A poll: Shorter time trial ride?
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KoF
May 1, 2012, 11:02:10 PM5/1/12
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I've been talking to Joe about coming up some new rides. We did one
last weekend...the Dizzy 52mile ride. Kinda like Dan's turney ride,
but it stayed pretty close to Walker Park where we started. I kept
thinking we were almost done because we were close to the cars. It
wasn't like doing an out & back where you turn back to the cars at 26
miles and have to ride back towards Walker Park for 26 miles in a
headwind. Different.
The two other rides will be towards the Alcovy train trestle and the
other towards Madison with Mickey's input. These will be 50-75 miles
rides which will be good for the up coming century ride.
The thing is we do the same rides over the same roads and you can't
really change the roads. Well Hwy 316 did.
Off topic, but speaking of change. I'd like to have a GTC posting
place for us to post our favorite quick nutritious meal recipes.
(I've been thinking about this idea for a while.) At the house here
we eat about the same meals all the time. Not that they are bad
meals, but they are the same meals. I'd like to have a place to post
some of our quick meal recipes and to have you post some of yours for
me/us to try. Just a thought......
Ok Back to subject. I'd like doing the Good Hope time trial....22
miles I think. But I'd like to do a shorter and hopefully faster time
trial by using the same course and doing it at a much faster speed.
Maybe cut the course turning at Adcock Road making it a 17.5km route
(11.0 miles) or by doing the Rex thing and going past Harmony Church
Road and turning right on Pleasant Valley Road back to Good Hope
making it a 20km (12.6 mile) route. Avoiding the hills on the south
end towards Fairplay would be nice too. Not that there is anything
wrong with the longer TT route or that I want to replace the longer
TT route. I just remember doing 440 yard and 880 yard races which
helped make my mile races faster because of those previous faster pace
races. And because I'm wanting to do something new.
Please post your thoughts and if you'd come out if we'd have a shorter
time trial ride scheduled. Maybe do a few shorties and a few longer
over this year. We'd still start at Walker Park and do the same warm-
up.
And speak up. In years past, our forum had
some ...ehh...........intense discussions going on. Looking back, I
sorta miss reading those too.
last weekend...the Dizzy 52mile ride. Kinda like Dan's turney ride,
but it stayed pretty close to Walker Park where we started. I kept
thinking we were almost done because we were close to the cars. It
wasn't like doing an out & back where you turn back to the cars at 26
miles and have to ride back towards Walker Park for 26 miles in a
headwind. Different.
The two other rides will be towards the Alcovy train trestle and the
other towards Madison with Mickey's input. These will be 50-75 miles
rides which will be good for the up coming century ride.
The thing is we do the same rides over the same roads and you can't
really change the roads. Well Hwy 316 did.
Off topic, but speaking of change. I'd like to have a GTC posting
place for us to post our favorite quick nutritious meal recipes.
(I've been thinking about this idea for a while.) At the house here
we eat about the same meals all the time. Not that they are bad
meals, but they are the same meals. I'd like to have a place to post
some of our quick meal recipes and to have you post some of yours for
me/us to try. Just a thought......
Ok Back to subject. I'd like doing the Good Hope time trial....22
miles I think. But I'd like to do a shorter and hopefully faster time
trial by using the same course and doing it at a much faster speed.
Maybe cut the course turning at Adcock Road making it a 17.5km route
(11.0 miles) or by doing the Rex thing and going past Harmony Church
Road and turning right on Pleasant Valley Road back to Good Hope
making it a 20km (12.6 mile) route. Avoiding the hills on the south
end towards Fairplay would be nice too. Not that there is anything
wrong with the longer TT route or that I want to replace the longer
TT route. I just remember doing 440 yard and 880 yard races which
helped make my mile races faster because of those previous faster pace
races. And because I'm wanting to do something new.
Please post your thoughts and if you'd come out if we'd have a shorter
time trial ride scheduled. Maybe do a few shorties and a few longer
over this year. We'd still start at Walker Park and do the same warm-
up.
And speak up. In years past, our forum had
some ...ehh...........intense discussions going on. Looking back, I
sorta miss reading those too.
ironmanrex
May 1, 2012, 11:54:41 PM5/1/12
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Great idea! I love any TT and having one down in Good Hope is my
favorite place. Here's an idea.
Why don't we have a short 10 or 12 mile TT and follow it up with a 2
or 3 man TT(no drop) for the 22 miler?
favorite place. Here's an idea.
Why don't we have a short 10 or 12 mile TT and follow it up with a 2
or 3 man TT(no drop) for the 22 miler?
StephenJ.
May 2, 2012, 12:43:39 AM5/2/12
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All good ideas. I'm up for TTs of any distance. How about one that has gravel and/or dirt roads!?
Mike Owens
May 2, 2012, 10:01:05 AM5/2/12
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There must be many other websites dedicated to nothiong but healthy
meals. Setting one up here doesn't make sense. Alternatively, just
starting a new thread entitled Recipes will do what you want. Anytime
someone posts a new recipe to it, it will automatically get bumped to
the top so anyone can see the post without having to search through
past messages.
Different rides - don't forget that we already have more different
routes than just about anyone else I have ever seen and that after 10+
years, folks still miss turns on these routes. Additionally, based
upon where our participants live (and have to drive to ride starts),
starting points farther out than Walker Park or anything else south of
78 seems just too far to go and I don't want to do it until more
growth and development necessitate it. It is that time of year (May)
for the ride to Alcovy Trestle but the first and last 10 miles are
terrible (relative to what we normally do) so it is not often on our
schedule.
I would be interested in a few rides to try out where someone figures
out their 10 favorite roads that we ever ride on (e.g., Braswell
Church/Preston, Macedonia Church, Finley, etc.) and see if a low
traffic 60-80 miles route can incorporate those roads. We could
perhaps try a new one each month this summer and maybe pick a favorite
or two to do more regularly. In designing a route, when connecting
the favorite roads one should be careful to not require using busy
roads. It is more important to have an overall low traffic and quite
route than to get all of your favorite roads in.
Shorter TT - I am against it. I am certain that more than 50% of the
active riders in GTC have a racing background and not just 1 or 2
races but a year or more and a category upgrade. At this point, they
show up on our weekend rides to go for a nice, long ride. If they
were still highly invested in racing, they would (mostly) be doing
racing specific training. We only have 50-55 good days a year to have
nice group rides and 3 TTs a year seems more than enough. None of
ours are even 40 km long but the two are different (flat in GH and
hilly at Harbins) and that seems like more than enough of an option.
Dedicating more days is too much in my opinion. Don't forget that you
can do a TT anytime you want and post the results to the nice Google
documents file that Bob Kuhn set up.
One alternative that doesn't require a dedicated day(s) to a short TT
is the use of Pannel from its beginning to the Fairplay store during
any of our group rides that go that route. Once the group gets there,
any rider wanting to TT just does it. I bring this up becuase Bob
Kuhn used to use this exact section as a nice 18-20 minute test of his
threshold power.
-Mike
meals. Setting one up here doesn't make sense. Alternatively, just
starting a new thread entitled Recipes will do what you want. Anytime
someone posts a new recipe to it, it will automatically get bumped to
the top so anyone can see the post without having to search through
past messages.
Different rides - don't forget that we already have more different
routes than just about anyone else I have ever seen and that after 10+
years, folks still miss turns on these routes. Additionally, based
upon where our participants live (and have to drive to ride starts),
starting points farther out than Walker Park or anything else south of
78 seems just too far to go and I don't want to do it until more
growth and development necessitate it. It is that time of year (May)
for the ride to Alcovy Trestle but the first and last 10 miles are
terrible (relative to what we normally do) so it is not often on our
schedule.
I would be interested in a few rides to try out where someone figures
out their 10 favorite roads that we ever ride on (e.g., Braswell
Church/Preston, Macedonia Church, Finley, etc.) and see if a low
traffic 60-80 miles route can incorporate those roads. We could
perhaps try a new one each month this summer and maybe pick a favorite
or two to do more regularly. In designing a route, when connecting
the favorite roads one should be careful to not require using busy
roads. It is more important to have an overall low traffic and quite
route than to get all of your favorite roads in.
Shorter TT - I am against it. I am certain that more than 50% of the
active riders in GTC have a racing background and not just 1 or 2
races but a year or more and a category upgrade. At this point, they
show up on our weekend rides to go for a nice, long ride. If they
were still highly invested in racing, they would (mostly) be doing
racing specific training. We only have 50-55 good days a year to have
nice group rides and 3 TTs a year seems more than enough. None of
ours are even 40 km long but the two are different (flat in GH and
hilly at Harbins) and that seems like more than enough of an option.
Dedicating more days is too much in my opinion. Don't forget that you
can do a TT anytime you want and post the results to the nice Google
documents file that Bob Kuhn set up.
One alternative that doesn't require a dedicated day(s) to a short TT
is the use of Pannel from its beginning to the Fairplay store during
any of our group rides that go that route. Once the group gets there,
any rider wanting to TT just does it. I bring this up becuase Bob
Kuhn used to use this exact section as a nice 18-20 minute test of his
threshold power.
-Mike
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