Bettermeans - democratic work management system

[Jason Ong]

Thought it might be interesting to use this for todos and projects happening in the space.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAlnMWlvw9g

http://bettermeans.com/

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[Martin Bähr]

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 01:19:53PM +0800, Jason Ong wrote:
> Thought it might be interesting to use this for todos and projects happening
> in the space.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAlnMWlvw9g
> http://bettermeans.com/

it is sadly ironic that they are advertizing an application that enables
a workflow that is supposedly similar to open source or free software
development models, yet their application is not free software and their
user agreement enforces unrestricted license grants to all participants:
http://bettermeans.com/front/user_agreement.html

this is not compatible with the actual working of free software
communities, where each project decides a license on their own and
sometimes even contributors can choose the license for their
contribution.

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[Jason Ong]

Does anybody think that it looks and feels like Pivotal Tracker?

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[Tze Yang Ng]

exactly what i was thinking

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[Mohan Belani]

I am assuming this isn't very effective for smaller startups, say 5 people or less.

At what point in a company's growth do you think such as system makes sense?

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[Martin Bähr]

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 04:28:37PM +0800, Mohan Belani wrote:
> I am assuming this isn't very effective for smaller startups, say 5 people
> or less.
>
> At what point in a company's growth do you think such as system makes sense?

i think it is not the number of people, but the number of choices that
need to be made. if you are developing a product with lots of potential
features, and every other day or so you need to make a few choices of
which features to focus on then such a tool could probably help to keep
track of the decisions that need to be made. but in the end it doesn't
seem to be much more than an issue tracker that has a voting mechanism
to help set priorities and a smaller team could likely evaluate votes in
a much more informal way by counting comments if they didn't pick an
issue tracker that doesn't have something similar (the ability to star
an issue like on googles issue tracker would be sufficient for smaller
teams.

but for community projects that is only half the battle, no voting
mechanism is going to stop me from implementing a feature that i want,
and decision making tends to be more based on finding a volunteer for a
given task, voting doesn't help much if no volunteer is found.

for projects that can offer a return for contributors, their mechanism
to evaluate the amount of contribution is interesting. if it works, i'd
think that even a smaller team can benefit from it.

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