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Brendan Halliday  
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 More options Aug 22 2012, 7:02 pm
From: Brendan Halliday <n...@hsbne.org>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:02:57 +1000
Local: Wed, Aug 22 2012 7:02 pm
Subject: Meeting 28 August Agenda

Hi guys,

Next Tuesday (28th) of August we're having a Meeting to vote on a few
things. I'll list the current agenda items we have here but if you have any
others you'd like to bring up please *let me know ASAP (Today if it's
financial).*

Agenda Items:
1. Vending Machine - It's been an idea that's floated around for ages now
and I would like to propose we set a budget to acquire one. To be clear,
this would be a snack machine modified to dispense 3d Printer
Vitamins/Electronics Parts/Kits and possibly snacks of some form that don't
need refrigeration. My proposal is that we set a set budget limit of up to
$1000 to acquire and refit it for this purpose.

2. Drinks Machine - This one is a different bugbear to the one above, I
believe having a drinks machine at the space would be good from the
perspective that at the new site we'll have markets next to us every
weekend and this would provide some extra income for the group to spend on
projects and tools. Additionally, I believe it'll be a cool thing for us to
hack on and adapt (incorporating the RFID system and possibly something to
allow members to swipe their card instead of inserting coins). I'd like to
propose we set a budget for this, but as it's not a must have right now I'd
like to suggest we actually deal with it after we move into the new site.

3. Anything else. Got something you'd like voted on, financial  or
otherwise? *Please let me know ASAP.*

As a reminder, we also have our cleanup at the new site on Saturday. More
info can be found at http://bit.ly/TVEgRV and I hope to see many of you
there :)

Cheers,
Brendan/nogthree
HSBNE Secretary


 
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Jimmy Bowler  
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From: Jimmy Bowler <denomina...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:51:52 +1000
Local: Wed, Aug 22 2012 11:51 pm
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/595708399/Hex_Allen_Key.html


 
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Brendan Halliday  
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 More options Aug 23 2012, 1:59 am
From: Brendan Halliday <n...@hsbne.org>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:59:33 +1000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2012 1:59 am
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

Yeah, we do need a couple more sets of hex allen keys. Our current sets
have gone slowly and partially walkabout. I'll add acquiring a couple of
sets (Imp and Metric) to the agenda.


 
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From: Luke Hovington <lu...@hovo.id.au>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 17:12:41 +1000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2012 3:12 am
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda
I would vote against purchasing more Allen Keys.

I don't want to be purchasing equipment or tools when they go missing
due to people being lazy and not returning them.
If a tool breaks due to wear and tear, then yes lets replace it.
If a tool breaks due to miss use, the member should help in the replacement.

We need a system to record broken tools in the new space,
if only we had a Mother :p

Cheers
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From: chortlyn <chort...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:18:53 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2012 3:18 am
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

G'day
just a thought
if the allen keys cheap enough (i couldn't work out the pricing on the
alibaba website).
you could give new members (long term ie 3 months or more) a set of allen
keys (or similar tools), then it's something that would not would 'walk' as
members would take ownership of their tools.

cheers
Brendon

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Joshua Hogendorn  
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From: Joshua Hogendorn <jhogend...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 17:19:07 +1000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2012 3:19 am
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

Yes, tools going missing is a very real problem we have at the moment.

It ranges from having to search for 30mins every time you want to find one (and usually not finding it), to tools that have disappeared completely. On a personal note, I'm noticing people are borrowing things off my desk and not returning them increasingly, which is (for me) particularly distressing.

It's a tricky problem to solve, and I think it would be a good discussion to have. My initial first run at a solution would be having all tools barcoded and scanned to be removed, so at least we know who had something last.

Finally, I agree with Luke. Replacing worn out tools is fine, buying more because people cant put stuff back is incredibly counter productive. And we definitely need a way of tracking broken tools. Perhaps in its simplest form, a bin especially for broken tools, ie for drill bits to screwdrivers to multimeters etc. Catalogue the contents every other week or so.

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Joshua Hogendorn  
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 More options Aug 23 2012, 5:41 am
From: Joshua Hogendorn <jhogend...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:41:41 +1000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2012 5:41 am
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

I would like to add an item to allow me to purchase the sheeting and guttering for the roof of the new space, according to known estimates, on the provision of, and as soon as we aquire a lease.

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 More options Aug 23 2012, 7:54 pm
From: Brendan Halliday <n...@hsbne.org>
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:54:36 +1000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2012 7:54 pm
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

Alright, final agenda is as follows:
1. Vending Machine - It's been an idea that's floated around for ages now
and I would like to propose we set a budget to acquire one. To be clear,
this would be a snack machine modified to dispense 3d Printer
Vitamins/Electronics Parts/Kits and possibly snacks of some form that don't
need refrigeration. My proposal is that we set a set budget limit of up to
$1000 to acquire and refit it for this purpose. (After we have our lease
for the new site and have refitted it.)

2. Drinks Machine - This one is a different bugbear to the one above, I
believe having a drinks machine at the space would be good from the
perspective that at the new site we'll have markets next to us every
weekend and this would provide some extra income for the group to spend on
projects and tools. Additionally, I believe it'll be a cool thing for us to
hack on and adapt (incorporating the RFID system and possibly something to
allow members to swipe their card instead of inserting coins). I'd like to
propose we set a budget for this, but as it's not a must have right now I'd
like to suggest we actually deal with it after we move into the new site.

3.* *Roofing for new site *- *Joshua/devians would like to add an item to
allow the purchase of the sheeting and guttering for the roof of the new
space, according to known estimates, on the provision of, and as soon as we
aquire a lease.

4. Broken tools - We need to talk about this and nut out a solution for it.
A 'broken tools' box that all broken parts are placed in to be replaced has
been suggested and looks like a good deal.

5. Lost tools - Where are these going and what can we do to stop it
happening?

As a reminder, we also have our cleanup at the new site tomorrow from 10am.
More info can be found at http://bit.ly/TVEgRV and I hope to see many of
you there.

Cheers,
Brendan/nogthree
HSBNE Secretary

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Luke Hovington  
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From: Luke Hovington <lu...@hovo.id.au>
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:53:07 +1000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2012 8:53 pm
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda
I won't be in attendance for the next meeting.
So as part of the discussions I would like to see some way of
informing new members and current members on the way we handle lost
and broken tools. (What ever that may be)

I think this is one of the main reason things are going missing and
others aren't respecting members benches as they are non the wiser.
Things like signage, and info sheets might be a way forward.

Cheers


 
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From: Joshua Hogendorn <jhogend...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:54:54 +1000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2012 8:54 pm
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

One of the things we are working on is a bit of new member induction, a cheat sheet, that sort of thing.

Put it on the agenda, i'll have a word about whats going on with that and we can take some suggestions.

--
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PH: 0407710007

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 More options Aug 23 2012, 9:10 pm
From: buzz <davidb...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:10:33 +1000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2012 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

Actually, we need a better induction process.   the current process is
varies from "thanks for paying, here's your access card" to "please don't
use the lathe/mill/lasercutter without getting some some instruction
first".       Both of those are a start, but we need to do better.

So... I ask *YOU*.... What important information would/will make a new,
just-paid-up member's experience better.      ( If you are a new member,
and there is something you learned "by omosis" , please speak-up, as we
should probably have this written down some place better! )

I'm rather not make this a "dont do these things" list, so can we word
suggestion/s positively, please.

Here's some of my ideas:
* please contact Eric or Lemming ( our Trainers) if you wish to use the
Lathe or (large) Mill, as you need to be signed-off on basic safety first.
* please contact Lionel if you'd like to get something laser-cut or milled
on the little (PCB) CNC Mill. ( He owns these ) .
* Please label things.   Everything.    If its yours, label it.   Put your
Name on it.   If it's not yours, but you know who's it is, label it with
*their* name.
* If something is not labeled, then it might get (a) used by someone else,
or (b)  moved into some dark corner of the space or  (c) thrown out.
* Donation/Loan Stickers are available for things that either you want
back, or that you donate that are valuable ( eg LCD's, oscilliscopes, power
tools, etc )
* If you have crap at your house that you dont want, we don't want it
either.  ( unless it's cool or awesome, but then it's not crap, ok.   )

Any others?

Buzz.

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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:12:13 +1000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2012 9:12 pm
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

If you have something that you want to give to the space, label it with a
throw-out-by date. if it's not used by this date it will be binned.

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 More options Aug 23 2012, 9:12 pm
From: Brendan Halliday <n...@hsbne.org>
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:12:41 +1000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2012 9:12 pm
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

Thanks for this list Buzz, it's actually really useful right now given I'm
working on a small induction booklet thing.

I'll add the induction process to the agenda because it's also something we
need to talk about and I would like more suggestions for what to put in it
:)

Cheers,
Brendan/nogthree
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From: Joshua Hogendorn <jhogend...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:13:01 +1000
Local: Thurs, Aug 23 2012 9:13 pm
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

All great points.

We need to inform people of fire and chemical safety also.
probably should cover what sort of consumables the space provides.
some of the more important rules we have, like dont sleep in the space, 5 days notice of purchase request etc etc.

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From: Brendan C / theban <brendancarmich...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:03:56 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Aug 24 2012 2:03 am
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

As someone who joined nearly 2 months ago, here are my thoughts:

   - Pretty much everything mentioned so far should be explicitly stated.
    Most I picked up, but it would be easy to miss some things.
   - Name signs on the edges of desks/workspaces aren't immediately
   obvious.  The space is very visually busy and the names are usually written
   on duct tape under the ledge - they don't stand out.  Not a problem once
   you know they're there, but it took me 2/3 weeks to notice them.
      - I notice around Sean's area there are benches with black/yellow
      warning tape.  Is that an indication that those are his spaces?  That's not
      at all clear.
   - Names on tools.  Are un-labelled tools by default the spaces or
   personal?  I'll happily respect the exclusivity of other's tools (without
   asking), but at the same time if there's a tool not currently being used by
   someone that appears to be the space's I'll use it.  (Resulting in me
   taking one of Josh's tools from in front of him without asking and making
   him think I'm a huge dick :P )  Obviously it's courteous to ask if you're
   not sure if someone's using it.
   - Fire exits are easily identifiable.   Though it should be pointed out
   that at Light St, once you've gone out the back exit, to escape you need to
   go left - Intuitively, I would think to go right.
   - Chemical safety stuff is common sense: If you don't know what it is,
   don't touch it until you learn lots more.  Though I do understand the
   desire to explicitly state it.
   - Where the light switches are
   - how to lock up
   - Mention the reset switch on the front roller door RFID reader.  Needed
   to use it the other day, but had I been taller may not have noticed it.
   - Parking in and at the space.  I only know the rules because I followed
   the newsgroup for a while before joining.
   - The webcam's there.  (What if someone went to change their clothes,
   thinking they had a bit of privacy, when they were actually showing off to
   the Internet)

- Brendan C / theban


 
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Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 08:29:29 +1000
Local: Fri, Aug 24 2012 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

Photos to add to induction

Ring Ring

Sorry Geoff :) but I thought you might be late to cleanup day if you slept
in too late.

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Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 23:57:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Aug 26 2012 2:57 am
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda
An induction booklet of some sort would be great and the more that's
in there the better, I showed up at the hackspace only knowing that
there were tools there and people to talk to, I knew NOTHING about how
the space worked or any of the procedures for anything and since I've
joined I've been busy bringing myself up to speed.

First and foremost there's safety, which has been said but I've
noticed on the main hackerspace website there's a template for forms
regarding liability, I think there should be a folder of pre-printed
forms that people have to sign before they can join.

Then there's the really basic theory of what a hackspace actually is,
the ethos of it, the culture, people may be reluctant to help out and
share their knowledge if they think it's just a pay to use workshop.


 
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Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:18:55 +1000
Local: Sun, Aug 26 2012 3:18 am
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

> First and foremost there's safety, which has been said but I've
> noticed on the main hackerspace website there's a template for forms
> regarding liability, I think there should be a folder of pre-printed
> forms that people have to sign before they can join.

There is no legal need for any form/s to be signed by members.

Also note, there is no members indemnity insurance, so if you are unhappy
with the safety of something, it's your responsibility to look after
yourself, no-one else-s.

Everything you do as a member, you are 100% liable for.     The form/s
listed online are for our "public liability insurance", and this only
covers the public ( visitors, non-members ), and only for typical public
liability concerns ( like falling and slipping and that sort of thing) .

 Buzz.


 
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From: Brendan Halliday <n...@hsbne.org>
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:38:42 +1000
Local: Sun, Aug 26 2012 3:38 am
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

Just to add to this, there's two more things to add to the agenda.

6. There's a large amount of wood to be chipped/mulched at the new site.
Josh/devians would like the group to vote on whether or not we should hire
a wood chipper for a day to get rid of it. This would come out of the $1000
budget that has already been set for materials for the new site, but we
would like to run it past the group in case someone has access to a wood
chipper for cheaper or can offer a better option.
7. It's now been two months since there was a call for voting/discussion on
which part of the office building at the new space we're taking the walls
out of. Currently the prevailing opinion is that Option 2 is what we're
going ahead with but it would be nice to have this voted on and cemented.
More info about this is at http://bit.ly/QEReyX and if we have time it'd be
nice to discuss a layout/floor plan.

Cheers,
Brendan/nogthree
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Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:41:33 +1000
Local: Sun, Aug 26 2012 4:41 am
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

As I said at http://bit.ly/QEReyX

If you have any other ideas please speak up. Some members mentiond to do
option 2 but to not leave the 2 rooms at the east end of the building.

Jimmy


 
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:50:03 +1000
Local: Mon, Aug 27 2012 6:50 am
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda

As I won't be there on Tuesday night I will be placing in a proxy vote soon
with the exec..


 
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:30:36 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Aug 27 2012 10:30 pm
Subject: Re: Meeting 28 August Agenda
I have a rehearsal tonight so probably won't be in till about 9:30pm.
You can count my vote for vending and drink machines, although I would
prefer if we left those purchases until after we move into the new
space. They would be a pain to have to move.

On the issue of tools going missing or getting broken I think we
definitely need some rules/guidelines and an induction for new members/
visitors. I don't think we need to be nazis about rules, but basically
if you use a tool; put it back in its proper place before you leave!
If something breaks; have a box or a place to put broken things so we
know they need replacing, or see if they can be repaired.

Lionel...

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