Thorium for Singapore
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Jason Ong
Mar 12, 2012, 9:18:34 PM3/12/12
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http://thoriumsingapore.com/page1.html
Thought the Q&A for Myths and Misconceptions were quite funny.
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Lucian Teo
Mar 12, 2012, 9:50:16 PM3/12/12
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The moment I saw the email subject, there was an instinctive urge to pick up my mining axe, jump on my mount and camp the site to death. #WoWwithdrawal
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Shiaw Uen Tan
Mar 12, 2012, 10:03:04 PM3/12/12
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Soon Malaysia can export Thorium from this company called Lynas to Singapore, how much do you guys need?
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kelvin ng
Mar 12, 2012, 10:21:05 PM3/12/12
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I find it quite interesting to be honest :) given that everyone assumes fossil fuels will run out eventually and electricity powered devices is becoming an essential part of our lives .
Any form of alternative energy should be considered ( even if it's nuclear ..,.. I guess)
Any form of alternative energy should be considered ( even if it's nuclear ..,.. I guess)
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Yang Ye
Mar 12, 2012, 10:26:19 PM3/12/12
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Thanks, Jason.
Certainly good to know.
Most of the advantages are about the low radioactivity and abundant storage. Yet the advocates failed to paint the full picture - yet pointing to conspiracy theory-like statements
- "Uranium is the president' pet project."
- "Uranium reactors can produce nuclear weapon material." (As far as I know, only certain types of reactors do that and IAEA regulates the worldwide construction.)
Both may not be true. The choice of Uranium is scientifically backed and feasibility.
Despite the various advantages mentioned, there are quite a number of disadvantages of Thorium. Among them, there are at least following points easy to be digested.
1. It needs U233 to added to reach citicality, making the fuel needs mixture of them, which is difficult.
2. Though thorium-based fuels produce far less long-lived transuranics than uranium-based fuels,[11] some long-lived actinide products constitute a long term radiological impact, especially 231
Pa.[12]
More can be found here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium_fuel_cycle#Disadvantages_as_nuclear_fuel
The last paragraph in the "Disadvantage" section may shed some light. Let's see how technology evolves to make it more feasible.
"Advocates for liquid core and molten salt reactors claim that these technologies negate thorium's disadvantages. Since only one liquid core fluoride salt reactor has been built (the MSRE ORNL) and it was not using thorium, it is hard to validate the exact benefits.[3] The lack of relevance to the nuclear weapon industry can be seen as a disadvantage to the development of Thorium usage in power generation,[dubious – discuss] but a worldwide resurgence of nuclear power use could provide enough incentives and funding to negate this disadvantage."
Regards,
Yang Ye
Certainly good to know.
Most of the advantages are about the low radioactivity and abundant storage. Yet the advocates failed to paint the full picture - yet pointing to conspiracy theory-like statements
- "Uranium is the president' pet project."
- "Uranium reactors can produce nuclear weapon material." (As far as I know, only certain types of reactors do that and IAEA regulates the worldwide construction.)
Both may not be true. The choice of Uranium is scientifically backed and feasibility.
Despite the various advantages mentioned, there are quite a number of disadvantages of Thorium. Among them, there are at least following points easy to be digested.
1. It needs U233 to added to reach citicality, making the fuel needs mixture of them, which is difficult.
2. Though thorium-based fuels produce far less long-lived transuranics than uranium-based fuels,[11] some long-lived actinide products constitute a long term radiological impact, especially 231
Pa.[12]
More can be found here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium_fuel_cycle#Disadvantages_as_nuclear_fuel
The last paragraph in the "Disadvantage" section may shed some light. Let's see how technology evolves to make it more feasible.
"Advocates for liquid core and molten salt reactors claim that these technologies negate thorium's disadvantages. Since only one liquid core fluoride salt reactor has been built (the MSRE ORNL) and it was not using thorium, it is hard to validate the exact benefits.[3] The lack of relevance to the nuclear weapon industry can be seen as a disadvantage to the development of Thorium usage in power generation,[dubious – discuss] but a worldwide resurgence of nuclear power use could provide enough incentives and funding to negate this disadvantage."
Regards,
Yang Ye
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Gideon Simons
Mar 12, 2012, 11:01:43 PM3/12/12
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I also find it a bit conspiracy theory kind of material. Its also a bit difficult to imagine Singapore as a guinea pig for alternative power consumption, but then again why not?
Gideon
Tay Ray Chuan
Mar 13, 2012, 10:22:08 AM3/13/12
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On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Yang Ye <leaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Jason.
>
> Certainly good to know.
>
> Most of the advantages are about the low radioactivity and abundant storage.
> Yet the advocates failed to paint the full picture - yet pointing to
> conspiracy theory-like statements
>
> Certainly good to know.
>
> Most of the advantages are about the low radioactivity and abundant storage.
> Yet the advocates failed to paint the full picture - yet pointing to
> conspiracy theory-like statements
On this note, anyone knows who's behind the site? By not mentioning
their interests, they are doing harm to their own cause. Might want to
communicate this to them.
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Jason Ong
Mar 13, 2012, 11:01:25 PM3/13/12
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| jasonong LOL on the answers to Myths & Misconceptions on nuclear energy for Singapore - Thorium for Singapore http://t.co/3mZR3Hrg 13/3/12 1:06 PM |
| kevinmeyerson @jasonong Here is a more comprehensive overview of #thorium #nuclear. Beyond Nuclear Thorium Fact Sheet (PDF) http://t.co/Un8lDZyJ #energy 13/3/12 1:11 PM |
| JohnRandall19 @jasonong This shokingly unscientific piece is @kevinmeyerson favorite. http://t.co/4P5V5tpq When wil he learn not 2 disseminate falsehoods? 13/3/12 1:15 PM |
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