Learnemy is hiring!

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elisha

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Feb 9, 2012, 9:18:44 AM2/9/12
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Hey guys!

Before I start, here's a picture of a kitty
http://www.learnemy.com/images/cute-kitty.jpg

Good. Now that I have your attention,

Learnemy is hiring a developer and here are 6 reasons why you
should join:

- Learnemy has a purpose for the society
http://www.blog.learnemy.com/kpi/ . I have a big vision.
- You will be treated with respect, and like an adult. No monkeys
around here.
- You get to make key decisions in the startup.
- You get a competitive salary.
- Flexible hours. I respect the maker’s schedule.
- You get to operate like a founder but enjoy the stability of an
employee.

The codes for beta are written in rails, but I'll ditch them for a
suitable python or php developer.

If you are reading this, you probably want to see details of the job.
They are here: http://www.blog.learnemy.com/come-work-on-learnemy/


PS: Kitty dies if there are no replies.

Meng Weng Wong

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Feb 9, 2012, 11:57:40 AM2/9/12
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i'm curious – what do folks think is an appropriate compensation range for a position like this?

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Hey guys!

Jason Ong

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Feb 9, 2012, 8:22:07 PM2/9/12
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@mengweng was that from one of your perl script minions? 




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Mingming Wang

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Feb 9, 2012, 8:46:35 PM2/9/12
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Why switch from rails to python or php? hard to get rails guy here?

(I'm learning rails for my startup idea...)

Stephan February

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Feb 9, 2012, 9:42:03 PM2/9/12
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On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Mingming Wang wrote:

> Why switch from rails to python or php?

My thoughts exactly. The natural move is away from Rails and onto Groovy/Grails ;)

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Stephan

Paul Gallagher

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Feb 9, 2012, 10:54:51 PM2/9/12
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sounds like a perlbot to me ;-)

But it is a good question. I find people's salary expectations are all over the shop. Everything from thinking that "aspiring to 4k" is perfect for developers (surprising, seems many devs put ^themselves^ in this pidgeonhole), to others who are realising we're all competing with a global shortage of good devs, and the sky is the limit.

Immediately makes me think we need some way of crowd-sourcing the community's views and actual experience. There are salary comparison sites out there (like http://www.salary.com/ and http://www.payscale.com/ ) but I haven't really checked them out to see if they have good data on local conditions and the specific job roles we are talking about.

Does anyone know of a suitable salary comparison site? Even if it is short on local data, maybe we can direct a community effort to get the data in. Key for me would be that it needs to represent both sides of the equation - the employer and employee expectations and actual salaries. In the absence of an existing site, maybe unleash a surveymonkey, eek-eek?

Thoughts?

Paul


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Ivan

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Feb 9, 2012, 11:14:21 PM2/9/12
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> Immediately makes me think we need some way of crowd-sourcing the
> community's views and actual experience. There are salary comparison sites
> out there (like http://www.salary.com/ and http://www.payscale.com/ ) but I
> haven't really checked them out to see if they have good data on local
> conditions and the specific job roles we are talking about.

there's also http://www.glassdoor.com/

Jason Ong

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Feb 9, 2012, 11:38:37 PM2/9/12
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Quite a few salary related answers on quora. Maybe Meng's question can/should be listed there?

Zehua Liu

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Feb 10, 2012, 6:17:55 AM2/10/12
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Wille Faler

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Feb 10, 2012, 7:14:18 AM2/10/12
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Unless you need support for IE6, I think, hope and believe the tightly coupled, "full stack" frameworks like Rails, Grails etc will die out eventually and give way to thick browser JS clients pulled from statically served web content, that only interacts to a "dynamic" backend in the shape of JSON over REST, built on top of Sinatra, Scalatra, Jersey/pick your poison..

It's an approach that is far better suited to the type of apps that people expect these days, and it enforces a good architectural style because it is no longer possible to intermingle view logic and business logic, unlike it is in "old school frameworks". Not to mention that client and backend can evolve relatively independently of each other.

There is very little need to spend CPU cycles generating markup when you can let the users browser do it for you..

Just my two cents as we mentioned web frameworks. :)


Stephan

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Tamas Herman

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Feb 11, 2012, 2:31:30 AM2/11/12
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totally +1 for this. very well phrased.
i can only reiterate how great this approach worked for us using angularjs + restful json backend (both with rebol+cheyenne and nodejs+express)
im saying this after dealing with rails/merb/sinatra stuff for a few yrs.

maybe we should come together for an angular + express hacking workshop…
cake, django, rails/sinatra devs should come with examples and we could live code it on the projector.

we can also try to drive the same frontend with each other's backend written in php/python/ruby. how about that? :)

it's really time to step to the next level!

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On Friday, February 10, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Wille Faler wrote:

> Unless you need support for IE6, I think, hope and believe the tightly coupled, "full stack" frameworks like Rails, Grails etc will die out eventually and give way to thick browser JS clients pulled from statically served web content, that only interacts to a "dynamic" backend in the shape of JSON over REST, built on top of Sinatra, Scalatra, Jersey/pick your poison..
>
> It's an approach that is far better suited to the type of apps that people expect these days, and it enforces a good architectural style because it is no longer possible to intermingle view logic and business logic, unlike it is in "old school frameworks". Not to mention that client and backend can evolve relatively independently of each other.
>
> There is very little need to spend CPU cycles generating markup when you can let the users browser do it for you..
>
> Just my two cents as we mentioned web frameworks. :)
>

> On 10 February 2012 02:42, Stephan February <stephan....@gmail.com (mailto:stephan....@gmail.com)> wrote:
> >
> > On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Mingming Wang wrote:
> >
> > > Why switch from rails to python or php?
> >
> > My thoughts exactly. The natural move is away from Rails and onto Groovy/Grails ;)
> >
> > <flamesuit status="on"></flamesuit>
> >
> > Stephan
> >
> > --
> > Chat: http://hackerspace.sg/chat
>
>

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Stephan February

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Feb 11, 2012, 3:08:53 AM2/11/12
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+1 for an angular workshop. Or really any of the next-gen client side tech that will move us forward and release us from the clutches of DOM manipulations.

Stephan

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Ruiwen Chua

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Feb 11, 2012, 4:04:01 AM2/11/12
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+1 for an angular workshop


elisha

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Feb 11, 2012, 7:06:02 AM2/11/12
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@Mingming and Stephan, it's not a switch per se. Rather, it's not to
put off people who may be the right passion/product fit but don't code
in rails. :)

And... +1 for workshop!

How do workshops like this work? Do you guys use an existing app, rip
it apart and build it up or more like building a new thing from
scratch?

On Feb 11, 5:04 pm, Ruiwen Chua <rwc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for an angular workshop
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Stephan February <
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> stephan.febru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > +1 for an angular workshop. Or really any of the next-gen client side tech
> > that will move us forward and release us from the clutches of DOM
> > manipulations.
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> > Stephan
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> > >> On 10 February 2012 02:42, Stephan February <stephan.febru...@gmail.com(mailto:

Tamas Herman

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Feb 11, 2012, 10:21:17 AM2/11/12
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i think if we get together its shape will just form by itself. just start talking, pick someone's specific issue and solve it with angular.
the angular mailing list actually has very good examples of such isolated little problems.
ppl usually post a jsfiddle page which showcases the logic of a technique / trick / pattern.
one latest example: http://jsfiddle.net/bluejade/EnRPc/30/

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On Saturday, February 11, 2012 at 8:06 PM, elisha wrote:

> @Mingming and Stephan, it's not a switch per se. Rather, it's not to
> put off people who may be the right passion/product fit but don't code
> in rails. :)
>
> And... +1 for workshop!
>
> How do workshops like this work? Do you guys use an existing app, rip
> it apart and build it up or more like building a new thing from
> scratch?
>

> > > > > On 10 February 2012 02:42, Stephan February <stephan.febru...@gmail.com (http://gmail.com)(mailto:


> > > stephan.febru...@gmail.com (http://gmail.com))> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > > On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Mingming Wang wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > Why switch from rails to python or php?
> >
> > > > > > My thoughts exactly. The natural move is away from Rails and onto
> > > Groovy/Grails ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > > <flamesuit status="on"></flamesuit>
> >
> > > > > > Stephan
> >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Chat:http://hackerspace.sg/chat
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Chat:http://hackerspace.sg/chat
> > > >
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> >
> >
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Chat:http://hackerspace.sg/chat
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > > --
> > > Chat:http://hackerspace.sg/chat
> >
>
>
>

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elisha

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Feb 16, 2012, 9:13:56 AM2/16/12
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Just in case anyone still reads this,

I realized that perhaps I shouldn't be so concerned if a developer is
based in Singapore or not, since I'll be communicating mainly via
Skype anyway. So yea, friendly programmers in the Southeast Asia (so
our time zone don't differ too much) are welcome to apply for a full
time job with Learnemy.

Repeating myself, Learnemy is hiring a developer and here are 6
reasons why you should join:

- Learnemy has a purpose for the society
http://www.blog.learnemy.com/kpi/ . I have a big vision.
- You will be treated with respect, and like an adult. No monkeys
around here.
- You get to make key decisions in the startup.
- You get a competitive salary.
- Flexible hours. I respect the maker’s schedule.
- You get to operate like a founder but enjoy the stability of an
employee.
The codes for beta are written in rails, but I'll ditch them for a
suitable python or php developer.

If you are reading this, you probably want to see details of the job.
They are here: http://www.blog.learnemy.com/come-work-on-learnemy/

Thanks, guys!

Eli James

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Feb 18, 2012, 12:52:40 AM2/18/12
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