Fwd: [Linux-aus] We're now about 4 months away from Software Freedom Day

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kira...@gmail.com

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May 2, 2013, 6:15:38 PM5/2/13
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I would like us to hold a Software Freedom Day event.  Is anyone else interested?

Kylie

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Subject: [Linux-aus] We're now about 4 months away from Software Freedom Day
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Hi everyone,

Just a courtesy note to advise that we're now a little over 4 months
away from Software Freedom Day. If you're considering getting a team
together, now is a good time to start thinking about it and planning.
Registrations on the Software Freedom Day website [1] are not yet open,
but please consider subscribing to the mailing list for announcements [2].

[1] http://www.softwarefreedomday.org
[2] http://mail.sf-day.org/lists/listinfo

If your team needs some funding to help pull together an event, please
be aware of the Linux Australia Grants program [3].

[3] http://linux.org.au/projects/grants

Kind regards,
Kathy


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sighmon

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May 3, 2013, 12:54:47 AM5/3/13
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What would be involved?
Linux install fest?
Code creation?
Publishing of personal code projects on the day?
Food? Films?

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kira...@gmail.com

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May 3, 2013, 1:03:05 AM5/3/13
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Basically any ideas that people come up with which promote Free Open Source Software.  I think Installfests have passed their usefulness.

How about a mini unconference.  People can talk about projects, ideas, publishing of personal projects, some open hardware talks or demos and food :-)

Kylie



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Jamie Mackenzie

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May 3, 2013, 1:12:19 AM5/3/13
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I'm a complete Linux beginner but keen to get more into it so I'd be interested in anything that's aimed at newbies.

kira...@gmail.com

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May 3, 2013, 1:43:33 AM5/3/13
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It would definitely include stuff for newbies Jamie as it's meant as an outreach to the community to get more people into using all things Free and Open Source.

Kim Hawtin

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May 3, 2013, 5:23:17 AM5/3/13
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do we have a date?

thoughts on a location / venue?

PLI?

cheers,

Kim

kira...@gmail.com

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May 3, 2013, 5:31:12 AM5/3/13
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The date will be the official SFD in September, Hackerspace would be the venue and if it is an official Hackerspace event then it will be covered under our insurance  :-)

Fee Plumley

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May 3, 2013, 5:55:01 AM5/3/13
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fwiw i've got some funding between Aug - Dec. it roughly involves parking the bus in city centre & hosting pop up happenings of different types, catalysts for digital/physical gatherings. I'd love hackerspace to be one of those. it could possibly give an extra play space for ideas & members (new & old). was planning to use aug to plan for later months but it could well be around this (my other projects in next couple months include openstreetmap).

a 'Linux install fest' would work well for that context - e.g. bring your (older??) laptop to the bus & get help installing Linux on it. what happens beyond that depends on you/people you meet there/new membership potential/etc. could easily become a series of events to get people through a few stages of glorious infection. and yes I this excites me specifically because I'd love to find a way to resurrect my old Sony vaio pcg-u3 with the most suitable Linux build (so far I've not found anything that doesn't slug).

I can put a little bit of cash behind that (or something like it) too.

just throwing a hand in the air for a yes, either for this (I'm away for some of sept, tho) or something else to contribute my time/hype/cash to promo &/or play with something HA-related.
 


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kira...@gmail.com

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May 3, 2013, 6:09:05 AM5/3/13
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Some great ideas Fee, I wonder if we could get permission to park the bus at 80 King William st, have something happening in the bus and have someone at a 'reception' desk in the foyer sending people up to Level 9 where we have some other activities happening.

Fee Plumley

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May 3, 2013, 6:35:10 AM5/3/13
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it's becoming an interesting smorgasbord of me needing to get licences per location per need. so while yes your suggestion makes absolute sense on the one hand it's also possibly a hell-hole depending on context of activity, what night, where when...
but I'm a dogged bugger, so if we devise the thing we want I'll work on the way it can happen.
(tho parking the bus outside on King William strikes me as a big ask - it's an actual, bus stop! - maybe round the corner?!)

unless ... we devise a hack city perambulation... start at one place to build one thing, move to the next place to build something else, etc etc ... e.g camp hack in the park leading to bike hack leading to dotdotdot then HA space? nomadic life is a key focus of the grant project.

getting people to think of being part of the broader extended community would be cool too, methinks. maybe some of the budget I have could be used to bring those existing members from regional/remote IN to city (I'd love to take us out of city but this grant is city border focused).

yay for schemes!

kira...@gmail.com

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May 3, 2013, 6:39:36 AM5/3/13
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Yeah not right at the bus stop :-)  Going by previous Software Freedom Days I was thinking of something during the day but it doesn't have to be.

Would be fantastic to bring people from country to a city event.  I've lived in the country all my life up until the last four years so I remember what it's like not being able to participate in many events.


Fee Plumley

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May 3, 2013, 6:58:17 AM5/3/13
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oh they can be days as well as nights, it's all open :)

rbrt is all about the bus being an excuse to bring 'this thing' to 'this thing'. they can be anything (or anyone) but ideally there is some creative digital component in context/process or outcome (tho I'm open to convo).

I don't know the format of the SFD official days, I'm more brain dumping on what this or anything could be, sorry! totally happy to run to form if any of this fits the right dates/times/licences for my thing. also happy for any of these thoughts to become something else that has nothing to do w/ rbrt & help where I can whenever I'm in town.

kira...@gmail.com

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Jun 20, 2013, 10:17:40 PM6/20/13
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Fee and anyone else, are you still interested in doing something for Software Freedom Day?  It's Saturday Sept 21st.


Steven Pickles

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Sep 9, 2013, 10:24:28 PM9/9/13
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Are there any plans for this brewing that I don't know about?

I'm happy just to do a more software focussed hack-session.. Maybe starting earlier if we needed to?

Can we register somewhere? We don't really need SFD swag (which we are surely to late for), just some exposure.

pix


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After some initial interest no one replied when I asked again so I gave up on the idea.

Kylie


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Robert Hart

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Sep 9, 2013, 11:22:54 PM9/9/13
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SFD 2013 on Saturday, September 21st.  http://softwarefreedomday.org/    It once got quite popular in Adelaide about 7 to 8 years ago, shame its declined in recent years, I liked the idea.

But at usual these things are driven by volunteers and so its needs a group to officially champion it, that has at least a few hard working well connected enthusiastic people to kick it off, promote and organise a venue. Otherwise they don't happen regardless of how good the cause or interest.  Other groups involved in previous SFD where - Linux SA, IT Share, Air-Stream and few others I can't remember amateur radio, music, video, robotics and gaming

But there is no reason why it can't be small and just be the theme of a Saturday hack session, to show support.

Robert

Steven Pickles

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Sep 10, 2013, 2:42:33 AM9/10/13
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I'd be happy to do this low-hanging-fruit hacksession-theme version. What are some of the good activities for a SFD? 

Where do you market something like that to get more than the usual-suspects?

pix


Fee Plumley

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Sep 10, 2013, 3:05:17 AM9/10/13
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I got swamped & now am in wrong hemisphere for the date. but still keen to do public linux/foss sessions as part of ongoing energy in this. let me know how it goes & we can look at what to do in dec x

kira...@gmail.com

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Sep 10, 2013, 3:21:59 AM9/10/13
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The universities are good places to advertise, computer shops, schools, TAFE, community groups and community centres, libraries.  Having it as a Hacksession is a good idea.  If anyone can bring along something cool they have done to show or talk about.  Having some usb sticks or cds with several Linux distros handy to give away is a good idea too.

Damien P

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Sep 10, 2013, 6:34:18 AM9/10/13
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On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:51:59 PM UTC+9:30, Kylie Willison wrote:
Having some usb sticks or cds with several Linux distros handy to give away is a good idea too.

I don't think that Linux is a good introduction to free software, since people will fire it up, realize they can't use their favourite applications, then toss the disk away.  On the other hand, we can get them started with free software like Gimp, Inkscape and LibreOffice which can run on their computers already and can probably do everything they need.  I only stopped using Windows full time once the only software I was using was free software.

Steven Pickles

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Sep 10, 2013, 6:39:32 AM9/10/13
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Good point.


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Damien P

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Sep 10, 2013, 6:39:58 AM9/10/13
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On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:54:28 AM UTC+9:30, pix wrote:
I'm happy just to do a more software focussed hack-session..

It probably doesn't even need to be software focussed - we can show cool stuff running with free software.  The Lantern and the Huxley runs entirely on free software   Most engineering students probably don't realize you can program (some) microcontrollers without the vendor's proprietary and expensive software.  And if all else fails you can always play OpenArena or Armagetron...

kira...@gmail.com

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It all depends on who comes along  :-)  We can gauge who will utilise a distro and who to give Gimp etc to.


On 10 September 2013 20:04, Damien P <ath...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Robyn Willison

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There used to be a disk called the OpenCD which had a heap of Open
windows software on it.

Robyn

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> It all depends on who comes along :-) We can gauge who will utilise a
> distro and who to give Gimp etc to.
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> On 10 September 2013 20:04, Damien P <ath...@gmail.com

Janet Reid

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we might have one but it would be a bit out of date.
perhaps we could make a new one


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Tamsyn Michael

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Sep 10, 2013, 10:49:35 PM9/10/13
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I'll get started tonight.

Gimp,
Inkscape
Open Office
Calibre
Thunderbird
Firefox / Chromium? ??? Which

Games? What ones? Could we get a LAN game going? Westeroth? But maybe the cool kids are doing something else these days

Janet Reid <lucy...@gmail.com> wrote:

>we might have one but it would be a bit out of date.
>perhaps we could make a new one
>
>
>On 11 September 2013 03:49, Robyn Willison <ro...@robynspcs.com> wrote:
>
>> There used to be a disk called the OpenCD which had a heap of Open windows
>> software on it.
>>
>> Robyn
>>
>>
>> On 10/09/2013 8:13 PM, kira...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> It all depends on who comes along :-) We can gauge who will utilise a
>>> distro and who to give Gimp etc to.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10 September 2013 20:04, Damien P <ath...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:ath...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:51:59 PM UTC+9:30, Kylie Willison
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Having some usb sticks or cds with several Linux distros handy
>>> to give away is a good idea too.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think that Linux is a good introduction to free software,
>>> since people will fire it up, realize they can't use their favourite
>>> applications, then toss the disk away. On the other hand, we can
>>> get them started with free software like Gimp, Inkscape and
>>> LibreOffice which can run on their computers already and can
>>> probably do everything they need. I only stopped using Windows full
>>> time once the only software I was using was free software.
>>>
>>>
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Robert Hart

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Suggest also

http://tuxpaint.org/ always a hit with the kiddies
http://handbrake.fr/

Ken

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Libre Office, not Open Office.

Kim Hawtin

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if the opencd is not around any more search for opendisk or opendisc

should have .isos available...

kim

Tamsyn Michael

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Sep 10, 2013, 11:12:02 PM9/10/13
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Awesome! I've also grabbed 7zip. I always had that on my windows box.

Robert Hart <rob...@hardhack.org.au> wrote:

>Suggest also
>
>http://tuxpaint.org/ always a hit with the kiddies
>http://handbrake.fr/
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Tamsyn Michael

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Pidgin...

Ken

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wamp?  (OK, I'm biassed toward PHP.)  It is a _very_ simple way of getting Apache, MySql, PHP.

Tamsyn Michael

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Oops, yes, that's what I meant Kim.  I've got LibreOffice, and VLC and Blender.  I'll keep that in mind for my own use Ken, thanks, but would your average Windows User use it?

Tamsyn Michael

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=) - good one Kim:
http://www.theopendisc.com/

Thomas Sprinkmeier

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On 11/09/13 12:19, Tamsyn Michael wrote:
> I'll get started tonight.
>
> Gimp,
> Inkscape
> Open Office
> Calibre
> Thunderbird
> Firefox / Chromium? ??? Which

I re-mastered a Live CD to include the windows installers for a bunch of
stuff:

http://ogpc.com.au/wiki/Ubuntu_Customization_Kit

best of both worlds: boot the live DVD or insert it in a running Windows
box and install the windows versions.


as a Geek Dad I'd also add:

gcompris
scratch
arduino SDK
PuTTY, WinSCP
Guido van Robot
celestia
stellarium
emacs


Kim Hawtin

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Sep 12, 2013, 11:41:32 PM9/12/13
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Evenen all,

Folks on the LA list have been wondering who is participating in SFD this year.

They'd like folks to up the details of the events here;
Folks in Melbourne have some interesting things going on;
  http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2013/Australia/Victoria/Melbourne/SFD

Including sugar on a stick, which is new to me =)

regards,

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Steven Pickles

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Sep 13, 2013, 1:46:00 AM9/13/13
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I'd really like to hear more people describe what a Hackerspace SFD would look like. Then I'll do all I can to make it happen.

Knowing that I'm helping further the vision of the community is a great motivator for me. When there is little expressed enthusiasm, that is similarly demotivating.

pix

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Robert Hart

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Sep 13, 2013, 2:16:16 AM9/13/13
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So much we do today is thanks to open source software, not only the internet but also servers, automation, modeling, 3d printer software and firmware, and everything etc. etc.

Essentially SFD is just party! with a foss theme celebrating software freedom.

So what does it look like?

Imagine a group of people with laptops sitting around in penguin t-shirts eating cake.  No no no

Music!, Light shows, Automated thingys , cupcakes and micro brewed beer with a free software theme, then invite every geek in town to come free..

Offer free gifts - FOSS on a disk or download their own from the keg server and then dance, talk and play with other people with a common interests.

Robert    

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I've been involved in mainly education based Software Freedom Days eg. educating the general public about FOSS which were slightly formal.  I like Robert's description better.  Is there anything else you want to know Pix?  :-)

Kylie :-)

Steven Pickles

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Organising something like what Robert suggested sounds a little daunting. From reading the SFD site, they are pretty vague on the specifics of the day too. We got one enquiry by email and I even asked them what they would like to see. It might be a little phoned-in but I guess a normal hack session, maybe with hopefully a few more people turning up *squints* with a free-software theme. Unless someone feels like organising the shindig Rob describes.

I often have the problem of not paying enough lip-service to free software, because it's my default choice and I use it for most everything. I don't really think about it very much.

pix 

Robert Hart

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If I had weekends free I'd come and help as I like the idea, maybe next year. But as you have the AGM next week its mostly likely best you have just to have a hackespace SFD theme and put our an invite to the community generally, I'm sure their are people around Adelaide looking to do something and just need a focal point.

Robert

kira...@gmail.com

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That's a good point Robert.

Tamsyn I'd love to hear your talk.  Does anyone else have something they can talk about?  If we have some visitors I'll talk about linux.conf.au and my Connect Project.

Kylie

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