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andrew11235  
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From: andrew11235 <andrew11...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:02:36 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 19 2012 3:02 pm
Subject: Aquaponics

I was wondering if there was any interest in Aquaponic systems?

What is an aquaponic system it is aquaculturing ( breeding fish tilapia or
others ) and hydroponics ( growing plants with no soil usually a mixture of
water and nutrients ) combining the two you get aquaponics.
A normal fish tank has a filter in a aquaponic system the filter is plant
line which contains a bio-filter ( usually crushed porous rock and an
aerator )  then the water flows through the plants and in to a sump tank
where Ph is balanced and any excess particles settle.
There are two different kinds of aquaponic systems continues flow and a
"pump and dump" or flood.

There is allot more that can be expanded on aquaponics and i hope there is
interest.
interest that go with aquaponics
 automation - harvesting, natural Ph balancing, bio fuel etc.
a cool site gardenpool.org

  aquaponic.pdf
1714K Download

  BYAP_Magazine_Issue1.pdf
7095K Download

  IBCofAquaponics.pdf
18735K Download

  Simplified-Manual.pdf
1538K Download

 
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andrew11235  
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From: andrew11235 <andrew11...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:19:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 19 2012 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: Aquaponics

Sorry for the double post i didn't mean to create 2 threads it crashed on
me the first time so i split up the pdf's and then there was 2.


 
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andrew sooy  
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From: andrew sooy <andrew11...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:35:26 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

There is one pdf that the discussion board did not send out because i think
it saw it was a 13Mb pdf.


 
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From: Adam Kaufman <unmotiva...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:38:34 -0400
Local: Wed, Sep 19 2012 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

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Joshua D. Johnson  
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From: "Joshua D. Johnson" <objectsunlimi...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:42:29 -0400
Local: Wed, Sep 19 2012 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

*Andrew,*
*        How does this pertain to Hive 76? I'm really interested but would
hate to see it turn into a gardening club.*
*        I've taken Aquaponics and associated workshops at Growing Power in
Milwaukee as well as visited Aquavita Farms in Syracuse, NY. Growing Power
treats it as more of an art, Aquavita as a strict Science. Neither of them
are automated to the degree they could be nor do they have any
communication or monitoring functionality other than what is commonly and
cheaply available through Hydroponics suppliers.*
*        Do you have any Aquaponics experience? I'm interested in it and
have collected some material to get a small (~1000 fish) project going. I
know others in Philly with similar interests.*
*        *
*
*
*Best,*
*
*
*JOSH
*


 
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Rich Hart  
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From: Rich Hart <richhoh...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:32:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 19 2012 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

Hi Josh,

To answer your criticism: I too think that aquaponics is very imprecise but
that is exactly the type of problem that can be solved at Hive.  In the
other aquaponics post I talk a little about microfluidics and how it might
be a low cost way to tackle the problem of monitoring the chemicals in the
system. There are other possible solutions but I think that Hive76 could be
a perfect place to solve them.


 
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Joshua D. Johnson  
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From: "Joshua D. Johnson" <objectsunlimi...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:48:09 -0400
Local: Wed, Sep 19 2012 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

Hey, no criticism here. Just trying to see where you are at. I don't think
anyone has it figured out yet.

I'd be interested to see a list of related projects to see where I can
help/collaborate. My background is in mechanical devices and physical
prototyping, nothing compared to the geniuses at the Hive.

Josh
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Sean McBeth  
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From: Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:59:14 -0400
Local: Wed, Sep 19 2012 5:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

A core-value shared by all of the members at Hive* is that the space is for
whatever the members deem fit. While there is an enthusiasm for electronics
shared between many of the members, and it will most likely remain that way
for a while, that doesn't mean it is set in stone. It's just the most
visible thing that some members happen to be doing**.

Hive is nothing without the members; I cannot stress that enough. I've seen
this from a lot of people: an assignment of values to the place, separate
from the people who are here. Hive is this room. It does not exist as a
thing in the world outside. What some people have called The Hive is just a
bunch of people in a room. It's just where we plopped our junk*** for the
time being. We're just people who decided to create rather than consume. A
person will fit in here better by making the worst thing from a beginner's
kit bought at Radio Shack than by buying The Best One Evar. If a person has
never even folded a paper airplane in their life, let them come here and we
will show them.

It is really important to avoid treating this place as sacred. Sanctifying
this dirty, ugly, noisy, somewhat-inconveniently-located room makes people
become conservative in their use of it. It sets the membership apart from
the rest of the community, making us unapproachable, unobtainable,
unjoinable. It prevents people from being brave and taking risks, which is
the only way to learn. Keeping this place dynamic and available to people
of all skills levels is far more important than keeping this place an
electronics club.

* Hence why our membership confirmation process requires a unanimous vote.

** One member uses it to create custom jewelry. Another member experimented
with growing organic fibers for making renewable paper. One member recorded
a sound track to a video game here. Another prototyped and focus-grouped a
board game. I personally used this place for 6 months as an office, writing
word processor documents and constructing business reports. Aquaponics or
gardening absolutely fits into that.

*** And most of it is junk. You don't have to wait until you have the best
stuff to start making. Just because something isn't the best doesn't make
it useless.


 
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DonTrackbiker  
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From: DonTrackbiker <d...@donklipstein.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:04:11 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Sep 20 2012 12:04 am
Subject: Re: Aquaponics

   My thoughts, especially in an area where I may be able to contribute to
such a project in the Hive:

  Lighting, whether LED or fluorescent or whatever, for aquaponics.

  Maybe along lines of what I say in:
http://donklipstein.com/photosyn.html
http://donklipstein.com/ledfaq.html#gr

  Maybe next Wednesday will be a long night for me?

 - Don Klipstein (d...@donklipstein.com)


 
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andrew sooy  
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From: andrew sooy <andrew11...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 15:22:36 -0400
Local: Thurs, Sep 20 2012 3:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

We will eventually get in to growing plants and lighting.
First thing me and rich discussed is efficient water transfer system
from bottom to the top.

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Rich Hart  
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From: Rich Hart <richhoh...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 07:36:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Sep 28 2012 10:36 am
Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

Hey Andrew,

Missed you at Hive last Weds. I brought a friend with me to Hive who was
also interested in Aquaponics and I think we have a kickass system in the
works.  Will be there next weds?

Rich


 
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Joshua D. Johnson  
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From: "Joshua D. Johnson" <objectsunlimi...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:43:59 -0400
Local: Fri, Sep 28 2012 10:43 am
Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

I'll show if Aquaponics is discussed.
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andrew sooy  
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From: andrew sooy <andrew11...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 21:31:38 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

Yes I will be there weds. This weds I flew out to Louisville ky for
derbycon it has been great so far I have learned a lot.
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andrew sooy  
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From: andrew sooy <andrew11...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 15:01:46 -0400
Local: Wed, Oct 3 2012 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

Rich i will be there tonight at open house and i have some stuff to
experiment with on for efficient upwards flow.
do you know if there are any 3d printable water pumps if not we can make
one.


 
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From: andrew11235 <andrew11...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 06:59:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 9:59 am
Subject: Re: Aquaponics

I will be at open house tonight and plan to play around with a few ideas
for the project with a couple experiments and bouncing ideas off people.
concepts
efficient water transfer up, efficient space
utilization, osmosis membranes/semi-osmotic membranes, water
Ph/Particle balancing,
If anyone has ideas they would like to throw around that would be
much appreciated this is a working project.


 
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Joshua D. Johnson  
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From: "Joshua D. Johnson" <objectsunlimi...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:11:44 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

*I should be able to make it around 7., hoping for development of simple,
known tech first followed by complicated stuff. *
*
*
*You are thinking open source and fully documented!?*
*
*
*JOSH
*


 
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:15:26 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

yes

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andrew sooy  
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From: andrew sooy <andrew11...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:16:08 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

but it would not be released till fully done with the project to
make sure most of the bugs are out.


 
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Sean McBeth  
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From: Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:17:18 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

It works better to release it earlier: 1) you never know what help you'll
get, 2) it motivates you to keep going, knowing that other people are
watching what you're doing.

Release early, release often.


 
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From: Rich Hart <richhoh...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:18:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 10:18 am
Subject: Re: Aquaponics

Hey andrew.  Let me know if you need anything from Home Depot for tonight
and post it in the new thread I created.


 
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andrew sooy  
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From: andrew sooy <andrew11...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:20:39 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

everything is still in the beginning stage we don't even have a design 100%
yet so anything can happen it is open already to members of hive.
i am trying to do it in sections and what i am looking at right now is
efficient water transfer from bottom to top and other ideas bounced around.


 
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Joshua D. Johnson  
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From: "Joshua D. Johnson" <objectsunlimi...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:28:22 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

Marcin over at Open Source Ecology has a Wiki of sorts started
here<http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Aquaponics>.
I'd hate to reinvent the wheel on this one as it seems like a lot of people
have a good start on it.
Having said that I haven't ever seen a non-proprietary control system. Orgs
either go with no controls other than a few float switches and a pump or
fully controlled with really expensive stuff. This leaves a lot of room for
development.

Can we start at the beginning and vet all ideas out?


 
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Rich Hart  
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From: Rich Hart <richhoh...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:37:59 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

Love the guys at OSE!


 
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 10:51 am
From: Sean McBeth <sean.mcb...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:50:53 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

That would be really cool if you guys got involved with OSE and got Hive's
name involved with them.


 
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From: PJ Santoro <paint...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:53:15 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Hive 76 Discussion] Re: Aquaponics

I found out about farmhack.net at Maker Faire, as well. Similar to OSE in
regards to open source tools, but solely focused on farming.


 
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