anything is possible and i am a firm believer of ne reinventing the wheel.
what was on the main page is most of what i would be using.
check out http://gardenpool.org/
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That would be really cool if you guys got involved with OSE and got Hive's
> name involved with them.
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Rich Hart <richhoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Love the guys at OSE!
>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:28:23 AM UTC-4, J.Johnson wrote:
>>> Marcin over at Open Source Ecology has a Wiki of sorts started here<http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Aquaponics>.
>>> I'd hate to reinvent the wheel on this one as it seems like a lot of people
>>> have a good start on it.
>>> Having said that I haven't ever seen a non-proprietary control system.
>>> Orgs either go with no controls other than a few float switches and a pump
>>> or fully controlled with really expensive stuff. This leaves a lot of room
>>> for development.
>>> Can we start at the beginning and vet all ideas out?
>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> everything is still in the beginning stage we don't even have a design
>>>> 100% yet so anything can happen it is open already to members of hive.
>>>> i am trying to do it in sections and what i am looking at right now is
>>>> efficient water transfer from bottom to top and other ideas bounced around.
>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Sean McBeth <sean....@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> It works better to release it earlier: 1) you never know what help
>>>>> you'll get, 2) it motivates you to keep going, knowing that other people
>>>>> are watching what you're doing.
>>>>> Release early, release often.
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:16 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> but it would not be released till fully done with the project to
>>>>>> make sure most of the bugs are out.
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>> yes
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Joshua D. Johnson <
>>>>>>> objectsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> *I should be able to make it around 7., hoping for development of
>>>>>>>> simple, known tech first followed by complicated stuff. *
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> *You are thinking open source and fully documented!?*
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> *JOSH
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM, andrew11235 <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I will be at open house tonight and plan to play around with a few
>>>>>>>>> ideas for the project with a couple experiments and bouncing ideas off
>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>> concepts
>>>>>>>>> efficient water transfer up, efficient space utilization, osmosis
>>>>>>>>> **membranes/semi-osmotic **membranes, water Ph/Particle balancing,
>>>>>>>>> If anyone has ideas they would like to throw around that would be
>>>>>>>>> much appreciated this is a working project.
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
>>>>>>>>>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish
>>>>>>>>>> tilapia or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a
>>>>>>>>>> mixture of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics.
>>>>>>>>>> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter
>>>>>>>>>> is plant line which contains a bio-filter ( usually **crushed** porous rock
>>>>>>>>>> and an aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump
>>>>>>>>>> tank where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle.
>>>>>>>>>> There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow
>>>>>>>>>> and a "pump and dump" or flood.
>>>>>>>>>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope
>>>>>>>>>> there is interest.
>>>>>>>>>> interest that go with aquaponics
>>>>>>>>>> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc.
>>>>>>>>>> a cool site gardenpool.org
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:54 AM, andrew sooy <andrew11...@gmail.com> wrote:
> anything is possible and i am a firm believer of ne reinventing the wheel.
> what was on the main page is most of what i would be using.
> check out http://gardenpool.org/
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> That would be really cool if you guys got involved with OSE and got
>> Hive's name involved with them.
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Rich Hart <richhoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Love the guys at OSE!
>>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:28:23 AM UTC-4, J.Johnson wrote:
>>>> Marcin over at Open Source Ecology has a Wiki of sorts started here<http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Aquaponics>.
>>>> I'd hate to reinvent the wheel on this one as it seems like a lot of people
>>>> have a good start on it.
>>>> Having said that I haven't ever seen a non-proprietary control system.
>>>> Orgs either go with no controls other than a few float switches and a pump
>>>> or fully controlled with really expensive stuff. This leaves a lot of room
>>>> for development.
>>>> Can we start at the beginning and vet all ideas out?
>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> everything is still in the beginning stage we don't even have a design
>>>>> 100% yet so anything can happen it is open already to members of hive.
>>>>> i am trying to do it in sections and what i am looking at right now
>>>>> is efficient water transfer from bottom to top and other ideas bounced
>>>>> around.
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Sean McBeth <sean....@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> It works better to release it earlier: 1) you never know what help
>>>>>> you'll get, 2) it motivates you to keep going, knowing that other people
>>>>>> are watching what you're doing.
>>>>>> Release early, release often.
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:16 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>> but it would not be released till fully done with the project to
>>>>>>> make sure most of the bugs are out.
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>> yes
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Joshua D. Johnson <
>>>>>>>> objectsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> *I should be able to make it around 7., hoping for development of
>>>>>>>>> simple, known tech first followed by complicated stuff. *
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> *You are thinking open source and fully documented!?*
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> *JOSH
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM, andrew11235 <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I will be at open house tonight and plan to play around with a
>>>>>>>>>> few ideas for the project with a couple experiments and bouncing ideas off
>>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>>> concepts
>>>>>>>>>> efficient water transfer up, efficient space utilization, osmosis
>>>>>>>>>> **membranes/semi-osmotic **membranes, water
>>>>>>>>>> Ph/Particle balancing,
>>>>>>>>>> If anyone has ideas they would like to throw around that would be
>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated this is a working project.
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
>>>>>>>>>>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish
>>>>>>>>>>> tilapia or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a
>>>>>>>>>>> mixture of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics.
>>>>>>>>>>> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter
>>>>>>>>>>> is plant line which contains a bio-filter ( usually **crushed** porous rock
>>>>>>>>>>> and an aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump
>>>>>>>>>>> tank where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle.
>>>>>>>>>>> There are two different kinds of aquaponic
>>>>>>>>>>> systems continues flow and a "pump and dump" or flood.
>>>>>>>>>>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i
>>>>>>>>>>> hope there is interest.
>>>>>>>>>>> interest that go with aquaponics
>>>>>>>>>>> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc.
>>>>>>>>>>> a cool site gardenpool.org
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sounds like we will have a great think tank to hash things out and throw
ideas around tonight at open house.
me
Rich
Josh
Kyle
and maybe PJ and Sean if they want to.
concepts
efficient water transfer up, efficient space utilization, osmosis
membranes/semi-osmotic membranes, water Ph/Particle balancing,
energy conversion biofuel/gasification, Automation,
If anyone has ideas they would like to throw around that would be
much appreciated this is a working project.
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, that is *really* cool.
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:54 AM, andrew sooy <andrew11...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> anything is possible and i am a firm believer of ne reinventing
>> the wheel. what was on the main page is most of what i would be using.
>> check out http://gardenpool.org/
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> That would be really cool if you guys got involved with OSE and got
>>> Hive's name involved with them.
>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Rich Hart <richhoh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> Love the guys at OSE!
>>>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:28:23 AM UTC-4, J.Johnson wrote:
>>>>> Marcin over at Open Source Ecology has a Wiki of sorts started here<http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Aquaponics>.
>>>>> I'd hate to reinvent the wheel on this one as it seems like a lot of people
>>>>> have a good start on it.
>>>>> Having said that I haven't ever seen a non-proprietary control system.
>>>>> Orgs either go with no controls other than a few float switches and a pump
>>>>> or fully controlled with really expensive stuff. This leaves a lot of room
>>>>> for development.
>>>>> Can we start at the beginning and vet all ideas out?
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> everything is still in the beginning stage we don't even have a
>>>>>> design 100% yet so anything can happen it is open already to members of
>>>>>> hive.
>>>>>> i am trying to do it in sections and what i am looking at right now
>>>>>> is efficient water transfer from bottom to top and other ideas bounced
>>>>>> around.
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Sean McBeth <sean....@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>> It works better to release it earlier: 1) you never know what help
>>>>>>> you'll get, 2) it motivates you to keep going, knowing that other people
>>>>>>> are watching what you're doing.
>>>>>>> Release early, release often.
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:16 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>> but it would not be released till fully done with the project to
>>>>>>>> make sure most of the bugs are out.
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>> yes
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Joshua D. Johnson <
>>>>>>>>> objectsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> *I should be able to make it around 7., hoping for development
>>>>>>>>>> of simple, known tech first followed by complicated stuff. *
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>> *You are thinking open source and fully documented!?*
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>> *JOSH
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM, andrew11235 <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I will be at open house tonight and plan to play around with a
>>>>>>>>>>> few ideas for the project with a couple experiments and bouncing ideas off
>>>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>>>> concepts
>>>>>>>>>>> efficient water transfer up, efficient space
>>>>>>>>>>> utilization, osmosis **membranes/semi-osmotic **membranes,
>>>>>>>>>>> water Ph/Particle balancing,
>>>>>>>>>>> If anyone has ideas they would like to throw around that would
>>>>>>>>>>> be much appreciated this is a working project.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
>>>>>>>>>>>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish
>>>>>>>>>>>> tilapia or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a
>>>>>>>>>>>> mixture of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics.
>>>>>>>>>>>> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the
>>>>>>>>>>>> filter is plant line which contains a bio-filter ( usually **
>>>>>>>>>>>> crushed** porous rock and an aerator ) then the water flows
>>>>>>>>>>>> through the plants and in to a sump tank where Ph is balanced and
>>>>>>>>>>>> any excess particles settle.
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are two different kinds of aquaponic
>>>>>>>>>>>> systems continues flow and a "pump and dump" or flood.
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i
>>>>>>>>>>>> hope there is interest.
>>>>>>>>>>>> interest that go with aquaponics
>>>>>>>>>>>> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> a cool site gardenpool.org
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:31 AM, andrew sooy <andrew11...@gmail.com> wrote:
> sounds like we will have a great think tank to hash things out and throw
> ideas around tonight at open house.
> me
> Rich
> Josh
> Kyle
> and maybe PJ and Sean if they want to.
> concepts
> efficient water transfer up, efficient space utilization, osmosis
> membranes/semi-osmotic membranes, water Ph/Particle balancing,
> energy conversion biofuel/gasification, Automation,
> If anyone has ideas they would like to throw around that would be
> much appreciated this is a working project.
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Wow, that is *really* cool.
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:54 AM, andrew sooy <andrew11...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> anything is possible and i am a firm believer of ne reinventing
>>> the wheel. what was on the main page is most of what i would be using.
>>> check out http://gardenpool.org/
>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> That would be really cool if you guys got involved with OSE and got
>>>> Hive's name involved with them.
>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Rich Hart <richhoh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> Love the guys at OSE!
>>>>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:28:23 AM UTC-4, J.Johnson wrote:
>>>>>> Marcin over at Open Source Ecology has a Wiki of sorts started here<http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Aquaponics>.
>>>>>> I'd hate to reinvent the wheel on this one as it seems like a lot of people
>>>>>> have a good start on it.
>>>>>> Having said that I haven't ever seen a non-proprietary control
>>>>>> system. Orgs either go with no controls other than a few float switches and
>>>>>> a pump or fully controlled with really expensive stuff. This leaves a lot
>>>>>> of room for development.
>>>>>> Can we start at the beginning and vet all ideas out?
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>> everything is still in the beginning stage we don't even have a
>>>>>>> design 100% yet so anything can happen it is open already to members of
>>>>>>> hive.
>>>>>>> i am trying to do it in sections and what i am looking at right now
>>>>>>> is efficient water transfer from bottom to top and other ideas bounced
>>>>>>> around.
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Sean McBeth <sean....@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>> It works better to release it earlier: 1) you never know what help
>>>>>>>> you'll get, 2) it motivates you to keep going, knowing that other people
>>>>>>>> are watching what you're doing.
>>>>>>>> Release early, release often.
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:16 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>> but it would not be released till fully done with the project to
>>>>>>>>> make sure most of the bugs are out.
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> yes
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Joshua D. Johnson <
>>>>>>>>>> objectsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> *I should be able to make it around 7., hoping for development
>>>>>>>>>>> of simple, known tech first followed by complicated stuff. *
>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>> *You are thinking open source and fully documented!?*
>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>> *JOSH
>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM, andrew11235 <andre...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be at open house tonight and plan to play around with a
>>>>>>>>>>>> few ideas for the project with a couple experiments and bouncing ideas off
>>>>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>>>>> concepts
>>>>>>>>>>>> efficient water transfer up, efficient space
>>>>>>>>>>>> utilization, osmosis **membranes/semi-osmotic **membranes,
>>>>>>>>>>>> water Ph/Particle balancing,
>>>>>>>>>>>> If anyone has ideas they would like to throw around that would
>>>>>>>>>>>> be much appreciated this is a working project.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fish tilapia or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> soil usually a mixture of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aquaponics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> filter is plant line which contains a bio-filter ( usually **
>>>>>>>>>>>>> crushed** porous rock and an aerator ) then the water flows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> through the plants and in to a sump tank where Ph is balanced and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any excess particles settle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are two different kinds of aquaponic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems continues flow and a "pump and dump" or flood.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope there is interest.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest that go with aquaponics
>>>>>>>>>>>>> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a cool site gardenpool.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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Yes i have that somewhat in my head but it would be easier to show on a white board tonight at hive.
some basic goals i would like to get just as a small jist. efficient, cheap as we can, automated, fuel conversion/energy, sustainability as in it is its own sustainable eco system, and has more to give for sustaining people.
On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:34:13 AM UTC-4, Kyle Yankanich wrote:
> Andrew, I typed this e-mail out then hated myself for sounding like a > corporate whore.... I'm sorry.
> Can you prep a quick 5-minute intro to what the goals of doing this are, > and any firm design basis you've already established?
> -- Kyle Yankanich
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:31 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote:
>> sounds like we will have a great think tank to hash things out and throw >> ideas around tonight at open house. >> me >> Rich >> Josh >> Kyle >> and maybe PJ and Sean if they want to.
>> concepts >> efficient water transfer up, efficient space utilization, osmosis >> membranes/semi-osmotic membranes, water Ph/Particle balancing, >> energy conversion biofuel/gasification, Automation,
>> If anyone has ideas they would like to throw around that would be >> much appreciated this is a working project.
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Sean McBeth <sean....@gmail.com<javascript:> >> > wrote:
>>> Wow, that is *really* cool.
>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:54 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com<javascript:> >>> > wrote:
>>>> anything is possible and i am a firm believer of ne reinventing >>>> the wheel. what was on the main page is most of what i would be using. >>>> check out http://gardenpool.org/
>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Sean McBeth <sean....@gmail.com<javascript:> >>>> > wrote:
>>>>> That would be really cool if you guys got involved with OSE and got >>>>> Hive's name involved with them.
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Rich Hart <richh...@gmail.com<javascript:> >>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> Love the guys at OSE!
>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:28:23 AM UTC-4, J.Johnson wrote:
>>>>>>> Marcin over at Open Source Ecology has a Wiki of sorts started here<http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Aquaponics>. >>>>>>> I'd hate to reinvent the wheel on this one as it seems like a lot of people >>>>>>> have a good start on it. >>>>>>> Having said that I haven't ever seen a non-proprietary control >>>>>>> system. Orgs either go with no controls other than a few float switches and >>>>>>> a pump or fully controlled with really expensive stuff. This leaves a lot >>>>>>> of room for development.
>>>>>>> Can we start at the beginning and vet all ideas out?
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>> everything is still in the beginning stage we don't even have a >>>>>>>> design 100% yet so anything can happen it is open already to members of >>>>>>>> hive. >>>>>>>> i am trying to do it in sections and what i am looking at right >>>>>>>> now is efficient water transfer from bottom to top and other ideas bounced >>>>>>>> around.
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Sean McBeth <sean....@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>> It works better to release it earlier: 1) you never know what >>>>>>>>> help you'll get, 2) it motivates you to keep going, knowing that other >>>>>>>>> people are watching what you're doing.
>>>>>>>>> Release early, release often.
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:16 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> but it would not be released till fully done with the project to >>>>>>>>>> make sure most of the bugs are out.
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> yes
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Joshua D. Johnson < >>>>>>>>>>> objectsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> *I should be able to make it around 7., hoping for development >>>>>>>>>>>> of simple, known tech first followed by complicated stuff. * >>>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>>> *You are thinking open source and fully documented!?* >>>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>>> *JOSH >>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM, andrew11235 < >>>>>>>>>>>> andre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be at open house tonight and plan to play around with a >>>>>>>>>>>>> few ideas for the project with a couple experiments and bouncing ideas off >>>>>>>>>>>>> people. >>>>>>>>>>>>> concepts >>>>>>>>>>>>> efficient water transfer up, efficient space >>>>>>>>>>>>> utilization, osmosis **membranes/semi-osmotic **membranes, >>>>>>>>>>>>> water Ph/Particle balancing, >>>>>>>>>>>>> If anyone has ideas they would like to throw around that would >>>>>>>>>>>>> be much appreciated this is a working project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic >>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fish tilapia or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> soil usually a mixture of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aquaponics. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> filter is plant line which contains a bio-filter ( usually ** >>>>>>>>>>>>>> crushed** porous rock and an aerator ) then the water flows >>>>>>>>>>>>>> through the plants and in to a sump tank where Ph is balanced and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any excess particles settle. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are two different kinds of aquaponic >>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems continues flow and a "pump and dump" or flood.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope there is interest. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest that go with aquaponics >>>>>>>>>>>>>> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a cool site gardenpool.org
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Last night we had a very good discussion on aquaponics. I showed what my design probably will be like and we discussed water transfer from the bottom to top. We went over limitation of vacuum pressure, pump pressure, and we discussed using air bubbles to move the water up. The vacuum and pump i will test with as well as using air bubbles which i believe will be the most promising method of moving water up.
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish tilapia or > others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a mixture of > water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics. > A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter is plant > line which contains a bio-filter ( usually crushed porous rock and an > aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump tank > where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle. > There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow and a > "pump and dump" or flood.
> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope there is > interest. > interest that go with aquaponics > automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc. > a cool site gardenpool.org
Andrew,
It was good meeting you and the discussion was interesting.
I can't see any reason to try and draw water via capillary
action rather than directly from the fish tank and letting gravity water
the plants. I haven't seen anyone do this either.
Look into the Growing power system and vertical towers
from Bright Agrotech. My hope is to build something tried and true but
contribute tech along the lines of Ph/mineral/O2/flow/level/chems
monitoring.
Thanks for getting this going!
Josh
On Oct 11, 2012 2:51 PM, "andrew11235" <andrew11...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Last night we had a very good discussion on aquaponics.
> I showed what my design probably will be like and we discussed water
> transfer from the bottom to top.
> We went over limitation of vacuum pressure, pump pressure, and
> we discussed using air bubbles to move the water up.
> The vacuum and pump i will test with as well as using air bubbles which
> i believe will be the most promising method of moving water up.
> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish tilapia
>> or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a mixture
>> of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics.
>> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter is plant
>> line which contains a bio-filter ( usually **crushed porous rock and an
>> aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump tank
>> where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle.
>> There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow and a
>> "pump and dump" or flood.
>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope there
>> is interest.
>> interest that go with aquaponics
>> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc.
>> a cool site gardenpool.org
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On Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:51:12 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
> Last night we had a very good discussion on aquaponics. > I showed what my design probably will be like and we discussed water > transfer from the bottom to top. > We went over limitation of vacuum pressure, pump pressure, and > we discussed using air bubbles to move the water up. > The vacuum and pump i will test with as well as using air bubbles which > i believe will be the most promising method of moving water up.
> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish tilapia >> or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a mixture >> of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics. >> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter is plant >> line which contains a bio-filter ( usually crushed porous rock and an >> aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump tank >> where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle. >> There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow and a >> "pump and dump" or flood.
>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope there >> is interest. >> interest that go with aquaponics >> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc. >> a cool site gardenpool.org
The capillary action was just to bring it up just an inch to make the water
just sit at the edge to make it move easier from a pump.
As of right now i am still sticking with the capillary bowl because it give
more surface area for plant mater to grow but i will most likely use an air
pump system which i posted about just a sec ago.
At each step up it will have the airlift so it is going up in steps and one
pump can do that and more so it seems like a good idea "in my opinion" to
maximize space and that is one of the thing i really want to do get the
most out of the area you have the more plants the better.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Joshua D. Johnson <
objectsunlimi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Andrew,
> It was good meeting you and the discussion was interesting.
> I can't see any reason to try and draw water via capillary
> action rather than directly from the fish tank and letting gravity water
> the plants. I haven't seen anyone do this either.
> Look into the Growing power system and vertical towers
> from Bright Agrotech. My hope is to build something tried and true but
> contribute tech along the lines of Ph/mineral/O2/flow/level/chems
> monitoring.
> Thanks for getting this going!
> Josh
> On Oct 11, 2012 2:51 PM, "andrew11235" <andrew11...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Last night we had a very good discussion on aquaponics.
>> I showed what my design probably will be like and we discussed water
>> transfer from the bottom to top.
>> We went over limitation of vacuum pressure, pump pressure, and
>> we discussed using air bubbles to move the water up.
>> The vacuum and pump i will test with as well as using air bubbles which
>> i believe will be the most promising method of moving water up.
>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
>>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
>>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish tilapia
>>> or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a mixture
>>> of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics.
>>> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter is
>>> plant line which contains a bio-filter ( usually **crushed porous rock
>>> and an aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump
>>> tank where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle.
>>> There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow and a
>>> "pump and dump" or flood.
>>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope there
>>> is interest.
>>> interest that go with aquaponics
>>> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc.
>>> a cool site gardenpool.org
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On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish tilapia or > others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a mixture of > water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics. > A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter is plant > line which contains a bio-filter ( usually crushed porous rock and an > aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump tank > where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle. > There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow and a > "pump and dump" or flood.
> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope there is > interest. > interest that go with aquaponics > automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc. > a cool site gardenpool.org
The best part about trying new things is that you always learn something,
regardless of whether or not it works as you expect. Definitely go with
your idea and see what happens. If it doesn't work, oh well, you learned
not to do that again :)
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:24 PM, andrew sooy <andrew11...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The capillary action was just to bring it up just an inch to make the
> water just sit at the edge to make it move easier from a pump.
> As of right now i am still sticking with the capillary bowl because it
> give more surface area for plant mater to grow but i will most likely use
> an air pump system which i posted about just a sec ago.
> At each step up it will have the airlift so it is going up in steps and
> one pump can do that and more so it seems like a good idea "in my opinion"
> to maximize space and that is one of the thing i really want to do get the
> most out of the area you have the more plants the better.
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Joshua D. Johnson <
> objectsunlimi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Andrew,
>> It was good meeting you and the discussion was
>> interesting.
>> I can't see any reason to try and draw water via
>> capillary action rather than directly from the fish tank and letting
>> gravity water the plants. I haven't seen anyone do this either.
>> Look into the Growing power system and vertical towers
>> from Bright Agrotech. My hope is to build something tried and true but
>> contribute tech along the lines of Ph/mineral/O2/flow/level/chems
>> monitoring.
>> Thanks for getting this going!
>> Josh
>> On Oct 11, 2012 2:51 PM, "andrew11235" <andrew11...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Last night we had a very good discussion on aquaponics.
>>> I showed what my design probably will be like and we discussed water
>>> transfer from the bottom to top.
>>> We went over limitation of vacuum pressure, pump pressure, and
>>> we discussed using air bubbles to move the water up.
>>> The vacuum and pump i will test with as well as using air bubbles which
>>> i believe will be the most promising method of moving water up.
>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
>>>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
>>>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish tilapia
>>>> or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a mixture
>>>> of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics.
>>>> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter is
>>>> plant line which contains a bio-filter ( usually **crushed porous rock
>>>> and an aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump
>>>> tank where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle.
>>>> There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow and a
>>>> "pump and dump" or flood.
>>>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope there
>>>> is interest.
>>>> interest that go with aquaponics
>>>> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc.
>>>> a cool site gardenpool.org
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Which i am going to do i probably will be testing a few things saturday if rich or kyle wanted to help i will probably be down around like 4-5ish and be there like all night.
On Thursday, October 11, 2012 3:27:05 PM UTC-4, sean.mcbeth wrote:
> The best part about trying new things is that you always learn something, > regardless of whether or not it works as you expect. Definitely go with > your idea and see what happens. If it doesn't work, oh well, you learned > not to do that again :)
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:24 PM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote:
>> The capillary action was just to bring it up just an inch to make the >> water just sit at the edge to make it move easier from a pump. >> As of right now i am still sticking with the capillary bowl because it >> give more surface area for plant mater to grow but i will most likely use >> an air pump system which i posted about just a sec ago. >> At each step up it will have the airlift so it is going up in steps and >> one pump can do that and more so it seems like a good idea "in my opinion" >> to maximize space and that is one of the thing i really want to do get the >> most out of the area you have the more plants the better.
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Joshua D. Johnson <objectsu...@gmail.com<javascript:> >> > wrote:
>>> Andrew, >>> It was good meeting you and the discussion was >>> interesting. >>> I can't see any reason to try and draw water via >>> capillary action rather than directly from the fish tank and letting >>> gravity water the plants. I haven't seen anyone do this either. >>> Look into the Growing power system and vertical towers >>> from Bright Agrotech. My hope is to build something tried and true but >>> contribute tech along the lines of Ph/mineral/O2/flow/level/chems >>> monitoring.
>>> Thanks for getting this going!
>>> Josh >>> On Oct 11, 2012 2:51 PM, "andrew11235" <andre...@gmail.com <javascript:>> >>> wrote:
>>>> Last night we had a very good discussion on aquaponics. >>>> I showed what my design probably will be like and we discussed water >>>> transfer from the bottom to top. >>>> We went over limitation of vacuum pressure, pump pressure, and >>>> we discussed using air bubbles to move the water up. >>>> The vacuum and pump i will test with as well as using air bubbles which >>>> i believe will be the most promising method of moving water up.
>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
>>>>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
>>>>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish >>>>> tilapia or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a >>>>> mixture of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics. >>>>> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter is >>>>> plant line which contains a bio-filter ( usually **crushed porous rock >>>>> and an aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump >>>>> tank where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle. >>>>> There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow and >>>>> a "pump and dump" or flood.
>>>>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope >>>>> there is interest. >>>>> interest that go with aquaponics >>>>> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc. >>>>> a cool site gardenpool.org
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On Thursday, October 11, 2012 3:55:25 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
> Which i am going to do i probably will be testing a few things saturday if > rich or kyle wanted to help i will probably be down around like 4-5ish and > be there like all night.
> On Thursday, October 11, 2012 3:27:05 PM UTC-4, sean.mcbeth wrote:
>> The best part about trying new things is that you always learn something, >> regardless of whether or not it works as you expect. Definitely go with >> your idea and see what happens. If it doesn't work, oh well, you learned >> not to do that again :)
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:24 PM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The capillary action was just to bring it up just an inch to make the >>> water just sit at the edge to make it move easier from a pump. >>> As of right now i am still sticking with the capillary bowl because it >>> give more surface area for plant mater to grow but i will most likely use >>> an air pump system which i posted about just a sec ago. >>> At each step up it will have the airlift so it is going up in steps and >>> one pump can do that and more so it seems like a good idea "in my opinion" >>> to maximize space and that is one of the thing i really want to do get the >>> most out of the area you have the more plants the better.
>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Joshua D. Johnson < >>> objectsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Andrew, >>>> It was good meeting you and the discussion was >>>> interesting. >>>> I can't see any reason to try and draw water via >>>> capillary action rather than directly from the fish tank and letting >>>> gravity water the plants. I haven't seen anyone do this either. >>>> Look into the Growing power system and vertical towers >>>> from Bright Agrotech. My hope is to build something tried and true but >>>> contribute tech along the lines of Ph/mineral/O2/flow/level/chems >>>> monitoring.
>>>> Thanks for getting this going!
>>>> Josh >>>> On Oct 11, 2012 2:51 PM, "andrew11235" <andre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Last night we had a very good discussion on aquaponics. >>>>> I showed what my design probably will be like and we discussed water >>>>> transfer from the bottom to top. >>>>> We went over limitation of vacuum pressure, pump pressure, and >>>>> we discussed using air bubbles to move the water up. >>>>> The vacuum and pump i will test with as well as using air bubbles >>>>> which i believe will be the most promising method of moving water up.
>>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
>>>>>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
>>>>>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish >>>>>> tilapia or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a >>>>>> mixture of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics. >>>>>> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter is >>>>>> plant line which contains a bio-filter ( usually **crushed porous rock >>>>>> and an aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump >>>>>> tank where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle. >>>>>> There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow and >>>>>> a "pump and dump" or flood.
>>>>>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope >>>>>> there is interest. >>>>>> interest that go with aquaponics >>>>>> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc. >>>>>> a cool site gardenpool.org
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> perfect. I was considering stopping by this weekend anyway. I try stopping
> by saturday
> On Thursday, October 11, 2012 3:55:25 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
>> Which i am going to do i probably will be testing a few things saturday
>> if rich or kyle wanted to help i will probably be down around like 4-5ish
>> and be there like all night.
>> On Thursday, October 11, 2012 3:27:05 PM UTC-4, sean.mcbeth wrote:
>>> The best part about trying new things is that you always learn
>>> something, regardless of whether or not it works as you expect. Definitely
>>> go with your idea and see what happens. If it doesn't work, oh well, you
>>> learned not to do that again :)
>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:24 PM, andrew sooy <andre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The capillary action was just to bring it up just an inch to make the
>>>> water just sit at the edge to make it move easier from a pump.
>>>> As of right now i am still sticking with the capillary bowl because it
>>>> give more surface area for plant mater to grow but i will most likely use
>>>> an air pump system which i posted about just a sec ago.
>>>> At each step up it will have the airlift so it is going up in steps and
>>>> one pump can do that and more so it seems like a good idea "in my opinion"
>>>> to maximize space and that is one of the thing i really want to do get the
>>>> most out of the area you have the more plants the better.
>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Joshua D. Johnson <
>>>> objectsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Andrew,
>>>>> It was good meeting you and the discussion was
>>>>> interesting.
>>>>> I can't see any reason to try and draw water via
>>>>> capillary action rather than directly from the fish tank and letting
>>>>> gravity water the plants. I haven't seen anyone do this either.
>>>>> Look into the Growing power system and vertical
>>>>> towers from Bright Agrotech. My hope is to build something tried and true
>>>>> but contribute tech along the lines of Ph/mineral/O2/flow/level/chems
>>>>> monitoring.
>>>>> Thanks for getting this going!
>>>>> Josh
>>>>> On Oct 11, 2012 2:51 PM, "andrew11235" <andre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Last night we had a very good discussion on aquaponics.
>>>>>> I showed what my design probably will be like and we discussed water
>>>>>> transfer from the bottom to top.
>>>>>> We went over limitation of vacuum pressure, pump pressure, and
>>>>>> we discussed using air bubbles to move the water up.
>>>>>> The vacuum and pump i will test with as well as using air bubbles
>>>>>> which i believe will be the most promising method of moving water up.
>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
>>>>>>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
>>>>>>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish
>>>>>>> tilapia or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a
>>>>>>> mixture of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics.
>>>>>>> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter is
>>>>>>> plant line which contains a bio-filter ( usually **crushed** porous rock
>>>>>>> and an aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump
>>>>>>> tank where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle.
>>>>>>> There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow
>>>>>>> and a "pump and dump" or flood.
>>>>>>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope
>>>>>>> there is interest.
>>>>>>> interest that go with aquaponics
>>>>>>> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc.
>>>>>>> a cool site gardenpool.org
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I Tested a small setup for moving the water up. It did a proof of concept barley but i need to change a few things with it maybe use more of the 2 liter bottle to give more depth and i will need a way bigger pump i'm looking at a 100 pound pump for like 140 which can aerate 10,000 gallons of water, the one i have right now can do 60 :) which was $20. Also i am going to create a scad file to print that will hold the 2 liter bottle and a hose so that it can go to the next stage. I want to try to make like 3 drawing so it can all snap together in this stair system to go up.
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish tilapia or > others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a mixture of > water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics. > A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter is plant > line which contains a bio-filter ( usually crushed porous rock and an > aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump tank > where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle. > There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow and a > "pump and dump" or flood.
> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope there is > interest. > interest that go with aquaponics > automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc. > a cool site gardenpool.org
> I Tested a small setup for moving the water up. It did a proof of concept
> barley but i need to change a few things with it maybe use more of the
> 2 liter bottle to give more depth and i will need a
> way bigger pump i'm looking at a 100 pound pump for like 140 which
> can aerate 10,000 gallons of water, the one i have right now can do 60 :)
> which was $20.
> Also i am going to create a scad file to print that will hold the 2 liter
> bottle and a hose so that it can go to the next stage. I want to try to
> make like 3 drawing so it can all snap together in this stair system to go
> up.
> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish tilapia
>> or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a mixture
>> of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics.
>> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter is plant
>> line which contains a bio-filter ( usually **crushed porous rock and an
>> aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump tank
>> where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle.
>> There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow and a
>> "pump and dump" or flood.
>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope there
>> is interest.
>> interest that go with aquaponics
>> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc.
>> a cool site gardenpool.org
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> BTW Wick transfer will also cause you to lose nutrients in water. > On Oct 15, 2012 1:47 PM, "andrew11235" <andre...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote:
>> I Tested a small setup for moving the water up. It did a proof of concept >> barley but i need to change a few things with it maybe use more of the >> 2 liter bottle to give more depth and i will need a >> way bigger pump i'm looking at a 100 pound pump for like 140 which >> can aerate 10,000 gallons of water, the one i have right now can do 60 :) >> which was $20. >> Also i am going to create a scad file to print that will hold the 2 liter >> bottle and a hose so that it can go to the next stage. I want to try to >> make like 3 drawing so it can all snap together in this stair system to go >> up.
>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
>>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
>>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish tilapia >>> or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a mixture >>> of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics. >>> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter is >>> plant line which contains a bio-filter ( usually **crushed porous rock >>> and an aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump >>> tank where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle. >>> There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow and a >>> "pump and dump" or flood.
>>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope there >>> is interest. >>> interest that go with aquaponics >>> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc. >>> a cool site gardenpool.org
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Those meters and rough setup might work well for the water based hydraulics
circuit as well.
On Oct 17, 2012 9:20 AM, "Rich Hart" <richhoh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> BTW Wick transfer will also cause you to lose nutrients in water.
>> On Oct 15, 2012 1:47 PM, "andrew11235" <andre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I Tested a small setup for moving the water up. It did a proof of
>>> concept barley but i need to change a few things with it maybe use more of
>>> the 2 liter bottle to give more depth and i will need a
>>> way bigger pump i'm looking at a 100 pound pump for like 140 which
>>> can aerate 10,000 gallons of water, the one i have right now can do 60 :)
>>> which was $20.
>>> Also i am going to create a scad file to print that will hold the 2
>>> liter bottle and a hose so that it can go to the next stage. I want to try
>>> to make like 3 drawing so it can all snap together in this stair system to
>>> go up.
>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:02:45 PM UTC-4, andrew11235 wrote:
>>>> I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?
>>>> What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish tilapia
>>>> or others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a mixture
>>>> of water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics.
>>>> A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter is
>>>> plant line which contains a bio-filter ( usually **crushed** porous rock
>>>> and an aerator ) then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump
>>>> tank where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle.
>>>> There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow and a
>>>> "pump and dump" or flood.
>>>> There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope there
>>>> is interest.
>>>> interest that go with aquaponics
>>>> automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc.
>>>> a cool site gardenpool.org
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