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Joel Byrnes  
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 More options Jun 25 2012, 9:04 pm
From: Joel Byrnes <fatal.exception.occur...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:04:59 +1000
Local: Mon, Jun 25 2012 9:04 pm
Subject: Re: Macs

Lemming must be pressing the button wrong.

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Ben Cooper
<bcoo...@cooperanderson.com.au>wrote:

> Having worked with macs for the best part of the last 2 years, Repair
> Permissions never broke a single one of our macs...

> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lemming . <inert...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I'm not really pro or anti, I wouldn't buy one myself as I hate the epic
>> levels of vendor lock in they are now doing, but that said I wouldn't say
>> no if someone were going to buy me one or someone I know was buying one.

>> On 26 June 2012 09:55, Joel Byrnes <fatal.exception.occur...@gmail.com>wrote:

>>> lovely. this is a great pro-mac thread, isn't it? sorry :P

>>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lemming . <inert...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Having worked at Apple tech support, I saw far more cases where repair
>>>> permissions broke shit than fixed it.

>>>> On 26 June 2012 09:29, Joshua Hogendorn <jhogend...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>  fyi i've never had repair permissions break anything. not saying its
>>>>> not possible but its not likely

>>>>> --
>>>>> Joshua Hogendorn
>>>>> PH: 0407710007

>>>>> On Tuesday, 26 June 2012 at 9:26 AM, Lemming . wrote:

>>>>> Be warned, "Repair Permissions" also has a horrible habit of breaking
>>>>> things.

>>>>> Basically it tries to set all the permissions back to OS defaults, so
>>>>> if any of your applications have special permissions it will likely break
>>>>> them. Also it tends to break custom shared folders etc.

>>>>> On 26 June 2012 08:50, Joel Byrnes <fatal.exception.occur...@gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:

>>>>> Oh wow, it fixed heaps of stuff... won't know till I get home if it
>>>>> has fixed the problem though.

>>>>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Joel Byrnes <
>>>>> fatal.exception.occur...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>> When I say copy I used Carbon Copy Cloner which is supposed to do it
>>>>> correctly... but I'll try it, thanks.

>>>>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 8:39 AM, James Hodgkinson <yale...@ricetek.net
>>>>> > wrote:

>>>>> Go into disk utility and do the "Repair permissions" thing under First
>>>>> Aid for the volume... fixes a lot of issues.

>>>>> James

>>>>> On 26 June 2012 08:37, Joel Byrnes <fatal.exception.occur...@gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:

>>>>> Nah, 10.6.8, I read about the 10.7 problems though. The problem I have
>>>>> is that it is unable to authenticate with any windows shares on windows or
>>>>> mac. The other end says it doesn't know the user.

>>>>> This started happening around the time a) my mac mini's hard drive
>>>>> died, and I had to go through a painful recovery process which was made
>>>>> easier by the Time Machine backup, and b) I upgraded my laptop's hard drive
>>>>> to 750gb by copying all the files to a newer drive. It's possible something
>>>>> got missed in the move.

>>>>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Ben Cooper <
>>>>> bcoo...@cooperanderson.com.au> wrote:

>>>>> Hence why I am still running SL still they fix samba.

>>>>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:37 PM, James Hodgkinson <yale...@ricetek.net
>>>>> > wrote:

>>>>> On the windows shares, are you running 10.7? They broke smb bad after
>>>>> 10.6 :(
>>>>> On Jun 25, 2012 6:31 PM, "Joel Byrnes" <
>>>>> fatal.exception.occur...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>  I originally got a mac-mini try it out, and use it as a low-power,
>>>>> quiet TV box and server, since it was fairly cheap ($600 refurb). When I
>>>>> needed a new laptop I got a macbook, again because I got a cheap refurb for
>>>>> $1050, that was a decent price and specs for a portable development
>>>>> machine. I still use Windows on my main PC at home for non-development.

>>>>> It's good because:
>>>>> * linux is the best for software development, mac has unix so it's
>>>>> familiar and many things are directly portable.
>>>>> * unlike linux things generally "just work" like media, browsers,
>>>>> connectivity. no need to fuck around because a kernel/X/gcc/gdm/ssh/samba
>>>>> update broke things.
>>>>> * unlike windows it rarely has a fatal error (external hardware
>>>>> usually), actually suspends and hibernates and resumes properly, and has
>>>>> proper memory management so no chugging.
>>>>> * a built-in backup system that actually works really well - Time
>>>>> Machine.

>>>>> It's not good because:
>>>>> * it's not actually linux, so you can't fix some things if you wanted
>>>>> to. and there are many drivers and programs that don't compile easily or at
>>>>> all.
>>>>> * fewer games than windows (?). runs dosbox though.
>>>>> * the fucking bizzare bug I have now where I can't connect to any
>>>>> windows shares on pc or mac, there is virtually no logging and forums are
>>>>> full of hordes of clueless noobs. which stops me using the aforementioned
>>>>> backup system at the moment.

>>>>> It might make your life better if you don't have to worry about those
>>>>> windows and linux foibles. It's more expensive, but you have to decide if
>>>>> that time is worth the money. (stability and time savings not guaranteed)

>>>>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Mark Harrison <
>>>>> boffina...@boffincentral.com> wrote:

>>>>> You really need to find a reason to move. I had a particular reason
>>>>> that I needed a Mac (iOS development) but otherwise, its okay. There are
>>>>> certain things I really like but overall, it's still just a computer. It
>>>>> won't make your life better.
>>>>> [Shields Up:true]; // :)

>>>>> On Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:08:54 PM UTC+10, dansxmods wrote:

>>>>> Evening All,

>>>>> I am at the moment a PC boy but am considering swapping over to the
>>>>> white side, I only want to get something cheap just to see if I like the
>>>>> fruit flavoured computing. I have been looking on ebay trying to find
>>>>> something that would suit, but am not sure what is good/bad. I know that
>>>>> quite a few of the HSBNE members are Apple users I was hoping that I could
>>>>> get some advice like what to look out for good or bad. Also if anyone has
>>>>> an Apple that they want to sell let me know.

>>>>> --
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> Daniel Fielding
>>>>> 0418782589

>>>>> On Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:08:54 PM UTC+10, dansxmods wrote:

>>>>> Evening All,

>>>>> I am at the moment a PC boy but am considering swapping over to the
>>>>> white side, I only want to get something cheap just to see if I like the
>>>>> fruit flavoured computing. I have been looking on ebay trying to find
>>>>> something that would suit, but am not sure what is good/bad. I know that
>>>>> quite a few of the HSBNE members are Apple users I was hoping that I could
>>>>> get some advice like what to look out for good or bad. Also if anyone has
>>>>> an Apple that they want to sell let me know.

>>>>> --
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> Daniel Fielding
>>>>> 0418782589

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