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Subject: Re: [HackerspaceSG] Poll for Explainer Videos
From: chris chong <chris.chonghui...@gmail.com>
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The dcovery app is what I would call a 'demo video' or a 'walk-through
video' - totally different from the first video that Lionel showed. This, I
would spend my money on. Google also tends to churn out similar videos
which help to generate interest. The Dcovery video is just a tad too long
though imo, but then again I've a terribly short attention span on the web.

@ciaran Yup, about 2,000 people. Which is pathetic considering that we have
a few hundred load tests a day!


/Chris





On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jan Detlefsen <
lopsta.ecomme...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> i like those videos when they are well done. for example this one.
> they don't have an app launched yet, so to create interest before
> launch a video is almost the only way i can think of.
>
> http://dcovery.com/
>
> btw, it's a bangkok based startup and i'm very sure they will get a
> lot of attention for this. i'm trying the beta and it's a pretty damn
> well made travel app.
>
>
>
> On 8 August 2012 11:32, chris chong <chris.chonghui...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Can I butt in with my two cents?
> >
> > Honestly, yes, this video is a commercial. It talks about your product
> and
> > what it's good at, but explains nothing about how it actually works (if
> it
> > did, then I'd start calling it an infomercial). So I'd say this is more
> like
> > a teaser commercial than anything.
> >
> > These types of video things are sort of the buzz right now, and lots of
> tech
> > companies are trying to do these to 'dumb down' their product. Even my
> > company has made one that gives a snapshot of our entire system, and tbh,
> > considering we've only had about 2000+ views in the last 9 mths or so,
> I'm
> > not sure how many people actually watch these things.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I've no idea how much we paid for these videos, but they
> were
> > done in Sweden. I'm not so sure the price was worth the time of the
> creators
> > though, because I know these video things take lots of time to make...
> >
> > Cheers
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Benjamin Scherrey <proteus...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> How is that not a commercial? :-P It's the medium not the message that
> >> bugs me.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Lionel Online <lionel.onl...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thks for r feedback Ben
> >>>
> >>> But what if it's not a commercial
> >>> But rather-a video that explains what yr startup does-esp those that
> need
> >>> just that bit of elaboration for e masses to get what they're
> doing/trying
> >>> to do?
> >>>
> >>> Rdgs, Lionel
> >>>
> >>> On 8 Aug, 2012, at 1:19 AM, Benjamin Scherrey <proteus...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Let me preface this with my standard disclaimer - "I'm not anyone's
> >>> demographic." If I buy a brand of toothpaste or shampoo you can be
> certain
> >>> that it will be discontinued soon afterwards. Don't base your market
> >>> decisions on my personal preferences.
> >>>
> >>> That out of the way...
> >>>
> >>> I hate video commercials like these. I never want to watch them and I'm
> >>> annoyed when people push them at me. I have a client that paid some
> pretty
> >>> good money (not to mention the time required to come up with the
> content)
> >>> and I think it was a total waste for them. And if someone sets them on
> >>> autoplay I will ban that company and their products for life. The End.
> >>>
> >>>   -- Ben
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Lionel Online <lionel.onl...@gmail.com
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Hackerspace
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope you dont mind I conduct a little poll/research here - esp for
> those
> >>>> with Startups
> >>>>
> >>>> Would you consider using an 'Explainer Video' like this one:
> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbvbTosYxzE
> >>>> for your Startup and if so - how much would you pay for it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thks all!
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> --
> >>>> Chat: http://hackerspace.sg/chat
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> --
> >>> Chat: http://hackerspace.sg/chat
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> --
> >> Chat: http://hackerspace.sg/chat
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > --
> > Chat: http://hackerspace.sg/chat
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> --
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>
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The dcovery app is what I would call a &#39;demo video&#39; or a &#39;walk-=
through video&#39; - totally different from the first video that Lionel sho=
wed. This, I would spend my money on. Google also tends to churn out simila=
r videos which help to generate interest. The Dcovery video is just a tad t=
oo long though imo, but then again I&#39;ve a terribly short attention span=
 on the web.<div>
<br></div><div>@ciaran Yup, about 2,000 people. Which is pathetic consideri=
ng that we have a few hundred load tests a day!</div><div><br></div><div><b=
r></div><div>/Chris<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jan Detlefs=
en <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lopsta.ecomme...@googlemail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">lopsta.ecomme...@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
i like those videos when they are well done. for example this one.<br>
they don&#39;t have an app launched yet, so to create interest before<br>
launch a video is almost the only way i can think of.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://dcovery.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://dcovery.com/</a><b=
r>
<br>
btw, it&#39;s a bangkok based startup and i&#39;m very sure they will get a=
<br>
lot of attention for this. i&#39;m trying the beta and it&#39;s a pretty da=
mn<br>
well made travel app.<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On 8 August 2012 11:32, chris chong &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:chris.chonghuihui=
@gmail.com">chris.chonghui...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Can I butt in with my two cents?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Honestly, yes, this video is a commercial. It talks about your product=
 and<br>
&gt; what it&#39;s good at, but explains nothing about how it actually work=
s (if it<br>
&gt; did, then I&#39;d start calling it an infomercial). So I&#39;d say thi=
s is more like<br>
&gt; a teaser commercial than anything.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; These types of video things are sort of the buzz right now, and lots o=
f tech<br>
&gt; companies are trying to do these to &#39;dumb down&#39; their product.=
 Even my<br>
&gt; company has made one that gives a snapshot of our entire system, and t=
bh,<br>
&gt; considering we&#39;ve only had about 2000+ views in the last 9 mths or=
 so, I&#39;m<br>
&gt; not sure how many people actually watch these things.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Unfortunately, I&#39;ve no idea how much we paid for these videos, but=
 they were<br>
&gt; done in Sweden. I&#39;m not so sure the price was worth the time of th=
e creators<br>
&gt; though, because I know these video things take lots of time to make...=
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers<br>
&gt; Chris<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Benjamin Scherrey &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:proteus...@gmail.com">proteus...@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; How is that not a commercial? :-P It&#39;s the medium not the mess=
age that<br>
&gt;&gt; bugs me.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Lionel Online &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:lionel.onl...@gmail.com">lionel.onl...@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Thks for r feedback Ben<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; But what if it&#39;s not a commercial<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; But rather-a video that explains what yr startup does-esp thos=
e that need<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; just that bit of elaboration for e masses to get what they&#39=
;re doing/trying<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; to do?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Rdgs, Lionel<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On 8 Aug, 2012, at 1:19 AM, Benjamin Scherrey &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:proteus...@gmail.com">proteus...@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Let me preface this with my standard disclaimer - &quot;I&#39;=
m not anyone&#39;s<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; demographic.&quot; If I buy a brand of toothpaste or shampoo y=
ou can be certain<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; that it will be discontinued soon afterwards. Don&#39;t base y=
our market<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; decisions on my personal preferences.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; That out of the way...<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I hate video commercials like these. I never want to watch the=
m and I&#39;m<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; annoyed when people push them at me. I have a client that paid=
 some pretty<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; good money (not to mention the time required to come up with t=
he content)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; and I think it was a total waste for them. And if someone sets=
 them on<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; autoplay I will ban that company and their products for life. =
The End.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; =A0 -- Ben<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Lionel Online &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:lionel.onl...@gmail.com">lionel.onl...@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Dear Hackerspace<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hope you dont mind I conduct a little poll/research here -=
 esp for those<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with Startups<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Would you consider using an &#39;Explainer Video&#39; like=
 this one:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRbvbTosYxzE" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRbvbTosYxzE</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; for your Startup and if so - how much would you pay for it=
?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thks all!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Regards<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Chat: <a href=3D"http://hackerspace.sg/chat" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://hackerspace.sg/chat</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Chat: <a href=3D"http://hackerspace.sg/chat" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://hackerspace.sg/chat</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; Chat: <a href=3D"http://hackerspace.sg/chat" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://hackerspace.sg/chat</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Chat: <a href=3D"http://hackerspace.sg/chat" target=3D"_blank">http://=
hackerspace.sg/chat</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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