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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 13:50:15 -0700
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Me too!
On Nov 6, 2011 11:33 AM, "Yigit Ozkan" <yigitozkan2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd like very much to lay eyes on that, if it's possible! [?]
>
> thanks!
>
>
>
> happy hacking
> y
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Arclight <arcli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> One of our members wrote a server back-end that you can point the
>> Linksys web cams at for off-site storage. It gets FTP updates whenever
>> one of the cameras detects motion, then stitches the frames together
>> into a flash player.
>>
>> He says he'll open-source it if there is interest. He just doesn't
>> have time to maintain it.
>>
>> Anyone interested in a first world-wide hackerspace infrastructure proje=
ct
>>
>> Regarding security and monitoring who is there, I think the best
>> approach is to combine a hardware-based access/alarm board with a
>> Linux server that monitors and ties in with video.  Being able to see
>> who came/went, status of all of the doors (did someone leave the front
>> door unlocked?) and having an IP-based alarm system that you don't
>> have to pay for (we use an SMS call-out list) really gives you the
>> best of all worlds. Sensors and embedded hardware for real-time
>> operations, and video for auditing, verification of alarms, and
>> general "what's going on?" questions.
>>
>> Anyone want to work on video software?
>>
>> Arclight
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Mars <itcamefromm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'll say one last thing... Tech that changes and goes through fast
>> generation changes(like surv. Equip) really enables 1-2(or older) year o=
ld
>> tech to be found on the super cheap on eBay...  That's basically what HF
>> sells IMHO... Although I love them for some stuff.
>> >
>> > But how important is it this project?  I'd say webcams one the
>> ubercheap and wired netcams from eBay... I got a bunch - well a few- of
>> 2003 dlink net webcams and I think they have wee wittle net servers buil=
t
>> in... Or at least some minimal http interface.  A little research and ya
>> might find some ancient netcams that can be refirmwareloaded w some open
>> Linux based stuffamagoo.
>> >
>> > Dunno... Just thoughts.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Nov 4, 2011, at 12:07 PM, psy...@alphaonelabs.com wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/4-channel-surveillance-dvr-with-4-cameras-a=
nd-mobile-monitoring-capabilities-68332.html
>> >>
>> >> On Nov 4, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Ben Brown <b...@generik.ca> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Our space is using two D-Link IP cameras monitoring both entrances o=
ut
>> >>> in the hall. I had tried to get zoneminder to play ball (along with
>> some
>> >>> regular USB webcams) but no dice. For now we're using the DVR softwa=
re
>> >>> the cameras came with. Seems to work well enough, plus we have two
>> weeks
>> >>> of motion-detected video if we ever need it.
>> >>>
>> >>> However you'll never beat the quality of a commercial surveillance
>> >>> system... expensive as hell, but you do get what you pay for.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ben
>> >>>
>> >>> On 11/3/2011 1:07 PM, m...@redecho.org wrote:
>> >>>> Forgive me if this topic has been beaten to death already: I am new
>> to
>> >>>> this list and have found it difficult to search through the archive=
s.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am affiliated with Air Light Time & Space here in Seattle. We wan=
t
>> to
>> >>>> set up some webcams, both as a security measure and as a way of
>> promoting
>> >>>> community engagement. We think that people will be more likely to
>> "just
>> >>>> stop by" if they can check in first and see what to expect.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Commercial security camera systems look complicated and expensive.
>> We were
>> >>>> thinking that we could get a bunch of cheap USB webcams and plug
>> them into
>> >>>> a cheap PC and run some free software on it. Of course none of us
>> actually
>> >>>> know how to do this, which is why I am asking for advice.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Have any of you set up such a system? Can you give me any pointers =
on
>> >>>> hardware or software that I should look into? What is the state of
>> Linux
>> >>>> camera drivers - are there certain models which should be favored o=
r
>> >>>> avoided? Is there such a thing as a weatherproof USB webcam? How fa=
r
>> can
>> >>>> you stretch a USB connection? (It'd be cool to put a camera over th=
e
>> front
>> >>>> door, but that's a good 80 feet from where the PC would live.)  Vid=
eo
>> >>>> would be great, but we would be happy with still frames.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks for any pointers you can offer!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mars Saxman @ ALTSpace
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> Discuss mailing list
>> >>>> Disc...@lists.hackerspaces.org
>> >>>> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Discuss mailing list
>> >>> Disc...@lists.hackerspaces.org
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>
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.=94
>
> b.m.
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<p>Me too!</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Nov 6, 2011 11:33 AM, &quot;Yigit Ozkan&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:yigitozkan2...@gmail.com">yigitozkan2...@gmail.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I&#39;d like very much to lay eyes on that, if it&#39;s possible! <img goom=
oji=3D"332" style=3D"margin:0pt 0.2ex;vertical-align:middle" src=3D"cid:332=
@goomoji.gmail"><br><br>thanks!<br><br><br><br>happy hacking<br>y<br><br><b=
r>

<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Arclight <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:arcli...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">arcl=
i...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

One of our members wrote a server back-end that you can point the<br>
Linksys web cams at for off-site storage. It gets FTP updates whenever<br>
one of the cameras detects motion, then stitches the frames together<br>
into a flash player.<br>
<br>
He says he&#39;ll open-source it if there is interest. He just doesn&#39;t<=
br>
have time to maintain it.<br>
<br>
Anyone interested in a first world-wide hackerspace infrastructure project<=
br>
<br>
Regarding security and monitoring who is there, I think the best<br>
approach is to combine a hardware-based access/alarm board with a<br>
Linux server that monitors and ties in with video. =A0Being able to see<br>
who came/went, status of all of the doors (did someone leave the front<br>
door unlocked?) and having an IP-based alarm system that you don&#39;t<br>
have to pay for (we use an SMS call-out list) really gives you the<br>
best of all worlds. Sensors and embedded hardware for real-time<br>
operations, and video for auditing, verification of alarms, and<br>
general &quot;what&#39;s going on?&quot; questions.<br>
<br>
Anyone want to work on video software?<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Arclight<br>
</font></span><div><div><br>
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Mars &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:itcamefrommars@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">itcamefromm...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I&#39;ll say one last thing... Tech that changes and goes through fast=
 generation changes(like surv. Equip) really enables 1-2(or older) year old=
 tech to be found on the super cheap on eBay... =A0That&#39;s basically wha=
t HF sells IMHO... Although I love them for some stuff.<br>


&gt;<br>
&gt; But how important is it this project? =A0I&#39;d say webcams one the u=
bercheap and wired netcams from eBay... I got a bunch - well a few- of 2003=
 dlink net webcams and I think they have wee wittle net servers built in...=
 Or at least some minimal http interface. =A0A little research and ya might=
 find some ancient netcams that can be refirmwareloaded w some open Linux b=
ased stuffamagoo.<br>


&gt;<br>
&gt; Dunno... Just thoughts.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent from my iPhone<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Nov 4, 2011, at 12:07 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:psy...@alphaonelabs.com=
" target=3D"_blank">psy...@alphaonelabs.com</a> wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.harborfreight.com/4-channel-surveillance-dvr=
-with-4-cameras-and-mobile-monitoring-capabilities-68332.html" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.harborfreight.com/4-channel-surveillance-dvr-with-4-camera=
s-and-mobile-monitoring-capabilities-68332.html</a><br>


&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Nov 4, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Ben Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ben@ge=
nerik.ca" target=3D"_blank">b...@generik.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Our space is using two D-Link IP cameras monitoring both entra=
nces out<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; in the hall. I had tried to get zoneminder to play ball (along=
 with some<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; regular USB webcams) but no dice. For now we&#39;re using the =
DVR software<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; the cameras came with. Seems to work well enough, plus we have=
 two weeks<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; of motion-detected video if we ever need it.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; However you&#39;ll never beat the quality of a commercial surv=
eillance<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; system... expensive as hell, but you do get what you pay for.<=
br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Ben<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On 11/3/2011 1:07 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:m...@redecho.org" targ=
et=3D"_blank">m...@redecho.org</a> wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Forgive me if this topic has been beaten to death already:=
 I am new to<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; this list and have found it difficult to search through th=
e archives.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I am affiliated with Air Light Time &amp; Space here in Se=
attle. We want to<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; set up some webcams, both as a security measure and as a w=
ay of promoting<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; community engagement. We think that people will be more li=
kely to &quot;just<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; stop by&quot; if they can check in first and see what to e=
xpect.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Commercial security camera systems look complicated and ex=
pensive. We were<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; thinking that we could get a bunch of cheap USB webcams an=
d plug them into<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; a cheap PC and run some free software on it. Of course non=
e of us actually<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; know how to do this, which is why I am asking for advice.<=
br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Have any of you set up such a system? Can you give me any =
pointers on<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; hardware or software that I should look into? What is the =
state of Linux<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; camera drivers - are there certain models which should be =
favored or<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; avoided? Is there such a thing as a weatherproof USB webca=
m? How far can<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; you stretch a USB connection? (It&#39;d be cool to put a c=
amera over the front<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; door, but that&#39;s a good 80 feet from where the PC woul=
d live.) =A0Video<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; would be great, but we would be happy with still frames.<b=
r>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks for any pointers you can offer!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mars Saxman @ ALTSpace<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Discuss mailing list<br>
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iscuss</a><br>
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<span style=3D"color:rgb(255, 153, 0)">
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