I know that is really vulgar. Sorry. But this is the first time in my life I have ever said that so many times as I try to understand something new.
It all starts when I see this cool video about coding for blueprint. A framework ...Compass......The idea rocks! so Im like..lets get this..but then it says I need SASS...hmmm ok...another framework??? hmmm WTF...fine lets get that too!! wait..IT says that I need Haml..WTF??? ok what is that...dont know..another framework...ok ...fine...let's get that too.....WAIT...it runs on Ruby??huh? WTF??? ok lets see what that is all about....hmmm..a programming language!!!WTF!!!...not for windows..WTF!!!!.kinda for macs..WTF..but hey It has a WIN distribution after all..ok lets get that..the instructions are like "just ruby install/done" WTF??? where??? I download install a webpage opens..it's effing broken..where do I put "ruby install/done"..after a day I figure out I have to use windows command promt!!! WTF!!!!
ok this this ruby is finally working..it like a server or something, WTF..it is running..now I need a GEM??WTF!!!!! something about Ruby on Rails..multiple versions some older that others I am getting a massive headache.......
back to the haml site one way or another it seems I need something called EMACS..WTF..!!!!! I dare you to install it and see how many WTFsss you will say....it's like some text editor that is so smart that you dont use the mouse dont even use the cursor keys..if you want to go back one character you hit control then B!!! Brilliant!!! two random keys instead of one with an arrow!!!!WWWTTTFFFF!! ok I might not need this crap.... lost a day learning to use the Rubik cube of text editors. back to haml. back to sass. back to compass.
Install: sudo gem install compass
WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm very sorry you found Sass and Compass hard to install. We try to do our best to guide people through the installation process as easily as possible, but this isn't always easy for people who don't already have Ruby installed.
In the future, we intend to provide a single-download graphical installer for Sass and Compass, but until then we welcome input on our installation instructions. Was http://ruby-lang.org not clear about how to install Ruby on Windows? Where did you get the impression that you needed to install Emacs? That's certainly not required.
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:37 PM, DogBot <alejo.col...@gmail.com> wrote: > I know that is really vulgar. Sorry. But this is the first time in my > life I have ever said that so many times as I try to understand > something new.
> It all starts when I see this cool video about coding for blueprint. A > framework ...Compass......The idea rocks! so Im like..lets get > this..but then it says I need SASS...hmmm ok...another framework??? > hmmm WTF...fine lets get that too!! wait..IT says that I need > Haml..WTF??? ok what is that...dont know..another > framework...ok ...fine...let's get that too.....WAIT...it runs on > Ruby??huh? WTF??? ok lets see what that is all about....hmmm..a > programming language!!!WTF!!!...not for windows..WTF!!!!.kinda for > macs..WTF..but hey It has a WIN distribution after all..ok lets get > that..the instructions are like "just ruby install/done" WTF??? > where??? I download install a webpage opens..it's effing broken..where > do I put "ruby install/done"..after a day I figure out I have to use > windows command promt!!! WTF!!!!
> ok this this ruby is finally working..it like a server or something, > WTF..it is running..now I need a GEM??WTF!!!!! something about Ruby on > Rails..multiple versions some older that others I am getting a massive > headache.......
> back to the haml site one way or another it seems I need something > called EMACS..WTF..!!!!! I dare you to install it and see how many > WTFsss you will say....it's like some text editor that is so smart > that you dont use the mouse dont even use the cursor keys..if you want > to go back one character you hit control then B!!! Brilliant!!! two > random keys instead of one with an arrow!!!!WWWTTTFFFF!! ok I might > not need this crap.... lost a day learning to use the Rubik cube of > text editors. back to haml. back to sass. back to compass.
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The professor wrote L' = -ρVΓ on the board. We all marveled at the simplicity when he told us that it defines the lift of a 2-D wing.
"What? That can't be," someone said.
"It is. In fact, it describes the lift of any 2-D body in an incompressible fluid," he stated.
Span-wise lift equals the negative fluid density times the free-flow velocity times the circulation.
We then spent the next few classes of this aerodynamics class learning the proof behind this incredibly simple equation. We dove into Taylor expansions, Green's Theorem, and (if I recall correctly) Laplacian Transforms. Once we got done, we each had a number of pages that fully decomposed this simple equation into something that was finally intuitively provable. We then spent another couple weeks applying the formula to various shapes as point vortices and finally panel vortices.
I bring this all up because it took me a long time in school to get to the point where I could even keep up with the professor. Even though the equation looked simple, showing that it actually meant something took a ton of effort.
Blueprint is great. Compass is awesome. Haml, as far as I'm concerned, absolutely rocks. But I say this as someone who has spent years making my way to the point where I can read the "quick start" guide and simply go. When I found out about Haml, Sass, Compass, and Blueprint, I had already made it 95% of the way there. I already knew linux, os x, ruby, rails, etc. I had, in effect, taken all of the pre-requisites for something like an Aerodynamics class.
DogBot, you're not there yet, but I wish you the best. When you get stuck, ask for help from friends, IRC, mailing lists... whatever is at your disposal. If you stay positive and open your mind like a sponge, you'll get there with the help of your persistence and various communities.
I'm not intending to "talk down" to anyone... just trying to explain that something may look simple at first blush, but there's bound to be plenty of knowledge required to work with it correctly.
Best, :brad
PS: As someone who doesn't use Windows for development, I can't help you with installation issues. I can say, however, that you can work with any non-rich-text text editor (eg: notepad, notepad++, scite, etc). Also, rails is not necessary for sass, but you'll likely find the most documentation (and community members) relating the two.
PPS: Emacs navigation keys are neat once you get them into muscle memory. I navigate most text fields in os x with them.
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 8:37 PM, DogBot <alejo.col...@gmail.com> wrote: > I know that is really vulgar. Sorry. But this is the first time in my > life I have ever said that so many times as I try to understand > something new.
> It all starts when I see this cool video about coding for blueprint. A > framework ...Compass......The idea rocks! so Im like..lets get > this..but then it says I need SASS...hmmm ok...another framework??? > hmmm WTF...fine lets get that too!! wait..IT says that I need > Haml..WTF??? ok what is that...dont know..another > framework...ok ...fine...let's get that too.....WAIT...it runs on > Ruby??huh? WTF??? ok lets see what that is all about....hmmm..a > programming language!!!WTF!!!...not for windows..WTF!!!!.kinda for > macs..WTF..but hey It has a WIN distribution after all..ok lets get > that..the instructions are like "just ruby install/done" WTF??? > where??? I download install a webpage opens..it's effing broken..where > do I put "ruby install/done"..after a day I figure out I have to use > windows command promt!!! WTF!!!!
> ok this this ruby is finally working..it like a server or something, > WTF..it is running..now I need a GEM??WTF!!!!! something about Ruby on > Rails..multiple versions some older that others I am getting a massive > headache.......
> back to the haml site one way or another it seems I need something > called EMACS..WTF..!!!!! I dare you to install it and see how many > WTFsss you will say....it's like some text editor that is so smart > that you dont use the mouse dont even use the cursor keys..if you want > to go back one character you hit control then B!!! Brilliant!!! two > random keys instead of one with an arrow!!!!WWWTTTFFFF!! ok I might > not need this crap.... lost a day learning to use the Rubik cube of > text editors. back to haml. back to sass. back to compass.
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Ok I am an idiot..and was getting overwhelmed but for the benefit of the few others like me here it is: 1. the ruby site: even though the very first item on the main menu says "downloads"..(I just noticed that) somehow that is not where I looked (home is generally there) and there is no other download on that page except for something about the latest release which is a zip file that I did not know not what to do with. somehow most of the help I found hat to do with Macs. Still after i figured out how to install it..nothing happens..there is no interface, or programming environment..I was lost..so I fugured I trace back and just install everything..First stop Haml: Quote:"Most people will just want the standard stable Haml gem. To install this:
sudo gem install haml"
Tha is all it says...I started on google and found that the developer of Haml uses emacs or maintains a hmls related script for it, but it sounded like this was the ticket perhaps were "sudo gem install haml" turns out is just a bunch of snippets for a text editor from hell.
I am now at a complete and absolute loss as to where to put the magic phrase "sudo gem install haml" and my personal holy grail:"sudo gem install compass" and even then..I KNOW I will be staring at an empty screen in the knowledge that like ruby..it is there..in my computer waiting for my clever commands that will never come as I have no idea where to put them!!!!
I would normally assume that you at least know HTML and CSS (therefore your interest in BluePrint in the first place), but after reading your post I'm not so sure. I did find it funny though, albeit in a sad sort of way, kind of like watching a puppy mistakenly eat its own poop. Now *that* makes me say WTF?!
Good luck.
G
PS - Did you pick the HAML google group for your WTF post randomly out of the five plus frameworks and tools that baffled you? I'm sure these guys would have enjoyed your WTF post as well:
I do make websites for a living, some with some pretty nifty functionality but I do it mostly without too much knowledge of the "guts" of the technology, I get it done on the brains of geniouses who have developed such nifty tools that brain dead guys like me can just ride for an easy paycheck! Why did I pick this forum?..well at some random point I felt I just needed to vent in an angry non-productive but highly satisfying way. Actualy my post started out as:
where do I put this command: sudo gem install haml Thank you
Then I added WTF somwhere and well....I feel kind of embarrassed now...
Still my original question remains:where do I put "sudo gem install haml"? Ruby is installed on my machine...I am pretty sure.
Hey dude, I don't get half that either. Luckily I had a developer sitting next to me the entire time, walking me through it - worth every minute. Also I'm on osx, which solves half the problems you've hit. It is a problem for those of us without unix/dev experience - and a result of this still being a fairly young tool.
I would love to see more docs that don't assume I know my way around the command line. At this point I'm starting to learn, but it is a rather large and unnecessary barrier to the community up-front. I think that issue's been discussed around here plenty, and probably doesn't need a lot of re-hashing.
Cheers all, -e
On Jan 18, 8:54 pm, Glenn Rempe <gl...@rempe.us> wrote:
> I would normally assume that you at least know HTML and CSS (therefore > your interest in BluePrint in the first place), but after reading your > post I'm not so sure. I did find it funny though, albeit in a sad > sort of way, kind of like watching a puppy mistakenly eat its own > poop. Now *that* makes me say WTF?!
> Good luck.
> G
> PS - Did you pick the HAML google group for your WTF post randomly out > of the five plus frameworks and tools that baffled you? I'm sure > these guys would have enjoyed your WTF post as well:
If it doesnt work, then fix your local ruby installation so rubygems is available. If it works, then you're one step closer on a still very long path to understanding what you truly seek.
On a related topic, the whole "sudo gem" thing. I've come around recently to the idea that is a big mistake whenever anyone runs "sudo gem" anything. Lets get the docs fixed up... no more needlessly encouraging "sudo gem" to people! RVM has turned me over to the joys of having nice portable user level gem installations.
> I do make websites for a living, some with some pretty nifty > functionality but I do it mostly without too much knowledge of the > "guts" of the technology, I get it done on the brains of geniouses who > have developed such nifty tools that brain dead guys like me can just > ride for an easy paycheck! Why did I pick this forum?..well at some > random point I felt I just needed to vent in an angry non-productive > but highly satisfying way. > Actualy my post started out as:
> where do I put this command: > sudo gem install haml > Thank you
> Then I added WTF somwhere and well....I feel kind of embarrassed > now...
> Still my original question remains:where do I put "sudo gem install > haml"? > Ruby is installed on my machine...I am pretty sure.
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You put `sudo gem install haml` in your Command Prompt. If you're on Vista or Windows 7, you just start typing "CMD" into your start menu. If you're on XP, click start -> run.
Take "sudo" off though, that's a UNIX/Linux thing. So just use `gem install haml`.
As a warning, your mileage may vary on Windows. I have no idea how much effort has been rolled into supporting Windows. I ended up using Cygwin when I needed to use Haml/Sass in a Windows environment, but that was a few years ago.
I hope that helps, but I'm equally convinced that you're actually looking for Blueprint, and not Compass, Haml or Sass.
Keep reading and learning, it's a pretty steep incline for someone unfamiliar with the tools, but it's totally worth it. Good luck!
> I do make websites for a living, some with some pretty nifty > functionality but I do it mostly without too much knowledge of the > "guts" of the technology, I get it done on the brains of geniouses who > have developed such nifty tools that brain dead guys like me can just > ride for an easy paycheck! Why did I pick this forum?..well at some > random point I felt I just needed to vent in an angry non-productive > but highly satisfying way. > Actualy my post started out as:
> where do I put this command: > sudo gem install haml > Thank you
> Then I added WTF somwhere and well....I feel kind of embarrassed > now...
> Still my original question remains:where do I put "sudo gem install > haml"? > Ruby is installed on my machine...I am pretty sure.
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I finally figured this out.No need for further responses. Nathan thanks for you calm and professionalism in the face of a ranting lunatic it helped me retrace my steps and along with the perspective provided by Bradley I did not let the material overwhelm me.
You are right Glenn I do not need any of this for my aims, I am already developing with blueprint and that also made me less anxious.
So suddenly I got it and now I have compass!!!! It might have been random but I'm glad i picked this group to rant.
I'm a bit late to the party here. This has been a fascinating thread and a great insight into a user's first-time experience with both Ruby and Haml/Sass/Compass. DogBot, I found your original post a genuine laugh out loud read. I think we've all felt like that over the years. I remember trying to work out how to build a form mailer way back in the mid-90's. I'd barely grasped HTML and there I was faced with this mishmash of complex sounding weirdness such as "CGI", "Sendmail", "Perl", "Server Site Scripting"... Ah, I remember the pain well. It took a while, but I got the hang of most of it in the end (not Perl, mind; I ended up using ASP classic, because I found that I was on a Windows server, not Unix.)
So anyway, I'd just like to confirm here that Haml/Sass/Compass and the vast majority of other Ruby tools run absolutely fine on Windows. There is a tendency within the Ruby community to assume a user is on *nix or Mac; it's definitely a scene dominated by non-Windows platforms. But, despite that bias, Ruby works extremely well on Windows, particularly with the new RubyInstaller (see below). You just have to remember to ignore "sudo" when you're confronted with a command like "sudo gem install haml". FYI, sudo is somewhat akin to triggering UAC on Vista/Windows 7; however, you don't need to have admin privileges to install gems on Windows and therefore you can just run "gem install haml" from the command line.
I help out with the RubyInstaller project, which aims to provide an easy-to-use and intuitive installer for Ruby on Windows and also improve compatibility. Unfortunately, it's not had a major public release yet. Here's the temporary website:
You may have already used the RubyInstaller, but if you haven't I'd encourage you to try it. It comes with Ruby itself, plus some documentation and a shortcut to the command line you need to run in order to 'access' Ruby. There's also an equally friendly mailing list (linked on the site). Questions specific to Ruby on Windows are always welcomed there, and we especially welcome feedback on the whole RubyInstaller experience.
Just be sure to stick to version 1.8 for now. Version 1.9 still has many gems that don't work, so it's best to avoid that for the time being, unless you really know you need it.
Regarding editors for Ruby on Windows, I recommend E Text Editor or Notepad++. E is particularly good for working with Sass/Compass/Haml because it has syntax highlighting (called Bundles) you can easily download from within the application.
Actually, I feel kinda responsible for this. Months ago I wrote to the group with a similar (though less funny) story. I too felt that the docs had too many non-explicit prerequisites to be read *and understood* properly. So I volunteered to improve the UX aspect of the documentation, or so to speak. I then created the "Haml Training Group" list, and began sketching, but abandoned the project almost immediately due to very impelling personal reasons. Sorry about that, DogBot! I'm pretty sure that you would have suffered a lot less had I followed thru.
And thanks for your email! It shows the need is still there. So I pledge to pick up the work in February...
My apologies and appreciation to all of you,
Chepi
@charlesroper: Great links!
Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Charles Roper <reac...@charlesroper.co.uk>wrote:
> I'm a bit late to the party here. This has been a fascinating thread > and a great insight into a user's first-time experience with both Ruby > and Haml/Sass/Compass. DogBot, I found your original post a genuine > laugh out loud read. I think we've all felt like that over the years. > I remember trying to work out how to build a form mailer way back in > the mid-90's. I'd barely grasped HTML and there I was faced with this > mishmash of complex sounding weirdness such as "CGI", "Sendmail", > "Perl", "Server Site Scripting"... Ah, I remember the pain well. It > took a while, but I got the hang of most of it in the end (not Perl, > mind; I ended up using ASP classic, because I found that I was on a > Windows server, not Unix.)
> So anyway, I'd just like to confirm here that Haml/Sass/Compass and > the vast majority of other Ruby tools run absolutely fine on Windows. > There is a tendency within the Ruby community to assume a user is on > *nix or Mac; it's definitely a scene dominated by non-Windows > platforms. But, despite that bias, Ruby works extremely well on > Windows, particularly with the new RubyInstaller (see below). You just > have to remember to ignore "sudo" when you're confronted with a > command like "sudo gem install haml". FYI, sudo is somewhat akin to > triggering UAC on Vista/Windows 7; however, you don't need to have > admin privileges to install gems on Windows and therefore you can just > run "gem install haml" from the command line.
> I help out with the RubyInstaller project, which aims to provide an > easy-to-use and intuitive installer for Ruby on Windows and also > improve compatibility. Unfortunately, it's not had a major public > release yet. Here's the temporary website:
> You may have already used the RubyInstaller, but if you haven't I'd > encourage you to try it. It comes with Ruby itself, plus some > documentation and a shortcut to the command line you need to run in > order to 'access' Ruby. There's also an equally friendly mailing list > (linked on the site). Questions specific to Ruby on Windows are always > welcomed there, and we especially welcome feedback on the whole > RubyInstaller experience.
> Just be sure to stick to version 1.8 for now. Version 1.9 still has > many gems that don't work, so it's best to avoid that for the time > being, unless you really know you need it.
> Regarding editors for Ruby on Windows, I recommend E Text Editor or > Notepad++. E is particularly good for working with Sass/Compass/Haml > because it has syntax highlighting (called Bundles) you can easily > download from within the application.
> The nice thing about RubyMine is that Sass support is built in, so I > think you can just install it and get going.
> Give me a shout if you need any further Windows specific help. :)
> Charles
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It needs more tweaking... but I can basically only blow today on it. Aka, I'm taking patches from forks!
Its split between JS and Ruby and HTML. So, yeah... good skills to have.
Built off Appcelerator and so you can go grab that if you want to play with it.
It polls every second right now in all of the directories that you have added and looks for changes.
Stuff to do:
* Store the folders so that if you close the app, they will come back * Improve the growl messages * Fix the crash that happens with two folders * Give a decent notice when the sass file doesn't compile correctly.
The "Update" button is just there for people who are debugging stuff and want to *know* it got updated.
> Actually, I feel kinda responsible for this. Months ago I wrote to the > group with a similar (though less funny) story. I too felt that the docs had > too many non-explicit prerequisites to be read *and understood* properly. > So I volunteered to improve the UX aspect of the documentation, or so to > speak. > I then created the "Haml Training Group" list, and began sketching, but > abandoned the project almost immediately due to very impelling personal > reasons. Sorry about that, DogBot! I'm pretty sure that you would have > suffered a lot less had I followed thru.
> And thanks for your email! It shows the need is still there. So I pledge to > pick up the work in February...
> My apologies and appreciation to all of you,
> Chepi
> @charlesroper: Great links!
> Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Charles Roper <reac...@charlesroper.co.uk>wrote:
>> I'm a bit late to the party here. This has been a fascinating thread >> and a great insight into a user's first-time experience with both Ruby >> and Haml/Sass/Compass. DogBot, I found your original post a genuine >> laugh out loud read. I think we've all felt like that over the years. >> I remember trying to work out how to build a form mailer way back in >> the mid-90's. I'd barely grasped HTML and there I was faced with this >> mishmash of complex sounding weirdness such as "CGI", "Sendmail", >> "Perl", "Server Site Scripting"... Ah, I remember the pain well. It >> took a while, but I got the hang of most of it in the end (not Perl, >> mind; I ended up using ASP classic, because I found that I was on a >> Windows server, not Unix.)
>> So anyway, I'd just like to confirm here that Haml/Sass/Compass and >> the vast majority of other Ruby tools run absolutely fine on Windows. >> There is a tendency within the Ruby community to assume a user is on >> *nix or Mac; it's definitely a scene dominated by non-Windows >> platforms. But, despite that bias, Ruby works extremely well on >> Windows, particularly with the new RubyInstaller (see below). You just >> have to remember to ignore "sudo" when you're confronted with a >> command like "sudo gem install haml". FYI, sudo is somewhat akin to >> triggering UAC on Vista/Windows 7; however, you don't need to have >> admin privileges to install gems on Windows and therefore you can just >> run "gem install haml" from the command line.
>> I help out with the RubyInstaller project, which aims to provide an >> easy-to-use and intuitive installer for Ruby on Windows and also >> improve compatibility. Unfortunately, it's not had a major public >> release yet. Here's the temporary website:
>> You may have already used the RubyInstaller, but if you haven't I'd >> encourage you to try it. It comes with Ruby itself, plus some >> documentation and a shortcut to the command line you need to run in >> order to 'access' Ruby. There's also an equally friendly mailing list >> (linked on the site). Questions specific to Ruby on Windows are always >> welcomed there, and we especially welcome feedback on the whole >> RubyInstaller experience.
>> Just be sure to stick to version 1.8 for now. Version 1.9 still has >> many gems that don't work, so it's best to avoid that for the time >> being, unless you really know you need it.
>> Regarding editors for Ruby on Windows, I recommend E Text Editor or >> Notepad++. E is particularly good for working with Sass/Compass/Haml >> because it has syntax highlighting (called Bundles) you can easily >> download from within the application.
>> The nice thing about RubyMine is that Sass support is built in, so I >> think you can just install it and get going.
>> Give me a shout if you need any further Windows specific help. :)
>> Charles
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Related: did you happen to see the Rendera project someone put up on Heroku? It lets a user play with Haml and Sass right in their web browser and see the results pretty quickly.
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Hampton <hcat...@gmail.com> wrote: > Guess what people?
> After this message, I have spent the entire day (its GMT here.. so its > evening) > making a GUI for Sass for people who don't want to deal with Ruby.
> It needs more tweaking... but I can basically only blow today on it. Aka, > I'm > taking patches from forks!
> Its split between JS and Ruby and HTML. So, yeah... good skills to have.
> Built off Appcelerator and so you can go grab that if you want to play with > it.
> It polls every second right now in all of the directories that you have > added > and looks for changes.
> Stuff to do:
> * Store the folders so that if you close the app, they will come back > * Improve the growl messages > * Fix the crash that happens with two folders > * Give a decent notice when the sass file doesn't compile correctly.
> The "Update" button is just there for people who are debugging stuff > and want to *know* it got updated.
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Enrique Gimenez <chepi.gime...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> Late as well! Time zones I guess...
>> Actually, I feel kinda responsible for this. Months ago I wrote to the >> group with a similar (though less funny) story. I too felt that the docs had >> too many non-explicit prerequisites to be read *and understood* properly. >> So I volunteered to improve the UX aspect of the documentation, or so to >> speak. >> I then created the "Haml Training Group" list, and began sketching, but >> abandoned the project almost immediately due to very impelling personal >> reasons. Sorry about that, DogBot! I'm pretty sure that you would have >> suffered a lot less had I followed thru.
>> And thanks for your email! It shows the need is still there. So I pledge >> to pick up the work in February...
>> My apologies and appreciation to all of you,
>> Chepi
>> @charlesroper: Great links!
>> Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Charles Roper <reac...@charlesroper.co.uk>wrote:
>>> I'm a bit late to the party here. This has been a fascinating thread >>> and a great insight into a user's first-time experience with both Ruby >>> and Haml/Sass/Compass. DogBot, I found your original post a genuine >>> laugh out loud read. I think we've all felt like that over the years. >>> I remember trying to work out how to build a form mailer way back in >>> the mid-90's. I'd barely grasped HTML and there I was faced with this >>> mishmash of complex sounding weirdness such as "CGI", "Sendmail", >>> "Perl", "Server Site Scripting"... Ah, I remember the pain well. It >>> took a while, but I got the hang of most of it in the end (not Perl, >>> mind; I ended up using ASP classic, because I found that I was on a >>> Windows server, not Unix.)
>>> So anyway, I'd just like to confirm here that Haml/Sass/Compass and >>> the vast majority of other Ruby tools run absolutely fine on Windows. >>> There is a tendency within the Ruby community to assume a user is on >>> *nix or Mac; it's definitely a scene dominated by non-Windows >>> platforms. But, despite that bias, Ruby works extremely well on >>> Windows, particularly with the new RubyInstaller (see below). You just >>> have to remember to ignore "sudo" when you're confronted with a >>> command like "sudo gem install haml". FYI, sudo is somewhat akin to >>> triggering UAC on Vista/Windows 7; however, you don't need to have >>> admin privileges to install gems on Windows and therefore you can just >>> run "gem install haml" from the command line.
>>> I help out with the RubyInstaller project, which aims to provide an >>> easy-to-use and intuitive installer for Ruby on Windows and also >>> improve compatibility. Unfortunately, it's not had a major public >>> release yet. Here's the temporary website:
>>> You may have already used the RubyInstaller, but if you haven't I'd >>> encourage you to try it. It comes with Ruby itself, plus some >>> documentation and a shortcut to the command line you need to run in >>> order to 'access' Ruby. There's also an equally friendly mailing list >>> (linked on the site). Questions specific to Ruby on Windows are always >>> welcomed there, and we especially welcome feedback on the whole >>> RubyInstaller experience.
>>> Just be sure to stick to version 1.8 for now. Version 1.9 still has >>> many gems that don't work, so it's best to avoid that for the time >>> being, unless you really know you need it.
>>> Regarding editors for Ruby on Windows, I recommend E Text Editor or >>> Notepad++. E is particularly good for working with Sass/Compass/Haml >>> because it has syntax highlighting (called Bundles) you can easily >>> download from within the application.
>>> The nice thing about RubyMine is that Sass support is built in, so I >>> think you can just install it and get going.
>>> Give me a shout if you need any further Windows specific help. :)
>>> Charles
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When is Sass going to merit beings it's own github project and it's own bundled gem? It seems that now with SCSS coming out the compilers will have nothing in common (except for backwards compatibility)
> It needs more tweaking... but I can basically only blow today on it. Aka, I'm > taking patches from forks!
> Its split between JS and Ruby and HTML. So, yeah... good skills to have.
> Built off Appcelerator and so you can go grab that if you want to play with it.
> It polls every second right now in all of the directories that you have added > and looks for changes.
> Stuff to do:
> * Store the folders so that if you close the app, they will come back > * Improve the growl messages > * Fix the crash that happens with two folders > * Give a decent notice when the sass file doesn't compile correctly.
> The "Update" button is just there for people who are debugging stuff > and want to *know* it got updated.
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Enrique Gimenez <chepi.gime...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
> Late as well! Time zones I guess...
> Actually, I feel kinda responsible for this. Months ago I wrote to the group with a similar (though less funny) story. I too felt that the docs had too many non-explicit prerequisites to be read and understood properly. So I volunteered to improve the UX aspect of the documentation, or so to speak. > I then created the "Haml Training Group" list, and began sketching, but abandoned the project almost immediately due to very impelling personal reasons. Sorry about that, DogBot! I'm pretty sure that you would have suffered a lot less had I followed thru.
> And thanks for your email! It shows the need is still there. So I pledge to pick up the work in February...
> My apologies and appreciation to all of you,
> Chepi
> @charlesroper: Great links!
> Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Charles Roper <reac...@charlesroper.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm a bit late to the party here. This has been a fascinating thread > and a great insight into a user's first-time experience with both Ruby > and Haml/Sass/Compass. DogBot, I found your original post a genuine > laugh out loud read. I think we've all felt like that over the years. > I remember trying to work out how to build a form mailer way back in > the mid-90's. I'd barely grasped HTML and there I was faced with this > mishmash of complex sounding weirdness such as "CGI", "Sendmail", > "Perl", "Server Site Scripting"... Ah, I remember the pain well. It > took a while, but I got the hang of most of it in the end (not Perl, > mind; I ended up using ASP classic, because I found that I was on a > Windows server, not Unix.)
> So anyway, I'd just like to confirm here that Haml/Sass/Compass and > the vast majority of other Ruby tools run absolutely fine on Windows. > There is a tendency within the Ruby community to assume a user is on > *nix or Mac; it's definitely a scene dominated by non-Windows > platforms. But, despite that bias, Ruby works extremely well on > Windows, particularly with the new RubyInstaller (see below). You just > have to remember to ignore "sudo" when you're confronted with a > command like "sudo gem install haml". FYI, sudo is somewhat akin to > triggering UAC on Vista/Windows 7; however, you don't need to have > admin privileges to install gems on Windows and therefore you can just > run "gem install haml" from the command line.
> I help out with the RubyInstaller project, which aims to provide an > easy-to-use and intuitive installer for Ruby on Windows and also > improve compatibility. Unfortunately, it's not had a major public > release yet. Here's the temporary website:
> You may have already used the RubyInstaller, but if you haven't I'd > encourage you to try it. It comes with Ruby itself, plus some > documentation and a shortcut to the command line you need to run in > order to 'access' Ruby. There's also an equally friendly mailing list > (linked on the site). Questions specific to Ruby on Windows are always > welcomed there, and we especially welcome feedback on the whole > RubyInstaller experience.
> Just be sure to stick to version 1.8 for now. Version 1.9 still has > many gems that don't work, so it's best to avoid that for the time > being, unless you really know you need it.
> Regarding editors for Ruby on Windows, I recommend E Text Editor or > Notepad++. E is particularly good for working with Sass/Compass/Haml > because it has syntax highlighting (called Bundles) you can easily > download from within the application.
> The nice thing about RubyMine is that Sass support is built in, so I > think you can just install it and get going.
> Give me a shout if you need any further Windows specific help. :)
> Charles
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Thank you all for the input, It turns out I had some problems after i annonced I was ok. I decided to just scratch the whole thing and go with Charles suggestions. Pretty good! I got the e editor too (having small problems not in the scope of this forum) But overall I have made my first project and feeling good about it.
I was thinking of writing a newbie's guide now that the horror is fresh in my mind so Enrique if you need some help let me know.
I laughed when I read Hampton's email. I thought cool! lets get this..wait..I need Appcelerator ..what is that? well you know what came next!!! ha ha ha
Cool community you all got here, I think I will stick around. I just discovered the Compass group..still glad I posted here. Jacques, Erin and Lorin, very helpful stuff, thanks
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:16 PM, DogBot <alejo.col...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you all for the input, It turns out I had some problems after i > annonced I was ok. I decided to just scratch the whole thing and go > with Charles suggestions. Pretty good! I got the e editor too (having > small problems not in the scope of this forum) > But overall I have made my first project and feeling good about it.
> I was thinking of writing a newbie's guide now that the horror is > fresh in my mind so Enrique if you need some help let me know.
> I laughed when I read Hampton's email. I thought cool! lets get > this..wait..I need Appcelerator ..what is that? well you know what > came next!!! ha ha ha
> Cool community you all got here, I think I will stick around. I just > discovered the Compass group..still glad I posted here. > Jacques, Erin and Lorin, very helpful stuff, thanks
> Alex > Dogbot.info
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> It would be like... just a regular windows application!
> NO DEPENDENCIES.
> Promise.
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:16 PM, DogBot <alejo.col...@gmail.com> > wrote: > Thank you all for the input, It turns out I had some problems after i > annonced I was ok. I decided to just scratch the whole thing and go > with Charles suggestions. Pretty good! I got the e editor too (having > small problems not in the scope of this forum) > But overall I have made my first project and feeling good about it.
> I was thinking of writing a newbie's guide now that the horror is > fresh in my mind so Enrique if you need some help let me know.
> I laughed when I read Hampton's email. I thought cool! lets get > this..wait..I need Appcelerator ..what is that? well you know what > came next!!! ha ha ha
> Cool community you all got here, I think I will stick around. I just > discovered the Compass group..still glad I posted here. > Jacques, Erin and Lorin, very helpful stuff, thanks
> Alex > Dogbot.info
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you know Hampton, I don't get this git thing..I just click everywhere...nothing downloads I keep getting pages with code. Same thing with some text editors I'm trying.... the haml/sass/compass higligting/coding etc are in this github but for the life of me I cannot figure how to download anything from there.
I don't know what happened all of a sudden..i was happy, designing, programming, Livin la vida HTML..when all of a sudden I am a frickin dinosaur..overnight!! is like I was in a damn cave or something. For the past three days I feel like my mom must feel in front of an ATM..you know it must be damm easy, a little kid just walked up and got money, but you just stare not knowing even what question to ask.....except I don have a teller to give hell to....
DogBot..Should change username to Old DogBot (stressing with the new tricks)
On Jan 19, 5:26 pm, Hampton <hcat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It would be like... just a regular windows application!
> NO DEPENDENCIES.
> Promise.
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:16 PM, DogBot <alejo.col...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you all for the input, It turns out I had some problems after i > > annonced I was ok. I decided to just scratch the whole thing and go > > with Charles suggestions. Pretty good! I got the e editor too (having > > small problems not in the scope of this forum) > > But overall I have made my first project and feeling good about it.
> > I was thinking of writing a newbie's guide now that the horror is > > fresh in my mind so Enrique if you need some help let me know.
> > I laughed when I read Hampton's email. I thought cool! lets get > > this..wait..I need Appcelerator ..what is that? well you know what > > came next!!! ha ha ha
> > Cool community you all got here, I think I will stick around. I just > > discovered the Compass group..still glad I posted here. > > Jacques, Erin and Lorin, very helpful stuff, thanks
> > Alex > > Dogbot.info
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On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:44 PM, DogBot <alejo.col...@gmail.com> wrote: > you know Hampton, I don't get this git thing..I just click > everywhere...nothing downloads I keep getting pages with code. Same > thing with some text editors I'm trying.... the haml/sass/compass > higligting/coding etc are in this github but for the life of me I > cannot figure how to download anything from there.
> I don't know what happened all of a sudden..i was happy, designing, > programming, Livin la vida HTML..when all of a sudden I am a frickin > dinosaur..overnight!! is like I was in a damn cave or something. For > the past three days I feel like my mom must feel in front of an > ATM..you know it must be damm easy, a little kid just walked up and > got money, but you just stare not knowing even what question to > ask.....except I don have a teller to give hell to....
> DogBot..Should change username to Old DogBot (stressing with the new > tricks)
> On Jan 19, 5:26 pm, Hampton <hcat...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Its ok DogBot. Appcelerate is just a bundler.
>> It would be like... just a regular windows application!
>> NO DEPENDENCIES.
>> Promise.
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:16 PM, DogBot <alejo.col...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Thank you all for the input, It turns out I had some problems after i >> > annonced I was ok. I decided to just scratch the whole thing and go >> > with Charles suggestions. Pretty good! I got the e editor too (having >> > small problems not in the scope of this forum) >> > But overall I have made my first project and feeling good about it.
>> > I was thinking of writing a newbie's guide now that the horror is >> > fresh in my mind so Enrique if you need some help let me know.
>> > I laughed when I read Hampton's email. I thought cool! lets get >> > this..wait..I need Appcelerator ..what is that? well you know what >> > came next!!! ha ha ha
>> > Cool community you all got here, I think I will stick around. I just >> > discovered the Compass group..still glad I posted here. >> > Jacques, Erin and Lorin, very helpful stuff, thanks
>> > Alex >> > Dogbot.info
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> Same > thing with some text editors I'm trying.... the haml/sass/compass > higligting/coding etc are in this github but for the life of me I > cannot figure how to download anything from there.
DogBot, if you're using E Text Editor, select the Bundles menu, then Edit Bundles > Manage Bundles. Look for Ruby Sass, click on it, then click Install.
You might need to manually switch to Sass syntax mode: Edit > Syntax > Ruby Sass (or hit Alt-Win-Shift-S).
Your Sass code should now be highlighted. You might want to choose a different colour scheme (Theme) too: Edit > Edit Theme. I recommend DobDark, which is my own custom theme and is tailored to HTML/CSS/Ruby/Sass/Haml in particular, although it works well with most others such as PHP.
Charles P.S. I've just realised I haven't uploaded a Haml bundle to the bundles manager (I mostly get my stuff directly from Github). If you like, I'll add a Haml bundle ... ?
Thanks Noel, WTF indeed. But I get git now. Truly thanks. After another hour of screencasts (I dont'watch TV anymore, just the Command Line channel) I realized that what I needed to start with was the "git for windows"(hint: is mentioned in the learn git page but alas no link..that would be too easy) In the process I also learned about SVN and tortoise (something else that had me vexed for other semi-related reasons)and marveled at the irony of the large amount of codes, languages and secret handshakes I now have learned to avoid coding (that was the point of getting Compass in the first place..lazyness). Oh well, at least I don't feel so much like a dad crashing his son's frat party anymore.
Charles that was INCREDIBLY helpful. Instant gratification. Closest thing to nerd porn in a long time. Love dobdark, I want to make a website based on that scheme. In fact I am going to make an insignificant change to the scheme an call it dogbark
Hampton..dude...I got the your stuff from git. Its a bunch of files. I click on all of them..nothing happens (one launches e-text in XML mode) Sounds like you worked hard on it and it is very cool so I'd like to make the effort. Do I need apcelerator? and if so. could you give me a step-by-step? remember to speak to me as if I was that Japanese guy who was hiding in the jungle since WW2.
DogBot
On Jan 20, 2:51 am, Charles Roper <reac...@charlesroper.co.uk> wrote:
> > Same > > thing with some text editors I'm trying.... the haml/sass/compass > > higligting/coding etc are in this github but for the life of me I > > cannot figure how to download anything from there.
> DogBot, if you're using E Text Editor, select the Bundles menu, then > Edit Bundles > Manage Bundles. Look for Ruby Sass, click on it, then > click Install.
> You might need to manually switch to Sass syntax mode: Edit > Syntax > > Ruby Sass (or hit Alt-Win-Shift-S).
> Your Sass code should now be highlighted. You might want to choose a > different colour scheme (Theme) too: Edit > Edit Theme. I recommend > DobDark, which is my own custom theme and is tailored to > HTML/CSS/Ruby/Sass/Haml in particular, although it works well with > most others such as PHP.
> Charles > P.S. I've just realised I haven't uploaded a Haml bundle to the > bundles manager (I mostly get my stuff directly from Github). If you > like, I'll add a Haml bundle ... ?
> Thanks Noel, > WTF indeed. But I get git now. Truly thanks. After another hour of > screencasts (I dont'watch TV anymore, just the Command Line channel) I > realized that what I needed to start with was the "git for > windows"(hint: is mentioned in the learn git page but alas no > link..that would be too easy) In the process I also learned about SVN > and tortoise (something else that had me vexed for other semi-related > reasons)and marveled at the irony of the large amount of codes, > languages and secret handshakes I now have learned to avoid coding > (that was the point of getting Compass in the first place..lazyness). > Oh well, at least I don't feel so much like a dad crashing his son's > frat party anymore.
> Charles that was INCREDIBLY helpful. Instant gratification. Closest > thing to nerd porn in a long time. Love dobdark, I want to make a > website based on that scheme. In fact I am going to make an > insignificant change to the scheme an call it dogbark
> Hampton..dude...I got the your stuff from git. Its a bunch of files. I > click on all of them..nothing happens (one launches e-text in XML > mode) Sounds like you worked hard on it and it is very cool so I'd > like to make the effort. Do I need apcelerator? and if so. could you > give me a step-by-step? remember to speak to me as if I was that > Japanese guy who was hiding in the jungle since WW2.
> DogBot
> On Jan 20, 2:51 am, Charles Roper <reac...@charlesroper.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Same > > > thing with some text editors I'm trying.... the haml/sass/compass > > > higligting/coding etc are in this github but for the life of me I > > > cannot figure how to download anything from there.
> > DogBot, if you're using E Text Editor, select the Bundles menu, then > > Edit Bundles > Manage Bundles. Look for Ruby Sass, click on it, then > > click Install.
> > You might need to manually switch to Sass syntax mode: Edit > Syntax > > > Ruby Sass (or hit Alt-Win-Shift-S).
> > Your Sass code should now be highlighted. You might want to choose a > > different colour scheme (Theme) too: Edit > Edit Theme. I recommend > > DobDark, which is my own custom theme and is tailored to > > HTML/CSS/Ruby/Sass/Haml in particular, although it works well with > > most others such as PHP.
> > Charles > > P.S. I've just realised I haven't uploaded a Haml bundle to the > > bundles manager (I mostly get my stuff directly from Github). If you > > like, I'll add a Haml bundle ... ?
DogBot, instead of learning how to use the tools on Windows, you could spend your time installing Linux and learning the Command Line. Then you can follow all the *nix documentation.
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:49 PM, DogBot <alejo.col...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hampton..never mind..i did it I compiled it.got it running cool tool > thanks.
> Dogbot
> On Jan 20, 3:20 pm, DogBot <alejo.col...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks Noel, > > WTF indeed. But I get git now. Truly thanks. After another hour of > > screencasts (I dont'watch TV anymore, just the Command Line channel) I > > realized that what I needed to start with was the "git for > > windows"(hint: is mentioned in the learn git page but alas no > > link..that would be too easy) In the process I also learned about SVN > > and tortoise (something else that had me vexed for other semi-related > > reasons)and marveled at the irony of the large amount of codes, > > languages and secret handshakes I now have learned to avoid coding > > (that was the point of getting Compass in the first place..lazyness). > > Oh well, at least I don't feel so much like a dad crashing his son's > > frat party anymore.
> > Charles that was INCREDIBLY helpful. Instant gratification. Closest > > thing to nerd porn in a long time. Love dobdark, I want to make a > > website based on that scheme. In fact I am going to make an > > insignificant change to the scheme an call it dogbark
> > Hampton..dude...I got the your stuff from git. Its a bunch of files. I > > click on all of them..nothing happens (one launches e-text in XML > > mode) Sounds like you worked hard on it and it is very cool so I'd > > like to make the effort. Do I need apcelerator? and if so. could you > > give me a step-by-step? remember to speak to me as if I was that > > Japanese guy who was hiding in the jungle since WW2.
> > DogBot
> > On Jan 20, 2:51 am, Charles Roper <reac...@charlesroper.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > Same > > > > thing with some text editors I'm trying.... the haml/sass/compass > > > > higligting/coding etc are in this github but for the life of me I > > > > cannot figure how to download anything from there.
> > > DogBot, if you're using E Text Editor, select the Bundles menu, then > > > Edit Bundles > Manage Bundles. Look for Ruby Sass, click on it, then > > > click Install.
> > > You might need to manually switch to Sass syntax mode: Edit > Syntax > > > > Ruby Sass (or hit Alt-Win-Shift-S).
> > > Your Sass code should now be highlighted. You might want to choose a > > > different colour scheme (Theme) too: Edit > Edit Theme. I recommend > > > DobDark, which is my own custom theme and is tailored to > > > HTML/CSS/Ruby/Sass/Haml in particular, although it works well with > > > most others such as PHP.
> > > Charles > > > P.S. I've just realised I haven't uploaded a Haml bundle to the > > > bundles manager (I mostly get my stuff directly from Github). If you > > > like, I'll add a Haml bundle ... ?
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> DogBot, instead of learning how to use the tools on Windows, you could > spend your time installing Linux and learning the Command Line. Then you > can follow all the *nix documentation.
> Just a thought :)
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:49 PM, DogBot <alejo.col...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hampton..never mind..i did it I compiled it.got it running cool tool >> thanks.
>> Dogbot
>> On Jan 20, 3:20 pm, DogBot <alejo.col...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Thanks Noel, >> > WTF indeed. But I get git now. Truly thanks. After another hour of >> > screencasts (I dont'watch TV anymore, just the Command Line channel) I >> > realized that what I needed to start with was the "git for >> > windows"(hint: is mentioned in the learn git page but alas no >> > link..that would be too easy) In the process I also learned about SVN >> > and tortoise (something else that had me vexed for other semi-related >> > reasons)and marveled at the irony of the large amount of codes, >> > languages and secret handshakes I now have learned to avoid coding >> > (that was the point of getting Compass in the first place..lazyness). >> > Oh well, at least I don't feel so much like a dad crashing his son's >> > frat party anymore.
>> > Charles that was INCREDIBLY helpful. Instant gratification. Closest >> > thing to nerd porn in a long time. Love dobdark, I want to make a >> > website based on that scheme. In fact I am going to make an >> > insignificant change to the scheme an call it dogbark
>> > Hampton..dude...I got the your stuff from git. Its a bunch of files. I >> > click on all of them..nothing happens (one launches e-text in XML >> > mode) Sounds like you worked hard on it and it is very cool so I'd >> > like to make the effort. Do I need apcelerator? and if so. could you >> > give me a step-by-step? remember to speak to me as if I was that >> > Japanese guy who was hiding in the jungle since WW2.
>> > DogBot
>> > On Jan 20, 2:51 am, Charles Roper <reac...@charlesroper.co.uk> wrote:
>> > > > Same >> > > > thing with some text editors I'm trying.... the haml/sass/compass >> > > > higligting/coding etc are in this github but for the life of me I >> > > > cannot figure how to download anything from there.
>> > > DogBot, if you're using E Text Editor, select the Bundles menu, then >> > > Edit Bundles > Manage Bundles. Look for Ruby Sass, click on it, then >> > > click Install.
>> > > You might need to manually switch to Sass syntax mode: Edit > Syntax > >> > > Ruby Sass (or hit Alt-Win-Shift-S).
>> > > Your Sass code should now be highlighted. You might want to choose a >> > > different colour scheme (Theme) too: Edit > Edit Theme. I recommend >> > > DobDark, which is my own custom theme and is tailored to >> > > HTML/CSS/Ruby/Sass/Haml in particular, although it works well with >> > > most others such as PHP.
>> > > Charles >> > > P.S. I've just realised I haven't uploaded a Haml bundle to the >> > > bundles manager (I mostly get my stuff directly from Github). If you >> > > like, I'll add a Haml bundle ... ?
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