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Brian Aday  
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 6:57 pm
From: Brian Aday <projecti...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:57:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 6:57 pm
Subject: A question about voting - $25 members excluded?

Our Bylaws say *Members* can vote in board elections, and *Associate
Membership* is membership.

Also, we passed $25 voting for HYH as Ryan details here:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!searchin/heatsynclabs/2...

Did this not give them the right to vote for board members? The election is
held in conjunction with a HYH.

Not trying to start a flame war, I am just bringing this up as a fairness
and consistency  issue. I thought the community already settled this.


 
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Will Bradley  
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 7:19 pm
From: Will Bradley <bradley.w...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:19:33 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 7:19 pm
Subject: Re: [HSL] A question about voting - $25 members excluded?

I agree this should be clarified. The member tiers were defined in the
bylaws before, but were since moved to the Rules which are here:
http://wiki.heatsynclabs.org/wiki/Rules#Membership_Tiers (you can also view
the wiki history to confirm.) We created the Associate tier literally as a
way to support us without spending $50/mo. We asked if people wanted to pay
$25/mo for essentially nothing in return, and people said yes (they want to
contribute.)

My understanding of the HYH vote was that it applied to the HYH vote only,
and not board elections. I could be mistaken; let's discuss. (There are
only about ten $25 members, most of whom aren't very active, compared to 70
basic+ members. If you're a $25 member and want to vote, please yell loudly
right now! Voter suppression is not the goal!)

I'm in favor of either (a) renaming Associate Member to just Associate, or
"Friend of HeatSync " to avoid confusion, or (b) adjusting the rules so
that all >$25/mo member tiers get a vote on board elections. There are
advantages and disadvantages to both. A: people like the word "member." Not
a single person has ever used the $1, $5, or $10/mo sponsorship options
right below the membership options. B: If you have $250, now you can buy 10
votes and win by a landslide. (Minimum membership term requirements?)


 
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Will Bradley  
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 7:22 pm
From: Will Bradley <bradley.w...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:22:16 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 7:22 pm
Subject: Re: [HSL] A question about voting - $25 members excluded?

I forgot a line, please re-read the first paragraph with bold:

I agree this should be clarified. The member tiers were defined in the


 
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JR  
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 7:31 pm
From: JR <google_nos...@rziha.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:31:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 7:31 pm
Subject: Re: [HSL] A question about voting - $25 members excluded?

Here's how I think of things:

Non-member: Can be in the lab as a guest of a member, and use the equipment
that way.    Can be asked to leave at any time.

Associate member
-Can be in the lab and use the equipment,
-Gets member discounts on classes
-Can  not have 24hr access or vote (although now they can vote in HYH).  

Full Member: Everything an associate member gets plus the opportunity for
24hr access and the right to vote.

As someone who only makes it up to the lab every few weeks/months, this
suits my needs fine.  I don't care for the politics (although if there's a
problem I'll try to do something about it), so I don't get excited about
voting.  If I decide I want to vote, I'll change from the $25 to the $50
membership.


 
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Will Bradley  
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 7:34 pm
From: Will Bradley <bradley.w...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:33:46 -0700
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 7:33 pm
Subject: Re: [HSL] A question about voting - $25 members excluded?

Found the original proposal which was under the topic of HYH rules:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!searchin/heatsynclabs/p...

Either way I plan to push for my (a) or (b) ideas via a HYH proposal, since
it is a loose end.


 
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JR  
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 More options Oct 11 2012, 7:37 pm
From: JR <google_nos...@rziha.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:37:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Oct 11 2012 7:37 pm
Subject: Re: [HSL] A question about voting - $25 members excluded?

I agree clarification would be good- but would favor (b).  

It's not much different than junior memberships at many clubs.


 
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