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Kylie Willison  
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From: Kylie Willison <k...@bridgeonline.com.au>
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 20:19:40 +0930
Local: Mon, Jul 2 2012 6:49 am
Subject: Blog
Hi
Could we have some social media sharing options on the blog please?

Thanks, Kylie


 
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 20:11:22 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jul 2 2012 11:11 pm
Subject: Re: Blog
Good idea.
Remind me next hack session.. there are a few things on the list of
updates.

s.

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From: Tamsyn Michael <tamsyn.j.mich...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 15:43:20 +1000
Local: Tues, Jul 3 2012 1:43 am
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

http://mashable.com/2009/03/29/sharing-great-posts/


 
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Ken  
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 More options Jul 3 2012, 2:04 am
From: Ken <k...@waggies.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 15:34:18 +0930
Local: Tues, Jul 3 2012 2:04 am
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

OK, call me anti-social, but what is being promoted there comes close to
SPAM.

I tolerate Facebook with a much reduced presence from before because it is
mostly noise.
(Have you guys read how it has been replacing email addresses in
address-books with Facebook addresses, on a synch? -It get worse and worse.)
My G+ circles mostly contain technical types.

Twitter seems to me mostly for people who have nothing better to do than
hang off other people's words.

Digg... well maybe.

I reckon this hackerspace occasionally comes up with real gems.  Which is
why I am a 'member', and why I read each post as it comes in.
As an engineering type, the arty-farty stuff doesn't appeal, but the
crossover from electronics to art is still interesting to me.

However... blindly linking stuff all over the social network is exactly why
I withdrew from Facebook (as well as where it is going ... advertising >
privacy).
I subscribe to the things I want to see.
Anything else can be just noise, which detracts from the goodies.
Yes, sometimes a random hit can be serendipity.  Usually not.

So please consider how much your potential audience will want to see the
type of thing you are promoting, before you hit those 'share' buttons.

</grumble>
Ken.

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sighmon  
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 More options Jul 3 2012, 7:23 pm
From: sighmon <simon.loff...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 16:23:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Blog
Ken: filter/unsubscribe are your real friends on Facebook. Use them to
filter your noisy friends.

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Ken  
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 More options Jul 3 2012, 7:31 pm
From: Ken <k...@waggies.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 09:01:08 +0930
Local: Tues, Jul 3 2012 7:31 pm
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

Thanks.
The other method is to ditch one's Facebook account, create a new alias
one, and not tell anyone about the new profile.  :)

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Fee Plumley  
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 More options Jul 3 2012, 7:34 pm
From: Fee Plumley <f...@technoevangelist.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 09:04:30 +0930
Local: Tues, Jul 3 2012 7:34 pm
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

or just *tell* people you're shutting the account, then unfriend them &
change your account name/profile photo & go private.

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Ken  
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 More options Jul 3 2012, 7:41 pm
From: Ken <k...@waggies.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 09:11:45 +0930
Local: Tues, Jul 3 2012 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

You are NO example of going private, Fee.
A google search on you produces a zillion hits.  :)

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Tamsyn Michael  
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From: Tamsyn Michael <tamsyn.j.mich...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 09:15:54 +0930
Local: Tues, Jul 3 2012 7:45 pm
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

It's easy enough to just 'unsubscribe' from someone's posts if they are too
'noisy' (Good turn of phrase Simon).  Or a group's posts, come to that.
I'm pro having sharing options so I can post the awesome stuff on my
timeline.  It's not like we have updates on the hour or anything - a max of
2 times a fortnight my friends who aren't into cool geek stuff can deal
with it - chances are if I have any of them left they've already
unsubscribed from me anyway.

PS  Robots!


 
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Fee Plumley  
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 More options Jul 3 2012, 7:52 pm
From: Fee Plumley <f...@technoevangelist.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 09:22:13 +0930
Local: Tues, Jul 3 2012 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

I'm a fully-fledged social media floozy... and proud of it, Ken!

I do have private accounts in various platforms & I make good use of the
filters/lists that Simon recommends. But I am very public these days, yes.
You'd probably hate following my twitter & fb feeds... my shares are also
often artyfarty!

Right now I'm especially noisy, for the crowdfunding campaign, but I love
being fully part of the internet world!

Happy to chat on/offlist about ways to wrangle platforms for better peace
of mind, if you ever need to. I might not practice quiet, but I know how to
achieve it.

Bests, f.

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Kim Hawtin  
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 More options Jul 3 2012, 8:59 pm
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Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 10:29:17 +0930
Local: Tues, Jul 3 2012 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Fee Plumley <f...@technoevangelist.net> wrote:
> But I am very public these days, yes.
> You'd probably hate following my twitter & fb feeds...

facebook is abandonware these days and twitter is only useful if your
client can filter out posts with keyword searches to keep the signal
to noise ratio sensible. g+ is a whole lot better, content wise, but
its quietened down in the last couple of months.

TBH, the vast majority of my reading is from RSS feeds from blogs these days.
1hr20 offline[1] commutes need to be filled with a decent read.

cheers,

Kim
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Fee Plumley  
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From: Fee Plumley <f...@technoevangelist.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 11:07:26 +0930
Local: Tues, Jul 3 2012 9:37 pm
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

hehe, then i'd say you're following the wrong people! i get a lot of noise
but i also have an enormous amount of signal. often from the same people
(so you have to be careful with those filters...).

but then it's horses for courses, right? you choose what suits you. that's
how it all works. I speak/share differently in different spaces, because
they have different timescales/audiences.

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Ryan Leach  
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Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 21:08:58 +0930
Local: Fri, Jul 6 2012 7:38 am
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

Ken, how does ADDING them effect you. Don't like it don't click them... IMO
links to hackerspace on Facebook can only improve Facebook content compared
to the usual trash, as well as promote our group.
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 More options Jul 6 2012, 7:42 am
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Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 21:12:10 +0930
Local: Fri, Jul 6 2012 7:42 am
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

*like*

:)


 
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Ken  
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Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 13:44:43 +0930
Local: Mon, Jul 9 2012 12:14 am
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

Hi Ryan.

Adding link buttons is fine.
What I'd *hate* to see, is where I'm forced to have a Facebook, or G+, (or
MySpace or...) account to get the full benefit/communication from Adelaide
Hackerspace.
I don't dispute that hackerspace links showing up on Facebook can only
improve Facebook's content.

(Today is my day for hammering Hackerspace, cos my new house has crap Optus
coverage, and I don't have ADSL on there yet. So until I get ADSL, I can't
activate an Optus micro-cell thingie to give me good mobile coverage in my
house.  -And I thought I could ride out the ADSL gap by using my mobile
tethered. Ha.)

Ken.

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Steven Pickles  
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 More options Jul 9 2012, 1:14 am
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Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 14:44:33 +0930
Local: Mon, Jul 9 2012 1:14 am
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

On 9 July 2012 13:44, Ken <k...@waggies.net> wrote:

> What I'd *hate* to see, is where I'm forced to have a Facebook, or G+,
> (or MySpace or...) account to get the full benefit/communication from
> Adelaide Hackerspace.
> I don't dispute that hackerspace links showing up on Facebook can only
> improve Facebook's content.

I definitely don't want that either Ken. Feel free to point it out if you
think that is starting to happen, but I don't think that is the case at the
moment. Obviously you will miss out on posts on the facebook page, but I
barely pay attention to them myself so they can't be too critical. Rob has
even given up making facebook event postings, (though I wouldn't mind if
someone picked that task up again). It's just horses for courses. Some
people like facebook, Twitter, etc. so we maintain a presence there to
increase our catchment.

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Fee Plumley  
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 More options Jul 9 2012, 1:33 am
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Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 15:03:24 +0930
Local: Mon, Jul 9 2012 1:33 am
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

could always have a page instead of a group, so ppl can see w/o logging in.
or share feed to blog...
options=endless ;)

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Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 15:08:36 +0930
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

Noooooooooo.
We shouldn't have to go to Facebook etc AT ALL to see hackerspace stuff.
Correct me if you think I'm wrong, but on a smartphone, apps like Facebook
are insidious, in that they have access to all your accounts.  So
maintaining separate usernames, logins, etc to retain some privacy, just
doesn't work.
Safer to use the browser.

(I'll let Google know who I really am, but not Facebook.)

Ken.

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Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 15:09:10 +0930
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

FFS Ken, read the OP

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Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 15:14:25 +0930
Local: Mon, Jul 9 2012 1:44 am
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

*cools down*

Fee's suggestion was that we could convert the existing  (completely
non-critical by the way) facebook group into a facebook page. This has the
added benefit that you can see the contents without being logged in to
facebook.

Alternatively, we could have the contents of the facebook group exported
out to our blog, again so that you can see the content without having to
have a facebook account.

So this was a post all about how we could remove any need for anyone to
have a facebook to view even this tiniest sliver of hackerspace related
activity, and yet you reply with "Noooooooo +rant".

We understand your views on facebook (even if we are possibly baffled by
your double standard regarding Google), but if you just have a knee jerk
rant every time someone mentions the word, no one will ever pay any
attention to what you are saying.

pix

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Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 15:15:31 +0930
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

1. OP suggests adding social media buttons to hackerpspace blog.
...
n. Fee suggests "could always have a page instead of a group, so ppl can
see w/o logging in. or share feed to blog...
options=endless ;)"

I assumed that meant having a Facebook page which can be seen on the
Facebook website without logging in to Facebook.

Sorry,did I think wrong?  She meant the hackerspace site should be publicly
visible without having to log in?
Is that right?
-I thought the hackerspace site *was* publicly visible without logging in?

Ken.

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Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 15:19:15 +0930
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

OK, my knee-jerk rants stop now.

Ken.

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Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 15:19:39 +0930
Local: Mon, Jul 9 2012 1:49 am
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

Fee means converting the current Hackerspace Adelaide "facebook group" in
to a "facebook page". On facebook, for reasons which escape me, "groups"
and "pages" have arbitrarily different sets of features. Such as "pages"
being viewable without being logged in to facebook.

I might add, the facebook group only exists because someone else made it
long before we started actually meeting as a group, and i took it over from
them.

pix

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Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 16:08:59 +0930
Local: Mon, Jul 9 2012 2:38 am
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Re: Blog

oh dear, I've compounded things..

I didn't mean instead, I meant aswell.

facebook only gets access to your address book if you choose to sync your
mobile contacts to your fb contacts (as does linked in, etc). it can be a
useful feature but it's not mandatory.

hth, f.

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