> <geek comedy>

> http://store.apple.com/uk/product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-5mm-to-digital-o...

> Digital Optical audio cable.

> * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum conductivity
> * Other Features: Shielded
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> Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly inaccurate
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> Digital Optical audio cable.

> * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum conductivity
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> Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly inaccurate claims?    

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>  unfortunately this sort of thing is par for the course as soon as you
> say the word 'audio'

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> On Thursday, 11 October 2012 at 1:29 PM, buzz wrote:

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> Digital Optical audio cable.

> * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum conductivity
> * Other Features: Shielded
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> Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly inaccurate
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> reminded me of this

> http://scoopertino.com/apple-blasts-into-supermarkets-with-revolution...

> On 11 October 2012 13:33, Joshua Hogendorn <jhogend...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>  unfortunately this sort of thing is par for the course as soon as you
>> say the word 'audio'

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>> On Thursday, 11 October 2012 at 1:29 PM, buzz wrote:

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>> http://store.apple.com/uk/product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-5mm-to-digital-o...

>> Digital Optical audio cable.

>> * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum conductivity
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>> Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly inaccurate
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> I can't find the original thing, but monster's HDMI cables have long been
> guilty of hilariously overpriced cables:

> http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/04/the-great-cable-rip-off-for-visual-...

> Look at their HDMI cable "family":

> http://www.monstercable.com/hdmi/HDMI_Cable_Information.asp

> They've also made variants of the gold plated optical audio cables.

> On 11 October 2012 13:36, Luke Irwin <bujinka...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> reminded me of this

>> http://scoopertino.com/apple-blasts-into-supermarkets-with-revolution...

>> On 11 October 2012 13:33, Joshua Hogendorn <jhogend...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>  unfortunately this sort of thing is par for the course as soon as you
>>> say the word 'audio'

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>>> <geek comedy>

>>> http://store.apple.com/uk/product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-5mm-to-digital-o...

>>> Digital Optical audio cable.

>>> * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum conductivity
>>> * Other Features: Shielded
>>> * flexible outer jacket eliminates light reflection

>>> Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly inaccurate
>>> claims?

>>> Buzz.

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> The cable is cool but is it oxygen free?
> Matthew Costa

> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:46 PM, tjhowse <tjh...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:

>> I can't find the original thing, but monster's HDMI cables have long been
>> guilty of hilariously overpriced cables:

>> http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/04/the-great-cable-rip-off-for-visual-...

>> Look at their HDMI cable "family":

>> http://www.monstercable.com/hdmi/HDMI_Cable_Information.asp

>> They've also made variants of the gold plated optical audio cables.

>> On 11 October 2012 13:36, Luke Irwin <bujin...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:

>>> reminded me of this

>>> http://scoopertino.com/apple-blasts-into-supermarkets-with-revolution...

>>> On 11 October 2012 13:33, Joshua Hogendorn <jhoge...@gmail.com<javascript:>
>>> > wrote:

>>>>  unfortunately this sort of thing is par for the course as soon as you
>>>> say the word 'audio'

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>>>> On Thursday, 11 October 2012 at 1:29 PM, buzz wrote:

>>>> <geek comedy>

>>>> http://store.apple.com/uk/product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-5mm-to-digital-o...

>>>> Digital Optical audio cable.

>>>> * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum
>>>> conductivity
>>>> * Other Features: Shielded
>>>> * flexible outer jacket eliminates light reflection

>>>> Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly inaccurate
>>>> claims?    

>>>> Buzz.

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> When I worked at DSE I'd often talk people out of buying monster cables.
> If only this article was written then, I probably would have had a higher
> success rate:

> http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/03/audiophiles-cant-tell-the-differen...

> On Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:56:57 PM UTC+10, Costa wrote:

>> The cable is cool but is it oxygen free?
>> Matthew Costa

>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:46 PM, tjhowse <tjh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>  I can't find the original thing, but monster's HDMI cables have long
>>> been guilty of hilariously overpriced cables:

>>> http://www.gizmodo.com.au/**2010/04/the-great-cable-rip-**
>>> off-for-visual-learners/<http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/04/the-great-cable-rip-off-for-visual-...>

>>> Look at their HDMI cable "family":

>>> http://www.monstercable.com/**hdmi/HDMI_Cable_Information.**asp<http://www.monstercable.com/hdmi/HDMI_Cable_Information.asp>

>>> They've also made variants of the gold plated optical audio cables.

>>> On 11 October 2012 13:36, Luke Irwin <bujin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> reminded me of this

>>>> http://scoopertino.com/apple-**blasts-into-supermarkets-with-**
>>>> revolutionary-apple-water/<http://scoopertino.com/apple-blasts-into-supermarkets-with-revolution...>

>>>> On 11 October 2012 13:33, Joshua Hogendorn <jhoge...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>  unfortunately this sort of thing is par for the course as soon as
>>>>> you say the word 'audio'

>>>>> --
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>>>>> On Thursday, 11 October 2012 at 1:29 PM, buzz wrote:

>>>>> <geek comedy>
>>>>> http://store.apple.com/uk/**product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-**
>>>>> 5mm-to-digital-optical-cable<http://store.apple.com/uk/product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-5mm-to-digital-o...>

>>>>> Digital Optical audio cable.

>>>>> * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum
>>>>> conductivity
>>>>> * Other Features: Shielded
>>>>> * flexible outer jacket eliminates light reflection

>>>>> Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly
>>>>> inaccurate claims?

>>>>> Buzz.

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> my favourite part of the description is the "eliminates light reflection"
> part.

> We know that without total-internal reflection* an optical cable is
> useless, so saying you've "eliminated reflection" is just saying your cable
> is non-functional.

> Buzz.

> * If you don't know, read
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_internal_reflection

> On 11 October 2012 14:03, Spoz <mr.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> When I worked at DSE I'd often talk people out of buying monster cables.
>> If only this article was written then, I probably would have had a higher
>> success rate:

>> http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/03/audiophiles-cant-tell-the-differen...

>> On Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:56:57 PM UTC+10, Costa wrote:

>>> The cable is cool but is it oxygen free?
>>> Matthew Costa

>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:46 PM, tjhowse <tjh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>  I can't find the original thing, but monster's HDMI cables have long
>>>> been guilty of hilariously overpriced cables:

>>>> http://www.gizmodo.com.au/**2010/04/the-great-cable-rip-**
>>>> off-for-visual-learners/<http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/04/the-great-cable-rip-off-for-visual-...>

>>>> Look at their HDMI cable "family":

>>>> http://www.monstercable.com/**hdmi/HDMI_Cable_Information.**asp<http://www.monstercable.com/hdmi/HDMI_Cable_Information.asp>

>>>> They've also made variants of the gold plated optical audio cables.

>>>> On 11 October 2012 13:36, Luke Irwin <bujin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>> reminded me of this

>>>>> http://scoopertino.com/apple-**blasts-into-supermarkets-with-**
>>>>> revolutionary-apple-water/<http://scoopertino.com/apple-blasts-into-supermarkets-with-revolution...>

>>>>> On 11 October 2012 13:33, Joshua Hogendorn <jhoge...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>  unfortunately this sort of thing is par for the course as soon as
>>>>>> you say the word 'audio'

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>>>>>> PH: 0407710007

>>>>>> On Thursday, 11 October 2012 at 1:29 PM, buzz wrote:

>>>>>> <geek comedy>
>>>>>> http://store.apple.com/uk/**product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-**
>>>>>> 5mm-to-digital-optical-cable<http://store.apple.com/uk/product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-5mm-to-digital-o...>

>>>>>> Digital Optical audio cable.

>>>>>> * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum
>>>>>> conductivity
>>>>>> * Other Features: Shielded
>>>>>> * flexible outer jacket eliminates light reflection

>>>>>> Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly
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> <geek comedy>http://store.apple.com/uk/product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-5mm-to-digital-o...

> Digital Optical audio cable.

> * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum conductivity
> * Other Features: Shielded
> * flexible outer jacket eliminates light reflection

> Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly inaccurate
> claims?

> Buzz.

> You think that's bad? Behold:
> http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/aopenax4btube/

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> http://store.apple.com/uk/product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-5mm-to-digital-o...

> > Digital Optical audio cable.

> > * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum conductivity
> > * Other Features: Shielded
> > * flexible outer jacket eliminates light reflection

> > Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly inaccurate
> > claims?

> > Buzz.

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> Nice valve powered motherboard!   That's so retro , and they call it
> "state of the art"... or is it steam-punk?

> On 11 October 2012 16:03, OperaMan <lione...@big.net.au> wrote:

>> You think that's bad? Behold:
>> http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/aopenax4btube/

>> On Oct 11, 1:29 pm, buzz <davidb...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> http://store.apple.com/uk/product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-5mm-to-digital-o...

>> > Digital Optical audio cable.

>> > * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum
>> conductivity
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>> > Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly inaccurate
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> I call it "wank-punk". What an utterly useless piece of crap.

> On 11 October 2012 16:45, buzz <davidb...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Nice valve powered motherboard!   That's so retro , and they call it
>> "state of the art"... or is it steam-punk?

>> On 11 October 2012 16:03, OperaMan <lione...@big.net.au> wrote:

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>>> http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/aopenax4btube/

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>>> http://store.apple.com/uk/product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-5mm-to-digital-o...

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>>> > * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum
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>>> > * Other Features: Shielded
>>> > * flexible outer jacket eliminates light reflection

>>> > Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly inaccurate
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> @least it is cheaper than one of these
> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AudioQuest+-+Diamond+16.4%26%2339%3B+USB+...

> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:11 PM, tjhowse <tjho...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I call it "wank-punk". What an utterly useless piece of crap.

>> On 11 October 2012 16:45, buzz <davidb...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Nice valve powered motherboard!   That's so retro , and they call it
>>> "state of the art"... or is it steam-punk?

>>> On 11 October 2012 16:03, OperaMan <lione...@big.net.au> wrote:

>>>> You think that's bad? Behold:
>>>> http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/aopenax4btube/

>>>> On Oct 11, 1:29 pm, buzz <davidb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > <geek comedy>
>>>> http://store.apple.com/uk/product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-5mm-to-digital-o.
>>>> ..

>>>> > Digital Optical audio cable.

>>>> > * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum
>>>> conductivity
>>>> > * Other Features: Shielded
>>>> > * flexible outer jacket eliminates light reflection

>>>> > Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly
>>>> inaccurate
>>>> > claims?

>>>> > Buzz.

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> I read an audio magazine review of a 100 dollar usb cable which waxed
> lyrical about its warm bass and crisp high frequency response.  sadly i am
> not joking.

> On Oct 11, 2012 5:15 PM, "Jimmy Bowler" <denomina...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> @least it is cheaper than one of these
>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AudioQuest+-+Diamond+16.4%26%2339%3B+USB+...

>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:11 PM, tjhowse <tjho...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> I call it "wank-punk". What an utterly useless piece of crap.

>>> On 11 October 2012 16:45, buzz <davidb...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Nice valve powered motherboard!   That's so retro , and they call it
>>>> "state of the art"... or is it steam-punk?

>>>> On 11 October 2012 16:03, OperaMan <lione...@big.net.au> wrote:

>>>>> You think that's bad? Behold:
>>>>> http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/aopenax4btube/

>>>>> On Oct 11, 1:29 pm, buzz <davidb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > <geek
>>>>> > comedy>http://store.apple.com/uk/product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-5mm-to-digital-o...

>>>>> > Digital Optical audio cable.

>>>>> > * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum
>>>>> > conductivity
>>>>> > * Other Features: Shielded
>>>>> > * flexible outer jacket eliminates light reflection

>>>>> > Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly
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>>>>> > Buzz.

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> I'll just leave this here...

> http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/03/14/hdmi-cable-protects-your-x...

> Don't want you're cable getting a virus!

> On 11 October 2012 16:06, John Williams <j...@whelanwilliams.net> wrote:
> > I read an audio magazine review of a 100 dollar usb cable which waxed
> > lyrical about its warm bass and crisp high frequency response.  sadly i
> am
> > not joking.

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> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AudioQuest+-+Diamond+16.4%26%2339%3B+USB+...

> >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:11 PM, tjhowse <tjho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>> I call it "wank-punk". What an utterly useless piece of crap.

> >>> On 11 October 2012 16:45, buzz <davidb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>>> Nice valve powered motherboard!   That's so retro , and they call it
> >>>> "state of the art"... or is it steam-punk?

> >>>> On 11 October 2012 16:03, OperaMan <lione...@big.net.au> wrote:

> >>>>> You think that's bad? Behold:
> >>>>> http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/aopenax4btube/

> >>>>> On Oct 11, 1:29 pm, buzz <davidb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> > <geek
> >>>>> > comedy>
> http://store.apple.com/uk/product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-5mm-to-digital-o...

> >>>>> > Digital Optical audio cable.

> >>>>> > * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum
> >>>>> > conductivity
> >>>>> > * Other Features: Shielded
> >>>>> > * flexible outer jacket eliminates light reflection

> >>>>> > Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly
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> >>>>> > Buzz.

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> Funny but i suspect an innocent translation error here.

> Replace 'virus noise' with 'parasitic noise' and all of a sudden it almost
> makes sense....
> On Oct 24, 2012 4:21 PM, "Daniel Harmsworth" <danielharmswo...@gmail.com>
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>> I'll just leave this here...

>> http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/03/14/hdmi-cable-protects-your-x...

>> Don't want you're cable getting a virus!

>> On 11 October 2012 16:06, John Williams <j...@whelanwilliams.net> wrote:
>> > I read an audio magazine review of a 100 dollar usb cable which waxed
>> > lyrical about its warm bass and crisp high frequency response.  sadly i
>> am
>> > not joking.

>> > On Oct 11, 2012 5:15 PM, "Jimmy Bowler" <denomina...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> >> @least it is cheaper than one of these

>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AudioQuest+-+Diamond+16.4%26%2339%3B+USB+...

>> >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:11 PM, tjhowse <tjho...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> >>> I call it "wank-punk". What an utterly useless piece of crap.

>> >>> On 11 October 2012 16:45, buzz <davidb...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> >>>> Nice valve powered motherboard!   That's so retro , and they call it
>> >>>> "state of the art"... or is it steam-punk?

>> >>>> On 11 October 2012 16:03, OperaMan <lione...@big.net.au> wrote:

>> >>>>> You think that's bad? Behold:
>> >>>>> http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/aopenax4btube/

>> >>>>> On Oct 11, 1:29 pm, buzz <davidb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> > <geek
>> >>>>> > comedy>
>> http://store.apple.com/uk/product/H7124ZM/A/iwires-3-5mm-to-digital-o...

>> >>>>> > Digital Optical audio cable.

>> >>>>> > * 24K Gold plated connectors for precise contact and maximum
>> >>>>> > conductivity
>> >>>>> > * Other Features: Shielded
>> >>>>> > * flexible outer jacket eliminates light reflection

>> >>>>> > Does anyone else see a problem with these stupid and grossly
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>> >>>>> > claims?

>> >>>>> > Buzz.

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