>> Better just to say - I'm not interested in forums with questions from
>> new Habari users but will read -dev.

> This sentiment needs to be quashed before it gets started.

> There are plenty of developers subscribed to the -users mailing list who frequently reply to new users that have questions.  To suggest that developers here are uninterested in helping new users is not only untrue, it makes me angry.

> The suggestion to retire the forums is one focused on improving developer response to user support and decreasing project maintenance costs.

> The forums were an experiment.  This is how successful communities work:  You give them the resources they need to grow, and you trim the resources that don't work or aren't used.

> If anyone could provide a valid reason to keep the stale, abandoned forum in addition to the active, useful Google Group, maybe there would be an excuse to keep both.  But I have heard none.

> The forum is currently a blight on Habari's reputation, and a drain of resources for both maintenance and message threads like these.

> This is a call to a formal vote to shut down the forum.  +3 sum votes carries.  A +1 vote is to retire the forums.  A -1 vote is to keep the forums.  Votes will be tallied at 12:00 GMT on 11/13, and resultant action taken pursuant to the result of the vote.  Even if you've expressed your opinion before, please re-vote +1/-1 on this thread to be counted.

> My vote is +1, retire the forums.  Redirect the forum page to the Google Groups page for the mailing list.

> Owen

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