> sorry, i didnt mean as in taking the building, i meant taking this
> building because we didnt get the other one?
> --
> Joshua Hogendorn
> PH: 0407710007
> On Sunday, 5 February 2012 at 9:08 PM, Lemming . wrote:
> *Site, Buildings and Condition*
> *
> *
> Potential New Space - Nearmap<http://www.nearmap.com/?q=Potential%20New%20Sp...@-27.443016,153.079257&ll=-27.443033,153.079394&z=20&t=h&nmd=20111107>
> Potential New Space - Google Maps <http://g.co/maps/8qv7w>
> [image: PNS.jpg]
> Yellow building is The office building, about 400m² floor space, divided
> internally into about 10 or 12 offices, plus break room, toilets (gents and
> ladies) along with some other little random rooms. Evidence of possible
> termites, but building structure is all steel, so any damage would be
> internal only.
> Blue building is a change room/break room building. About 150m² floor
> space, approx half as a change room with communal showers, lockers and
> communal sink thing. Roof leaking in one place but otherwise fine.
> Red building is the main workshop building. about 500m² floor space
> divided into 5 or 6 workshops of varying size. one of which has a 2 ton
> overhead hoist that can move across the width of the building and drive
> through doors. Roof needs a bit of work as all the lucite skylights have
> been smashed/broken and need to be replaced. May need electrical work as
> well, internal non structural walls may be termite damaged.
> Green Building is another small workshop, about 100m² floor space divided
> into two rooms, one of which is locked and we did not see inside, the other
> of which has another hoist that can move on the x and y axes, but is
> unknown weight limit, and only about 8 feet off the ground. In all likely
> hood we won't be getting this building. Roof and structure in poor
> condition. Would need the roof skylights replaced and a lot of the
> structure is rusted.
> [image: PNS2.jpg]
> Above is a rough possible outline of the sort of area we would be getting.
> about 3800m² of land.
> *Nitty Gritty Details*
> *
> *
> The buildings are offered to us as is. Any works needing to be done to
> any/all the buildings would have to be done and/or paid for by us. This is
> one of the things we need to work out. Whether or not we can afford to do
> it, and if we want 1, 2, 3 or 4 buildings.*
> *
> We'd be looking at a 3 + 2 lease most likely. That's 3 years initially
> with an option to extend it for another 2 at the end. Any buildings we
> don't take now will likely be demolished, and when we leave the buildings
> will be demolished. There is a a very VERY small chance we may be able to
> stay longer, but that entirely depends how things pan out re development
> etc.
> *
> *
> $12'000 per annum is the estimate we have been given, but this is a
> complete fudge factor estimate by the person who is offering us the
> building, once we have confirmed how many of the buildings we want, they
> will be able to give us firmer numbers. I am going to be talking to some
> contacts I have in QLD government as well as BCC regarding getting the
> rates waived/reduced. The department responsible for this wants this to be
> as revenue neutral for them as possible. I.e. they don't want to spend any
> money on it, but they also don't want to be making any money off it either.
> As for what we can do to the buildings, basically anything, so long as we
> don't change the exterior too much. There have already been some
> discussions between myself, Sid, Jimmy and Sam regarding potential layouts
> etc, atm we need to work more on whether we can afford it.
> We are also signing this as a commercial lease, so we are completely
> within our rights to sublease to other groups etc if we want to.
> Lemming.
> On 5 February 2012 19:51, Joshua Hogendorn <jhogend...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry if i misunderstood, but didn't you say just the rates are out of
> our budget buzz? ie are these buildings already completely out just in
> affordability?
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> On Sunday, 5 February 2012 at 6:55 PM, Luke Hovington wrote:
> Thanks for the list and the photo's
> I think these two negatives are properly the most annoying..
> - it is in bad condition, but not insurmountable
> - workshops are very separate from "clean" spaces(good for noise, bad for
> community involvement)
> How much "Work" are we allowed to do to the building?
> ie removing walls?
> Is the shed close to the clean area?
> Can we join the two?
> Cheers
> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 11:51 AM, buzz <davidb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The first (tall) shed is :
> *being offered for (nearly or close to) free as a community benefit
> project. no rates to pay.
> * long 5+ year lease.
> * just like the space we have now only:
> +water
> +bathroom
> +sink
> +7*10m elevated and enclosed mesanine (perfect for all the computers and
> clean stuff)
> +bigger outside area
> +plenty parking
> +true industrial area(no noise issues)
> +no flooding
> +relatively clean
> +birdproof
> The second set of buildings is just like the above except:
> - we pay full city rates and all costs
> - comes as-is
> - it is in bad condition, but not insurmountable
> - workshops are very separate from "clean" spaces(good for noise, bad for
> community involvement)
> - signs of prior termites and flooding
> - most dirty workshop areas not currently birdproof or rainproof
> (fixable,I think).
> + covered outdoor area
> + not a competition to get it
> +potentially much bigger area and more buildings etc
> Buzz
> On Feb 4, 2012 10:05 AM, "Joel Byrnes" <
> fatal.exception.occur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I never saw the inside of the big tall shed, and I like the layout and
> facilities of this one. Being that the big shed is so tall, and would only
> be useful for trapeze artists or building gundam-style robots at full
> standing height, why is everyone still so keen on that one?
> On 03/02/2012, at 8:49 PM, "Wizard^^" <Wiz...@hsbne.org> wrote:
> > The under cover area is mine... Forge Ho... MWhahahahahaha
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