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Subject: Re: Writing down what we want
From: steve dunkley <steve.dunk...@gmail.com>
To: h2g2communityconsortium@googlegroups.com
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I think for the EG we should have something that allows users to attach
images when submitting it for peer review, and the sub-ed can check that
it's okay. And if it is, add it to the h2g2 image library
Pastey
On 2 February 2011 15:38, Tavaron <tavaro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The problem is that we have to make sure that nobody just takes
> pictures from google, I think. There could be copyright issues. I am
> very very much for getting more pictures into the EG, don't get me
> wrong.
>
> On Feb 2, 4:33 pm, steve dunkley <steve.dunk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think "there shall be a method for users to have images in the edited
> > guide"
> >
> > or something like that, then even if it's a case of them emailing it to
> the
> > admins
> >
> > On 2 February 2011 15:31, h2g2 Community Consortium <
> >
> >
> >
> > h2g2communityconsort...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > What about - we will investigate the possiblty of uploading images to
> the
> > > guide?
> >
> > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:30 PM, MartinBzm <m.beze...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> Ummm... would we want to allow for external links to pics/videos ?
> > >> Displaying a thumbnail in the guide ?
> >
> > >> Cheers!
> > >> Martin
> > >> ---
> > >> Free?! Does that mean I can't get a Discount?
> >
> > >> On 2 feb, 16:21, steve dunkley <steve.dunk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > ditto with videos
> >
> > >> > On 2 February 2011 15:20, steve dunkley <steve.dunk...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > >> > > not too sure about 2.1.7, the problem with allowing users to
> include
> > >> images
> > >> > > from an upload is that there's no control over it really. sort of.
> > >> > > it could open up a whole can of copyright/legal worms. Plus it'd
> kill
> > >> a lot
> > >> > > of bandwidth with users uploading stupidly large files that would
> then
> > >> kill
> > >> > > the processors resizing them down.
> > >> > > I agree there should be a method to get user images into the
> guide,
> > >> but I
> > >> > > think a better solution would be to have a proper Guide Image
> Library.
> > >> Have
> > >> > > it on a separate server, allow users to upload images there. And
> then
> > >> have
> > >> > > them go through an approval process (a quick tick box by an admin
> > >> should do)
> > >> > > at which point the images get moved over to the main image servers
> and
> > >> > > become available.
> >
> > >> > > So, I suppose yes the wording is sort of right, but I think I'd be
> > >> tempted
> > >> > > to change it to "It should be possible for users to submit images
> for
> > >> > > inclusion in the h2g2 image library" or something.
> >
> > >> > > We'd also need to keep an eye on the amount of diskspace it all
> uses.
> > >> do we
> > >> > > restrict that to "for illustrating guide entries" so that it's not
> > >> just a
> > >> > > load of photos of their dog.
> >
> > >> > > Pastey
> >
> > >> > > On 2 February 2011 15:14, steve dunkley <steve.dunk...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > >> > >> I agree that the front page should link to non-factual entries. I
> > >> think
> > >> > >> this could be a very good draw/selling point for the guide.
> >
> > >> > >> Pastey
> >
> > >> > >> On 2 February 2011 15:10, MartinBzm <m.beze...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >> > >>> Hi Maria,
> > >> > >>> Good job!
> > >> > >>> I'd like to propose a similar document to facilitate the
> > >> organisation
> > >> > >>> of the "The Great Migration", to record all the 'under the
> water'
> > >> > >>> stuff needed to migrate, host and maintain the site.
> > >> > >>> I can help fill it, and I believe there are more techies here
> that
> > >> > >>> could lend a hand or paw.
> >
> > >> > >>> I think I just heard a dolphin whistle...
> >
> > >> > >>> Cheers!
> > >> > >>> Martin
> > >> > >>> ---
> > >> > >>> Free?! Does that mean I can't get a Discount?
> >
> > >> > >>> On 29 jan, 23:28, "Maria - Milla (Alchemilla Digitalis)"
> > >> > >>> <maria.beng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ngidRXXYP_eUs9nHKTl8jL699h8ukhyEE.
> > >> > >>> ..
> >
> > >> > >>> > This is what I do in my day job. (And I scared Ben with it...
> > >> hehe)
> >
> > >> > >>> > I would like this document do record on a reasonably high
> level
> > >> what
> > >> > >>> > the system should do, from the point of view of users.
> >
> > >> > >>> > Another document should record how the community wants to use
> the
> > >> > >>> > system, I think. Like policies, procedures, processes and
> stuff.
> > >> This
> > >> > >>> > document isn't for those things.
> >
> > >> > >>> > Can I ask some people to join me?
> >
> > >> > >>> > I tried putting something on hootoo, but I am horrible at
> GuideML,
> > >> so
> > >> > >>> > I hope this google document helps instead.
> >
> > >> > >>> > Maria
>
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<div>I think for the EG we should have something that allows users to attac=
h images when submitting it for peer review, and the sub-ed can check that =
it's okay. And if it is, add it to the h2g2 image library<br></div><div=
>
<br></div><div>Pastey</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2 February 201=
1 15:38, Tavaron <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:tavaron42@hotmail.=
com">tavaro...@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex;">
The problem is that we have to make sure that nobody just takes<br>
pictures from google, I think. There could be copyright issues. I am<br>
very very much for getting more pictures into the EG, don't get me<br>
wrong.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
On Feb 2, 4:33=A0pm, steve dunkley <<a href=3D"mailto:steve.dunk...@gmai=
l.com">steve.dunk...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I think "there shall be a method for users to have images in the =
edited<br>
> guide"<br>
><br>
> or something like that, then even if it's a case of them emailing =
it to the<br>
> admins<br>
><br>
> On 2 February 2011 15:31, h2g2 Community Consortium <<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
</div><div class=3D"im">> <a href=3D"mailto:h2g2communityconsort...@gmai=
l.com">h2g2communityconsort...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > What about - we will investigate the possiblty of uploading image=
s to the<br>
> > guide?<br>
><br>
</div><div><div class=3D"h5">> > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Mart=
inBzm <<a href=3D"mailto:m.beze...@gmail.com">m.beze...@gmail.com</a>>=
; wrote:<br>
><br>
> >> Ummm... would we want to allow for external links to pics/vid=
eos ?<br>
> >> Displaying a thumbnail in the guide ?<br>
><br>
> >> Cheers!<br>
> >> Martin<br>
> >> ---<br>
> >> Free?! Does that mean I can't get a Discount?<br>
><br>
> >> On 2 feb, 16:21, steve dunkley <<a href=3D"mailto:steve.du=
nk...@gmail.com">steve.dunk...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> > ditto with videos<br>
><br>
> >> > On 2 February 2011 15:20, steve dunkley <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:steve.dunk...@gmail.com">steve.dunk...@gmail.com</a>><br>
> >> wrote:<br>
><br>
> >> > > not too sure about 2.1.7, the problem with allowing=
users to include<br>
> >> images<br>
> >> > > from an upload is that there's no control over =
it really. sort of.<br>
> >> > > it could open up a whole can of copyright/legal wor=
ms. Plus it'd kill<br>
> >> a lot<br>
> >> > > of bandwidth with users uploading stupidly large fi=
les that would then<br>
> >> kill<br>
> >> > > the processors resizing them down.<br>
> >> > > I agree there should be a method to get user images=
into the guide,<br>
> >> but I<br>
> >> > > think a better solution would be to have a proper G=
uide Image Library.<br>
> >> Have<br>
> >> > > it on a separate server, allow users to upload imag=
es there. And then<br>
> >> have<br>
> >> > > them go through an approval process (a quick tick b=
ox by an admin<br>
> >> should do)<br>
> >> > > at which point the images get moved over to the mai=
n image servers and<br>
> >> > > become available.<br>
><br>
> >> > > So, I suppose yes the wording is sort of right, but=
I think I'd be<br>
> >> tempted<br>
> >> > > to change it to "It should be possible for use=
rs to submit images for<br>
> >> > > inclusion in the h2g2 image library" or someth=
ing.<br>
><br>
> >> > > We'd also need to keep an eye on the amount of =
diskspace it all uses.<br>
> >> do we<br>
> >> > > restrict that to "for illustrating guide entri=
es" so that it's not<br>
> >> just a<br>
> >> > > load of photos of their dog.<br>
><br>
> >> > > Pastey<br>
><br>
> >> > > On 2 February 2011 15:14, steve dunkley <<a href=
=3D"mailto:steve.dunk...@gmail.com">steve.dunk...@gmail.com</a>><br>
> >> wrote:<br>
><br>
> >> > >> I agree that the front page should link to non-=
factual entries. I<br>
> >> think<br>
> >> > >> this could be a very good draw/selling point fo=
r the guide.<br>
><br>
> >> > >> Pastey<br>
><br>
> >> =A0> >> On 2 February 2011 15:10, MartinBzm <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:m.beze...@gmail.com">m.beze...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> >> > >>> Hi Maria,<br>
> >> > >>> Good job!<br>
> >> > >>> I'd like to propose a similar document =
to facilitate the<br>
> >> organisation<br>
> >> > >>> of the "The Great Migration", to =
record all the 'under the water'<br>
> >> > >>> stuff needed to migrate, host and maintain =
the site.<br>
> >> > >>> I can help fill it, and I believe there are=
more techies here that<br>
> >> > >>> could lend a hand or paw.<br>
><br>
> >> > >>> I think I just heard a dolphin whistle...<b=
r>
><br>
> >> > >>> Cheers!<br>
> >> > >>> Martin<br>
> >> > >>> ---<br>
> >> > >>> Free?! Does that mean I can't get a Dis=
count?<br>
><br>
> >> > >>> On 29 jan, 23:28, "Maria - Milla (Alch=
emilla Digitalis)"<br>
> >> > >>> <<a href=3D"mailto:maria.beng...@gmail.c=
om">maria.beng...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> >><a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ngidRXXYP_eUs9n=
HKTl8jL699h8ukhyEE" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n=
gidRXXYP_eUs9nHKTl8jL699h8ukhyEE</a>.<br>
> >> > >>> ..<br>
><br>
> >> > >>> > This is what I do in my day job. (And =
I scared Ben with it...<br>
> >> hehe)<br>
><br>
> >> > >>> > I would like this document do record o=
n a reasonably high level<br>
> >> what<br>
> >> > >>> > the system should do, from the point o=
f view of users.<br>
><br>
> >> > >>> > Another document should record how the=
community wants to use the<br>
> >> > >>> > system, I think. Like policies, proced=
ures, processes and stuff.<br>
> >> This<br>
> >> > >>> > document isn't for those things.<b=
r>
><br>
> >> > >>> > Can I ask some people to join me?<br>
><br>
> >> > >>> > I tried putting something on hootoo, b=
ut I am horrible at GuideML,<br>
> >> so<br>
> >> > >>> > I hope this google document helps inst=
ead.<br>
><br>
> >> > >>> > Maria</div></div></blockquote></div><b=
r>
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