Looking for a UX/UI dude to co-found a travel-related business that will hit global

Krystal Choo

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Mar 1, 2012, 11:48:45 PM3/1/12

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Good day, new friends!

I'm submitting a plan for a globalised travel-related business in 2
weeks and found it pressing that I include a UX partner as a co-
founder. This may be a bit unconventional, but hey there are different
routes to the same goal right? :D (I hope.)

Anywayyyyyy.

UX and UI is super important as presentation of a product can make or
break if people use it, regardless of how brilliant the back-end is.
Are you talented or know someone who is? I need one more eensy-bitsy
quality - PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP. I'm looking for someone who is ambitious
and likes a good, rewarding challenge, who is passionate about his
designs because this will be HIS baby and he will own it. The kind of
guy who wants to say, "I did all of this." To commit to it to see it
grow and succeed, and of course, reap the bountiful benefits of that
hard work.

Technical: Web and mobile UI design and integration together with
backender.

I'm on gtalk/ichat at katkrys...@gmail.com or Skype at krystalchoo
if you want to take this discussion to me directly!

Best,
Krystal.

Mingming Wang

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Mar 2, 2012, 2:27:18 AM3/2/12

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is it graphic designer?

UX/UI is quite abstract to me, what's the skill set needed?

I also want to beatify my web app, but not sure to hire/partner a graphic designer or so called UI/UX guy...

Gibson Tang

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Mar 2, 2012, 2:36:13 AM3/2/12

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From what I know, UX/UI guy means the guy that makes that makes the UI and the UX(User Experiences). An example would be an awesome dude who create droolworthy buttons for your website, but he places the buttons in places that leave the user wondering where the buttons in the website are. That would be a good graphic designer, but bad UI/UX guy. A good UI/UX guy will have a sense of aesthetics, but also know what makes a good user interface and user experiences, such as removing textboxes that asks for users to key in their passwords again, changing links that do not look like links etc

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Mingming Wang

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Mar 2, 2012, 2:42:38 AM3/2/12

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yes, I agree with you. A good graphic designer is not necessarily a good UI/UX guy. But is is necessary for a UI/UI guy to know or master graphic design?

Stephan February

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Mar 2, 2012, 2:45:05 AM3/2/12

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Anyone can be good at UX. Use an off-the-shelf toolkit like Twitter Bootstrap or Zurb Foundation. Read a few books like:

1) Information Architecture for the World Wide Web

2) Don't make me think

There are a few others, but these are good starting points. Just like picking up a good Design Patterns book is obligatory for OO developers, pickup a few good UX books are essential for web devs. This is not solely the domain of designers.

Cheers

Stephan

Jeffrey 'jf' Lim

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Mar 2, 2012, 4:08:26 AM3/2/12

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On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Stephan February <stephan....@gmail.com> wrote:

Indeed, what you should be looking for is not "training" or a "certificate" (I always hate it when people mention that) - but a real sense of knowledge, pride, and care for this domain... Good EQ should be expected (because u will be thinking about how u think - and how others think as well; much more, and at a deeper level than u expect!). And a good sense of design and flair is always a helpful hint (although not a foolproof marker!). And a certain sort of "rebel attitude" also helps as well. You're not going to be creating any UX breakthroughs by going along with the mediocre.

-jf

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Donald Ong

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Mar 2, 2012, 4:34:37 AM3/2/12

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Actually, what is termed as good is subjective. Anyone can use any tools in the opensource market, and too can create those stunning design UI. No need to debate on this actually.

Regards,
Donald

Coleman Yee

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Mar 2, 2012, 9:33:21 AM3/2/12

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I don't believe that ANYONE can be good at UX. If a person has difficulty with empathizing or seeing things from perspectives other than their own, they probably won't be good at UX, especially if the UX is meant for users who aren't like themselves. Good UX requires empathy.

coleman.

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Kayode Odeyemi

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Mar 2, 2012, 9:39:40 AM3/2/12

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On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Stephan February <stephan....@gmail.com> wrote:

"Design of Everyday Things" also belong here.

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Mingming Wang

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Mar 2, 2012, 10:51:43 PM3/2/12

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What I want to raise is the practical issue, yes, we can read the Design of Everyday Things or be very empathy. But when you create a UI and you don't know any (much) graphic design, the result can be easy and cheerful to use but how to have a strong visual/brand influence? For example, how to create a high quality icon or background picture?

Actually we're using Bootstrap for the frontend but I found as a developer (even with a psychological bla bla certificate), I can not make it beautiful or having strong visual influence. May need pair up with a graphic designer.

Meng Weng Wong

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Mar 3, 2012, 12:19:25 AM3/3/12

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On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim <jfs....@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree with everything you say, but the word I'd use for this is "taste".

Jeffrey 'jf' Lim

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Mar 3, 2012, 12:37:49 AM3/3/12

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palate? :)

But yes, I'll take note and modify accordingly. Seems like a better word to use alright!

Krystal Choo

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Mar 4, 2012, 2:33:54 AM3/4/12

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All great, so I think I need a graphic designer. Anyone knows anyone
who hasn't started a company before and may be interested in this
project?

I'm pretty nervous because I've *technically* started a company, but
did not run any business and it's since been struck off. However,
that's under my records (damn you, records!) and I think to ACE I'll
appear as a non-first-time entrepreneur. Any input from the realm of
the experienced?

On Mar 3, 1:37 pm, "Jeffrey 'jf' Lim" <jfs.wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Meng Weng Wong <mengw...@gmail.com> wrote:

Bernard Chen

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Mar 4, 2012, 8:14:45 AM3/4/12

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Not everyone can be good at User Experience. It's true that the simple
job description is to make products easy to use, but in practice, it's
hard to find people who can stay focused on that task without getting
distracted by graphic design, engineering, marketing, HTML/AJAX/
WebSeksi, P&L statements, what have you.

Reading the two books recommended is a good start. You'll really want
someone who can _TEST_ your site and iterate the design. No UX is
good out-of-the-box.

I'll send you a contact who can probably help. In Singapore, it's a
lot easier to find graphic designers than it is good UX folks.

Cheers,

Bernard

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