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Subject: Re: painfully simple batch file <---my memmory fails me
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I'm sorry but iPhones DON'T report themselfs to be IE. Nor any other smart
phone by default (assuming its not running windows).

And here is your browser link..
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

But from browsers we can still tell the op (assuming the arnt spoofing,
which most people wouldn't spoof their OS)
So here is another link claiming 80% are windows users.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

Have fun

On Tuesday, September 4, 2012, chris bate wrote:

> @jimmy,   Linux , well at least certain distributions of it is far far far
> far superior to anything Microsoft has to offer in its windows product
>
> windows is a proprietry operating system costing hundreds to buy off the
> shelf is full of bugs and nearly everything operating behind the desktop is
> surprisingly inefficient even in the latest version there are some simple
> components that haven't been updated since 1991!
>
> there are thousands of security holes glitches and bugs which allow
> viruses access into and out of you pc, some of this problems have existed
> since windows 3.11 and instead of being fixed they are covered up with more
> layers of software each adding more complexity to the operating system
>
> performance wise, the handling of usb data transfer is a classic example,
> this is handled so badly that under most windows versions if you're
> transferring data across a usb link the operating system will usaully
> struggle to use even 10% to 15% of the available bandwidth
>
> and still the time remaining function of those little windows is
> innaccurate after  how many years?????
>
> the reason 100% don't use linux on their desktop computers is partially
> because most users are conditioned from highschool that windows is the
> "operating system" and that there is no other operating system other than
> macos, it's a bit like religion
>
> the physiological mechanism is called a duality, eg good vs evil, black vs
> white, liberals vs labour, people generally don't look past one other
> option unless they have a certain frame of mind regrettably linux is not
> part of this duality
>
> The user is a funny animal, strictly speaking they don't know what they
> want, when they get it the do everything they can to break it, this
> including installing those spyware/malware riddle pc speed up programs
> antivirus software that is full of viruses and programs that when
> uninstalled leave redundant files behind to take up diskspace and cause
> other problems,
>
> for most users a web browser a video playing program and somthing to read
> write office excel and power point files  is just about all they need and
> or really want, i find that after demoing ubuntu 10.04 or higher most
> people are quite happy to make the switch,
>
> i recommend running off a usb stick first, and when your happy install it
> to the hard drive,
> and yes you can dual boot it so if there are any games/porn applications
> you are fond of you can still play with those,
>
> as for me being a prick that can't do the job,
>
> i should correct you here jimmy, i can do the job, i can probably do it
> half drunk, it's more of i don't want to ,especially when I'm not getting
> paid for it, i have better things to do,
>
> I'm not sure what magical insight you have into the world of computing,
> but generally the IT guys with all those qualifications that took them
> years in some cases to aquire, they generally do know better
>
> while i'm at it i'll set the delusion on how many people use windows
> around the world
>
> roughly about 50% +-10% use windows  it is estimated up to %35 of those
> windows installations are illegal
>
> when you consider that macos and android are based on some Linux variant
> anyway
> so  we aren't quite there yet with the "taking over the world with linux"
> project yet but we're making a good pie of it,
>
> please don't  if you're going to reply with some link to a website that
> claims that 90%+ of people run windows,  most of the time this statistic
> comes from web server statistics which come from what the browser reports
> you are running,
>
> in a very very large percentage of cases the brower on your iphone or your
> linux installation will tell the webserver that it is "internet explorer",
> for the sake of compatibility,
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 6:43 AM, James Hodgkinson <yale...@ricetek.net<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'yale...@ricetek.net');>
> > wrote:
>
>> Whoa, good morning to you too!
>>
>> Chill...
>> On Sep 4, 2012 6:27 AM, "Jimmy Bowler" <denomina...@gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'denomina...@gmail.com');>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Typical IT guys think they know better than what the user want and just
>>> installs Linux. O and chris no one rings you anymore because you are a
>>> prick that can't do the job they asked you to do. If Linux is so much
>>> better why doesn't 100% of people use it ?  People just want their pc fixed
>>> not a lecture on how inferior they are.
>>>
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I&#39;m sorry but iPhones DON&#39;T report themselfs to be IE. Nor any othe=
r smart phone by default (assuming its not running windows).<div><br></div>=
<div>And here is your browser link..</div><div><a href=3D"http://www.w3scho=
ols.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp">http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/brow=
sers_stats.asp</a><br dir=3D"ltr">
<br>But from browsers we can still tell the op (assuming the arnt spoofing,=
 which most people wouldn&#39;t spoof their OS)</div>So here is another lin=
k claiming 80% are windows users.<br><div><a href=3D"http://www.w3schools.c=
om/browsers/browsers_os.asp">http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.=
asp</a><br dir=3D"ltr">
<br>Have fun<span></span><br><br>On Tuesday, September 4, 2012, chris bate =
 wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">@jimmy,=C2=A0=C2=A0 Linux , well =
at least certain distributions of it is far far far far superior to anythin=
g Microsoft has to offer in its windows product <br>
<br>windows is a proprietry operating system costing hundreds to buy off th=
e shelf is full of bugs and nearly everything operating behind the desktop =
is surprisingly inefficient even in the latest version there are some simpl=
e components that haven&#39;t been updated since 1991!<br>

<br>there are thousands of security holes glitches and bugs which allow vir=
uses access into and out of you pc, some of this problems have existed sinc=
e windows 3.11 and instead of being fixed they are covered up with more lay=
ers of software each adding more complexity to the operating system <br>

<br>performance wise, the handling of usb data transfer is a classic exampl=
e, this is handled so badly that under most windows versions if you&#39;re =
transferring data across a usb link the operating system will usaully strug=
gle to use even 10% to 15% of the available bandwidth<br>

<br>and still the time remaining function of those little windows is innacc=
urate after=C2=A0 how many years?????<br><br>the reason 100% don&#39;t use =
linux on their desktop computers is partially because most users are condit=
ioned from highschool that windows is the &quot;operating system&quot; and =
that there is no other operating system other than macos, it&#39;s a bit li=
ke religion<br>

<br>the physiological mechanism is called a duality, eg good vs evil, black=
 vs white, liberals vs labour, people generally don&#39;t look past one oth=
er option unless they have a certain frame of mind regrettably linux is not=
 part of this duality<br>

<br>The user is a funny animal, strictly speaking they don&#39;t know what =
they want, when they get it the do everything they can to break it, this in=
cluding installing those spyware/malware riddle pc speed up programs antivi=
rus software that is full of viruses and programs that when uninstalled lea=
ve redundant files behind to take up diskspace and cause other problems,<br=
>

<br>for most users a web browser a video playing program and somthing to re=
ad write office excel and power point files=C2=A0 is just about all they ne=
ed and or really want, i find that after demoing ubuntu 10.04 or higher mos=
t people are quite happy to make the switch,<br>

<br>i recommend running off a usb stick first, and when your happy install =
it to the hard drive,<br>and yes you can dual boot it so if there are any g=
ames/porn applications you are fond of you can still play with those,<br>

<br>as for me being a prick that can&#39;t do the job,<br><br>i should corr=
ect you here jimmy, i can do the job, i can probably do it half drunk, it&#=
39;s more of i don&#39;t want to ,especially when I&#39;m not getting paid =
for it, i have better things to do,<br>

<br>I&#39;m not sure what magical insight you have into the world of comput=
ing, but generally the IT guys with all those qualifications that took them=
 years in some cases to aquire, they generally do know better <br><br>
while i&#39;m at it i&#39;ll set the delusion on how many people use window=
s around the world<br>
<br>roughly about 50% +-10% use windows=C2=A0 it is estimated up to %35 of =
those windows installations are illegal <br><br>when you consider that maco=
s and android are based on some Linux variant anyway<br>so=C2=A0 we aren&#3=
9;t quite there yet with the &quot;taking over the world with linux&quot; p=
roject yet but we&#39;re making a good pie of it,<br>

<br>please don&#39;t=C2=A0 if you&#39;re going to reply with some link to a=
 website that claims that 90%+ of people run windows,=C2=A0 most of the tim=
e this statistic comes from web server statistics which come from what the =
browser reports you are running,<br>

<br>in a very very large percentage of cases the brower on your iphone or y=
our linux installation will tell the webserver that it is &quot;internet ex=
plorer&quot;, for the sake of compatibility,<br><br><br><br><br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">

On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 6:43 AM, James Hodgkinson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"javascript:_e({}, &#39;cvml&#39;, &#39;yale...@ricetek.net&#39;);" t=
arget=3D"_blank">yale...@ricetek.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex">

<p>Whoa, good morning to you too! </p>
<p>Chill...</p><div><div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 4, 2012 6:27 AM, &quot;Jimmy Bowler&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"javascript:_e({}, &#39;cvml&#39;, &#39;denomina...@gmail.co=
m&#39;);" target=3D"_blank">denomina...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D=
"attribution">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Typical IT guys think they know better than what the user want and just ins=
talls Linux. O and chris no one rings you anymore because you are a prick t=
hat can&#39;t do the job they asked you to do. If Linux is so much better w=
hy doesn&#39;t 100% of people use it ?=C2=A0 People just want their pc fixe=
d not a lecture on how inferior they are.=C2=A0 <br>



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