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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Who wants to build a 3D printer?
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sure! that'd be great!
On Sep 25, 2012 4:58 PM, "sighmon" <simon.loff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think this'd be a great dedicated hack session group build.
>
> Maybe Pix + fee on a desk in front of whoever is keen to watch, and
> pull apart / rebuild in a session.
>
> Separate it from general hacking so you don't get distracted, but
> please do run it during a hack session.
>
> si.
>
> On Sep 25, 3:11 pm, Ryan Leach <ryan.the.le...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sounds like smart thinking fee.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Fee Plumley <f...@technoevangelist.net
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > i'm coming in really late to this thread to say ideally i'd like to
> take
> > > the thingomatic apart and rebuild it so that i know how it works and
> how to
> > > fix it when it (inevitably) breaks every three days while i'm a nomadic
> > > fablab.
> > > but that needs to be numpty-level (which is pre-beginner).
> >
> > > On 25 September 2012 13:38, Steven Pickles <thatpix...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >> ahhh, so many questions answered now!
> >
> > >> On 25 September 2012 12:48, Jonathan Wheare <jonathanwhe...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> > >>> Pix & Ryan, I just double checked and the Start_PLA file in
> > >>> skeinforge/skeinforge_applications/alterations/ has the line:
> >
> > >>> M92 X 80
> >
> > >>> This adjusts the steps per milimeter of the x-axis for the
> hackerspace
> > >>> huxleys different gear size.  I would suggest ensuring this line is
> > >>> removed before using the profile with Paul or Ryans huxleys.
> >
> > >>> J.
> >
> > >>> On Tue, 2012-09-25 at 12:13 +0930, Paul Schulz wrote:
> > >>> > Pix et.al. as a data point..
> >
> > >>> > I printed the 'tardis' from STL (rather than the gcode file that
> was
> > >>> > there) and it came out square (ie with the correct aspect ratio).
> >
> > >>> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Steven Pickles <
> thatpix...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > >https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0eeHNdAxmwfazVIR1dYN216LXc
> >
> > >>> > > there is some unnecessary bloat in there like gcode etc...
> >
> > >>> > > pix
> >
> > >>> > > On 25 September 2012 11:46, Jonathan Wheare <
> > >>> jonathanwhe...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > wrote:
> >
> > >>> > >> Thanks Pix, I just realised I don't have the right profile on my
> > >>> laptop.
> >
> > >>> > >> J.
> >
> > >>> > >> On Tue, 2012-09-25 at 11:45 +0930, Steven Pickles wrote:
> > >>> > >> > i had trouble slicing with the latest git pull, weird aspect
> > >>> ratio. i
> > >>> > >> > ended up copying the profile from the huxley netbook too.
> >
> > >>> > >> > im uploading it to google drive now, will post a link shortly.
> >
> > >>> > >> > pix
> >
> > >>> > >> > On 25 September 2012 11:37, Ryan Leach <
> ryan.the.le...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > >> > wrote:
> > >>> > >> >         Jon, any chance of getting the hackerspaces firmware
> and
> > >>> > >> >         skeinforge settings uploaded to the wiki or a github?
> >
> > >>> > >> >         been trying to get back into hacking/3d printing but
> it's
> > >>> > >> >         doing my head in, (still facing the same old problems
> > >>> assuming
> > >>> > >> >         its a combination of a bug fix in april, my skeinforge
> > >>> > >> >         settings being out of date, and possible thermistor
> > >>> settings)
> >
> > >>> > >> >         also does anyone happen to know what the default
> settings
> > >>> for
> > >>> > >> >         the xmas huxley kits were supposed to be?
> >
> > >>> > >> >         On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Jonathan Wheare
> > >>> > >> >         <jonathanwhe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> > >> >                 I am in the process of build a Mendel using a
> mix
> > >>> of
> > >>> > >> >                 parts from the
> > >>> > >> >                 Prusa Mk2 and RRP designs.  The ability to
> support
> > >>> > >> >                 multiple extruders is
> > >>> > >> >                 quite interesting.
> > >>> > >> >                 Currently the frame is assembled, but I'm
> still
> > >>> having
> > >>> > >> >                 troubles with the
> > >>> > >> >                 x-carriage print warping.
> >
> > >>> > >> >                 J.
> >
> > >>> > >> >                 On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 18:35 -0700,
> > >>> b...@iinet.net.au
> > >>> > >> >                 wrote:
> > >>> > >> >                 > Hi J,
> > >>> > >> >                 > Yes, I was told that at the show, that's
> why I
> > >>> wet
> > >>> > >> >                 Webbing for info on the RepRapPro kits.  What
> was
> > >>> the
> > >>> > >> >                 PS problem - I'll check if fixed!
> > >>> > >> >                 > Anyone built the the RepRapPro Mendel in
> Adel?
> > >>>  That
> > >>> > >> >                 is what I am interested in.
> > >>> > >> >                 > Brenton
> >
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<p>sure! that&#39;d be great!</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 25, 2012 4:58 PM, &quot;sighmon&quot; &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.loff...@gmail.com">simon.loff...@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I think this&#39;d be a great dedicated hack session group build.<br>
<br>
Maybe Pix + fee on a desk in front of whoever is keen to watch, and<br>
pull apart / rebuild in a session.<br>
<br>
Separate it from general hacking so you don&#39;t get distracted, but<br>
please do run it during a hack session.<br>
<br>
si.<br>
<br>
On Sep 25, 3:11=C2=A0pm, Ryan Leach &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ryan.the.le...@gm=
ail.com">ryan.the.le...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Sounds like smart thinking fee.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Fee Plumley &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:f..=
....@technoevangelist.net">f...@technoevangelist.net</a>&gt;wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; i&#39;m coming in really late to this thread to say ideally i&#39=
;d like to take<br>
&gt; &gt; the thingomatic apart and rebuild it so that i know how it works =
and how to<br>
&gt; &gt; fix it when it (inevitably) breaks every three days while i&#39;m=
 a nomadic<br>
&gt; &gt; fablab.<br>
&gt; &gt; but that needs to be numpty-level (which is pre-beginner).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; On 25 September 2012 13:38, Steven Pickles &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
thatpix...@gmail.com">thatpix...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; ahhh, so many questions answered now!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; On 25 September 2012 12:48, Jonathan Wheare &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:jonathanwhe...@gmail.com">jonathanwhe...@gmail.com</a>&gt;wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Pix &amp; Ryan, I just double checked and the Start_PLA f=
ile in<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; skeinforge/skeinforge_applications/alterations/ has the l=
ine:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; M92 X 80<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; This adjusts the steps per milimeter of the x-axis for th=
e hackerspace<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; huxleys different gear size. =C2=A0I would suggest ensuri=
ng this line is<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; removed before using the profile with Paul or Ryans huxle=
ys.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; J.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On Tue, 2012-09-25 at 12:13 +0930, Paul Schulz wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Pix <a href=3D"http://et.al" target=3D"_blank">et.al=
</a>. as a data point..<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I printed the &#39;tardis&#39; from STL (rather than=
 the gcode file that was<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; there) and it came out square (ie with the correct a=
spect ratio).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Steven Pickles &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:thatpix...@gmail.com">thatpix...@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/open?id=3D0B0=
eeHNdAxmwfazVIR1dYN216LXc" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.google.com/open?i=
d=3D0B0eeHNdAxmwfazVIR1dYN216LXc</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; there is some unnecessary bloat in there like g=
code etc...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; pix<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; On 25 September 2012 11:46, Jonathan Wheare &lt=
;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:jonathanwhe...@gmail.com">jonathanwhe..=
....@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Thanks Pix, I just realised I don&#39;t hav=
e the right profile on my<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; laptop.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; J.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; On Tue, 2012-09-25 at 11:45 +0930, Steven P=
ickles wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; i had trouble slicing with the latest =
git pull, weird aspect<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; ratio. i<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; ended up copying the profile from the =
huxley netbook too.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; im uploading it to google drive now, w=
ill post a link shortly.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; pix<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; On 25 September 2012 11:37, Ryan Leach=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ryan.the.le...@gmail.com">ryan.the.le...@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jon, any c=
hance of getting the hackerspaces firmware and<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 skeinforge=
 settings uploaded to the wiki or a github?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 been tryin=
g to get back into hacking/3d printing but it&#39;s<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 doing my h=
ead in, (still facing the same old problems<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; assuming<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 its a comb=
ination of a bug fix in april, my skeinforge<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 settings b=
eing out of date, and possible thermistor<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; settings)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 also does =
anyone happen to know what the default settings<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; for<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the xmas h=
uxley kits were supposed to be?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Wed, Au=
g 15, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Jonathan Wheare<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:jonathanwhe...@gmail.com">jonathanwhe...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I am in the process of build a Mendel using a mix<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; of<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 parts from the<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Prusa Mk2 and RRP designs. =C2=A0The ability to support<b=
r>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 multiple extruders is<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 quite interesting.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Currently the frame is assembled, but I&#39;m still<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; having<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 troubles with the<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 x-carriage print warping.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 J.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 18:35 -0700,<br>
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><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
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&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
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&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; Yes, I was told that at the show, that&#39;s why I<b=
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&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; wet<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Webbing for info on the RepRapPro kits. =C2=A0What was<br=
>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; the<br>
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