 balloons in a single day. Your problem then is tracking them all, and having equipment for all of them. Would be better to integrate as much as possible. Also, you can put multiple systems on one "launch line". Here's the issue with doing too much: You need a bigger balloon, and won't get the altitude you want. Take this balloon, which is nice and hefty sized: http://amzn.com/B00513FWQI . It's 30 feet in diameter, which means it can lift ~11 lbs. However, with 11 lbs of weight on it, it will get an altitude of 29,000 meters - MAXIMUM. It will only lift at 1.2meters/second, which make sit an almost 7 hour flight. > Same balloon, loaded with only 4 lbs? Will go to 34,000 meters.
> Same balloon loaded with only 2 lbs? 36,000 meters.
> I say we decide on a balloon / desired altitude first, and then try to build to that / better than that instituting the sensors/devices we want as we go.
> I vouch for the 1200gram, 30ft diameter balloon, going approx 30km up. This is doable, with a launch rate of 3meters/second, and 2.5 hour fly-time and a 4000 gram (~8.8lbs) build envelope.. This will get us plenty of altitude, plenty of equipment in the air, and a short enough flight-time to make it possible that it lands close to launch, and can be tracked in real-time.
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:18 PM, andrew sooy <andrew11...@gmail.com> wrote:
> is there a limit on to how many launches you can do because i would like to to send up other sensors as well to take readings.
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Kyle Yankanich <kyleyankan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dave, it appears that legally speaking we can have a 6lb payload, with up to two (2) separate payloads. That is to say, 12 total lbs of lift So, it's totally possible to use it for a smaller payload, or with multiple balloons, it all depends on how you guys want to take this. I'd personally like to put as many cameras into space as is feasible for us. However, that means more gas, larger balloons, more cost.
> So, Dave, I guess if we can use that depends on if it's 8 foot inflated, or an 8 foot burst. A balloon that bursts at ~8 ft, is about 4 feet inflated on the ground, which is 10 oz of lift. I believe a 8ft balloon on the ground can lift ~2lbs.
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Dave <dgsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How big a balloon do you think you'd need for what you have in mind? I think I have like an 8' diameter balloon.
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Why doesn't OHS have the talk broken down individually yet? On the link
Jordan sent, 47 minutes in. The talk before his is neat as well.
Cubesat is a neat project, and a neat way to see standardization for small
payloads. I looked at the Ardusat, and thought it was neat, but here's my
question with it - why do you need to do any on-board processing with it?
Why not just relay the data to the ground and process it here. It's not
like you can control anything on the Ardusat. Why would I want my code on
it, instead of just getting a raw feed of the data?
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Jordan Miller <jrdn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> you peeps will want to check out stephen murphy's talk from open hardware
> summit on open sourcing space payloads:
> http://summit.oshwa.org/open-sourcing-the-final-frontier/
> On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Kyle Yankanich wrote:
> > I don't believe there is a limit on how many launches you can do, I've
> hear dof clubs launching 5-10 balloons in a single day. Your problem then
> is tracking them all, and having equipment for all of them. Would be better
> to integrate as much as possible. Also, you can put multiple systems on one
> "launch line". Here's the issue with doing too much: You need a bigger
> balloon, and won't get the altitude you want. Take this balloon, which is
> nice and hefty sized: http://amzn.com/B00513FWQI . It's 30 feet in
> diameter, which means it can lift ~11 lbs. However, with 11 lbs of weight
> on it, it will get an altitude of 29,000 meters - MAXIMUM. It will only
> lift at 1.2meters/second, which make sit an almost 7 hour flight.
> > Same balloon, loaded with only 4 lbs? Will go to 34,000 meters.
> > Same balloon loaded with only 2 lbs? 36,000 meters.
> > I say we decide on a balloon / desired altitude first, and then try to
> build to that / better than that instituting the sensors/devices we want as
> we go.
> > I vouch for the 1200gram, 30ft diameter balloon, going approx 30km up.
> This is doable, with a launch rate of 3meters/second, and 2.5 hour fly-time
> and a 4000 gram (~8.8lbs) build envelope.. This will get us plenty of
> altitude, plenty of equipment in the air, and a short enough flight-time to
> make it possible that it lands close to launch, and can be tracked in
> real-time.
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:18 PM, andrew sooy <andrew11...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > is there a limit on to how many launches you can do because i would like
> to to send up other sensors as well to take readings.
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Kyle Yankanich <kyleyankan...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Dave, it appears that legally speaking we can have a 6lb payload, with
> up to two (2) separate payloads. That is to say, 12 total lbs of lift So,
> it's totally possible to use it for a smaller payload, or with multiple
> balloons, it all depends on how you guys want to take this. I'd personally
> like to put as many cameras into space as is feasible for us. However, that
> means more gas, larger balloons, more cost.
> > So, Dave, I guess if we can use that depends on if it's 8 foot inflated,
> or an 8 foot burst. A balloon that bursts at ~8 ft, is about 4 feet
> inflated on the ground, which is 10 oz of lift. I believe a 8ft balloon on
> the ground can lift ~2lbs.
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Dave <dgsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > How big a balloon do you think you'd need for what you have in mind? I
> think I have like an 8' diameter balloon.
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Hey Folks,
time to get the bandwagon rolling on a group project. I've asked around
and some people seem excited about the idea of doing a High Altitude
Balloon. It's a good way to get multiple people working on one project, not
to mention a field day with the launch and recovery of the payload. It
looks like Hive has tried to do something like this in the past:
http://wiki.hive76.org/Hackerspaces_In_Space Did we actually launch? How did we place in the contest?
Either way, I started a new Wiki page, just for us to squabble over the
idea of doing a launch, and ideas to implement. May I recommend for a first
launch going simple, and working our way up from there.
> Hey Folks,
> time to get the bandwagon rolling on a group project. I've asked around
> and some people seem excited about the idea of doing a High Altitude
> Balloon. It's a good way to get multiple people working on one project, not
> to mention a field day with the launch and recovery of the payload. It
> looks like Hive has tried to do something like this in the past:
> http://wiki.hive76.org/Hackerspaces_In_Space > Did we actually launch? How did we place in the contest?
> Either way, I started a new Wiki page, just for us to squabble over the
> idea of doing a launch, and ideas to implement. May I recommend for a first
> launch going simple, and working our way up from there.
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Martin Kreibe <mkre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I love this idea! I haven't come out much, but i hope to resolve that
> tonight...
> Martin Kreibe
> On Nov 7, 2012 11:22 AM, "Kyle Yankanich" <kyleyankan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey Folks,
>> time to get the bandwagon rolling on a group project. I've asked around
>> and some people seem excited about the idea of doing a High Altitude
>> Balloon. It's a good way to get multiple people working on one project, not
>> to mention a field day with the launch and recovery of the payload. It
>> looks like Hive has tried to do something like this in the past:
>> http://wiki.hive76.org/Hackerspaces_In_Space >> Did we actually launch? How did we place in the contest?
>> Either way, I started a new Wiki page, just for us to squabble over the
>> idea of doing a launch, and ideas to implement. May I recommend for a first
>> launch going simple, and working our way up from there.
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On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:18 PM, David Andraka <dyr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It sounds like the plan is to do a single launch, what are your thoughts
> on multiple launches on the same day? The next thought is what could we
> accomplish with multiple launches?
> On Oct 29, 2012 4:04 PM, "Kyle Yankanich" <kyleyankan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dave, it appears that legally speaking we can have a 6lb payload, with up
>> to two (2) separate payloads. That is to say, 12 total lbs of lift So, it's
>> totally possible to use it for a smaller payload, or with multiple
>> balloons, it all depends on how you guys want to take this. I'd personally
>> like to put as many cameras into space as is feasible for us. However, that
>> means more gas, larger balloons, more cost.
>> So, Dave, I guess if we can use that depends on if it's 8 foot inflated,
>> or an 8 foot burst. A balloon that bursts at ~8 ft, is about 4 feet
>> inflated on the ground, which is 10 oz of lift. I believe a 8ft balloon on
>> the ground can lift ~2lbs.
>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Dave <dgsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> How big a balloon do you think you'd need for what you have in mind? I
>>> think I have like an 8' diameter balloon.
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