On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:39 PM, fixxxer <
fixx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> sorry but who the hell you are to decide what the php dev group and
> what they should not? why are you going to care about php release
> cycles when you committed 0 lines of code? they bring no difference in
> sending floods and facebook from your iphone.
Who am I? I am the one that Andrei passed along the torch to,
regardless of contributing code. I was someone active in the community
who had expressed enough interested in keeping it alive that he
trusted me to inherit the domains and website and keep this thing
afloat as best as possible. It was obvious nobody else was around to
inherit it as everyone so far seems to have a lot of opinions yet
hasn't contributed code or donations or much at all. Kudos to the few
who edited docs on the wiki, or contributed, but a large % of people
just continued to use it despite the fact I was asking for any help
(money, coding, whatever) on the mailing lists.
I never said that I did not want it in PHP core, I was trying to work
with a PHP core developer already about getting it in and what the
best method would be to get it in. I wanted the stuff that belongs in
PHP core to be there for sure, but what might not be a good idea to be
in PHP core possibly separate.
> dreamcat4 said he has finished his work and prefered to give code
> ownership to the -ru group; thanks to him for the job done, but the
> project in fact remained without an owner so tony decided to push the
> code into the official repo. and now when it is a sapi, php svn is the
> where fpm should be, it won't be lost at least.
dreamcat gave ownership to the -ru group? News to me. Fine with me.
I'm just a useless guy anyway right?
> so long
With this kind of attitude I wonder why I bother with any of this. I
may not have written any code but you have no clue what I was doing
behind the scenes to try to get people to start writing code for the
project including offering money out of MY OWN POCKET.
How about a hearty "thank you for doing the best you can do"
Funny, where were you when I was asking the list for coding help? Or
donations? Nowhere.
But look at you coming out of the woodwork to make sure to disrespect
me publicly for doing what exactly, trying to work out a method to get
what everyone wanted in the long run?
How about you go back on the PHP and PECL dev lists months ago and
look to see me petitioning for support or a sponsor to get it in to
PHP core or at least PECL. Or how I cornered Rasmus at a conference to
ask him about PHP-FPM and it's adoption into one of the above?
Tony has the knowledge to get it done and went ahead and did it. Kudos
x1000 for him. He's one of the idea folks to actually be involved in
this. However, he was not available or not interested at one point
because we've put this in front of him before, Andrei had a meeting
before handing off the project to me with a handful of people, I think
he was one of them, and Andrei decided to change the license and keep
it where it was at for now and not just "give up" and wait for someone
to bring it into PHP core.
Anyway, the code is now in core, people can submit patches to Tony. As
for the website and everything else, I'm still trying to determine
what use any of this may have anymore as the right place for
everything in PHP core is on
php.net.
So maybe you can start hassling them about outdated documentation or
"why isn't this documented on the website" or how to get the latest
versions and such. Because it may be in an SVN branch in PHP core but
it is still a long way from being something supported and living on
php.net yet.