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Will Bradley  
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 6:33 pm
From: Will Bradley <bradley.w...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:33:02 -0700
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 6:33 pm
Subject: Re: [HSL] Re: POLL: What do YOU think makes HeatSync Labs great?

I'll tackle this awesome poll later, but Jerry and Mike have hit on one big
problem we have: we've inadvertently created Phoenix's best geek
hangout<http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/bestof/2012/award/best-geek-hangout-31...>.
(Congrats!) It's amazing... until you go home five days in a row feeling
jazzed but dissatisfied because you didn't actually get anything done. So
it's a constant challenge for everyone to inspire each other without
distracting from the amazing projects in front of us :)

I've said this privately to a few people, but HeatSync tends to occupy the
very top of Maslow's Hierarchy of
Needs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs>for
members, called "self actualization." (It might be lower on the
pyramid
for those of us who need the tools to make things to pay rent, or who need
to feel like they belong somewhere.) Basically, the reason you're a member
likely isn't for feeding your belly, it's for feeding your mind or soul.
You come to HeatSync to feel accomplished, fulfilled, respected; sometimes
that takes the form of inspiration, but other times it's about making a
robot or web app or snazzy Halloween costume.
But hackerspaces occupy a pretty tenuous place in people's lives. Maslow's
Hierarchy means that if you can't eat, or can't afford a car, or have a
painful lack of friends/family/companionship, you might have trouble
justifying something like a hackerspace. Likewise if the hackerspace stops
fulfilling those higher needs like accomplishment, respect, and creativity,
you'll find other places that are more fulfilling.
The various formal and informal leaders here can't easily force you to do
something unfulfilling. Who gets off work, kicks off their shoes, and feels
motivated to organize a drawer full of drill bits? Nobody's paying you to
do it, it'd be insanely expensive to make it worth your time, so why do it?
Because hopefully it represents a contribution to something that fulfills
you. You take out the trash because you've grown to care for the building
and the things inside it. But if you don't care, because it's not worth it
to you, because it's not fulfilling you in ways you need to be fulfilled,
then you stop contributing and move on. So this whole house of cards is
resting on elusive things like accomplishment, respect, and creativity. :)

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Jerry Davis <jdaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is a combination of several things.

> 1) I have always been a geek. And it is a privilege to just BE with other
> geeks in the space.
> 2) There are tools there, that I couldn't possibly afford/put in my home
> that I am free to use.
> 3) I love learning, and just hanging out.
> 4) I am interested in what everyone else is doing. My wife is a maker
> although she doesn't want to admit it :), but she's been crocheting for
> almost 50 years.

> But I would have to say it is the friends I have made here ... I feel like
> I belong.

> jerry

> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Mike Bushroe <mbush...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I concur. I was just down there Tuesday. I got very little accomplished,
>> but felt quite jazzed by spending time with people who think like I do, who
>> value ideas and engineering problem solving, and learning, and doing, and
>> learning to do new things. In short, it is fun to finally hang around with
>> a concentrated group of people with the same mental 'bend' as I do.

>> Tools certainly add to the fun. Making together is even more fun. Having
>> access to tools I don't have at home (not as big a deal for me as many
>> since I have a few myself) is great. But it is the joy of hanging out with
>> others who 'get me' and the synergistic effect of discussing problems and
>> ideas with people who have different approaches, but like to solve similar
>> problems is what really draws me. And virtual presence doesn't do that fo
>> me. I want full presence, full bandwidth, hands on. And also to directly
>> help others, not just write down instructions.

>>   I hope that helps.

>> Mike

>> On Friday, October 12, 2012 1:08:35 PM UTC-7, Chad Stearns wrote:

>>> So, now that I am out of calculus class and I can elaborate.

>>> I think, if heatsync is a good thing, then it is because its associated
>>> with the individuals in the space. It is not good because of its
>>> association with technology, but certain technology empowers the
>>> individuals in the space and these technologies are inherent in the
>>> individuals in the community..

>>> -ChadCS

>>> On Friday, October 12, 2012 12:48:30 PM UTC-7, Chad Stearns wrote:

>>>> Thats funny, Absolute0tricks and I were talking about what it means to
>>>> make the other day. He probably has some insights into this question as
>>>> well.

>>>> My description of "making" is that something is "made" than it has *come into
>>>> existence, as a consequence of conscious intent and direct intervention.
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> "Hacking", I feel is intimately associated with technology. Technology
>>>> is a set of physical tools and techniques used to manipulate in some
>>>> efficient way. A computer mouse is technology because is manipulated a
>>>> computer in an efficient way, and a laser in a mouse is technology because
>>>> it detects the 2 dimension motion of the mouse in an efficient way.

>>>> So, "hacking" I think describes the *development and control of
>>>> technology, in a personal way. *So, if I develop a social hack (saying
>>>> hi to people), its hacking because its personal and self developed, if a
>>>> huge company decides they are going to say hi to people, its no longer
>>>> hacking. And likewise, if I watch TV, I am using technology, but I am not
>>>> developing or controlling it, so it is not hacking.

>>>> -ChadCS

>>>> On Friday, October 12, 2012 12:24:58 PM UTC-7, Ben Humpherys wrote:

>>>>> Out of curiousity, I would like to hear everybodies own explanations
>>>>> and definitions of a couple things about what makes us great and why. So,
>>>>> answer each of the questions below, in your own words.  If one way of
>>>>> explaining it resonates to a lot of people, I think that is important. If
>>>>> someone words something you think is really really great, quote them
>>>>> directly. So:

>>>>> *What does it mean to "Make"? What is the definition of "Making"?*
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *What does it mean to "Hack" something? What is the definition of
>>>>> "Hacking"?*
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *What things about being involved with HeatSync do you enjoy the most?
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *What are the most important values we share at HeatSync?*
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *Why should other people care about what we are doing?*
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *What does it mean to be a "do-ocracy"? What do you think of that
>>>>> model of operation?*
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *Who are the leaders of HeatSync labs? What gives them authority?*
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *What traits in fellow members do you respect the most? Which are
>>>>> most important?*

>>>>  --

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