The local corner store in Sambro - $6.99
Sobeys Herring Cove Road - $6.71
Spryfield Superstore - $5.99
Shoppers Drug Mart Herring Cove Road - $5.89
Wal-mart Bayers Lake - $5.19
Costco - $5.19
It pays to shop around, even on regulated prices.
Thrifty Foods, Victoria, BC - 2% - 4 litre jug - $3.89 (lowest price
milk - "Nature's Best"; other brands are a little more)
When I visit my daughter in Halifax I notice how much more milk costs
in NS than in BC.
Victoria's a bit far to go, just for milk.
milk must be the only thing that costs more in NS. victoria pricing is
ridiculous.
No, NS, Halifax specifically isn't cheap either. There is this preconcieved
notion that the cost of living is cheaper in the maritimes (and I'm tired of
the "cost of living" pitch from business - if you are coming from Toronto,
and talking housing, sure, but after that, it's a blurry line. I certainly
haven't found that to be, overall, true. Moved from NB to here a few years
ago and insurance, property tax, etc. were more.
It's regulated at the farmer's level, not at the consumer's level.
I dunno - how much is gas there?
;0)
a
> The local corner store in Sambro - $6.99
> Sobeys Herring Cove Road - $6.71
> Spryfield Superstore - $5.99
> Shoppers Drug Mart Herring Cove Road - $5.89
> Wal-mart Bayers Lake - $5.19
> Costco - $5.19
> It pays to shop around, even on regulated prices.
*** It does but I emplore buyers to be sure the containers are
actually 4 litres in size.
By the way, the regulated price only sets the *maximum*.
Richard
Interesting. That helps explain why my local milkman has given up his
business. He commented about being unable to compete with Superstore,
and that Scotsburn Dairy refused to allow him to lower his price. I'm
not sure, but it sounded like Scotsburn was allowing Superstore to
sell at a lower price than the milkman.
Very goddamn pathetic in any event. Shitholes like Walmart and Costco
putting hardworking local people out of business.
John
Thats great. You pay 600,000 dollars for a 200,000 house, but save two
bucks on a jug of milk. I'll pay the extra for milk, Thanks.
>>
>> Victoria's a bit far to go, just for milk.
>
> I dunno - how much is gas there?
>
> ;0)
>
> a
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I think the home delivery milkman is going to become extinct. It's
been over 15 years since I had home delivery to my home but my sister
still uses this service. Most people in my area have to "go to town"
on a daily basis to work so why would they pay extra to have someone
deliver their milk when they can take five minutes to do it
themselves. In fact, it came more of an inconvenience. He'd leave
the milk on my doorstep after I'd gone to work for the day - not good
on hot summer days and not good when it freezed on cold winter days.
When I saw the pricing my sister pays for home delivery for a 4 litre
it was well over $7. While on a tight budget, this is a privilous
convenience I'm not willing to pay for, just like full serve gas.
Granted I can see why a milkman would have to charge more - he has gas
and expenses to cover to make his living. I have to thank Walmart and
Costco for this little price cut. I don't see it as putting local
people out of business. I see it as leaving a bit more money in the
pocket of local people such as me.
Just caught my own poor grammar - that should be froze not freezed
duh.
Actually, you should do yourself, your children and your wallet a favour
by not buying milk, at all. Not to burst your bubble, but animal milk is
not meant for humans, especially the highly processed milk that is sold.
Dairy products have been linked to many health disorders and diseases,
including asthma and cancer.
Lynne
--
~ BACK TO BASICS ~ "You are what you eat"
Sugar Substitutes ~ Recipes ~ Milk Myths
Natural Healing ~ Disease Prevention & Reversal
http://www.geocities.com/mayflower1ca
Who are you talking to?
a
> Actually, you should do yourself, your children and your wallet a favour
> by not buying milk, at all. Not to burst your bubble, but animal milk is
> not meant for humans, especially the highly processed milk that is sold.
> Dairy products have been linked to many health disorders and diseases,
> including asthma and cancer.
>
> Lynne
>
Oh, boy - here we go...
a
> That helps explain why my local milkman has given up his
> business. He commented about being unable to compete with Superstore,
> and that Scotsburn Dairy refused to allow him to lower his price. I'm
> not sure, but it sounded like Scotsburn was allowing Superstore to
> sell at a lower price than the milkman.
> Very goddamn pathetic in any event. Shitholes like Walmart and Costco
> putting hardworking local people out of business.
> John
*** That's their MO. Drive out the locals and then take the citizens'
money and spend it elsewhere.
Richard
> I think the home delivery milkman is going to become extinct. It's
> been over 15 years since I had home delivery to my home but my sister
> still uses this service. Most people in my area have to "go to town"
> on a daily basis to work so why would they pay extra to have someone
> deliver their milk when they can take five minutes to do it
> themselves. In fact, it came more of an inconvenience. He'd leave
> the milk on my doorstep after I'd gone to work for the day - not good
> on hot summer days and not good when it freezed on cold winter days.
*** "Freezed" ?
> When I saw the pricing my sister pays for home delivery for a 4 litre
> it was well over $7. While on a tight budget, this is a privilous
> convenience I'm not willing to pay for, just like full serve gas.
> Granted I can see why a milkman would have to charge more - he has gas
> and expenses to cover to make his living. I have to thank Walmart and
> Costco for this little price cut. I don't see it as putting local
> people out of business. I see it as leaving a bit more money in the
> pocket of local people such as me.
*** But that's taken away when taxes rise to cover the loss of money to
an area and in the reduction of service.
<Sarcasm>
How did Canadians even afford to live before Mall*Wart? How could they
afford to buy a new car every five years? How did they afford home
delivery of milk and other products? Boy, it must have been impossible -
especially with only one person working in a household.
</sarcasm>
Richard
LOL!
That would be difficult to verify when some milk is sold in bags.
LOL! What's next out of your mouth (fingers)? Milk tastes good and
obviously poses no danger to most people.
The latch isn't working on the looney bin. {;^)
http://www.acsh.org/publications/pubID.513/pub_detail.asp
for starters. I did a quick look on http://www.quackwatch.org/, many of
the sources on her site are mentioned on quackwatch as at best
questionable at worst dangerous.
--
Rich
Enfield NS
Canada
Usnet ads see ftp://ftp.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/advertising/how-to/part1
> *** It does but I emplore buyers to be sure the containers are
> actually 4 litres in size.
Where in the Hell do you purchase a 4 litre container of milk? Do
you own a cow? :)
> By the way, the regulated price only sets the *maximum*.
As in gas regulation? :-)
Rick
102.9 for regular in Victoria.
97.9 at Mill Bay (20-30 minutes north of Victoria).
Speaking of Quacks!!!!!
I swear if somebody posted on here and said "The sky is blue", this wingnut
would find a way to slide in with his Whining about how Walmart is going to
end the World!!!!!!
They're both the cause and the symptom of a society gone wrong.
Before foreign undercutting competitors came in here, we actually had
a variety of stores and services from which to choose. Not now... We
have at most two of every chain store, and one convenience store left.
It's pretty bad when you can roam the HSC end to end and not find
basic school supplies. No one carries them anymore because they can't
compete with Wal-Mart... As a result, everyone has to go to Wal-Mart
to get them.
db
I should clarify that... We have at most two chains of any type of
store -- e.g., two grocery stores, two pharmacies, two major
department stores (three if you count the Bay), etc.
Remember when we had half a dozen of any given kind of store?
db
Have you listened to the crap that comes out of your keyboard? Someone
should pull the plug on your system.
That is what McDonalds did to A&W. Their 29ยข hamburgers were too much
for A&W to compete against.
Well i live in NB, 2L of milk is 2.99. Can't recall the price for 4L,
but the 3 bags (4L total) is about 3.70
NB still hasn't caught on that they need to switch to plastic jugs like
you have in NS. we still use the cardboard non-recyclable containers.
> Actually, you should do yourself, your children and your wallet a favour
> by not buying milk, at all. Not to burst your bubble, but animal milk is
> not meant for humans, especially the highly processed milk that is sold.
> Dairy products have been linked to many health disorders and diseases,
> including asthma and cancer.
>
> Lynne
>
Lots of things aren't "meant" for humans, we choose to eat them and they
are provide us with nutrients. Friggin' junk science.
Some people don't do well when they drink milk. I don't do well when I
eat wheat, it cause me severe distress (celiac)and could disable or kill
me if I continued to eat it, but that doesn't mean others don't do very
well eating nutritious whole wheat and other grains.
Donna
> It's pretty bad when you can roam the HSC end to end and not find
> basic school supplies. No one carries them anymore because they can't
> compete with Wal-Mart... As a result, everyone has to go to Wal-Mart
> to get them.
Sell school supplies at the schools, and let the right people make
the money.
Rick
> Remember when we had half a dozen of any given kind of store?
I remember two locally-owned "convenience stores" within a minute's
walk from Hawthorne Elementary School (the old one). Hell, I remember 3
Mojos for a penny, five and 10 cent chocolate bars and bags of chips,
Pixie Stix, Lick-em Aid... The Dentist. :-)
Rick
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:11:05 GMT, "Rick Walker" <R...@WR.com> wrote:
>> Sell school supplies at the schools, and let the right people make
>>the money.
> They use to do that at the elementary level a few years ago.
> There was a local workshop for physically or mentally challenged
> people,
> who use to make it their business to put together the school supply
> kits
> for the elementary school kids.
I think that's an admirable thing. Why waste money and gas to buy
crap at Wal*Mart when you could purchase at school items of comparibly
better quality (if not the same) that you'd buy at any competitor.
You'd be supporting local economic growth, a good cause and seemingly be
more efficient.
> You could either go to six stores and waste a half tank of gas
> to get all the stuff the school supply list required. Or buy a
> prepackaged kit from this little business, with everthing needed for
> the year.
Keeping the money working, all the while offering towards business
training and a convenience. I'll buy that.
Rick
I suppose nothing was really "meant" for humans... That is to say, I
don't think any living thing exists for the sole purpose of our
nutritional needs! :)
> Some people don't do well when they drink milk. I don't do well when I
> eat wheat, it cause me severe distress (celiac)and could disable or kill
> me if I continued to eat it, but that doesn't mean others don't do very
> well eating nutritious whole wheat and other grains.
I've heard that the hormones in milk -- which are naturally meant for
calves -- can play havoc with some people's body chemistry. And as I
understand it, humans are the only mammals that drink milk beyond
infancy... and that of another species yet.
That said, I drink it by the litre. And nothing beats chocolate milk!
Scotsburn's chocolate tastes the best, IMO, but Farmers isn't bad
either. Baxter's chocolate milk is gritty.
db
You're not the only Dartmouthian (is that right?) who remembers all
those things... Are you familiar with the Heavy Blinkers (all from
Dartmouth, I believe)?...
PENNYCANDY ON THE BRAIN
Popeye cigarettes, candy necklace
Cap rockets and fizz, Lik-m-aid and Pez
The 5 and 10 cent box cures the chicken pox
While wigwag bars and freezies ward off all diseases
[Chorus]
Pennycandy on the brain
My bank's feeling a strain
Going to get some money for my chores
Rain-blo in my mouth, that's what life's about
Hanging out at the store
When I grow up, I'll be strong
And I'll take you in my arms
And I'll never let you go
Only to go to the store
For your birthday, a ring-pop
For Christmas, perfume gum
I'm ready for this kiss
I've practiced on wax-lips
db
Stuff like that used to be everywhere, which is good for someone who
walks and buses all the time. I find Staples is okay if I want the
basics; but I've walked out empty-handed many times. I've gone in to
get pads for my portfolio/folder, only to find they had none that
would fit it (and it's not anything unusual). Another time, I needed
graph paper... None. Another time, a circular protractor... None.
Honestly, I've had better luck at Dal's bookstore.
When Mahon's was in Scotia Square, I used to wander around in there
while waiting for the #80 back to Sackville. The prices were a bit
high, but I'd like to see Mahon's back in the malls. More convenient,
better selection, quality products. Unfortunately, that doesn't
describe Staples very well.
db
At least there was genuine competition. Now, for any given commodity,
there's one -- maybe two -- stores that sell it.
db
I, very honestly, cannot imagine that.
A few weeks ago, a friend and I were up at the HSC. When it closed,
we thought about grabbing a bite, so we decided on McDonald's since it
was right there. Plus, it'd been some time since I'd been to a
McDonald's, so I figured, what the hell...
BIG mistake! After a cheeseburger and regular fries, I walked home
feeling (seriously) like I was either going to puke or... how do I put
this... Something was coming out of one end or the other, let's just
say that.
Whatever they're selling there, it isn't food!
Oddly, the one McDonald's item I can never get enough of is their
no-name, uncarbonated orange pop. Everybody else I know hates it, but
I could drink that stuff all day! :)
db
Different opinions...
http://www.oxfordjournals.org/eshre/press-release/freepdf/dem019.pdf
Tuesday, February 27, 2007
High-fat dairy foods may help some women get pregnant
Women having trouble getting pregnant because they aren't ovulating
regularly may want to drink a daily glass of whole milk and skip the
skim, according to a Harvard study appearing in tomorrow's issue of
the journal Human Reproduction.
Dr. Jorge E. Chavarro and his colleagues at the Harvard School of
Public Health followed 18,555 women in the Nurses Health Study II for
eight years. They found that eating low-fat dairy foods may increase
the risk of infertility from a lack of ovulation by 85 percent while
eating high-fat dairy foods may decrease the risk by 27 percent.
:
> I suppose nothing was really "meant" for humans... That is to say, I
> don't think any living thing exists for the sole purpose of our
> nutritional needs! :)
Of course they were meant for our nutritional needs. That's why so many of
god's creatures are so tasty :-)
>And as I understand it, humans are the only mammals that drink milk beyond
> infancy... and that of another species yet.
But, the other mammals probably would, if they could.
Humans have adapted over thousands of years to thrive on the milk
and milk products of other animals. Even if it were not natural to
drink animal milk into adulthood, we have over time accustomed our
bodies to the practice, in the same way we accustomed our bodies
to tolerate the poison called alcohol.
Just another statement that proves you're not sane. {;^)
> PS. anyone who trys to sell a hotdog for 4.29 doesn't need to be in
> business!!!
That's not the price it was when Rotten Ronnie's moved to town.
I'm with you on this one.
> A few weeks ago, a friend and I were up at the HSC. When it closed, we
> thought about grabbing a bite, so we decided on McDonald's since it was
> right there. Plus, it'd been some time since I'd been to a McDonald's, so
> I figured, what the hell...
>
> BIG mistake! After a cheeseburger and regular fries, I walked home
> feeling (seriously) like I was either going to puke or... how do I put
> this... Something was coming out of one end or the other, let's just say
> that.
>
> Whatever they're selling there, it isn't food!
Floor sweepings and sawdust.
Their fries are actually "extruded potato starch" squeezed out of a
tube.
> "Richard Bonner" <ak...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
> > *** It does but I emplore buyers to be sure the containers are
> > actually 4 litres in size.
> That would be difficult to verify when some milk is sold in bags.
*** No, I menat that consumers should read the markings and not just
assume that the same "size" containres actually all contain 4 litres of
product.
Richard
> "Richard Bonner" <ak...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
> > *** It does but I emplore buyers to be sure the containers are
> > actually 4 litres in size.
> Where in the Hell do you purchase a 4 litre container of milk? Do
> you own a cow? :)
> Rick
*** There are 4-litre jugs available, but given the windshield washer
and similar containers are often not 4 litres now, I suggested that
consumers check the size when comparing prices.
Richard
Sobeys, Superstore, etc.
a
> "Richard Bonner" <ak...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
> > har...@hfx.eastlink.ca wrote:
> >
> >> I think the home delivery milkman is going to become extinct. It's
> >> been over 15 years since I had home delivery to my home but my sister
> >> still uses this service. Most people in my area have to "go to town"
> >> on a daily basis to work so why would they pay extra to have someone
> >> deliver their milk when they can take five minutes to do it
> >> themselves. In fact, it came more of an inconvenience. He'd leave
> >> the milk on my doorstep after I'd gone to work for the day - not good
> >> on hot summer days and not good when it freezed on cold winter days.
> >
> > *** "Freezed" ?
> >
> >> When I saw the pricing my sister pays for home delivery for a 4 litre
> >> it was well over $7. While on a tight budget, this is a privilous
> >> convenience I'm not willing to pay for, just like full serve gas.
> >> Granted I can see why a milkman would have to charge more - he has gas
> >> and expenses to cover to make his living. I have to thank Walmart and
> >> Costco for this little price cut. I don't see it as putting local
> >> people out of business. I see it as leaving a bit more money in the
> >> pocket of local people such as me.
> >
> > *** But that's taken away when taxes rise to cover the loss of money to
> > an area and in the reduction of service.
> >
> > <Sarcasm>
> > How did Canadians even afford to live before Mall*Wart? How could they
> > afford to buy a new car every five years? How did they afford home
> > delivery of milk and other products? Boy, it must have been impossible -
> > especially with only one person working in a household.
> > </sarcasm>
> >
> > Richard
> Speaking of Quacks!!!!!
> I swear if somebody posted on here and said "The sky is blue", this wingnut
> would find a way to slide in with his Whining about how Walmart is going to
> end the World!!!!!!
*** Except that I didn't bring it up it; harnish did.
Richard
> They're both the cause and the symptom of a society gone wrong.
> Before foreign undercutting competitors came in here, we actually had
> a variety of stores and services from which to choose.
*** ...and Canadians could actually afford to buy quality products
then, too.
> Not now... We
> have at most two of every chain store, and one convenience store left.
> It's pretty bad when you can roam the HSC end to end and not find
> basic school supplies. No one carries them anymore because they can't
> compete with Wal-Mart... As a result, everyone has to go to Wal-Mart
> to get them.
> db
*** Choices have been reduced in many other areas, too, db.
Richard.
> "PBMJJ" <PB...@NOYB.CA> wrote:
> > Speaking of Quacks!!!!!
> > I swear if somebody posted on here and said "The sky is blue", this
> > wingnut would find a way to slide in with his Whining about how Walmart is
> > going to end the World!!!!!!
> Have you listened to the crap that comes out of your keyboard? Someone
> should pull the plug on your system.
*** I wonder if PBMJJ works for Mall*Wart.
Richard
> "Richard Bonner" <ak...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
> > *** That's their MO. Drive out the locals and then take the citizens'
> > money and spend it elsewhere.
> That is what McDonalds did to A&W. Their 29ยข hamburgers were too much
> for A&W to compete against.
*** Sarcasm aside, McDonalds did drive out many smaller family
restaurants over the years.
They are also accused of bringing in the concept of minimum-wage,
part-time work for all employees except management. These are known as
"McJobs" in the press.
Richard
> All ripping us off to their hearts content
> Punk
*** How were they ripping us off?
Richard
> You're not the only Dartmouthian (is that right?) who remembers all
> those things... Are you familiar with the Heavy Blinkers (all from
> Dartmouth, I believe)?...
> PENNYCANDY ON THE BRAIN
> Popeye cigarettes, candy necklace
> Cap rockets and fizz, Lik-m-aid and Pez
> The 5 and 10 cent box cures the chicken pox
> While wigwag bars and freezies ward off all diseases
> [Chorus]
> Pennycandy on the brain
> My bank's feeling a strain
> Going to get some money for my chores
> Rain-blo in my mouth, that's what life's about
> Hanging out at the store
> When I grow up, I'll be strong
> And I'll take you in my arms
> And I'll never let you go
> Only to go to the store
> For your birthday, a ring-pop
> For Christmas, perfume gum
> I'm ready for this kiss
> I've practiced on wax-lips
Never heard that before in my life db, but thanks for that bit of
fun! I remember those candy necklaces, wax lips and Popeye cigarettes
too. :)
Rick
> Honestly, I've had better luck at Dal's bookstore.
> When Mahon's was in Scotia Square, I used to wander around in there
> while waiting for the #80 back to Sackville. The prices were a bit
> high, but I'd like to see Mahon's back in the malls. More convenient,
> better selection, quality products. Unfortunately, that doesn't
> describe Staples very well.
> db
*** I used to shop at Mahons and Wilsons. Then predator Business Depo
(now Staples) came in and destroyed them. As soon as they were gone,
Staples' prices rose to the levels of Mahons and Wilsons except that our
money now leaves the area and the country. The same thing happened with
predator Toys r Us. Have you seen the outrageous prices of some of their
products?
Richard
> *** I used to shop at Mahons and Wilsons. Then predator Business
> Depo
> (now Staples) came in and destroyed them. As soon as they were gone,
> Staples' prices rose to the levels of Mahons and Wilsons except that
> our
> money now leaves the area and the country.
I miss the selection of Canadian stores that marketed to schools and
offices. Everybody was doing it, from specific office supply stores to
local businesses. A Hilroy scribbler or Campfire Notebook could be
found at any corner store!
> The same thing happened with predator Toys r Us. Have you seen the
> outrageous prices of some of their products?
I don't shop there, and I can't help but wonder why you do, RB...
(-:
Rick
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:29:52 -0400, demibee <dem...@post.com> wrote:
> >At least there was genuine competition. Now, for any given commodity,
> >there's one -- maybe two -- stores that sell it.
> >
> >db
> Name the commodity only available at one or two stores in HRM.
> There's tons of competition.
*** There isn't tonnes of competition. We only have a couple of
stationery stores from which to choose, only a couple of toy stores, only
about three department stores.
> It's just the old players with their old
> ways have been squeezed out.
> Punk
*** You mean those stores that paid their employees well and with
benefits? You mean those stores that sold quality products? You mean
those stores that sold Canadian goods?
Richard
> "PBMJJ" <PB...@NOYB.CA> wrote:
> > ...anyone who trys to sell a hotdog for 4.29 doesn't need to be in
> > business!!!
> That's not the price it was when Rotten Ronnie's moved to town.
*** No, but McDonald's did employ predator tactics. They offered 5
burgers for a buck in 1971 and 1972. What does everyone think that did to
the competition?
Richard
> Rick Walker wrote:
>> Where in the Hell do you purchase a 4 litre container of milk?
>> Do
>> you own a cow? :)
> *** There are 4-litre jugs available, but given the windshield
> washer
> and similar containers are often not 4 litres now, I suggested that
> consumers check the size when comparing prices.
I've been keeping an eye on product sizes since we went Metric, and
I certainly hope everyone else has as well. The latest downsize I
noticed was blocks (540 gm) of cheese, dropping to 520. Naw, nobody
will notice that. Yeah, right.
Windshield washer fluid was sold in 2 litre containers once, but now
it's something like 1.89 litres (if we're lucky.)
Rick
> Rick Walker wrote:
>> Where in the Hell do you purchase a 4 litre container of milk? Do
>> you own a cow? :)
> Sobeys, Superstore, etc.
Geez I worked at Sobeys and don't recall those. Probably because
the milk retailers fill their own displays, and I didn't have to touch
it. I'll look next time I'm there; it shouldn't be too hard to miss. I
only ever grab a 2 or 1 litre at a time, but families would go for the
big guns I'm sure.
Rick
Toys can be purchased from Wal-Mart, Zellers, Superstore, Sears, Toys R US
and probably a few specialty toy stores in the HRM.
> *** No, but McDonald's did employ predator tactics. They offered 5
> burgers for a buck in 1971 and 1972. What does everyone think that did
> to
> the competition?
Yet A&W are still here, as well as Dairy Queen and a few others.
What fast food chains fell to the hands of McDonalds?
Rick
Agreed. Lactose tolerance is the norm for nothern europeans, where they
have evolved to digest it properly. There is a small article related to
this in todays daily news. I don't see it online, it's in the printed copy.
The theory is that was a constant source of nutrition, where crops could
fail and other food would be hard to come by in off seasons, as long as you
had grazing livestock, you had some easy calorie intake. They estimated
the evolutionary change to take place around 5000bc.
In moderation, no harm done.
They did a study on it? Damn, I'm so smart.
They have done studies on detergents too
> "Richard Bonner" <ak...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
> > *** I used to shop at Mahons and Wilsons. Then predator Business
> > Depo
> > (now Staples) came in and destroyed them. As soon as they were gone,
> > Staples' prices rose to the levels of Mahons and Wilsons except that
> > our money now leaves the area and the country.
> > The same thing happened with predator Toys r Us. Have you seen the
> > outrageous prices of some of their products?
> I don't shop there, and I can't help but wonder why you do, RB...
> (-:
> Rick
*** I don't but go in from time to time to look at K'Nex amusement-park
related products for website research.
In particular, I find their board game prices to be really high.
Richard
> "Richard Bonner" <ak...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
> > Punk wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:29:52 -0400, demibee <dem...@post.com> wrote:
> >> >At least there was genuine competition. Now, for any given commodity,
> >> >there's one -- maybe two -- stores that sell it.
> >> >
> >> >db
> >> Name the commodity only available at one or two stores in HRM.
> >> There's tons of competition.
> > *** There isn't tonnes of competition. We only have a couple of
> > stationery stores from which to choose, only a couple of toy stores, only
> > about three department stores.
> While there is only a couple of dedicated stationary stores, one can
> purchase stationary items at Wal-Mart, Zellers, Superstore, Sobeys,
> Lawton's, Shoppers Drug Mart, etc.
> Toys can be purchased from Wal-Mart, Zellers, Superstore, Sears, Toys R US
> and probably a few specialty toy stores in the HRM.
*** Correct, but none have the selection that was once available. I
remember The Bay having a large section devoted to toys even while
Dominion Playworld was in the same Mall (Mic Mac). There used to be a
large Wilsons at Mic Mac and a smaller one at Penhorn with stationery
supplies plus fax machines, typewriters, calculators, etc.
We simply don't have that level of choice anymore.
Richard
> "Richard Bonner" <ak...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
> > *** No, but McDonald's did employ predator tactics. They offered 5
> > burgers for a buck in 1971 and 1972. What does everyone think that did
> > to the competition?
> Yet A&W are still here, as well as Dairy Queen and a few others.
> What fast food chains fell to the hands of McDonalds?
> Rick
*** The chains didn't fall (except Tasty Freeze), it was the local
restaurants that suffered. Plus, remember the ice cream trucks that used
to troll the neighbourhoods? Once the chains arrived, it wasn't long
before they went into demise.
Richard
Well, there I'm not so smart.
My mom, a smoker, told me that when she started to smoke, she always
had trouble getting that first fag out of a brand new pack. Thicker
back then than today.
I used to love yohgourt, came in 1 litre containers, saw them drop to
900ml then 750ml and these days it's down to 650ml. Back then it was
real yohgourt, not todays' starch thickened milk.
It's a proven fact that big box stores do take out the smaller
competition. We only see the tip of the iceberg with in retail,
because retail is in the public eye. It's the remainder of the
iceburg, which not many people see that is in trouble, mainly
manufacturing. One can read of manufactures going belly up or just
shutting down by the handful every single day in North America.
Manufacturing and/or transformation of products is the core richness
of any country, but big box doesn't care, they don't even care about
basic workers rights in third world countries.
Basically, when we buy products from 3rd world countries, we support
slavery, plain and simple.
>I see it as leaving a bit more money in the
> pocket of local people such as me.
Sure, by giving up service for cost your ahead aren't you?
I mean, mom & pop store which you could park right at the door, walk
in, get a big smile and "Hello, how are you today, how may I help?",
tell them what you need, pay for it and be on your merry way within 5
minutes. V.S. Big box store, park half a Km away, walk 3 minutes, get
in, walk around for a half hour trying to find your product or a
salesperson who can actually help you (and not look as lost as you
are, having to ask another employee for help), then deal with the long
lineups.
Whatever money that you do end up saving, chances are you'll spend on
another product made outside of Canada at a multinational retailer
whos profits leaves the country. How then, does this aid in the local
economy in which you live and earn a living?
Yes, because Bic pens will suddenly become less crappy because they're
not bought at WalMart... Unless you buy store brand pens, the quality
difference won't matter between stores. Bic stic pens will suck
regardless of where you get them (once I wrote them complaining of how
crappy their pens were and they sent me another package of crappy
pens) and on the same note, Papermate pens will always be better than
Bic pens regardless of where you buy them. Though I'd think most
people buy their school supplies at Staples, not WalMart.
> You'd be supporting local economic growth, a good cause and seemingly be
> more efficient.
Yeah look how well it works for the University book stores. They get
to sell the exact same products (with fewer selection), for several
times more. This is after gouging for textbooks. Individual schools
wouldn't have the buying power of a big chain though.
That said it's a decent idea for something like elementry where
there's a very large, very specific list of crap to buy. It would cut
down on driving all over town looking for that last doodad that all
the stores are out of. For later grades usually the needs aren't far
beyond pens, pencils, paper and binders.
That's why A&W isn't still in business. Oh wait it is.
I'm not sure where I stand on milk. I have one teenager who gets
terrible stomach pains whenever any dairy at all is consumed. She can
take a lactase enzyme pill that prevents problems when she knows
lactose will be present in food and can tolerate it fine then. I have
another teenage who drinks huge amounts of milk and at age 14 stands
5'11, has a full beard and can work like an ox.
Your website has a lot of very solid advice for a healthy diet. Much
of it is common sense; things like eating lots of vegetables and
sticking to unrefined foods and avoiding sugars and bad fats, etc.
Cheers,
John
No, that's just the latch on your belt. Probably from eating too much
of your wife's cake. {;^)
I see, it would have been easier if you had said that <g>.
You don't know the half of it.
Thanks for the plug. {;^)
I don't believe Toys r Us manufacturer any products. They do however
carry a wide range of other company's products.
I wonder if it thinks.
Arby's did the same thing. Five of their roast beef sandwiches for five
dollars.
The A&W Drive Ins ceased to exist.
Not to the extent it used to be with the Drive Ins.
No, your wife provides the plug, for your cake hole.
Your belt is the evidence. {;^)
Yeah, but nowhere near what you could get at a single Mahon's.
A few years ago, I stopped into the HSC (which is close to home) to
look for a handheld pencil sharpener -- the non-mechanical, blade-type
kind that can be taken anywhere. In the entire mall -- even Sears --
the was Not One. (Since then, I've seen some cheapies at Lawton's.)
So, I ended up going across the street to Wal-Mart.
That's only one example, but it's pretty bad when only one or two
stores carry a given item.
The same is true for grocery stores... Once upon a time, there was
Dominion, Sobeys, IGA, Save-Easy, No Frills, and others I can no
longer recall. Now there's Sobeys and Superstore... and *one* Costco
on this side of the harbour (not sure if there's one on the other).
Yes, we'll soon be able to shop for groceries at Wal-Mart, but that
may mean losing one of the other two.
The same was true for pharmaceuticals... We had the two big ones --
Lawton's and Shoppers -- but we also had others along with Mom and Pop
pharmacies. Of course, a person can get a script filled at the
grocery stores now... and Wal-Mart. It wouldn't surprise me to see
Lawton's slowly disappear as people keep all their shopping under one
roof. It's hard to compete with that -- i.e., to make your small
pharmacy into something that could compete with a mega-department
store / grocery store / pharmacy.
I suspect that in the end, we'll see Wal-Mart, maybe a Costco, one
grocery chain, and one department store. Choice galore! ;)
In any case, as it stands now, there's No Way that we have as much
choice as I remember having in the early '80s. It's not even close.
The only things that are Easier to get are those things that didn't
exist in the early '80s.
db
The band actively encouraged downloads of their stuff when that came
out. They said they were hearing from people all over the world -- no
longer just the HRM or even just Nova Scotia.
Their music is very (intentionally) cheesy... sort of an early '60s
pop sound... definitely Beach Boys and other similar influences there,
but with sillier lyrics.
db
That's just it... Wal-Mart has Only that kind of crap. At a Mahon's
(or any other decent stationery store), you'd've been looking at those
in addition to Paper Mate, Shaffer, Parker, etc... ballpoint pens,
roller ball pens, fountain pens... cheap ones, plastic refillable
ones, and metal ones that'd last a lifetime.
In short, it's all stuff you won't see at Wal-Mart because "most
people don't buy that; so we don't sell it." Well, great, but could
you compete fairly with those who DO?!
It's lowest-common-denominator thinking. Screw the customer if he
wants something that 80% of the public isn't interested in; he should
just conform, I guess, and purchase something he doesn't really want.
Apply that to brands and types of paper and bristol board, office
supplies (staplers, hole punches, paper cutters, binders, etc.),
envelopes, folders, measuring devices, etc., etc. Now imagine one of
those in every other mall... and it becomes easy to see that shopping
is less convenient and there's less choice.
For some of that stuff, you could go to an art store like Loomis and
Toles -- hardly convenient.
Seriously, Dal's bookstore has more than either Staples or Wal-Mart
when it comes to items like these.
db
But it seems that Most of our products come from somewhere else...
often out of the country. There was a time when imports were the
rarity, some of them even being seen as a bit "exotic." Now they're
the norm; it's expected that what you have in your home came from
someplace nowhere near it.
db
>> I don't shop there, and I can't help but wonder why you do, RB...
> In particular, I find their board game prices to be really high.
Take a ladder next time. (-:
Rick
>> Windshield washer fluid was sold in 2 litre containers once, but
>> now
>> it's something like 1.89 litres (if we're lucky.)
> My mom, a smoker, told me that when she started to smoke, she always
> had trouble getting that first fag out of a brand new pack. Thicker
> back then than today.
I remember those days, Basillic. I've been rolling my own cigs for
ten years or better, saving as much money as I could while I commit
suicide on the installment plan. But I remember damn near bending them
in half taking one out of a fresh pack.
> I used to love yohgourt, came in 1 litre containers, saw them drop to
> 900ml then 750ml and these days it's down to 650ml. Back then it was
> real yohgourt, not todays' starch thickened milk.
Never a fan of yoghurt, ice cream seems to remain constant at 1 and
2 litre containers. Hagen Daz comes in 500 mls, but that's only for
special occasions. :)
Rick