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Tamsyn Michael  
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From: Tamsyn Michael <tamsyn.j.mich...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:51:56 +1030
Local: Sun, Nov 11 2012 9:21 pm
Subject: Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

I've got all the ingredients bar this one.  Apparently used in cake baking?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gum_arabic#section_1

Any tips on where to get it?


 
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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:00:43 +1030
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Tamsyn Michael

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> I've got all the ingredients bar this one.  Apparently used in cake baking?
> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gum_arabic#section_1

> Any tips on where to get it?

how about premier art supplies on; 43 Gilles Street, Adelaide, South
Australia 5000
comes in bottles of varying sizes;
  http://premierartorders.com.au/index.php?route=product/product&filter...

or Ekersleys on Frome Street.
  http://www.eckersleys.com.au/products/winsor-newton-water-colour-gum-...

cheers,

Kim
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Tamsyn Michael  
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From: Tamsyn Michael <tamsyn.j.mich...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:27:17 +1030
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

Thanks Kim, but art-grade is the wrong gum Arabic.  Food grade is
non-toxic.  :)
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Andrew Helgeson  
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From: Andrew Helgeson <cyberte...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:41:57 +1030
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

I was gunna say!
Must be a different kind of thickener, the gum arabic I've used for binder
is dissolved in alcohol.

Andrew

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From: Steve Roehrs <steve.roe...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:49:24 +1030
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

Now that'd make for some great cola!

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From: Kim Hawtin <kimhaw...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:08:48 +1030
Local: Sun, Nov 11 2012 10:38 pm
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Tamsyn Michael

<tamsyn.j.mich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Kim, but art-grade is the wrong gum Arabic.  Food grade is non-toxic.

Seems to be something stocked by baking/cake suppliers;
 http://bakingpleasures.com.au/p278/gum-arabic
 http://www.mfcd.net/store/product.asp?pID=646&c=122020

Can't locate one locally though...

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Andrew Helgeson  
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From: Andrew Helgeson <cyberte...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:37:08 +1030
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

Yep!
Bit more "kick"!

We need to put the coca back in cola!

Andrew


 
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Tamsyn Michael  
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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:38:05 +1030
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 1:08 am
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

Hehe - thanks all.  I found the gum arabic (and the caramel colour) at
Caroline's Cake Supplies in Oaklands Park.  The dude even through in the
citric acid (100%).  Thanks for the cake supplies tip Kim.

Now all I have to do is source the caffeine :/ - I figured that'd be a trip
to the chemist, but I'm not sure how many mg of caffeine are in 1 mL, and
no doz is expensive.


 
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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:50:52 +1030
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 1:20 am
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me
http://www.bulknutrients.com.au/buy/caffeine-powder/CP

$20 for 20g or $69 for 100g.

There are cheaper suppliers from the US (smartpowders - 400g for $13) but I presume you don't want to wait for shipping.

Also, be very very careful with this stuff - buy a scale accurate to at least 10mg, and measure twice. Also don't divide up the 20g package assuming that they've actually given you 20g - sellers can sometimes be 'generous'.  Store it out of sight too, lest someone unaware decides to take a spoonful of it...

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Andrew Helgeson  
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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:03:27 +1030
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 1:33 am
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

20g in a litre!!!!
Are you going to substitute phosphoric acid with citric?

won't be the same....

:-)

Andrew

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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:09:12 +1030
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 2:39 am
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

Thanks - I may try that for next time.  But I did the math, and no-doz is
actually not to bad / mg of caffeine.  Much cheaper than Coke.  :)  I
should probably switch all together.  Have half a tablet and a bottle of
water instead...

After I try this.  Wish me luck, I'll be mixing it up while dinner's
cooking.  If anyone wants to try it (and I don't fail miserably) I'll bring
the syrup and a bottle or two of carbonated mineral water to Hackerspace.


 
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Steven Pickles  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 3:28 am
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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:58:36 +1030
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

Are you doing the full hammer-drill-powered-whisk? This is one of the
crucial things that the Cube Cinema folk discovered when trying to execute
the open cola recipe (check out Cube Cola). You need high sheer strength to
get the gum arabic to form an emulsion, hence the Tim-The-Toolman style
mixer.

http://www.cube-cola.org/

pix

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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:09:07 +1030
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

... or you can use 30mL of water in the oil mix instead of 3 :).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola_%28drink%29

Yeah - saw the cube cola recipe.  I'm hoping my blender will do the job
though.  Damn the oil mixture smells good.  I'm seriously thinking of
making an 'eu de coke' perfume.

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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

Are you going to carbonate it with something like this:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/c908/


 
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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:41:20 +1030
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 5:11 am
Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

Hehe Damien - awesome.  I haven't seen that before.  Nice use of science.
I'm using carbonated water from the supermarket though.

And it tastes nooooothing like coke.  Too sweet (I didn't think it was
possible) and orangy.  And it's red.  I think I'm enjoying it, even if it
is like swigging perfume, doubt I'd make it again except to wear on a
date.  I tried a little of the emulsion in water.  It was much better
without the sugar (though I'd probably miss the caffeine).

I'm looking forward to others' opinions on this one.

Oh, and after all that worry the caffeine was super easy to work out - Coke
is 100mg / litre so I crushed 25 tablets - they dissolved fine in the hot
liquid.

*Cost*

Oils - $9.00
Caffeine - $5.00
Colour - $3.35
Thickener - $1.80
Total - *$19.15*

80c a litre - the same as generic cola.

I wish it wasn't so sweet - I am thinking of adding a little more acid -
I'll see what you guys think first though.  :)


 
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From: Tamsyn Michael <tamsyn.j.mich...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:51:32 +1030
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

Oh, damn.  I tried just adding some more acid to the glass and now I know
what it reminds me of...  Berocca.  Anyone want a caffeinated berocca mix
with none of those pesky vitamins?


 
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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:52:18 +1030
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

The too sweet is no phosphoric acid, why pepsi is the devils cola!

:-)

Andrew

On 12/11/2012 8:41 PM, "Tamsyn Michael" <tamsyn.j.mich...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hehe Damien - awesome.  I haven't seen that before.  Nice use of science.
I'm using carbonated water from the supermarket though.

And it tastes nooooothing like coke.  Too sweet (I didn't think it was
possible) and orangy.  And it's red.  I think I'm enjoying it, even if it
is like swigging perfume, doubt I'd make it again except to wear on a
date.  I tried a little of the emulsion in water.  It was much better
without the sugar (though I'd probably miss the caffeine).

I'm looking forward to others' opinions on this one.

Oh, and after all that worry the caffeine was super easy to work out - Coke
is 100mg / litre so I crushed 25 tablets - they dissolved fine in the hot
liquid.

*Cost*

Oils - $9.00
Caffeine - $5.00
Colour - $3.35
Thickener - $1.80
Total - *$19.15*

80c a litre - the same as generic cola.

I wish it wasn't so sweet - I am thinking of adding a little more acid -
I'll see what you guys think first though.  :)

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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:15:51 +1030
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

I saw Cube Cola give a presentation (quite) a few years back. Their result
was in the ballpark of Coke, and it certainly wasn't red. They did a blind
taste test with a bunch of cola-clones to see if your taste preference
aligned with preference of the cultural views of each cola (eg, Mecca cola
and Turka cola). Spoiler alert, it didn't ;) Coke has a much rounder
flavour than most of the clones.

pix

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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:36:46 +1030
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Steven Pickles <thatpix...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I saw Cube Cola give a presentation (quite) a few years back. Their result
> was in the ballpark of Coke, and it certainly wasn't red. They did a blind
> taste test with a bunch of cola-clones to see if your taste preference
> aligned with preference of the cultural views of each cola (eg, Mecca cola
> and Turka cola). Spoiler alert, it didn't ;) Coke has a much rounder
> flavour than most of the clones.

> pix

> Coke is the only cola that doesn't taste sickly sweet - I'm guessing it's

the acidity.  Also coke is way more carbonated than other colas (which
would add to the acidity even further).  I kind of wish I had left out some
of the sugar.  Did the cube cola taste sweeter than coke?

:( - I done fucked up - I don't think even super carbonated water can save
this.  :)


 
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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:26:53 +1030
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me

Wonder where you would get phosphoric acid?
Or what percentage

Andrew

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On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Steven Pickles <thatpix...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I saw Cube Cola g...

Coke is the only cola that doesn't taste sickly sweet - I'm guessing it's
the acidity.  Also coke is way more carbonated than other colas (which
would add to the acidity even further).  I kind of wish I had left out some
of the sugar.  Did the cube cola taste sweeter than coke?

:( - I done fucked up - I don't think even super carbonated water can save
this.  :)

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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:45:34 +1030
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Subject: Re: [HACK-ADL] Gum Arabic - last ingredient for open cola eludes me
Last time I saw it for sale, it was being used as a rust treatment.
Most emphatically not food grade.

J.


 
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